[00:01] <TJ-> elisa87: check what process has the port: "sudo ss -lpt sport = :http"
[00:01] <elisa87> Ben64:  I changed 80 to <VirtualHost *:443> and still get the same error
[00:01] <elisa87> ~$ sudo ss -lpt sport = :http
[00:01] <elisa87> State      Recv-Q Send-Q                                            Local Address:Port                                                Peer Address:Port
[00:01] <elisa87> LISTEN     0      128                                                          :::http                                                          :::*        users:(("docker-proxy",15779,4))
[00:01] <elisa87> Ben64: TJ-
[00:01] <TJ-> elisa87: there you go then, docker
[00:02] <elisa87> is it safe to kill -9 docker on EC2?
[00:02] <elisa87> I have not been using it
[00:03] <buggaboosanchez> I was here asking about this before and still need help. I made a mess of my direcotory icons a while back and it's really causing a problem. I've read the articles and there doesn't seem to be a complet and up-to-date answer that I've seen. I've posted on the forum and not gotten a soln.  I don't want to reinstall the system to fix it.  Is there anyone willing to field this quesiton and help me get back to the default direcotry icons on my system.
[00:03] <buggaboosanchez> ?
[00:03] <buggaboosanchez> ^ I run 16.04 LTS
[00:03] <bazhang> buggaboosanchez, made a mess of how
[00:03] <elisa87> so it still fails but without that error $ sudo service apache2 start
[00:03] <elisa87>  * Starting web server apache2                                                                                                                              Action 'start' failed.
[00:04] <elisa87> Ben64: TJ-
[00:04] <TJ-> elisa87: best to disable the docker service
[00:04] <Ben64> and use a paste service, paste the full command, output, and apache log maybe
[00:04] <elisa87> [Mon Sep 18 00:03:43.218199 2017] [ssl:emerg] [pid 30647] AH02312: Fatal error initialising mod_ssl, exiting. TJ- Ben64
[00:05] <TJ-> elisa87: you need to check the apache log file(s) under /var/log/ to find out what went wrong - probably you hav bad syntax in the apache config files
[00:05] <elisa87> that is what I did
[00:05] <elisa87> [Mon Sep 18 00:03:43.218159 2017] [ssl:emerg] [pid 30647] AH02240: Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0)  it is weird I get this error because I thought I setup the SSL in 000 file
[00:06] <TJ-> elisa87: sounds like the mod_ssl config is incorrect
[00:06] <Ben64> well there you go, you need a certificate
[00:06] <elisa87> I have a certificate
[00:06] <Ben64> it says you don't
[00:06] <TJ-> elisa87: but apparently apache doesn't see it
[00:07] <elisa87> I have set the path to my new certificate here sudo vi /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf Ben64 TJ-
[00:07] <buggaboosanchez> bazhang: A few mos ago I thought it was a good idea to customize my directory icons by goint into the properties of each and every direcotry ( one-by-one ) , clicking the little icon in properties to change the icon and then navigatiing to some uniqe, custom icon I had stored. Now there are several different directory icons in use throughout the system and it's hell trying to work with.
[00:07] <elisa87> this is what I have SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/4757dc1c480db857.crt
[00:07] <Ben64> you can keep saying you did it right but the error says you don't
[00:07] <elisa87> Got this from godaddy
[00:07] <TJ-> elisa87: you really need to talk to the apache/http channel they're the experts on this
[00:08] <elisa87> also have rgis SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/buhcomp_com.key
[00:08] <buggaboosanchez> bazhang: I know, I'm a retard, what can I say? I did it and it's done. I need a way out.
[00:09] <oerheks> buggaboosanchez, reinstall ?
[00:09] <oerheks> good lesson not no mess with icons
[00:09] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: those changes are stored in either 'hidden' .directory files in each directory, or under the user config at ~/.local/ or ~/.config/
[00:10] <elisa87> here is more information https://pastebin.com/PGpNBYEP Ben64 TJ-
[00:11] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: you could try finding them all:  "find $HOME -type f -name '.directory'
[00:11] <buggaboosanchez> oerheks: I really, really, really wish there were some other way. Innevitably, everyone I say this to will refuste to believe it, but the truth is I don't have nor can I afford a way to back up my personal data in order to do so ( and that probably isn't going to change any time soon ).  <---  I don't see how I can reinstall
[00:12] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: are the dirs in question only in your homedir?
[00:12] <Moe_A> Hello, I have been struggling to run 1080p movies h264 encoded on Ubuntu 16.04, the movie runs fine but the frames are kind of "blurry" whenever there is camera movement. I'm using VLC and I have GTX970 GPU and i5 4690k CPU any help would be apprecaited
[00:13] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Thanks.  If I had the actual default image available I would be willing to got back through each and evcery directory property and set it to the correct image ( like I did when I screwed evcerything up - but fixing it this time ).
[00:13] <buggaboosanchez> ^ Does anyone have the default image ?
[00:13] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: if you can find a file that does have an icon= type of setting pointing to one of your customisations we can then craft a shell script to search and replace those entries with the default
[00:13] <jer> Moe_A, that could be a property of how h264 is actually compressed and your ability to see finite details; how serious is it?
[00:14] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: it should be in your filesys already, not sure where it will be located for Unity tho
[00:14] <Moe_A> jer, it hurts the eyes after few minutes of watching a movie.. the same movie runs fine on windows 10 though'
[00:15] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: for example did you customise the Desktop folder icon? if so, show us the $HOME/Desktop/.directory file contents
[00:15] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I tried find $HOME -type f -name '.directory but must have gotten it wrong. It's ok.   (2) what do you mean by 'type of setting'  above?
[00:16] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: there should be a closing quote mark there
[00:16] <jer> Moe_A, have you tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers, or change the version you are running?
[00:17] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: " find $HOME -type f -name '.directory' "
[00:17] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: I'm assuming the directories you changed are all in your home directory, not system-wide?
[00:17] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I also have a simlink between my user dir and Desktop ( so my entire home dir appears on the desktop ).  I'm not sure if a 'Desktop' icon even exists anymore ( or maybe is not seen if it does ).
[00:17] <venzen> TJ-: should that not be -type d ?
[00:18] <Moe_A> jer, yes I did reinstall but didn't try a different version. When I'm gaming the graphics are normal though
[00:18] <TJ-> venzen: no
[00:19] <buggaboosanchez> find $HOME -type f -name '.directory'  yeilds :      /home/<username>/DEVELOP--A--CONTENT--AUTHORING--PROGRAM/SourceCode/scribus-1.4.6/scribus/.directory
[00:19] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: that sounds like you'll be creating an endless loop of directories! $HOME > Desktop => $HOME > Desktop ...
[00:19] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: OK, so that won't be it then, not in the .directory files
[00:20] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: i guess it'll be written into some config under $HOME/.local/ or $HOME/.config/ then
[00:20] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: That part has been working fine. It's the icon image(s)
[00:20] <buggaboosanchez> I will look
[00:20] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: what's the name of one of those custom icons, exactly? I can craft a search for you
[00:21] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I just recalled how this got so out of control.  It looked great right after I changed all the icons but I didn't realize that new dirs that I created after that would not have the custom image but the default instead. That's how I ended up with multiple dir images on the system
[00:22] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: let me see if I can get a name
[00:28] <buggaboosanchez> An icon used on one, single dir is "camera.png" Another one is ...  I can't seem to find the other one. Then the reast are a third one.
[00:28] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: " grep -rn 'camera\.png' $HOME/.local/ $HOME/.config/"
[00:28] <buggaboosanchez> Idk how to find out the name bc all I know how to do is nav through the properties and that doesn't tell you
[00:28] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: if that search gets a hit you've at least found out where the settings are stored, and can start to figure out how to change/revert
[00:28] <buggaboosanchez> ok
[00:29] <goIIum> how can i install hexchat?
[00:29] <goIIum> i don’t know it exactly name is haxcht or something?
[00:30] <ASpacy> goIIum: it's called hexchat
[00:30] <ASpacy> install it with apt, as like: sudo apt install hexchat
[00:31] <goIIum> thanks :)
[00:31] <ASpacy> it's by default on the Ubuntu repos
[00:31] <ASpacy> np :P
[00:31] <goIIum> default
[00:31] <goIIum> :)
[00:32] <goIIum> The program 'hexchat' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:  ASpacy
[00:32] <goIIum> ?
[00:32] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Not sure I should publish the output of that grep.  There are 3 results. All 3 are binary files. 2 have to do with zietgiest/sqlite  somthing and the top entry is: /home/myuname/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home matches
[00:32] <ASpacy> what I said, install it via apt, run this command: sudo apt install hexchat
[00:33] <goIIum> ASpacy: thanks
[00:33] <goIIum> ASpacy: anyway ubuntu user use hexchat to log in irc?
[00:34] <ASpacy> what do you mean?
[00:34] <goIIum> hexchat is most popular irc app?
[00:34] <goIIum> there is more popular irc app than hexchat?
[00:35] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: Ahhh, well, we're making progress at least
[00:35] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: cool
[00:35] <goIIum> ASpacy: ?
[00:35] <buggaboosanchez> thank you for helping btw
[00:35] <bazhang> goIIum, there is what you like, there is NO best
[00:35] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: this answer suggests you can just delete all those files: see https://superuser.com/questions/100545/files-in-local-share-gvfs-metadata-in-ubuntu#144238
[00:35] <ASpacy> goIIum: HexChat is one of the most used clients, although it depends mainly on your likes
[00:36] <goIIum> thanks ASpacy :)
[00:36] <goIIum> ok bazhang
[00:37] <goIIum> ASpacy: yeah i installed it, but you know networks name?
[00:38] <goIIum> Ubuntu servers(freenode) is correct? ASpacy ?
[00:38] <ASpacy> goIIum: it includes a list by default, for example this one - freenode/Ubuntu servers (freenode)
[00:38] <ASpacy> yup
[00:38] <goIIum> thanks :)
[00:38] <ASpacy> that one is for here
[00:38] <ASpacy> np!
[00:38] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: this seems to confirm that is where the "emblem" (icon) data is: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10874702/gnome-where-does-nautilus-store-emblem-data-and-how
[00:41] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Sorry, my computer froze ( bc of "ubuntu browser" ) and I had no choice but to reboot.   I lost the link you gave.   Can yo paste it again please?
[00:42] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: this answer suggests you can just delete all those files: see https://superuser.com/questions/100545/files-in-local-share-gvfs-metadata-in-ubuntu#144238
[00:42] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: this seems to confirm that is where the "emblem" (icon) data is: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10874702/gnome-where-does-nautilus-store-emblem-data-and-how
[00:43] <aus_mal> brew cask install font-inconsolata
[00:43] <aus_mal> :)
[00:43] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I'll read that. Ty
[00:51] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: And you think that deleting those file ( and restarting? ) will solve my problem?
[00:52] <buggaboosanchez> there are about a dozen files there some of them start with "uuid" and end with some kind of hash or something ( letters numbers )
[00:52] <buggaboosanchez> ^ I thought things with a uuid were a block device or something that you shouldn't delete?
[00:53] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: UUID is a hash and can be generated and used as identifier for anything, including block device or as a file name
[00:54] <venzen> unique universal identifier
[00:54] <buggaboosanchez> I'm wondering what sequence of events would transpire if I did rm -R that dirs content/  ?
[00:54] <buggaboosanchez> Would it be regenerated after a reboot?
[00:55] <venzen> not sure, what does the SO answer say in the link TJ- provided?
[00:55] <zeep_> hi, are users created during install added to the sudo group?
[00:56] <buggaboosanchez> venzen: I'm not sure it applies bc the op's question seems to have a different goal than mine.  Is there any way for me to make the connection that it applies to my sitch?  If I bork this system I have no way to recover
[00:56] <buggaboosanchez> I'd lose all my personal data
[00:56] <buggaboosanchez> If something went wrong
[00:57] <hfp> Hi, I have a question about uncompressed tar archives and deduplication. If I have backup software that checks files for duplicate chunks and only uploads the diff to the server, will having all the files in an uncompressed tar archive still allow deduplication? Or will the tar files look completely different even if only one byte on the files in it have changed?
[00:58] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: well you can backup that specific dir to somewhere else in your homedir, then delete its contents. if it doesn't work you can always copy its contents back into place either as your own user or, worst case, as the root user
[01:00] <buggaboosanchez> venzen: It sounds fairly certian that deleting that dir will, at least, not be catastrophic then.  ( I know TJ-said as much but I'm nervoise enough about the sitch to want a confirmation ).  Ty  and sorry Tj
[01:00] <buggaboosanchez> It's important
[01:00] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: I'd do something like "mkdir $HOME/gvfs-metadata; rsync -delete -av $HOME/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/ $HOME/gvfs-metadata/" to move the files to a backup location
[01:00] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: unlikely to be catastrophic, make a backup just to be sage
[01:00] <venzen> *safe
[01:01] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Thank you.  Here goes nothing  :0
[01:01] <buggaboosanchez> I willl backup ty
[01:01] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: then log-out, log-in to refresh
[01:01] <venzen> buggaboosanchez: be sure to delete the contents and not the dir itself :)
[01:01] <buggaboosanchez> I'll come back let you know how it worked
[01:01] <buggaboosanchez> venzen: ok
[01:01] <buggaboosanchez> see you in a min
[01:07] <buggaboosanchez> Here goes the reboot
[01:11] <swift110> lol
[01:11] <swift110> hey ahoneybun
[01:17] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: venzen: Nothing catastrophic happened ( you know )  - yay!     So now all the emblems are the same across the system but they aren't the default either ( they aren't horrible, but they aren't great either ).  Here is what it's like now ...   Emblem is: https://imgur.com/a/5lPQs   And the content of the gvfs-metadata dir is: https://pastebin.com/axW2bSJb
[01:17] <buggaboosanchez> I'm curious ...   Is it possible to use this method to set the emblem of my choice but to have ti system wide as well as new dirs created have it when created?
[01:18] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: OK, so now create a new user, log-in to it, then copy over the contents of it's /home/<newuser>/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/ to /home/<youruser>/.local/share/gvfs-metadata and the original emblems and other stuff should be restored
[01:18] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: no idea, you'd need to consult the source-code
[01:20] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Ok, sounds great.  One follow up questoin.  If I do that ( copy contents from newuser ) will I also have to do a chown and / or chmod to set everything to <user> ?
[01:21] <buggaboosanchez> Would I have a ownership issue I mean?
[01:24] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: You'd need to do it as root, using 'sudo ...' so yes, you'd need to re-won the files after with "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/.local/share/gvfs-metadata"
[01:24] <TJ-> s/re-won/re-own/
[01:25] <buggaboosanchez> Ok. I thought I remember how a user with admin privs could assume the role of another user and issue commands on thier behalf
[01:25] <buggaboosanchez> I don't recall the command(s) - we did it in school years ago ( I think )
[01:26] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: so you'd do "sudo rsync -av /home/<newuser>/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/ $HOME/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/" then "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/.local/share/gvfs-metadata"
[01:26] <buggaboosanchez> ahh
[01:27] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I really appreciate it man
[01:27] <buggaboosanchez> ty
[01:27] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: in those commands you can pretty much copy-paste them, the only thing to change is <newuser> to whatever you chose to use. The $HOME and $USER will be replaced by the correct values
[01:27] <buggaboosanchez> right on
[01:27] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: I'm assuming you execute these commands whilst logged in as your current user, not the <newuser> of course
[01:31] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: got it
[01:31] <buggaboosanchez> thanks
[01:40] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Running that command I get: 'rsync: change_dir "/home/mynewuser/.local/share/gvfs-metadata" failed: No such file or directory (2)' , total size is 0  speedup is 0.00  and   rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1183) [sender=3.1.1]  in my output.. sudo ls newuser reveals only 4 files and no dirs in that 'mynewuser' directory.  What did I do wrong?
[01:41] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: did you log-in as that new user yet, to have the configs created by the gvfs daemon
[01:42] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: you need to log-in as <newuser>, do something with the file manager just in case, check that the .local/share/gvfs-metadata directory now exists, then log-out and back into your regular account
[01:42] <ahoneybun> swift110: heyo
[01:43] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: I did not know that. Thanks
[01:43] <TJ-> buggaboosanchez: it's almost 3am here so I have to go... hope you get it all sorted out
[01:46] <buggaboosanchez> TJ-: Have a peaceful sleep man
[01:46] <buggaboosanchez> peace
[02:36] <BenderRodriguez> what's the difference between 'apt upgrade' and 'apt full-upgrade' and 'apt dist-upgrade' ?
[02:36] <oerheks> full-upgrade and dist-upgrade do the same
[02:36] <oerheks> !full-upgrade
[02:36] <oerheks> !dist-upgrade
[02:37] <BenderRodriguez> hmm
[02:37] <BenderRodriguez> !upgrade
[02:37] <oerheks> full-upggrade gives newer kernel and such, if available
[03:09] <xaxxon> how do I see what version of ubuntu I'm running from the command line?
[03:12] <tieinv> lsb_release -a
[03:12] <xaxxon> lsb_release -a
[03:12] <xaxxon> thanks :)
[03:14] <klf> Xenial software updater automatically updated my firefox;  I need to go back to a previous version of ff.  How can I go about that?
[03:23] <Ben64> klf: why would you need to go to backwards? if it got updated it's for a good reason
[03:25] <klf> Ben64, In the case of FF, I'd disagree.  FF is transitioning to e10s, and dropping all the XPCOM stuff, as a result many many extensions are affected.
[03:25] <Ben64> for good reasons
[03:30] <klf> if their market share depends heavily on extensions, and the upgrades they make aren't supported by 3rd party developers then it's bad.
[03:31] <klf> we're digressing.  if anyone else wants to answer my uestion, that'll be great.
[03:32] <Ben64> the answer is you shouldn't and can't, unless you want to delete your profile, purge firefox and install from elsewhere
[03:34] <promet__> Has anyone else been having storage volumes being, sort of, conflated in 16.04? I've been getting various disk storage warnings and pop-ups, some of which seem to indicate that baobab, df, etc are sometimes summing volume size in a non-intuitive way
[03:36] <promet__> I have a couple of external volumes, that seemed to get glommed onto my internal root / directory in a way that 16.04 loves to complain about
[03:36] <promet__> don't get me wrong, this is sometimes me. I have way too much going on on a 128G drive, sometimes though...
[03:48] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know how to uninstall a program from wine?
[03:53] <venzen> gt8ost4l: there should be a menu entry for that, but if its not obvious in Unity see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/101064/uninstall-a-program-installed-with-wine
[03:58] <gt8ost4l> vensen:i already tried that
[03:58] <gt8ost4l> it still doesnt go show up
[03:58] <gt8ost4l> the latest firefox i mean
[04:03] <gt8ost4l> nevermind i installed the wrong version
[04:39] <psychoticwarrior> whats up ppkl
[04:40] <psychoticwarrior> ppl
[04:45] <joegiampaoli> doing a clean install of 16.04 LTS, NVIDIA binary drivers are not installing through the Additional Drivers GUI, I did click apply changes, nothing happening, progress bar is stuck at the begining...
[04:45] <joegiampaoli> BRB
[04:47] <psychoticwarrior> shit mang did you try software updates
[04:47] <psychoticwarrior> the program
[04:49] <davido_> My calculator app (and some others such as gedit) open with artifacts from the window behind them in their main text area.
[04:49] <psychoticwarrior> i think its under additional drivers
[04:49] <davido_> I could post a link to a screencap, would that be ok?
[04:49] <davido_> (to demonstrate the issue)
[04:49] <psychoticwarrior> go for it
[04:49] <davido_> https://imagebin.ca/v/3am9Qjkd1jE6
[04:49] <psychoticwarrior> did u design that program
[04:50] <psychoticwarrior> or you just coding in the background
[04:50] <davido_> the background one in vim in my terminal?
[04:50] <davido_> Just showing that the window behind is showing through the calculator.
[04:50] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[04:51] <davido_> It's not a transparency; if I move the calc around, it keeps the same image in its result window.
[04:51] <davido_> or result pane, whatever it's called. ;)
[04:51] <psychoticwarrior> so what are you trying to achieve
[04:52] <davido_> Trying to achive being able to use the calculator or gedit again without background artifacts appearing.
[04:52] <elricsfate> Hey guys
[04:52] <psychoticwarrior> damn maybe try ps aux
[04:53] <psychoticwarrior> and then kill <app>
[04:53] <elricsfate> Is there a special way to add an applet in KDE?
[04:53] <elricsfate> I'm trying to add the aplet for redshift
[04:53] <psychoticwarrior> or system monitor depending on what desktop environment you are using
[04:53] <elricsfate> Already installed it
[04:53] <elricsfate> Just not sure how to actually enable it
[04:54] <davido_> I'm not explaining clearly, I know.  If I open gedit, or the calc, the background gets captured as a portion of the application's main window area.  This has been happening for awhile -- not related to the process tree. ;)
[04:54] <psychoticwarrior> damn im not really sure
[04:54] <davido_> I thought the screen cap would demonstrate but I guess not so much.
[04:55] <davido_> I could probably find an answer somewhere if I had an idea what terms to search for, but it's rather difficult to conjure the right search terms to find anything like this.
[04:56] <psychoticwarrior> yea im not sure how to resolve your problem
[04:56] <joegiampaoli> So no ideas on my question? (bump)
[04:57] <elricsfate> Nevermind, got it.
[04:57] <davido_> alright. I've been living with it for awhile. I can check back here during daylight hours (localtime) to see if a different set of individuals here might have some thoughts on it.
[05:00] <davido_> Odd though. I can even minimize the calc app, remove the window that was behind it (the terminal in this case), raise the calc again, and that same background residual image is still there.
[05:03] <psychoticwarrior> strange error you got therer
[06:13] <basalt> hi, after open laptop ubuntu is fast to display the desktop, but reconnect to wlan takes about 20 to 30 seconds and during this time, the mouse pointer is not responding, any hints? (17.04)
[06:52] <gnomethrower> Hi guys - is there any reason why a Ubuntu 16.04 machine running Sendmail would have issues sending to a new TLD like .energy?
[06:53] <gnomethrower> sorry, sending /from/ that TLD
[06:53] <gnomethrower> we have an identically setup CentOS 7 box with the same app trying to send mail, and it works fine - in staging
[06:55] <ducasse> gnomethrower: no hints in the logs?
[06:56] <gnomethrower> ducasse: Not that I initially found, but let me take a better look now before we continue :)
[07:01] <gnomethrower> ducasse: I think I've found the culprit
[07:01] <gnomethrower> one sec, sanitizing
[07:05] <gnomethrower> Sep 18 06:59:41 foobar-web01 sm-mta[32361]: 321123321: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<mytestrecipient@gmail.com>, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=553 5.1.8 <mytestrecipient@gmail.com>... Domain of sender address testemail@client.energy does not exist
[07:07] <ducasse> can dns on the host find the domain?
[07:10] <ducasse> gnomethrower: ^^
[07:18] <gnomethrower> ducasse: Sorry to disappear
[07:18] <gnomethrower> but I think we found the issue
[07:18] <gnomethrower> most tools claim that the client domain does not exist
[07:18] <gnomethrower> and indeed it is registered but has no records besides NS
[07:19] <ducasse> gnomethrower: right, check the records on your dns server
[07:19] <ducasse> and that it responds at all
[07:20] <gnomethrower> ducasse: at this stage I think what has happened
[07:20] <gnomethrower> is that the old version of sendmail on the CentOS 7 box is (necessarily) very old compared to Ubuntu's
[07:21] <gnomethrower> and that at some point sendmail added a check that your from email exists and is on a domain that exists
[07:21] <gnomethrower> so the fix should be simple; just add some records and make sure, as you said, that it responds correctly
[07:21] <gnomethrower> but that explains why this "works on staging" issue is occurring
[07:23] <ducasse> either that, or someone put in a hosts entry or something on the centos box
[07:29] <gnomethrower> ducasse: That's a point - we could use that to test this
[07:30] <gnomethrower> (temporarily of course!)
[07:32] <ducasse> gnomethrower: depends on what sendmail looks for, i really can't answer that.
[07:33] <gnomethrower> ducasse: either way thanks for your help :)
[07:33] <ducasse> no problem, hope you'll get it working :)
[07:39] <gnomethrower> ducasse: Spot on. Adding client.energy to /etc/hosts pointing to 127.0.0.1 bypassed the check just fine and mail now works
[07:39] <gnomethrower> We're going to make them add a proper A record etc ASAP, but for now that solves the mystery of the failed email forms ;)
[07:39] <ducasse> gnomethrower: brilliant, then you just have to fix dns ;)
[07:39] <gnomethrower> Thank you so much for the suggestion, it let us properly verify what the issue waas
[07:39] <gnomethrower> which is sometimes rare!
[07:40] <ducasse> you're welcome
[07:40] <gnomethrower> yep
[08:03] <TomyWork> hi
[08:07] <TomyWork> ubuntu suddenly says it wants to update "screen" from trusty-backports
[08:07] <TomyWork> this contradicts the article about backports saying "For this reason, the Backports Team recommends configuring the package manager to only install backported packages when they are explicitly requested, which is the default for all Ubuntu releases after and including Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)."
[08:07] <TomyWork> (I'm using 14.04)
[08:09] <Ben64> then you must have backports enabled
[08:10] <TomyWork> obviously, but as said, it should not try to install packages from there at random
[08:11] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25563703/ here's "apt-cache policy screen"
[08:13] <Ben64> right, you have them enabled though
[08:16] <TomyWork> Ben64 correct, but that doesn't help
[08:16] <TomyWork> i will not disable backports because i need a couple of packages from there
[08:16] <Ben64> not sure what you want then
[08:17] <TomyWork> but i dont want autoupdate to switch screen to trusty-backports
[08:19] <Ben64> so either reset it back to default or install the newer screen
[08:20] <Ben64> not sure why the big deal over a newer version of screen
[08:20] <TomyWork> i'm lucky to have caught this issue before installing the update and i'm concurrently working on looking for other affected packages
[08:20] <TomyWork> Ben64 i suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports before going on
[08:20] <Ben64> i already did
[08:20] <TomyWork> especially sections 2 and 3
[08:20] <Ben64> if you read it you'd know how to set it back to default
[08:20] <TomyWork> about security and stability
[08:24] <TomyWork> Ben64 i noticed this because i have no key for trusty-backports. when muon updater asked me to acknowledge updating an unauthenticated screen, i got suspicious
[08:24] <TomyWork> i'm pretty sure this is new behaviour
[08:24] <Ben64> nope
[08:25] <TomyWork> i dont quite know how this works... what is the default behaviour if i dont have any /etc/apt/preferences or /etc/apt/preferences.d/*
[08:26] <TomyWork> that was the state of affairs when i started analyzing
[08:26] <TomyWork> added pinning with priority 100 after reading that article
[08:27] <asdfds123> my tplink tl-wn821n v5 usb wifi stick can find available networks but router doesnt accept password even though password is correct (it works in windows) what to do?
[08:29] <TomyWork> "apt-show-versions -i; apt-show-versions -b | grep trusty-backports" doesn't show anything, which is a relief to me and further evidence that the default was recently changed.
[08:30] <Ben64> changed by you or something you did
[08:32] <TomyWork> i must have been sleepwalking
[08:38] <TomyWork> Ben64 see, if you can't even tell me what the default behaviour is, in the absence of any preferences file, I'll consider it more likely that ubuntu changed something that you are unaware of than that I did something that I'm not aware of. I've had backports enabled for like a year now and never had this happen.
[08:39] <Ben64> again, no. you posted what the default behavior is, it's in the link you posted a couple times
[08:39] <TomyWork> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screen/ and if you look at the last modified date here, screen 4.2.1 hasnt updated  in 3 years
[08:39] <Ben64> the default didn't change, you did
[08:39] <TomyWork> Ben64 what did i change?
[08:39] <Ben64> you'd be more likely to know that
[08:40] <TomyWork> actually, you're right, i did change the value from the default. half an hour ago before coming here to tell you that ubuntu's default had changed
[08:41] <TomyWork> i assume ubuntu's default is supposed to be 100
[08:41] <TomyWork> apt-cache policy showed 500.
[08:42] <TomyWork> in the past, muon never updated any of my packages to the version from trusty-backports automatically
[08:42] <TomyWork> the package it wants to update is ancient
[08:43] <TomyWork> i now created a config file in preferences.d which pins it to 100
[08:44] <TomyWork> that remedies the situation
[08:44] <TomyWork> but i am worried about the defaults nonetheless
[08:44] <Ben64> again, the defaults haven't changed
[09:13] <TomyWork> Ben64 ok let me take you through this one final time:
[09:14] <TomyWork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Configuring_Backports_for_Manual_Install the note in this section says "Note: This is only necessary on Ubuntu releases before (but not including) Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal); releases after and including Ubuntu 11.04 are configured in this mode by default."
[09:14] <TomyWork> i never touched that directory, so it is in its default state
[09:16] <Ben64> you're assuming that is the only way to change it
[09:16] <TomyWork> that is the only way mentioned in the article
[09:17] <oerheks> = default backports enabled, do you want to roll back?
[09:17] <Ben64> the default hasn't changed, yet it is changed on your system. the preferences file wasn't modified on your system. the only logical conclusion is that it had changed elsewhere
[09:18] <TomyWork> oerheks nothing to rollback, fortunately
[09:18] <oerheks> indeed, all you can do is a fresh install, choose not to update during install, and disable backports after first boot.
[09:19] <TJ-> TomyWork: Best thing to do is pull the source-code *repo* for apt, find where the default priority is hard-coded/defaulted, then look at the commit history for that file
[09:19] <oerheks> i wonder why you "TomyWork i will not disable backports because i need a couple of packages from there"
[09:19] <TomyWork> i should probably pull an installation iso, fire up a VM and try this from a fresh install for myself
[09:19] <TJ-> oerheks: backports packages aren't supposed to be pulled in without a specific manual command by the admin
[09:19] <TomyWork> oerheks well i dont want *all* packages from backports, just a few :)
[09:22] <oerheks> TJ-, but backports are enabled by default.. no admin needed
[09:22] <TomyWork> oerheks enabled, but not pulled from
[09:22] <TJ-> oerheks: incorrect, the policy is that when backports repo is available, the *default* pinning should prevent those packages automatically replacing existing packages unless the admin commands the install
[09:23] <oerheks> ... huh?
[09:23] <Ben64> oerheks: like so https://hastebin.com/gakaleqola.rb
[09:23] <TJ-> oerheks: otherwise the system could be automatically upgrading packages the admin does not wish to be touched, since 'backports' repo is for special cases where no other course short of a manual source-code build is possible
[09:23] <oerheks> i see this different, you will automaticly get backported packages, as security updates
[09:24] <TomyWork> Ben64 that's what it says for you? any preferences files?
[09:24] <oerheks> TJ-, backports <> proposed..
[09:24] <Ben64> TomyWork: nope
[09:24] <TJ-> oerheks: backports aren't security upgrades
[09:24] <TomyWork> ls -alh /etc/preferences*
[09:24] <TomyWork> then that is very strange
[09:24] <Ben64> why do you think i kept saying it hasn't changed
[09:25] <TomyWork> cause you hadn't backed it up with anything, of course
[09:25] <Ben64> ha
[09:25] <TJ-> oerheks: no. -proposed is the feed for -updates. -backports is for packages from later releases that provide additional features that really ought to be in the earlier release
[09:25] <Ben64> i don't go around making things up
[09:25] <TomyWork> how would i know? :)
[09:25] <Ben64> you could have asked if you were that unsure
[09:25] <TomyWork> well i instead tried to back up my position
[09:26] <Ben64> by assumptions
[09:26] <TomyWork> no, not really
[09:26] <TomyWork> basically by the same output you gave
[09:26] <hethkar> On ubuntu16.04 i am quite regularly running  fsck from live boot to recover and login back into the machine.. how do i find out the issue causing this
[09:26] <TomyWork> except for minor details like a 5 instead of a 1
[09:26] <Ben64> all you were going on was your experience on one system
[09:26] <TomyWork> and you checked multiple systems?
[09:26] <Ben64> i have a ton of 14.04 systems all with the same result
[09:27] <TomyWork> ah
[09:27] <TomyWork> well i dont have more than one at my disposal
[09:28] <oerheks> TJ-, hmm indeed, backports contain no security fixes, i was wrong about this, for years...
[09:28] <oerheks> :-(
[09:28] <oerheks> 'selective newer versions'
[09:29] <TomyWork> well i have no idea what's going on... i havent updated screen since at least 2016-09-29
[09:29] <TomyWork> and i dont know what, besides the "preferences" files affects pinning
[09:29] <oerheks> hethkar, 'regularly running  fsck ' .. sounds like a faulty disk
[09:30] <oerheks> check disks > s.m.a.r.t.
[09:32] <ducasse> hethkar: can you describe what actually happens? you've given us no details.
[09:33] <TJ-> TomyWork: I'm going through the apt source and history for the version in trusty-updates/ecurity. Can you tell me the "apt-cache policy apt" installed version please?
[09:34] <TomyWork> Installed: 1.0.1ubuntu2.17
[09:35] <TomyWork> either from trusty-updates or from trusty-security
[09:35] <TJ-> TomyWork: source repos on bzr are a mess; they show the -security version behind -updates!
[09:35] <TomyWork> odd
[09:36] <hethkar> ducasse: the user cannot boot into the ubuntu 16.04 OS whenever that happens it goes to the initramfs screen. So i use usb live boot and run sudo fsck -y on the devices and only then it will boot into the OS..
[09:36] <TJ-> TomyWork: and the latest from -updates as 2.10 !
[09:36] <hethkar> This is the smartdetails for the disk http://dpaste.com/05QG556
[09:37] <TomyWork> TJ- hmm, that's the official bzr? :)
[09:39] <Skyrider> Lag: 639 ms
[09:39] <TJ-> TomyWork: yes, the branches linked from launchpad. The source-code side has always beena  mess, not knowing where to find the correct repo, because dev's/packagers can do it how ever they want - no consistency. I've lost track of the number of times I've been chasing a clue on a bug only to discover I'm using an obselete source code repo. Sometimes the only thing to do is pull the actual source package which
[09:39] <TJ-> obviously doesn't contain the commit history
[09:39] <Skyrider> err, ignore that
[09:40] <TomyWork> TJ- so it's not just me? :)
[09:41] <TJ-> TomyWork: and the version in the git repos for trusty-proposed is 2.15 ... getting closer!
[09:41] <TJ-> TomyWork: oh no, it's one of those Monday mornings :D
[09:41] <TomyWork> if you're lucky, some maintainers accidentally leave their git or bazaar directory in the source package :)
[09:41] <TJ-> TomyWork: ha! found it (the up to date branch that is) https://code.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/ubuntu/+source/apt/+git/apt/+ref/applied/ubuntu/trusty-updates
[09:42] <TJ-> TomyWork: very rarely - the packaging tools specifically exclude such things
[09:42] <TomyWork> Ben64 are you on apt 1.0.1ubuntu2.17, too?
[09:42] <Ben64> yep
[09:44] <TJ-> TomyWork: well, i'm pulling the code. I just need to find the section that sets the default Pin::Priority in for an instance of the Pin class (it's C++)
[09:44] <TJ-> TomyWork: stick around I'll update you later once I've figured it all out
[09:45] <TJ-> TomyWork: it could be the change came about due to a sync from Debian in which case the Debian repo history will be needed
[09:46] <ducasse> hethkar: do you have any problems before the system shuts down? if not, we need the error before it drops to the initramfs prompt.
[09:49] <TomyWork> TJ- there's a ButAutomaticUpgrades flag, which is supposed to trigger a priority of 100. that looks like it's taken from the Release file, if i read this correctly
[09:49] <TomyWork> but i only have the 2.2 source here
[09:50] <hethkar> ducasse: this one i remember for sure when the system was put to shutdown in the evening.. the next day morning it was still shutting down.. with the ubuntu logo screen and moving dots
[09:50] <TomyWork> /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-backports_InRelease says "NotAutomatic: yes" and " ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes"
[09:51] <TomyWork> it's also an older file (Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017  9:04:52 UTC)
[09:52] <TJ-> TomyWork: yeah, I saw that flag earlier whilst skimming it
[09:53] <TomyWork> 2017-02-02 17:59:59 upgrade apt:amd64 1.0.1ubuntu2.15 1.0.1ubuntu2.17
[09:53] <TomyWork> no upgrade in a while
[09:56] <TJ-> TomyWork: according to the documentation, with those 2 flags, the priority should be set to 100
[09:56] <TJ-> TomyWork: see man 5 apt_preferences
[09:56] <TomyWork> ok i removed my preferences file and disabled+enabled the "unsupported upgrades" checkbox in muon's software sources config
[09:56] <TomyWork> now it's at 100
[09:56] <TomyWork> strange
[09:58] <TJ-> TomyWork: that should just be altering what's set in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ etc
[09:59] <TomyWork> yeah
[10:00] <TomyWork> really really strange
[10:01] <TomyWork> this literally popped up this morning, btw
[10:01] <TomyWork> we had some network difficulties, could there be a relation?
[10:01] <TomyWork> i wish i still had that Release file from that time...
[10:02] <TomyWork> anyway, thanks for the help. let's hope it's not some actual problem :)
[10:03] <TomyWork> like someone infiltrating that repo
[10:03] <TomyWork> :)
[10:05] <TJ-> TomyWork: as it only occurred today it might be the archive Releases file rather than apt itself. It's certainly  a weird one. One thing I forgot to ask though, if you use the command-line apt/apt-get to you get the same action attempted, or is it only with the GUI updater?
[10:06] <TJ-> TomyWork: wondering if the GUI tool is somehow responsible
[10:09] <TJ-> TomyWork: even apt-pkg/policy.cc, in it's opening comments, says: "100         = The status file and ButAutomaticUpgrades sources"
[10:11] <TJ-> TomyWork: I see how it *could* have happened. The code first sets the default priority to 500. Then it iterates over the archive Release files and if it finds a ButAutomaticUpgrades=yes it sets the priority to 100.
[10:12] <TJ-> TomyWork: so, if for some reason the local -backports Release/Package-list files were corrupt or signatures didn't verify, I can imagine those being ignored and the default of 500 holding.
[10:13] <TJ-> TomyWork: this is in apt-pkg/policy.cc::pkgPolicy::InitDefaults()
[10:13] <TJ-> TomyWork: you could do some tests whilst passing "Debug::pkgPolicy" to apt's config via the command line
[10:31] <Arunangshu> hi
[10:44] <^newLinux> want to autostart deluge please help me
[10:45] <^newLinux> using ubuntu 14.04
[10:46] <ballpen[m]> ^newLinux: on boot??
[10:46] <^newLinux> yes
[10:46] <^newLinux> and run it as system service
[10:47] <^newLinux> ballpen[m],
[10:47] <ballpen[m]> ^newLinux: https://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[10:51] <Arunangshu> after installing any app it get pinned launcher automatically. how i can stop this feature. please help
[11:06] <Arunangshu> after installing any app it get pinned launcher automatically. how i can stop this feature. please help
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:52] <Skyrider> How does one create a python3 cron job?
[11:53] <rory> as in, a cron job which runs a python3 script?
[11:54] <rory> cron doesn't care what it's running, you can put the command with arguments as if you were typing it on the CLI
[11:55] <scottjl> 1 * * * /usr/bin/python3 /some/script.py
[11:56] <Skyrider> What if the script requires an extra argument? Would I run it like "/some/script.py stuffhere" ?
[11:56] <geirha> needs more *
[11:56] <scottjl> yes
[11:59] <Skyrider> Mh, I'm getting
[11:59] <Skyrider> "[Errno 2] No such file or directory"
[11:59] <ioria> it's not an argument, maybe it's a file ... full path ?
[12:00] <scottjl> whatever you put in cron, can you run that line from the command line?
[12:00] <Skyrider> When running "* * * * * /usr/bin/python3 "/home/skyrider/reddit/crlog/main.py stuffhere" > /tmp/listener.log 2>&1"
[12:00] <Skyrider> Without the " in the beginning and the end
[12:00] <scottjl> yeah you shouldn't need any "
[12:00] <Skyrider> But spaces are used, I assumed " would be needed.
[12:01] <scottjl> no
[12:01] <Skyrider> Alright, edited/saved.
[12:01] <scottjl> Skyrider: man 5 crontab
[12:01] <Skyrider> And yea, when I run python3 main.py stuffhere, it works fine.
[12:02] <Skyrider> mh, same error.
[12:02] <ioria> Skyrider, what is "stuffhere"  exactly ?
[12:02] <Skyrider> clash royale clanID.
[12:02] <Skyrider> So the py knows which ID to target.
[12:02] <gunix> Skyrider: rory scottjl: you can add #!/usr/bin/python3 on the first line. it's called shebang ... and by using it you don't need within cron to specify python3, and just point it to the script
[12:03] <Skyrider> With the #?
[12:03] <Skyrider> Interesting, thanks :D
[12:04] <Skyrider> Weird, more errors.. cant read /var/mail/logger, and unable to open X server. Plus, "Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")"
[12:04] <gunix> search for bash script shebang on google.
[12:05] <scottjl> gunix yeah shebang works great, if it's the correct path. doesn't hurt to specify
[12:05] <gunix> scottjl: which python3
[12:05] <scottjl> gunix: as i said, doesn't hurt to specify.
[12:05] <ioria> Skyrider, X server ? it's a gui script ?
[12:06] <scottjl> if you have multiple copies of python3 installed, you can be sure you're using the one you want
[12:06] <Skyrider> Not as far as I know, if I run it manually, the CSV files are being printed in the same directory of the script.
[12:06] <Skyrider> So running it manually as a command line works fine.
[12:06] <scottjl> say system installed vs. /usr/local installed
[12:07] <gunix> with multiple copies of python3, you probably have virtual environments. you have to run the script within the virt env where your packages are located
[12:08] <gunix> i guess what means creating a bash script that loads the virt env and passing the python script to it. i never tried this
[12:08] <scottjl> gunix or maybe you don't. who knows.
[12:08] <scottjl> never assume.
[12:08] <ioria> Skyrider, we need the script
[12:08] <Skyrider> https://github.com/akaminetzkyp/RoyaleStats
[12:09] <gunix> scottjl: you are challenging me to create a VM and try this. and that would make me interrupt my current project. and if i am right=, that would make me rub it in your face cause i lost time to prove it :D
[12:09] <scottjl> gunix: i couldn't care less about what you want to try. i'm simply pointing out that you (1) can specify a full path and (2) it's not a bad idea to be sure you're running exactly what you think you are instead of relying on $PATH.
[12:10] <scottjl> or a shebang from some script written by who knows.
[12:10] <scottjl> but knock yourself out dude
[12:11] <Linux_Explore> are xubuntu and ubuntu the same? can xubuntu users ask for solutions here on this channel?
[12:11] <konrados> anybody knows the answer - binding  L_ALT + LEFT ARROW to BackSpace with X11 and xkb : https://askubuntu.com/questions/956752/mapping-l-alt-left-arrow-to-backspace-with-x11-and-xkb
[12:11] <konrados> ?
[12:12] <scottjl> Linux_Explore: #xubuntu has its own channel.
[12:12] <Linux_Explore> scottjl, ok
[12:12] <scottjl> Linux_Explore: you can ask here, but you're bound to get better answers there.
[12:13] <Linux_Explore> scottjl, ok
[12:23] <ioria> Skyrider, you added the shebang and removed python3 from the cronjob cmd , but did you make the file executable ?
[12:24] <Skyrider> Yea, the file is set to 775
[12:24] <Skyrider> including the other py files, to be sure.
[12:24] <Skyrider> Wouldnt the cronjob just run under my username?
[12:25] <ioria> Skyrider, and /tmp/listener.log what it says now ?
[12:26] <Skyrider> Same errors as I posted earlier, i haven't changed anything as they were already executable.
[12:26] <Skyrider> Cronjob line is now: * * * * * /home/skyrider/reddit/crlog/main.py LGL8UC2 > /tmp/listener.log 2>&1
[12:26] <Skyrider> With #!/usr/bin/python3 above it
[12:27] <ioria> Skyrider, imean the content of  /tmp/listener.log  ...
[12:28] <Skyrider> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25564959/
[12:28] <Skyrider> I'm aware :)
[12:31] <ioria> Skyrider, i'd say an error in the script ?
[12:31] <ioria> Skyrider, line 5
[12:32] <Skyrider> Why would it work manually though?
[12:33] <Skyrider> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25564986/
[12:34] <tsglove> Wow... the software installation program has to be given some love.   If I search for ¨digikam¨, that specific program doesn´t show up.  Yet if in command line I do  apt-cache search digikam     first result is that program.   What gives?
[12:38] <TJ-> tsglove: I seem to recall quite a few bugs with software center along those lines, most of which are caused by a locally corrupt cache, which can be deleted so it is rebuilt cleanly
[12:42] <tsglove> TJ-, ah... I see.  Lemme try that then.  Thanks!
[12:42] <ioria> Skyrider,    chmod +x main.py  and try again
[12:43] <Skyrider> do I have to alter the cronjob to restart it?
[12:44] <ioria> Skyrider,  nope
[12:46] <Skyrider> Still same error.
[12:46] <TJ-> tsglove: I had a similar experience recently where there were 2 copies of the process in memory, but only the 2nd was showing the GUI, but that process couldn't access the cache files because the hidden process had locks on them. Took a while to figure that one out
[12:46] <tsglove> Ah damn... that one would have pulled the hairs out.
[12:47] <tsglove> Yet sometimes those problems are good (for me at least)... I learn more and more about the system/OS.
[12:47] <ioria> Skyrider,  change the shebang with  #!/usr/bin/env python3
[12:48] <tsglove> and with every 18.37 hours of straight troubleshooting (no slacking!), a grey-hair on your beard pops out.     Slowly but surely, turning one into a Grey-Beard Wizard.
[12:48] <Skyrider> Sorry mate, same error.
[12:49] <Skyrider> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25565072/
[12:52] <ghost2911> Hi. What do I need to install to send email via command line ? I want to use mailx.
[12:53] <hateball> !mail
[12:53] <hateball> ugh
[12:54] <Skyrider> So no idea why it aint working.
[12:55] <ioria> Skyrider,  so, it a relative path issue ; as the cron job is not executed in this directory, and you use relative path in the program
[12:58] <neure> hi
[12:58] <Skyrider> hi
[12:58] <neure> anyone know image view program that has options how to display alpha channel?
[12:59] <neure> i havent one yet which would have option to show rgba image just as rgb
[12:59] <pax_rhos> hello, I don't know where to ask that: we have a log that sometimes logs a server's response, so we have a html in that log. What's the easiest way to yield lines n:m of file x.log into a file y.html?
[12:59] <neure> i almost found one program, gliv, but it seems to be a bit too buggy for me (not displaying some pixels)
[13:00] <Skyrider> ioria: This is weird.
[13:00] <Skyrider> if I use: * * * * * python3 /home/skyrider/reddit/crlog/main.py LGL8UC2 > /tmp/listener.log 2>&1
[13:00] <Skyrider> The log says the exact same thing as I would manually run it, like it should.
[13:01] <Skyrider> But nothing is being printed in the same directory (the 2 csv files it would write)
[13:01] <ducasse> ghost2911: try msmtp
[13:02] <Skyrider> Actually, I was wrong
[13:02] <Skyrider> It's being printed in my home directory.
[13:02] <geirha> Skyrider: if it needs to run in a specific directory, change dir first. E.g. 00 * * * * cd /the/dir && /home/skyrider/reddit/crlog/main.py LGL8UC2
[13:02] <ioria> Skyrider,  really
[13:03] <Skyrider> So, if I CD into any directory, it'll write it there?
[13:04] <Skyrider> That's, handy
[13:04] <geirha> if the python script uses relative paths, sure
[13:04] <ioria> Skyrider,  "It's being printed in my home directory"  y / n ?
[13:05] <Skyrider> So, I only had to add python3 before the rest of the py path.
[13:06] <geirha> Skyrider: might as well add a proper shebang to the script, and make it executable
[13:14] <Skyrider> ?
[13:21] <goblin> Hi, I'm working on a software which has libunwind as a dependency. As I have to test run both i386 and amd64 versions, I want to install both libunwind8 and libunwind8:i386, but despite not being listed under conflicts nor installing libraries into the same locations, I can't install both at the same time. Is this intended behaviour?
[13:30] <goblin> oh, I forgot, I use Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[13:33] <TJ-> goblin: have you got foreign-architecture i386 set ?
[13:37] <beforeclick> goblin with apt-file search you can find almost all packages
[13:38] <TJ-> goblin: multilib means you should be able to co-install the amd64 and i386 packages if foreign-architecture is set
[13:38] <ghost2911> do I need to configure /etc/hosts to use mailx ?
[13:41] <goblin> TJ-, where would I set this? I haven't done this explicitly, but dpkg --print-foreign-architectures does output i386.
[13:43] <TJ-> goblin: then you're all set in that respect. After an "apt update" the package cache will know about the amd64 and i386 packages
[13:46] <goblin> unfortunately, when using apt(8) to install libunwind8:i386, it wants to remove libunwind8. Trying to be smart, I downloaded the deb and installed it using dpkg(1), but that silently removed the other version.
[13:47] <TJ-> goblin: that sounds like there's a remaining dependency that should have been cleaned up ages ago
[13:50] <TJ-> goblin: ahhh, do you have libunwind1-dev installed?
[13:50] <TJ-> look at the difference with "apt-cache depends libunwind8:amd64 libunwind8:i386"
[13:51] <TJ-> goblin: that suggests the different architectures may use different structure sizes, and therefore the build support -dev can't co-exist
[13:53] <goblin> I do have libunwind-dev:amd64 installed
[13:54] <goblin> are libunwind-dev and libunwind1-dev the same?
[13:54] <TJ-> goblin: That is often the hidden issue with multilib, where the different bit-sizes of the architectures mean the structures in the include files in -dev packages are different sizes
[13:55] <TJ-> goblin: I don't see a libunwind1-dev in 16.04: "apt-cache search -n libunwind"
[13:58] <goblin> I understand the issue around the API/ABI difference, but even as I removed libunwind-dev, apt won't let me install libunwind8:i386 without removing libunwind8:amd64.
[13:59] <TJ-> let me try it
[14:00] <beforeclick> sdagae
[14:00] <beforeclick> hmm
[14:01] <jamie_1> hey right now im setting up an ubuntu server and for some odd reason when i connect it asks for password and when i enter the password it tells me its wrong (i knows its right)
[14:01] <TJ-> goblin: same experience here, even after removing both -dev packages. There's no conflict declared so it must be due to a dependency graph issue
[14:02] <goblin> Okay, thank you very much for trying and your support.
[14:02] <goblin> Then I'll see if compiling a version on my own and having it live in another location can fix my issues.
[14:04] <TJ-> goblin: there are ways to force it. it helps to identify why the depency is causing this. there are debug flags to apt we can use to find out
[14:05] <goblin> oh, okay, if I can help on this issue I will have a look at it. I have not that much experience with debian, I'm just a user if it comes to Ubuntu.
[14:13] <TJ-> goblin: I'm going to check the actual file lists of each package to see where they conflict, but I can't see how the package declaration for Depends: Conflicts: are causing this
[14:15] <TomyWork> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/25563703/ here's "apt-cache policy screen" from when muon showed available upgrades for screen
[14:15] <goblin> well they *do* share the files /usr/share/doc/libunwind8/changelog.Debian.gz
[14:16] <goblin> and /usr/share/doc/libunwind8/copyright.
[14:17] <TomyWork> problem is: i cant reproduce the issue anymore ^^
[14:18] <TJ-> TomyWork: as I said earlier, I could see how it could happen if the Releases file was corrupt - and you mention network issues
[14:18] <TJ-> goblin: right, which would usually be in a 'common' architecture:all package
[14:18] <TJ-> which both depend on. So I think you know *why* now
[14:19] <TomyWork> TJ- the thing is, the release file also tells apt where to find the Packages files, which then tell apt which package versions are available
[14:19] <TomyWork> so in theory, it's either all or nothing
[14:19] <TJ-> goblin: actually, the changelog would be per-package, so what I said is invalid in that respect. But certainly for other files that holds true
[14:19] <TomyWork> what i had was some kind of mixed state according to that theory
[14:20] <TJ-> TomyWork: the two files are parsed independently though. It's the best explanation I can come up with, especially as the issue was transient
[14:21] <TomyWork> yeah
[14:21] <TJ-> TomyWork: the hypothesis matches the code in pkgconfig.cc too
[14:21] <TomyWork> it's either that, or an attacker infiltrating the repo :)
[14:21] <TomyWork> it does?
[14:21] <TomyWork> let me re-read what you said ^^
[14:22] <goblin> yes, and therefore I decided I don't care and use ``dpkg --force-overwrite -i libunwind8_1.1-4.1_i386.deb'', but this removed the amd64 version.
[14:23] <TomyWork> goblin looks like a bad idea
[14:24] <goblin> TomyWork, I know, but the conflict are only the copyright and changelog, which I frankly do not care about.
[14:24] <TomyWork> you could try removing these files from the new package
[14:25] <TJ-> goblin: no, as I said, I was in error. those files are OK to be shared
[14:25] <TJ-> goblin: I can't get any clues as to why the package resolver wants to remove the amd64 version, even with apt Debug:: settings
[14:27] <TomyWork> fortunately dpkg isn't rpm, which would now potentially have you stuck with a package you can neither uninstall nor reinstall :)
[14:27] <TomyWork> fortunately it ensured a consistent state
[14:27] <TJ-> goblin: aha! if you look at "apt-cache show liblzma5" (one of libunwind8's depends) it has the additional field "Pre-Depends: multiarch-support"
[14:28] <goblin> so does liblzma5:i386
[14:29] <goblin> which I have installed both
[14:30] <goblin> as well as multiarch-support
[14:30] <TJ-> goblin: yes, that's my point, libunwind8 doesn't
[14:31] <TomyWork> are these libs all from the normal ubuntu repos?
[14:31] <TJ-> according to Debian policy, for a multiarch package originally it required the Pre-Depends: clause as well as separating out common paths for executables
[14:31] <TJ-> TomyWork: yes
[14:31] <TJ-> goblin: see https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation
[14:34] <TomyWork> as you mentioned it was originally required. "This is not needed from Debian 8 (Jessie) onwards, and is now deprecated"
[14:34] <TomyWork> now which debian is ubuntu? :)
[14:35] <TomyWork> this change might not have arrived in (your version of) ubuntu yet
[14:43] <goblin> So maybe fixing the debs to pre-depend on multiarch might work?
[14:45] <TomyWork> TJ- i think this is for you ^
[14:45] <goblin> I'll just try and report my findings.
[14:47] <TJ-> goblin: you're on the correct lines. I've just been manually hacking "Multi-Arch: same" into the local files for /var/lib/dpkg/status for libunwind8, and to the /var/lib/apt/lists/<archive-URL-path>xenial_main_binary-i386_Packages and apt now tries to install but barfs on the actual control file extracted from the .deb, so the next step would be to tell apt to download-only and then extract the content and
[14:47] <TJ-> fixup the debian/control file itself
[14:48] <TJ-> goblin: I get this, FYI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25565794/
[14:55] <mensvaga> Anybody know how I'd get an Ubuntu desktop to authenticate against a specific set of accounts on Google?
[14:56] <mensvaga> For instance, if I work for a charity, like goodpeople.org , and I have a bunch of google accounts like: bob@goodpeople.org ,
[14:56] <mensvaga> I want somebody to be able to put "bob@goodpeople.org" and their gmail password, and be able to log into the device.
[14:56] <leftyfb> mensvaga: put chromeOS on the machine
[14:56] <mensvaga> Ah.
[14:56] <mensvaga> but... but.. but I like Ubuntu
[14:58] <leftyfb> mensvaga: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cipher.googlepam/1.6.0
[14:58] <leftyfb> mensvaga: hasn't been updated in 5 years
[14:58] <leftyfb> not a trusted PPA
[14:59] <leftyfb> it talks about "google domain" which means you probably need a google apps/domain account. Not just regular google accounts
[14:59] <leftyfb> mensvaga: also, I found it by searching on google: "ubuntu authenticate to google -factor"
[15:00] <mensvaga> Thanks.
[15:00] <nacc> there used to be account-plugin-google for unity
[15:01] <Richard_Cavell> Hi. I have Ubuntu 16.04 running on a desktop PC and I have an iPad Pro.  What's the best way to transfer my photos from the iPad to Linux?  I have plugged in a USB cable and selected "Trust this computer" on the iPad but it's not working
[15:01] <goblin> TJ, just updating the Pre-Depends line in control did nothing
[15:13] <Not_White_Rabbit> Hi. After removing the VGA cable, xrandr keeps on saying "VGA-1 connected" and commands for turning it off don't work. How is this possible?
[15:13] <Not_White_Rabbit> Is there a way to force a refresh?
[15:14] <mensvaga> Richard_Cavell: sync photos you want to a folder on google drive
[15:15] <mensvaga> then download that folder to ubuntu box for backups
[15:15] <mensvaga> i do that with all of my devices.
[15:17] <mensvaga> then when any storage mechanism is full, I backup to another place, and clear space on the device or google drive.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Richard_Cavell, think ssh might work with apple devices and linux..worked on my linux pc and my daughters Imac
[15:23] <Richard_Cavell> mensvaga: That's a really good idea, thanks
[15:25] <mensvaga> Yep./
[15:25] <mensvaga> Now that I am not eating at my desk, I can use two hands to type!
[15:25] <TJ-> goblin: I captured, via 'script', the commands I used to patch the .deb to make it installable: See here https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/libunwind8-make-multiarch.log
[15:25] <mensvaga> What you wanna do is decrease your reliance on Ipads and  droids, as "good" as they are.  There also is a way to download a folder on google drive from ubuntu directly.
[15:25] <mensvaga> So, you might even be able to cron up your backups from google drive.
[15:26] <mensvaga> Also, when you decide to put a photo on google drive ,it gives you a chance to review the photos and decide if you really want to keep them.
[15:26] <mensvaga> Once they're on your ubuntu system, they're "Yours" as in, you don't have to put up with anybody ELSE's crap.
[15:26] <goblin> TJ-, have you been successful in installing both?
[15:26] <TJ-> goblin: yes
[15:26] <TJ-> goblin: you'll see from that log the exact commands and responses
[15:28] <goblin> thanks, I'll try it
[16:17] <Delver_Of_Secret> Hey. I have a laptop with Ubuntu 16. The laptop's screen however is cracked, causing 10cm on the left edge to be unusable. Is there a way to trick it into using only the part that works? (making the desktop narrower and starting after the 10cm broken part?)
[16:19] <TomyWork> 16.04 or 16.10?
[16:19] <TomyWork> and the answer is: probably :)
[16:19] <Delver_Of_Secret> 16.04
[16:19] <TomyWork> there's probably a way to tell the x server not to use that part of the screen
[16:20] <TomyWork> but i have no idea how to begin figuring that out :)
[16:20] <TomyWork> however, there are all kinds of so-called tiling window managers
[16:21] <TomyWork> which, instead of giving you windows, they give you tiles
[16:21] <xrandr> Why not just get the screen fixed?
[16:21] <TomyWork> you could have one tile for the crack and block it with something random :)
[16:22] <Delver_Of_Secret> They told me they cant fix the screen @xrandr
[16:22] <Delver_Of_Secret> And I'll take a look at the tiling window managers
[16:22] <xrandr> Delver_Of_Secret: who told you they couldn't fix the screen?
[16:22] <TomyWork> xrandr ist probably the solution btw (pun intended, but no joke)
[16:23] <xrandr> TomyWork: :)
[16:23] <xrandr> Delver_Of_Secret: if the manufacturer won't do it, there are plenty of 3rd party places that will
[16:23] <Delver_Of_Secret> I'm tried messing with xrandr but it either resulted in no change or a stretched out screen
[16:23] <xrandr> I've got one right around the corner from where I work
[16:24] <leftyfb> Delver_Of_Secret: LCD screens are usually pretty affordable on amazon or ebay
[16:25] <xrandr> i'd go with Amazon, not eBay
[16:25] <xrandr> or even newegg
[16:26] <Delver_Of_Secret> That's what the local hardware place told me. It's not so much just the screen, as all the stuff that's behind it that's messed up
[16:27] <xrandr> TomyWork: i am the solution to everything :)
[16:27] <Delver_Of_Secret> the glass itself is fine
[16:27] <xrandr> Delver_Of_Secret: well, have you tried the manufacturer?
[16:27] <xrandr> otherwise, maybe it's time for a new laptop
[16:28] <xrandr> reason i say this is because if some of the components failed, it's only a matter of time before more start to fail
[16:28] <Delver_Of_Secret> well they failed because I fell on it, but yeah :X
[16:28] <SimonNL> Xrandr is used to set the size, orientation and/or reflection of the outputs for a screen. It can also set the screen size.
[16:28]  * xrandr puffs out his chest
[16:29] <xrandr> Delver_Of_Secret: well, that'll do it
[16:29] <xrandr> if the device is still under warranty, send it to the manufacturer
[16:29] <TomyWork> good luck with your screen, i'm off home :)
[16:30] <venzen> anyone aware of a PPA for latest kernel version for older releases? I'm running 16.04 on recent 7th gen AMD hardware. Kernel 4.5 drivers don't work with many devices such as touchpad, wifi and GPU - it would be useful to have an updating kernel repo rahther than manually downloading & installing every new kernel
[16:30] <xrandr> brb
[16:31] <nacc> venzen: 4.5 isn't any ubuntu kernel
[16:31] <nacc> !hwe | venzen
[16:31] <nacc> venzen: and 4.10 is available via hwe
[16:31] <venzen> nacc: please elaborate - what is hwee?
[16:31] <venzen> hwe
[16:32] <nacc> venzen: read the faq the bot just sent you.
[16:32] <tgm4883> venzen: you literally have a link right to it
[16:32] <Delver_Of_Secret> no it's well beyond warranty, and I was told repairs would cost as much as a new laptop, which is probably what i'll have to do. It's just a shame because this one is still very much doing its job other than the annoyance of the screen
[16:33] <venzen> thank you, nacc, tgm4883
[16:33] <nacc> venzen: yw
[16:35] <zeeblefritz> Which one of you is a wireless card pro? I have a broadcom 43xx chip in an
[16:35] <zeeblefritz> Asus pce-ac66 card that won't connect to networks
[16:35] <zeeblefritz> card installed and sees nearby nets but won't connect
[16:36] <leftyfb> zeeblefritz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:41] <zeeblefritz> how do I know what version of debian to use for the non-free sources
[16:41] <dl8bh> is there a list of udebs needed for pxebooting an ubuntu-installer?
[16:42] <dl8bh> I am just trying to build a partly mirror with aptly, but need a list of needed udebs for this
[16:42] <dl8bh> or some meta-package to include
[16:48] <Cyclohexane> Is php 5.5.9 the latest in the repo? https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5
[16:51] <BudgetSlug> Good afternoon peeps. Does anyone know how to kill a network connection after VPN (openVPN) disconnects or loses connectivity? This is for Ubuntu 16.04 (Desktop).
[17:00] <lance7> Hello!
[17:00] <BudgetSlug> Hello.
[17:02] <nacc> Cyclohexane: on 14.04, yes
[17:03] <nacc> Cyclohexane: but note, that's the upstream base version, does not tell you what patches have been applied to it
[17:03] <lance7> I'm trying to create a FreeDOS partition to load a BIOS update on (since they only offer it in windows executible) so I can burn it to a CD and boot from it. The BIOS update is larger than the default partition size. Is there a way to set the size of the partition on Mount, or how might I resize it so that I can move the BIOS update onto it?
[17:05] <nacc> lance7: you mean you setup a FreeDOS partition already but the BIOS update is too large for it? How is this an Ubuntu support question?
[17:06] <morcego48> good question
[17:09] <lance7> nacc: I'm using this guide https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789 to update my BIOS. They suggest using Partition Resizer to resize the partition to make it large enough for the update. Partition Resizer is a .exe. Should I just use Wine to run the .exe file, or would that cause troubles?
[17:10] <nacc> lance7: i see zero references to 'partition resizer' on that page.
[17:10] <nacc> lance7: is it on a particular page of the thread?
[17:11] <lance7> nacc: It's under the Size Constraints section of Tips & Warnings
[17:11] <lance7> The links reference Partition Resizer to resize the partitions
[17:12] <nacc> lance7: uh, you definitely don't need a third party windows tool just to resize partitions. Esp. if you haven't installed anything on it yet.
[17:12] <nacc> lance7: use parted (gparted, if you want a gui)
[17:13] <EriC^^> +1
[17:13] <nacc> lance7: but honestly, i'm not 100% on what you're doing, and it seems like a freedos question, not an ubuntu one
[17:16] <zeeblefritz> okay so I followed the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx which lead me to https://wiki.debian.org/wl for the 4360 followed all the steps for install which I believe was what I mostly did already. Card is recognized, networks are recognized but will not connect to network. Plz Hlp
[17:17] <pavlos> lance7: I wrote an article some time ago (if it helps) ... http://azloco.org/node/207
[17:21] <zeeblefritz> okay. So This is interesting. the card works if I unplug my secondary wireless adapter (usb) any way to make both work at once/
[17:23] <lance7> pavlos: This might actually work. I'll try it!
[17:30] <karthic16> Hello I'm Karthic. I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu. This is my first time, please help.
[17:32] <nacc> !contribute | karthic16
[17:32] <xrandr> karthic16: contribute...how?
[17:33] <karthic16> xrandr: I want to contribute as a programmer.
[17:34] <karthic16> ubottu: Okai. I'll check them out.
[17:34]  * xrandr snorts
[17:55] <geetar> I had a problem with libreoffice base.  The wizard was crashing it.  I removed some files manually.  I may have removed libkdeinit5_libreoffice, but can't remember.  Anyway, no module of libreoffice will start now with the error that the above library is missing.  I can't find and can't figure out how to reinstall the library.  Any ideas?
[17:56] <geetar> I purged libreoffice and then reinstalled with the build-dep option of apt-get.  Despite many libraries installed, I am still getting the same error.
[17:57] <nacc> geetar: build-dep is for building
[17:57] <nacc> geetar: not the right option to fix your issue, afaict
[17:58] <nacc> geetar: what is the actual error message?
[17:59] <geetar> It is on another machine and it wont let me copy it, but...
[17:59] <nacc> !pastebinit | geetar
[18:01] <CashDash123> What is the ppa for ubuntu mate?
[18:01] <geetar> KDEInit could not lauch libreoffice: Could not open library '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_libreoffice'.  Cannot load library /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_libreoffice: (/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_libreoffice.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:03] <nacc> geetar: 16.04?
[18:03] <geetar> nacc: yes
[18:04] <leftyfb> CashDash123: sudo apt install mate-desktop
[18:04] <leftyfb> CashDash123: if you're looking for an unofficial PPA, then you might try #ubuntu-mate
[18:05] <cybertek> hey all, for some reason Vino is not accepting connections or I cant get it to connect and im not sure why, can anyone help?
[18:08] <nacc> geetar: how are you starting libreoffice?
[18:08] <geetar> nacc: menu
[18:09] <nacc> geetar: try from the terminal?
[18:09] <nacc> geetar: i'm reading some old bugs that imply it's buggy integration
[18:09] <nacc> (or was)
[18:10] <geetar> nacc: just "libreoffice" from the terminal?
[18:11] <nacc> geetar: yeah
[18:14] <geetar> nacc: forgive me, but I have to step away for an appointment.  It may be 1+ hours before I get back.  Thank you very much for your time.
[18:14] <nacc> geetar: np
[18:15] <geetar> nacc: BTW, libreoffice resulted in a not currently installed message despite showing up on the menu and "apt-get" saying it is already the newest version.  Puzzling for a later time
[18:15] <geetar> nacc: that is the command line option said not currently installed
[18:17] <nacc> geetar: strange
[18:29] <buggaboosanchez> I was here trying to install eclipse a few days ago and someone referred me to a program that compiled it from source for me ( I don't remember the name of it ).   Well, I didn't realize it at the time ( and I don't recall whether I was given an option or not ) but it got installed to a directory  /home/myusername/opt/  Becuase of the way it was installed, how can I remove the installation and how can I install it to where I wanted it - in /opt  (
[18:29] <buggaboosanchez> not opt in home dir but opt under root ).?
[18:30] <buggaboosanchez> Not sure how to even check for what the name of that program was
[18:33] <buggaboosanchez> I found out the program is called ubuntu make
[18:33] <buggaboosanchez> *ubuntu-make*
[18:33] <buggaboosanchez> How to remove eclipse and install it to the place I need?
[18:34] <xrandr> buggaboosanchez: did you install a .deb package or something?
[18:35] <oerheks> ubuntu-make..
[18:35] <oerheks> !logs
[18:37] <oerheks> buggaboosanchez, this one? https://itsfoss.com/install-latest-eclipse-ubuntu/
[18:39] <buggaboosanchez> xrandr: I didn't want to install an unverified repo to install it so someone refered me to a program called 'ubuntu-make'  and I used that program to install eclipse.  It installs eclipse from source code.  Unfortunately, I dont' recall if there were any options given to select where to install it to ( I may be at fault for where it got installed or I amy not - idk ). At any rate, I really need to get it installed to the proper location /opt under
[18:39] <buggaboosanchez> root not /opt in my home dir ( like it is now ).  I tried using the 'mv' and 'sudo mv' commands but that didn't work ( I'm sure I should be grateful it didn't - since that probably would have borked a lot of stuff ).
[18:40] <Waheedi> I have a question regarding libvirt on ubuntu 16.04
[18:40] <xrandr> buggaboosanchez: how about just symlinking it
[18:41] <Waheedi> after net-destroy net-start all vms lost their ip address leases
[18:41] <buggaboosanchez> xrandr: yes sir that is the article I went off of to get my current install
[18:41] <Waheedi> is there away to manually bind addresses to these vms
[18:41] <buggaboosanchez> xrandr: I though about that, but I just don't want any programs installed to my home dir.
[18:42] <xrandr> buggaboosanchez: and mv -f /home/you/eclipse /opt/eclipse doesn't work?
[18:42] <oerheks> if owned by root, use sudo ?
[18:43] <buggaboosanchez> xrandr: Even if the force flag did work wouldn't it break a lot of stuff ( launcher / etc ) ?
[18:43] <xrandr> you can try it
[18:44] <xrandr> and move it back if it doesn't work
[18:44] <buggaboosanchez> oerheks: /opt (under root is owned by 'myusername' - i chown -ed it)
[18:45] <buggaboosanchez> I just don't get why I couldn't install it using the installer ( like all the normal articles suggest ) but the *-inst file was not present in the download I got from the eclipse site - hence my current sitch.
[18:48] <buggaboosanchez> What is concerning me is idk whether the install performed with ubuntu-make result in eclipse showing up in package management at all. I'll see what dpkg -i | grep eclipse yeilds
[18:48] <leftyfb> it won't
[18:49] <leftyfb> it's not a package at that point. You're installing from source
[18:50] <buggaboosanchez> I meant -l flag but there is nothting listed in dpkg for eclipse ( yet it is installed and working - just in the wrong place )
[18:50] <buggaboosanchez> Bottom line - can't I install from the eclipse installer any longer?
[18:50] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: you did not install from dpkg/deb so it is not a package and will not show up
[18:51] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: sudo apt install eclipse
[18:51] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: I get it but I dont' like that one single bit ( something installed in that way not connected to package management - boo )
[18:51] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: then don't install from source
[18:52] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: `It's an ANCIENT version in the ubuntu official repo
[18:52] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: then install from ppa
[18:52] <leftyfb> or take the source and build your own deb package
[18:52] <leftyfb> those are your choices
[18:53] <buggaboosanchez> I've got more long term reserach projects than I can handle. I need eclipse to use it and I need some help to correct the sitch. I really can't affrod to spend the day trying to figure this out (and probably making it worse anyway)
[18:54] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: sudo apt install eclipse / compile/install from source / install from a PPA / build a deb package yourself from source. Those are you options
[18:55] <buggaboosanchez> But usint hte *-insta isn't? ^ < that question was gone around and not addresed at all >
[18:56] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: that is a question for the developers/maintainers of the eclipse source
[18:56] <buggaboosanchez> its a GHOST TOWN over there
[18:56] <buggaboosanchez> ther eis a zero zero respnse to anyone.
[18:56] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: mailing list? Email? Submit form on their website?
[18:56] <buggaboosanchez> Also I am an ubuntu user
[18:57] <buggaboosanchez> Well I guess using eclipse to get some work done today isn't an option then
[18:57] <buggaboosanchez> not because it can't be done but because it wont
[18:57] <mcphail> buggaboosanchez: Ubuntu doesn't give you support for the latest versions, I'm afraid. If you want the latest, you lose support from the package maintainers
[18:57] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: is there a particular feature that you need that isn't in version 3.8.1-8?
[18:58] <buggaboosanchez> What is the officeial ubuntu source for installing eclipse?
[18:58] <buggaboosanchez> it isn't the handbook I guess bc I was told that ins't supported here
[18:58] <buggaboosanchez> so what is supported ?
[18:58] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: sudo apt install eclipse. That is the official and supported way to install eclipse
[18:58] <mcphail> !info eclipse
[18:58] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: Isn't it good enought that it is my desire to have the latest version of it on my system?
[18:59] <buggaboosanchez> bc that's what I want
[18:59] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: apparently not to you
[18:59] <mcphail> !latest | buggaboosanchez
[18:59] <buggaboosanchez> not 5 yrs ago version
[18:59] <buggaboosanchez> tired
[18:59] <owrservmedia> hi all. can anyone handhold me through a sed regex exercise? basically, i prepped a line of code, and i could probs troubleshoot by trial and error, but think i'll learn more if someone can offer some guidance
[18:59] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: this aggravation is apparently worth "because I want it"
[19:00] <nacc> !alis | owrservmedia: might look for a more appropriate channel
[19:00] <buggaboosanchez> I asked ANYONE not just leftyfb:  what the OFFICIAL source of documentation for ubuntu install eclipse is
[19:00] <buggaboosanchez> The one that IS supported here
[19:00] <buggaboosanchez> .
[19:00] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: the version in the archive
[19:00] <nacc> !info eclipse xenial | buggaboosanchez
[19:00] <buggaboosanchez> documentations dmmit
[19:00] <nacc> !info eclipse | buggaboosanchez: and in the latest release:
[19:00] <owrservmedia> woops, sorry, must be in the wrong channel. will look around
[19:01] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: sudo apt install eclipse <~~~~ install documentation
[19:02] <buggaboosanchez> This: https://help.ubuntu.com Says:  "Official Ubuntu Documentation"  on the landing page^ Is that correct or not?
[19:02] <buggaboosanchez> Official Ubuntu Documentation
[19:03] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[19:06] <buggaboosanchez> This link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/695382/how-to-install-eclipse-using-its-installer   comes up in that 'offical' ubuntu documentation.  It instructs an instaqllation usint the installer.  Now dont' tell me that this chann el is not here to help when the offical documentation does not work.
[19:07] <buggaboosanchez> If peopel here are bound and determined not to help someone in need ( a nearly 10 yr ubuntu user and supporter ) then there is nothing I can do about that.  But I well telll you I am in this mess bc of followint help recievd here or I woulnd't be back
[19:07] <buggaboosanchez> tired
[19:07] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: where is the linnk from help.ubuntu.com to that AU article?
[19:07] <buggaboosanchez> This isn't about installing eclkipse nay more. This kis about being discriminated against ( why? I don't know )
[19:07] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: we only support the packages in Ubuntu, I'm sorry if some documentation you wrote was incorrect.
[19:08] <leftyfb> lol
[19:08] <buggaboosanchez> nacc:    https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=eclipse&sa=Search <-- second entry
[19:08] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: um, that's a search result
[19:08] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: *not* on help.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: AU != help.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <buggaboosanchez> nacc: Thais is ubuntu calling that iste it's 'official documentation'  are yo dissagreeing with ubuntu?
[19:09] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: that is a forum posting from 2 years ago. It is not official documentation
[19:09] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: did you click on "Official" at hte top?
[19:10] <buggaboosanchez> I want someone to tell me why I cna come here, gtet told to use somehting that boks my system then get told to screw off when I return looking for help
[19:10] <buggaboosanchez> help to fix the problemm I was instructed into here
[19:10] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: I'm having a hard time reading what you're writing due to the typos.
[19:10] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: but I'm sorry if you got bad advice in the channel before
[19:10] <buggaboosanchez> Yet no one will point me to the official documentation - I wonder why?
[19:10] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[19:10] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[19:10] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[19:10] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: you have been pointed to it several times?
[19:10] <buggaboosanchez> Then help fix it!
[19:11] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[19:11] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: help fix what?
[19:12] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: the OFFICIAL documentation to install packages in Ubuntu is: sudo apt install <package name>. In your case, the package name is eclipse. Anything beyond that is UNOFFICIAL and is not supported here. If you follow any other advice from forum posts or even others here, that is to your own peril.
[19:12] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: If you would like help undoing what someone told you here, it's pretty easy. rm -rf ~/opt/eclipse. That will remove the compiled version of eclipse. Then you can sudo apt install eclipse
[19:13] <buggaboosanchez> Beware anyone asking fro help here!  ^ they will instruct you into a hole yo can not get out of on  your own then leave yo to yourself with all kinds of bs mumbo jumbo about policy when they don't feel like helping you any longer
[19:14] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: please stop that.
[19:15] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: and the other things that came witht the install - how do I get that out of here?  ( eg: whatever is responsible for making the installation icon show up in the desktop serach )
[19:15] <buggaboosanchez> nacc: I told the truth
[19:15] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: not sure about that to be honest. Maybe before rm'ing, go into your source directory and try sudo make uninstall
[19:16] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: also, read the documentation that came with the source
[19:16] <CRogers> Oh god, that was so much more complicated than it needed to be.
[19:16] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: Thank you ( sincerely )
[19:16] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: or contact the developers/maintainers
[19:16] <ioria> buggaboosanchez, ls /usr/share/applications/ | grep eclipse
[19:16] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: mind you, NONE of this is officially supported
[19:17] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: it's all manual and messy work. But such is the life of staying on the cutting edge "because I want to"
[19:17] <CRogers> Is anyone else having the swap file fail in 17.10?
[19:17] <buggaboosanchez> I come here so I don't have to read the documentation. And I shouldn't have to ( nor should anyone if they don't want to ). As far as I'm concerned if someone needs THIS kind of instruction they should be ablie to get it without a bunch of stress and problem and so radiclaly much offense to them
[19:17] <CRogers> causing a system freeze?
[19:17] <leftyfb> CRogers: you want #ubuntu+1 for support with unreleased versions of ubuntu
[19:17] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: right, so just `sudo apt install eclipse` and don't read anything.
[19:17] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: you chose (whether instructed to do so or not) to do something else.
[19:17] <CRogers> thanks leftyfb
[19:18] <ioria> buggaboosanchez, or ls .local/share/applications/
[19:18] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: Refusal to read documentation is pretty offensive (kind of like your nick). People put a lot of work into documentation so people like you don't fall into problems.
[19:18] <buggaboosanchez> I want to do things by means of chatting with other people ant that isn't gointg to change. If those people refuse to engage me in that then as far as I'm concerned that's rude. Why? Bc I see how you ytreat one another ( ( can see ther rest of all you all conversatpoins you know? )
[19:18] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: you understand everyone here is a volunteer?
[19:19] <buggaboosanchez> leftyfb: All the existing documetnation (official or not) pointst to using the installer
[19:19] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: please show us
[19:20] <buggaboosanchez> That isn't my fault - its what we are all seeing who look for info on how to install eclipse ( but how did I know that if I didn't read anything? )
[19:20] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: because so far, zero official documentation points to the officially supported method of installing package being installing from source
[19:20] <buggaboosanchez> I read several articles before I came the first time and ended up with a source install that pput me in this mess
[19:21] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: you read forum posts
[19:21] <ioria> i doubt that
[19:21] <leftyfb> which is not official documentation
[19:21] <leftyfb> anyone can post to a forum with anything that looks like instructions
[19:22] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: https://www.ubuntu.com/support/plans-and-pricing#ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop
[19:22] <leftyfb> ^^^ that is official(backed by trained employees of Canonical) support. We are community(volunteer) support
[19:23] <klf> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/firefox
[19:24] <nacc> klf: did you mean to paste that link?
[19:24] <klf> which repo can I find 52.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 ?
[19:24] <nacc> klf: why would you want to run an old firefox?
[19:27] <buggaboosanchez> I don't care any longer.  If people can't treat me with a minimal level of respect ( the was I see they do with one another ) then why should I.  Someone doesn't like my nick so they decide to prejudice me?  Pass judgement on me before even talkng to me? My response is exactly that - a response to a primarey (first cause) event.  (1) I, and anyone else, should be permitted to choose nay nick they please without fearing they would be treated so
[19:27] <buggaboosanchez> shamefully. (2) Punnishing someone because of their nick is childish and out of line. (3) If there is not aveneu for recourese in a situation like this then I think the community out to be concerned about that ( or are we all supposed to live in fear of being arbitrarily punished for something they didn't do wrong? )
[19:28] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: I think you are getting too bogged down in that. One user said something about your nick, and that was it.
[19:28] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: i believe there are ways to file complaints, if you have them
[19:28] <nacc> buggaboosanchez: no one is punishing you, as far as I can tell
[19:29] <buggaboosanchez> nacc: Well I for one would love to find out
[19:29] <buggaboosanchez> This isn't the first time with this
[19:32] <klf> If I am not mistaken, while there many releases in the list of Releases in Ubuntu, not all of them are available through the repo
[19:32] <nacc> klf: what does that have to do with anything?
[19:33] <ioria> klf, maybe if you tell us what you need, we might help
[19:34] <klf> ioria, I did.  <klf> which repo can I find 52.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 ?
[19:34] <ioria> klf, that ver it's no more in the repos
[19:35] <nacc> klf: and you ignored my question. Why do you want an old, unsupported, insecure Firefox?
[19:35] <klf> nacc, yes I did.
[19:35] <klf> ioria, "no more' meaning they once did exist in the repo?
[19:35] <ioria> sure
[19:35] <nacc> klf: ... you made some random comment about ubuntu releases
[19:36] <nacc> klf: not at all addressing my question about *firefox*
[19:36] <ioria> klf, rmadison firefox | grep 52
[19:36] <klf> nacc, "<klf> which repo can I find 52.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 ?"  <- not a comment.
[19:37] <leftyfb> klf: why do you want Firefox version 52?
[19:37] <nacc> klf: ok, you're being ridiculous, IMO. You asked for an old unsupported pacakge. I asked why. You responded with an unrelated comment about ubuntu releases.
[19:39] <brainwash> klf: you want firefox 52 ESR, and not the regular 52 release
[19:39] <klf> hey brainwash.
[19:40] <nacc> brainwash: our point (ioria and myself) is that there is a more recent firefox for 16.04 already (55.0.2)
[19:40] <brainwash> well, I know the backstory
[19:40] <klf> brainwash, I'll bring our discussion back to where it started.  tty there.
[19:41] <klf> it's not worth our time.
[19:41] <klf> ioria, thanks for your answer though.
[19:42] <ioria> no problem
[19:43] <transhuman> hi, got the following brain dump (multiple times) on same machine, think its a hardware problem but not sure anyone able to tell me what I should be looking for in the dump? http://paste.debian.net/986693/ thanks in advance
[19:45] <ioria> transhuman, nvidia problem ?
[19:45] <transhuman> ioria, ok what part gives that away?
[19:45] <ioria> transhuman, idk, ... nouveau 0000:05:00.0: DRM: base-0: timeout
[19:46] <transhuman> damn its a new video card less than a year old
[19:46] <ioria> 970 gtx ?
[19:46] <transhuman> do you think installing the nvidia drivers would fix it? yes its a 970
[19:47] <transhuman> by the way thanks for replying!
[19:47] <ioria> transhuman, yeah, blacklistist nouveau i guess
[19:48] <transhuman> ok thanks
[19:48] <Jaygrind> hello
[19:48] <ioria> transhuman, good luck mate
[19:49] <transhuman> thanks very much ioria
[19:50] <oerheks> klf, firefox ESR is available in a ppa, https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr >>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/894871/how-to-install-firefox-52-esr-on-16-04
[19:52] <buggaboosanchez> Here is the answer I got about why the installer couldn't be found - if you are a newb like me this is the sort of mistake / oversight that could easiliy happen :  https://pastebin.com/rJNkbsMh
[19:53] <buggaboosanchez> This may also be of interest :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlCrrn8Cw58
[19:53] <Ben64> buggaboosanchez: 15.04 ?
[19:53] <CashDash123> What is the link for links download? I want to compile it manually.
[19:54] <CashDash123> I want to install it I should say
[19:54] <Ben64> CashDash123: http://links.twibright.com/download/links-2.14.tar.gz ??
[19:54] <CashDash123> Thank you
[19:55] <Ben64> thats the source code, you can find it in the ubuntu repositories though in binary form
[19:55] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/links2
[19:55] <oerheks> easy to find
[19:55] <leftyfb> buggaboosanchez: mind you, the version of ubuntu you're running is unsupported.
[19:56] <oerheks> i think that is a typ0 15.04 > 16.04 ?
[19:56] <CashDash123> How do you know?
[19:57] <CashDash123> What version I'm running
[19:57] <Ben64> CashDash123: that wasn't for you
[19:57] <oerheks> CashDash123, that was related to buggaboo, the links2 is your url
[19:59] <CashDash123> Because I'm probably going to be chastised for messing with 10.10 maverick
[20:00] <Ben64> indeed. you need to install something supported
[20:00] <oerheks> oh, offtopic here, no support.
[20:00] <oerheks> try ##linux, they love that.. :-D
[20:02] <CashDash123> Thanks
[20:03] <Jaygrind> what this is all about :|
[20:04] <leftyfb> Jaygrind: http://ubuntu.com
[20:05] <infinitux> hello. where are the default configuration settings for webcams stored? i'd like to set the resolution lower so it performs better in facebook video conferencing and live broadcasting.
[20:05] <Jaygrind> ahhh...ok
[20:05] <CashDash123> #linux
[20:06] <TJ-> infinitux: they're not, the drivers or applications generally pick what they consider the 'best' mode
[20:08] <infinitux> interesting.
[20:09] <infinitux> cheese lets me choose a resolution in preferences
[20:09] <infinitux> i need to change it in facebook with whatever browser. i wonder how
[20:21] <jeffree> running ubuntu 17.04. In Software & Updates I have set 'Automatically check for update = Daily' 'When there are security update = download and install automatically' 'When there are other updates = Display immediately' - however, security updates are displayed to me to choose to install. Why?
[20:46] <qswz> I bought a new laptop, as often it comes with windows, how would I save all the disk (about 25Go 'empty') to only put ubuntu later, but be able to restore the original windows?
[20:46] <qswz> I don't want dual boot
[20:49] <nacc> qswz: I know nothing about windows, but why not just leave it in a dualboot?
[20:49] <nacc> qswz: otherwise, you'd need to ask windows what you need to save so you can restore it, it's not really an ubuntu question
[20:49] <qswz> I know you can set dualboot to 0s, so it's immediate
[20:49] <nacc> qswz: right, that seems easier
[20:50] <qswz> ok thanks, just out of curiosty what you'd use to backup a whole disk? closezilla?
[20:50] <qswz> clonezilla*
[20:51] <TJ-> qswz: I'd generally shrink the NTFS file-system from within Windows to it's minimum using diskmanager, then use the new, smaller, size to shrink the partition containing that NTFS file-system (using Linux tools), and then I could allocate the new free space to install Linux.
[20:51] <TJ-> qswz: later, if I want to restore windows I'd simply delete the Linux partition(s) and expand the Windows partition to use it's original space, then in Windows expand the NTFS file-system to use the rest of the partition
[20:52] <qswz> ok
[20:52] <nacc> TJ-: good suggestion!
[20:53] <TJ-> qswz: typically a fresh Windows install will shrink down to around (only!) 30GiB
[21:11] <xrandr> how often, in general, does linux clean out the stuff in /tmp?
[21:11] <xrandr> is it every reboot?
[21:11] <TJ-> xrandr: on reboot usually
[21:12] <xrandr> ok
[21:49] <neoncontrails> Are there any grep alternatives that work with capturing groups?
[21:54] <flush_> hi
[21:54] <flush_> how do i see my monitor refresh rate ?
[21:57] <oerheks> flush_, open terminal: xrandr  # would show current rate
[21:58] <oerheks> maybe your monitor menu can show it too
[21:59] <flush_> ok lemme see
[22:00] <flush_> how do i change it ?
[22:03] <oerheks> one can set it default in xorg conf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_resolution_changes_in_xorg.conf
[22:05] <flush_> thank you
[22:05] <flush_> i dont have xorg.conf file
[22:05] <flush_> i think that amd video card removed it
[22:05] <flush_> what a pice of shit
[22:06] <oerheks> correct, standard not needed, but to override you can create one ( with sudo)
[22:06] <oerheks> also for fancy input devices etc
[22:08] <flush_> why did it removed my xorg conf file
[22:08] <flush_> whats the point
[22:09] <oerheks> dunno
[22:09] <oerheks> maybe it is there, but made without sudo rights
[22:10] <Bashing-om> flush_: DKMS - where the kernel now does the discovery and setting of hardware . dynamic kernel mode setting .
[22:13] <flush_> interesting
[22:14] <Bashing-om> fl
[22:15] <Bashing-om> flush_: Now if the display device does not give out or gives bad EDID ,, then yeah . got to help the kernel out with a config file .
[22:16] <oerheks> modes above 60 hrz might need a good hdmi cable or better displayport
[22:19] <flush_> i see
[22:19] <flush_> i have an old acer display
[22:19] <flush_> with vga cable
[22:20] <flush_> so it is autodetect like if it boots at that refresh rate well thats what it can give thats it i guess
[22:23] <Bashing-om> flush_: Well, there are means to know the EDID info, and compare to manufactures specs .
[22:25] <gartral> hey all, I have a major issue, I'm on Ubuntu Studio 17.04 and the machine crashed last night, dysplay froze up so I reboot and now when lightdm starts, something fails and it promtly crashes only to ttry and start again... i'm on a VT now after finally getting lightdm to stop it's insane dance but I can't figure out why it's failing like this, none of logs register a problem
[22:27] <gartral> Bashing-om: that depends heavily on the display manufactuer though, many smaller companies don't report EDID data correctly, or they use special info that isn't documented (looking at you, apple...)
[22:34] <Bashing-om> gartral: Display driver issue in your case ? Can you boot a recovery console from grub ?
[22:38] <gartral> Bashing-om: I can, but the only issues I'm seeing online has to deal with nvidia/ati driver issues, nothing about intel
[22:40] <NarcosS3sucked> Whats best practice for system backups (17.04)
[22:40] <oerheks> standard dejadub/backup
[22:41] <gartral> NarcosS3sucked: same as any other system, whatever you're comfortable with, I personally use dejadup to a large external hdd once a day
[22:42] <oerheks> rsync/grsync for just your precious files..
[22:42] <oerheks> grsync=gui for rsync
[22:44] <NarcosS3sucked> Thanks! I guess dejadup it is!
[22:45] <NarcosS3sucked> I plan on reinstalling a lot while I learn, will this do installed programs?
[22:46] <Bashing-om> gartral: Intel in not in my experience range . but any hints in the log files /var/log/Xorg.0.log or .xsession-errors in your /home ?
[22:46] <kk4ewt> NarcosS3sucked, that made no sense
[22:46] <gartral> NarcosS3sucked: No. you'll have to generate a list of things you installed
[22:46] <NarcosS3sucked> While I learn Linux, I plan on screwing up.
[22:47] <NarcosS3sucked> Thanks *thumbs up emoji*
[22:47] <kk4ewt> NarcosS3sucked,  if you dont have to install at least 3 times you are not learning
[22:48] <NarcosS3sucked> I must be going to a masters...
[22:49] <kk4ewt> thats per release
[22:50] <NarcosS3sucked> and apt list --installed to generate the list?
[22:51] <gartral> Bashing-om: I can't directly see anything or if the ordinary.. .xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/25568722 Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/25568731
[22:51] <gartral> out of*
[22:53] <Bashing-om> gartral: reading . what is the boot parameter " rootflags=subvol=@ " ?
[22:53] <nacc> Bashing-om: looks like btrfs stuff
[22:54] <gartral> Bashing-om: that's probably from my btrfs partition
[22:54] <gartral> nacc has it spot on
[22:56] <Bashing-om> gartral: Not even trying to load a Intel driver . What reports ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[22:56] <coldasfucc> Hi, I'm having trouble setting a bluetooth audio device as the audio output. I can pair fine.
[22:57] <gartral> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25568756
[23:00] <Bashing-om> gartral: Humm .. i915 driver. so why does not Xorg see it ? Hummm .
[23:02] <gartral> Bashing-om: your guess is as good as mine
[23:03] <Bashing-om> gartral: Well, O am all for the learning process ! What shows '  dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel ' ?
[23:04] <jeffree> running ubuntu 17.04. In Software & Updates I have set 'Automatically check for update = Daily' 'When there are security update = download and install automatically' 'When there are other updates = Display immediately' - however, security updates are displayed to me to choose to install. Why?
[23:05] <nacc> jeffree: it isn't running constantly (the background process)
[23:05] <nacc> jeffree: you asked it to check daily, so it checks once a day (i think) and then ify ou happen to manually do an update and something to published, you'd see it then
[23:08] <jeffree> nacc: the problem is that it is presenting me with a window to choose to install security updates when I have specified to install them automatically
[23:08] <nacc> jeffree: *when* the check occurs.
[23:08] <jeffree> I don't follow
[23:08] <nacc> jeffree: let's say the background process that checks daily ran at 3am
[23:08] <nacc> jeffree: it installed 4 packages
[23:08] <nacc> jeffree: all security fixes, by your config
[23:08] <nacc> jeffree: let's say 200 security fixes go out at 4am
[23:09] <gartral> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25568800
[23:09] <nacc> jeffree: your background process won't see them until tomorrow at 3am
[23:09] <nacc> jeffree: but if you manually use a package manager, they will show up
[23:09] <gartral> Bashing-om: looks borked
[23:09] <jeffree> nacc: this is automated, not me opening a package manager manually
[23:10] <nacc> jeffree: what is automated?
[23:11] <jeffree> nacc: the "Software Updater" window automatically pops up and shows that there are security updates available
[23:12] <Bashing-om> gartral: Well, in later releases .. ot is recommnded to do away with that driver anyway : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604/comments/261 .
[23:12] <nacc> jeffree: hrm, I'm not sure then
[23:14] <infinitux> hello
[23:14] <infinitux> anybody know how i can lower the webcam resolution for browsers like firefox or chrome so that it will perform better on facebook live?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> gartral: Away for a spell . I will retun in a bit and pick back up here .
[23:17] <coldasfucc> Someone PM'ed me, I restarted, lost the name. Please PM me again :p
[23:18] <gartral> Bashing-om: ok, I can't really read that link
[23:26] <linuxlove> hey guys
[23:27] <linuxlove> who has experience with openconnect ?
[23:28] <coldasfucc> problem solved, nvm
[23:29] <linuxlove> Failed to read from SSL socket: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.
[23:29] <linuxlove> Error fetching HTTPS response
[23:29] <linuxlove> Failed to obtain WebVPN cookie
[23:29] <linuxlove> i get this
[23:37] <Loshki> linuxlove: a known bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openconnect/+bug/1225276
[23:42] <linuxlove> Loshki, no result
[23:42] <linuxlove> my version is 7
[23:58] <Loshki> linuxlove: sorry, no idea. I suggest you start here: http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html