[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic artful
[06:58] <derphili1> Can i force /etc/resolv.conf to be filled by the actual information? I am running 17.10 and set up my network using netplan
[07:54] <brainwash> derphili1: what prevents you from doing it?
[10:47] <derphili1> brainwash: well isnt this actually overwritten by services upon reboot?
[13:50] <d1rewolf> all, I upgraded yesterday from 17.04 to 17.10. I'm successfully running wayland+gnome on three external monitors (plugged into laptop). However, "gnome-control-center display" won't allow me to drag my monitors to re-order them...they're firmly stuck. any ideas how to fix, or...
[13:50] <d1rewolf> to troubleshoot? I'd love to file a bug, but not sure where to begin to determine where the blame lays
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> d1rewolf: #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 issues please
[13:52] <d1rewolf> lotuspsychje: isn't this....#ubuntu+1? 
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> d1rewolf: yes mate
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> oops my bad
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> d1rewolf: its not recommended to update yet to 17.10
[13:53] <d1rewolf> lotuspsychje: yes, I'm finding that out the hard way ;-/
[13:54] <d1rewolf> I'm second guessing my decision...may do a manual re-install of 17.04. I'm running on an encrypted partition though, so I'm not certain how difficult that will be
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> d1rewolf: final comes out in october
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> d1rewolf: that means devs stil working on it right now
[13:55] <d1rewolf> lotuspsychje: right. yep. in the past, i've had decent luck with daily builds, but not this time
[13:56] <d1rewolf> off to find docs on how to install with an existing encrypted partition ;-)
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt
[13:57] <d1rewolf> lotuspsychje: yeah, I'm not talking about ecryptfs. My entire partition/disk in encrypted...I get prompted on boot
[13:57] <d1rewolf> I believe this is dm_crypt at action
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> kk
[13:58] <d1rewolf> is there a way to downgrade to 17.04 without a full system re-install?
[13:59] <gonyere> d1rewolf - no
[13:59] <d1rewolf> gonyere: ok, thanks. do you happen to know if the 17.04 installer recognizes existing encrypted partitions and offers to install to them?
[13:59] <oerheks> gonyere +1
[14:00] <d1rewolf> not encrypted private directories...whole existing dm_crypt-encrypted disks
[14:01] <gonyere> i'm not sure, as I've never encrypted my entire drive, in part due to the issues so many have, but I would suspect so
[14:02] <gonyere> d1rewolf - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[14:05] <gonyere> d1rewolf - or, perhaps more relevant as your partition is already created and encyrypted: http://linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/28/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-on-encrypted-mbr-partitions/
[14:06] <oerheks> d1rewolf, i think you need to boot into live mode first, unlock it
[14:06] <oerheks> faster would be a reinstall, fresh
[14:09] <d1rewolf> oerheks: ah, k. Thanks. I'll give that a shot. Thanks to you gonyere as well.
[16:33] <Aliv3> hi i'd like to test ubuntu+1
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> Aliv3: check daily url in the topic for downloading iso
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> Aliv3: just keep in mind its still in developent right now, final release is october
[16:36] <Aliv3>  also note im using fairly modern hardware (7th gen) and like to compile things :p
[16:36] <Aliv3> im downloading the daily build now
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> great Aliv3 tnx for help testing
[16:38] <Aliv3> np, im a good tester  :) i'll find all da bugz
[16:38] <Aliv3> is there source i can have to build?
[16:39] <Aliv3> like for ubuntu, it's been a while tbh i was a skiddy last time i used ubuntu 
[16:39] <nacc> Aliv3: source of what?
[16:39] <Aliv3> like to build the distro ...
[16:39] <nacc> Aliv3: no, you don't do that.
[16:39] <nacc> it's nonsense
[16:39] <Aliv3> :(
[16:39] <Aliv3> sorry i'm used to gentoo/LFS
[16:39] <nacc> Aliv3: right, use gentoo if you want to build everything
[16:40] <Aliv3> if you can't build it where do the images come from :o
[16:41] <nacc> Aliv3: you could build everything yourself, but that's not really worth anyone's time
[16:41] <nacc> Aliv3: if you want that experience, go use gentoo
[16:42] <Aliv3> how is it not worth anyones time?
[16:42] <Aliv3> also it's not really about that, it's about pulling it all so i can have a total understanding of the infastructure and components, dependencies, etc. everything going on
[16:43] <Aliv3> that way when i ineveitably break something i can immediately fix it and push upstream :)
[16:43] <nacc> you don't have permission to push anything anywhere, afaict
[16:43] <nacc> unless you mean upstream upstream and github issues?
[16:44] <nacc> Aliv3: 1) why is it not worht your time? in the time you just spent arguing this, you could have booted an image and tested it.
[16:44] <Aliv3> upstream upstream & github issues yes. like for example all the way to gnu make or wayland yanno
[16:44] <nacc> Aliv3: 2) "total understanding" makes little sense here, you "completely" understand Gentoo?
[16:45] <Aliv3> nacc, gentoo no, lfs yes if i were to go back to gentoo i could do it, and i dont intend on booting until i get home from uni which is in 1 hour
[16:45] <Aliv3> for example when i work on atom editor i pull atom, electron, node js, v8, and ninja
[16:45] <nacc> yes, that's one application.
[16:45] <nacc> Aliv3: i don't have time to argue this anymore
[16:46] <Aliv3> okay sorry to hinder your workflow i'll be back later
[21:41] <tesko> not having much success there with your host