[17:45] I am trying to build an upstart job that executes when other services are started, for the purpose of centrally reporting and monitoring services [17:46] this is what I can up with, based on the cookbook [17:46] `start on ( started or stopped ) and ( JOB=!"cerberus" and INSTANCE=!"cerberus*")` [17:46] so it notices all starts or stops that are not itself basically [17:46] but weirdly, it actually doesn't, and stopping and starting stuff isn't working [18:33] I think I got it working with: `start on started JOB!="cerberus*" JOB!="startpar-bridge" INSTANCE!="cerberus*"` [18:33] and another one that has `start on stopped JOB!="cerberus*" JOB!="startpar-bridge" INSTANCE!="cerberus*"`