=== jemand is now known as Jemand [05:42] hi all. i'm having trouble with a thinkpad t460s, docks and multi-monitor [05:42] when I boot up my machine and stick it to the dock, everything works nice, getting picture on both of the docked monitors [05:43] however, if I then move the machine to other dock with different display configuration, it seems that the displayport topology isn't probed again, but the old one is used [05:44] resulting in one monitor (which has the same DP port) having picture while the other has not. and then there's picture on the non-connected monitor, by the looks of xrandr and KDE system settings [05:45] is there a way to force X11 (or whoever is responsible for this DP probing) to reprobe all the display outputs without restarting the X11 server? [05:45] it's with the intel gpu: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sky Lake Integrated Graphics (rev 07) [05:47] there is no difference whether I suspend the machine while docked and only wake up after re-docking, or if I undock, use in laptop mode and then re-dock [05:52] Maakuth: which version of kubuntu are you using? [05:54] it's the latest LTS with latest patches [05:55] I added ubuntu-x-swat-ubuntu-updates and kubuntu-ppa-ubuntu-backports ppa's to see if newer versions helped, but no [05:56] Maakuth: Ah, that was going to be my suggestion, as default 16.04 has issues with multimonitor [05:56] due to both plasma and qt bugs [05:56] I am running 16.04 + backports myself, and... it's not perfect [05:56] yeah. KDE works quite a bit better after installing those packages, but this issue remains [05:57] I dont know if reloading plasmashell would trigger a rescan [05:57] "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell" [05:58] it doesn't unfortunately. I do that almost always after re-docking, as plasmashell tends to crash [05:59] I've got this gut feeling that this is responsibility of some lower level X11 component, as xrandr also displays outdated display configuration after re-docking [06:00] this is my working machine, so I wouldn't like to update to some other version just for fun [06:00] or just for trying it out I mean [06:01] Possibly you could liveboot 17.04 or 17.10 tho [06:01] being that no binary blobs are involved, it should work as expected ootb [06:01] that is true. however, these docks are 100km apart [06:02] so I have to take care not to crack out a usb connector with the protruding usb stick [06:02] 100km is a bit far [06:02] a bit longer commute :) [06:03] I mean it's far in the context of troubleshooting :D [06:04] yes. it's not impossible to do, just have to be careful. but that is why I haven't done it yet [06:05] the productivity hit of shutting down and starting again everyday is surprisingly small though. the browser and the editor remember their tabs, just have to restart some ruby interpreters :) [06:15] Maakuth: yeah I personally never use suspend et al [06:17] just keep it running? [06:17] or shut down [06:29] Maakuth: shut down [06:29] 90% of my work is in a browser so [06:30] yeah [06:33] the other 10 in a terminal :p [06:33] pretty much [07:45] Hello all, Hope all is well today. I just want to know what are the system requirements if you would like to install KUBUNTU on a virtual environment? [07:47] mykl: Minimal or recommended? [07:48] recommended [07:48] It's nice if your hypervisor allows for 3D accel [07:48] i am creating a virtual kubuntu now using vmware version 10 [07:49] It's all down to what you'll use the system for I suppose, but 4GB ram and 2vCPU should be plenty for everyday use [07:49] oh 4GB Ram? alright then. and for the recommended disk storage? [07:49] Well you could perhaps go with lower RAM, but open some browser tabs and apps... and you'll be swapping [07:50] mykl: That's impossible to say, it all depends how many programs and user data you intend to store [07:50] I am going to lower it down from 4GB to 2GB [07:50] so far i will use it for my python lessons and testing [07:51] i am thinking if 100GB will be plenty for a VA [07:51] lol [07:51] I was going to suggest starting with 20GB [07:51] Even that is overkill if you dont have much userdata [07:51] ah alright.. lol [07:51] It's easy enough to grow the VMDK and then grow the filesystem anyhow [07:52] i'll do that in that case. so is it possible to increase the drive space without affecting the installation right? [07:52] i mean the OS itself [07:52] Yes [07:53] Shut down VM, grow disk, boot it up again, run resize2fs [07:53] Assuming you do an install with a single / on ext4 [07:53] cool no worries. thank you so much for the help. apologies for making some noises here ahaha [07:53] ah yeah [07:53] If you add LVM or split partitions etc... there's more complexity [07:53] ill save those tips [07:54] so just stick with the default partitions from the wizard then? [07:54] rather than doing manual partition [07:58] Yes unless you have specific needs [07:58] And if you do, then you'd already know :) [08:07] cool no worries [08:07] thanks again @hateball [09:40] hi, i would like to install plasma 5.9 in my kubuntu 16.04 LTS. what should I do? [11:24] Hi all [11:33] hi bro === dv__ is now known as dv_ === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === karab666 is now known as karab44 [15:27] Good Day Everyone! === kyriakos_ is now known as dude === dude is now known as jus33cy [17:21] Settings like taskbar position, widgets and backgrounds do not save. No restart or shutdown option. What do, what do? === tuomas is now known as oijoi === tuomas is now known as oijoi