 Yeah, something that has been implemented a long time ago and shipped in this state... No idea what it's supposed to be doing :D
 just disable the lunar calendar again, then everything is fine
 @neothethird, yeah, that's what I did
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 We're looking to release OTA-2 next saturday. Help us test to make sure everything is smooth sailing: https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/road-to-ota-2-75
 @neothethird, I would help but I don't own any of the supported devices. Sorry😢
 @jackmi95, thanks, hope we'll get more supported devices soon. Thanks for sticking around anyways 👍
 @UniversalSuperBox, Ugh pin with notify
 @jackmi95, Same.
 @jcjordyn120, For not having a supported device, this.
 i have a deep thought by Wayne Out There: … Have you ever noticed how you need Dekko to do anything in Ubuntu Touch? … But it's not pre-installed? … That's weird. … That's your deep thought by Wayne Out There
 ok.  Word on the street (just leaked out) is that... … ready for it??? … Ready for it?? … All you old skool hardware people... … Ready for it?
 N4 is SUPPORTED!!!!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kG1V5XYC/file_639.mp4
 But I don't know how to get it.  But I'll figure it out
 is the channel going to work? … will everything die?
 I"m sooo excited!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/620Tt66T/file_640.mp4
 who invited you to the party, Joe In Here?
 do you have N4???
 No N4, No party 4u!
 I'm always in here. And yes.
 oh!
 we'll let's get this party STarrrrrrted!
 every party person in the house with an N4 say WOOT WOOOT!
 maybe i wasn't loud enough
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/n06nStU9/file_641.mp4
 oh!! we're in western time zone. that's it.  they'll party when we're sleeping
 wait. this says 'no channel called stable' … sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=mako \ … —channel=15.04/devel —bootstrap
 long time no...flash
 I think I maybe did it with magic device tool
 frashing
 oh.... well it's workign with that terminal thing
 the green robot is on the surgery table
 soon to reimerge as Yumi! maybe...
 no pressure guys but if this kills my business my family will starv
 oh oh. flashing orange dots. i think this is old... :(
 helpdesk? helpdesk?
 haha
 crrrrrap
 Noob question... If I want to modify a kernel, can I just add different flags to the defconfig or do I have to "make menuconfig"
 Guys I'm getting a final error : … ```make: *** No rule to make target 'libqmi', needed by '/home/aki237/phablet/out/target/product/ham/obj/EXECUTABLES/wpa_supplicant_intermediates/config.o'.  Stop.```
 I have a … ```libqmi.so``` … in the vendor directories of my device … ```ham```
 i think mine is starting to work ! wooot
 why does UBports default to google search engine?
 this is the first bug I encountered
 cell pone call = success
 @wayneoutthere try to play a song or start music player....
 Is this the porting channel?
 ok stand by
 not really it's the 'everything channel'
 we're discussing what channel is for what... we are 'the' ubports group here
 @Ern_st, crash.
 @wayneoutthere, This is the remaining bug on the Nexus 4 : https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues?q=mako+label%3A%22device%3A+mako%22
 @Ern_st, cool.  did a cell call, sms, now going to for telegram and dekko ;)
 except these bugs, the nexus 4 works fine. really enjoy it
 had a bit of crash on video camera
 camea won't restart, haha
 still cameara was fine but then I ... is this the right spot to explain bugs?  i guess i should go to the link above
 @Ern_st, i wonder if i'm on the wrong channel.
 i flashed from the one on the main ubports page
 https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
 i'll probably wait to do much utnil someone confirms i flashed from the right channel.  I did this: … sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=mako \
 yes you should be in stable
 @aki237, Anyone have ever encountered this ever while porting?
 so this is correct: … sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=mako \ … —channel=15.04/devel —bootstrap
 this one is the devel channel
 that's the one on ubports page. i tink it's not updated.
 the bugs listed above are on both channel so far
 oh no problem but my video camera doesn't work on this one
 so i want to make sure I'm on the right channel before I strt reporting bugs
 the nexus 4 updates are the same than other legacy update
 if it's not your daily phone, go for the devel ^^
 it is my daily phone haha
 but i'm not afraid to have a bad day for a good cause
 but i would like phone/sms/email/cam to work and they seem to
 in dev
 do you know how to change the code above so i get stable?
 sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=mako \ … —channel=15.04/[  something ] —bootstrap
 usually it's "stable" in the something, but maybe there isn't anything stable
 15.04/stable
 cool
 thanks team
 https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Release-Channels
 i'll re-flesh... and.. should I update that on main page here so most people get stable?
 main page of ?
 https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
 ask the maintainer, they might be a reason
 ok i'm one of them kind of but not that section haa
 it says that channel isn'g able to find
 sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=mako —channel=15.04/stable —bootstrap
 i did it like that
 but RC did wor
 so i'll try that one.  stable = missing (maybe just for mako)
 anyway... cool. im' goig to go to bed but i can say my long hard day ended well haha
 #audiocast it!
 ok so once i confirm that there is not a stable channel for N4 then I will report this video camera bug
 it's there on RC too
 Hey @neothethird remember that time you asked me to re-write that 'ubports' thing (intro)? And then I did?  The old one is still there and it kind of sucks
 it was quickly written... let me know if you still have my version or if you need me to try to find it... that will be hard but
 i still feel like i might be on a wrong channel here and something has been updated... i thin i'll go to bed and see what happens in the morning.  night everyoe
 so?... … Those $1943 donations are only via patreon? 🤔
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 @Jaume81, Oh, that's not right. The cache folder on my desktop is only 80mb so somethings off there.  … Also you shouldn't need to prevent app suspension, that will be wasting battery as it will still be updating the view and running animations when not focused. dekkod runs in the background anyway and the UI should update when waking from suspension.
 @Jaume81 do you use POP3? that could explain the massive size if you do as Dekko will download *everything*
 @Josué, I have Meizu Pro 5. But I click the volum + and - thogether or at same time.
 @Dan, finally I get Hotmail by Outlook config but I was try pop3 config before.
 @Dan, if I clean cache will I erase the accounts?
 Good morning!!! In the morning.💤
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/30TF3O8k/file_642.webp
 @Jaume81 yes deleting the cache will erase the accounts.
 @Jaume81 what does `du -h ~/.cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/` in the terminal show?
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition, Yep, since I didn't have access to the other figures. But of course PayPal and Bitcoin donations are valued as well. :)
 @wayneoutthere, Sorry, forgot to tell you. Rc is the one you want
 @neothethird, I donate 'manually' every month via paypal to minimize patreon costs..
 That also arrives, I just didn't have access
 To the number
 allright. Just wondering
 I have thought clean cache with the app. Why terminal can't copy-paste?
 I do it the terminal order you say. What will I have to see?
[07:40] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @aki237, @Flohack any idea?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/EVsOVv6g/file_644.jpg
 @DanChapman
[07:45] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @aki237, Maybe better ask porting questions in the forum as they tend to get overseen in the chatter here.
[07:45] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> ^^ https://forums.ubports.com/category/33/porting
 Is there a forum thread to talk about scopes? Wanna tell my opinion
 @Jaume81 you can see there that the last line of output shows the cache folder is only 79MB not the 700 odd Tweak Tool shows
 Most of the cache usage will be from ~/.cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/mail which is showing 74MB
[08:12] <tgBot10> <demokrit atomos> does anybody know how to rotate the screen in yunit/unity8 + mir? (xrandr doesn't work)
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[08:45] <tgBot10> Henry Sprog was added by: Henry Sprog
[08:49] <tgBot10> <Henry Sprog> Sorry to be a pain but I had given up on touch until somebody told me about you. Like a plank I locked the boot loader on my Meizu Pro 5 any ideas how I can unlock it ( it needs a code and fastboot oem-unlock does not work).😭
 @Henry Sprog, First of all, welcome to the group. Did you try contacting the Meizu Support? Maybe they'll be able to help. Since this is a group chat, and questions like this tend to get lost easily, i'd suggest to also ask your question on forums.ubports.com.
 Hello ! Is https://translate.ubports.com/ down or it moved to a new url?
 @olisax, huh, looks like it's down. Pinging @Flohack
 Oh not just me then... I tried accessing it this morning but was having connection issues anyway so just put it down to that
 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/translate.ubports.com 😊
[09:00] <tgBot10> <Henry Sprog> @neothethird, I did and they were no use it appears that the ubuntu phone was unlocked and I am not the only one to lock it. From what I can gather it requires a lock code that only Meizu can provide but you have to go to a service centre the nearest one is in Asia which is no use for me in the uk. Thank you for the tip I will post the question but I have little hope!
 Henry Is https://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-pro-5/how-to/tutorial-unlock-bootloader-meizu-pro-5-t3303127 still relevent? I presume you have the international version if it came with UT on originally
 Hi all ) I had created the Azerbaijani keyboard for ubuntu years ago )
 Now I want to contribute )
 @DanChapman, No problem. Like I said before, I understand is a beta version. Ubuntu Touch OS and the apps need a good fit to work well. Final version.
 @turanmahmudov, I can't find where to find keyboard source. Can you help me please?
 @turanmahmudov https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component
 @DanChapman thanks a lot :)
 👍
[09:09] <tgBot10> Louis O’Quinn was added by: Louis O’Quinn
 welcome :)
 how can i mannualy  refresh the dash when i install sometthing with "pkcon"
 @delijati, pull the dash down
 pull down and release
 ahh thanks :)
[09:22] <tgBot10> <Henry Sprog> @DanChapman, Hi Dan. Thanks for the link. I thought I had seen this but on closer inspection it is similar but not the same. I will read it and see if I can unlock the boot loader.
[09:34] <tgBot10> Dani was added by: Dani
 Does anyone has a review of the utouch experience on Nexus 5 with the current ubports status?
 I just noticed that I am not able to mount my OPO (latest devel). I know that bug was fixed long ago and it worked for me the last time I checked. I have rebooted the device, but same problem. Developer mode activated and phone unlocked. Regression? Could anyone confirm?
 @Dani, I've been using the Nexus 5 as my daily driver for a few months now. I have no amjor problems with it. Video doesn't work, LED notifications don't work but, for me, as a light user it's more than adequate. It's not a like for like replacement for Android though.
 Thank you so much, Peter
 @BrisPete, LED works for me for SMS, Telegram and calendar notifications
 has womething changed i dont see my log from "adb shell /system/bin/logcat"
[09:50] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @shinyhairsmylifeambition, No, but go and post you opinion on ubports forum page
[09:50] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> https://forums.ubports.com/
 @TomasOqvist, https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues/13
 @Stefan Kalb, Thanks...
 console.log; qDebug are not shown anymore in "adb shell /system/bin/logcat" oO
 ok the last time i debugged my app was on ubuntu touch ...
 so ubports changed somethign regarding that ?
 i get this E/cutils-trace( 3120): Error opening trace file: Permission denied (13)
 not sure if it is related to my problem
 @delijati, isn't /system/bin/logcat for the android container?  … tail /var/log/syslog for the system log or tail ~/.cache/upstart/application-click<yourclickpackage>.log for your application log
 @Ern_st, This bug still affects also incoming calls, right?
[11:28] <tgBot10> ysgupta was added by: ysgupta
 welcome :)
 Hi,
 @Ern_st, Are you sure? on latest devel and rc as well?
 I am ubuntu user and I want to port ubuntu touch to my mobile.
 How should I proceed?
 halium.org will provide you with information on getting started
 what's your device?
 My device is not a listed device. It is Videocon Cube3.
 @ysgupta, Mediatek??
 Let me confirm first.
 yes, as per manufacturer website, it is MT6573V/W, 1.3Ghz Quad Core.
 Can we confirm it from baseband version?
 Does your device have atleast CM-12.1?
 No, It is android 6.0
 @Dani, I've been using the RC channel on a Nexus 5 for a week now and everything works except for making videos. No whatsapp app yet, but navigation, maps, browsing... all works perfectly.
 @Josué, Thanks!
 oh, and the notification led also works, only one colour though
 @Josué, Cool, thanks for the feedback. If you have time, we drafted a QA plan https://nc.ubports.com/s/VUiW8rZnOR2hMYg that testers can use to make sure everything works
 @neothethird, nice, I'll fill it out as soo as I have a second
 @Josué, thanks 👍
 @neothethird, should i update the website to show that?
 Hi all. I have a Bq E4.5 in rc r4 and recently (since last update I think, but I'm not sure) I can't open Webtelegram (it crashes after the splash screen), the Browser (I can see the home screen for a moment but without the textfield at the top and then it crashes) and in Dekko when I open a mail the app freezes in the middle of the animation while scrolling to right and then it crashes... … idk what can be happened, could be the new update that 
[12:24] <tgBot10> too much ram, or something like that? … thanks😊
 oh, I've just seen the last bug to OTA 2...
 @Josué, same issue with video for N4 it seems.  Will be daily drivin' it today.  I'll try to put the bugs where they should be if any
 did anyone answer why we have to create an ubuntu one account to instsall apps?  I don't have to do that on my Unity Ubuntu
 Good point! I always thought it was kinda strange
 We demand answers
 Because Canonical said so
 the account is needed for Telegram push notifications...
 ah! that was it
 You can install apps from the OpenStore without an account
 oh!
 sweet.  ... including telegram?  If everything works without the original store, why don't we leave the open store and sack the original?
 Because the original store is still open and has some apps that people want
 @garrogarri, I don't know, i don't have a sim card in my nexus 4.
 @neothethird Trying to use ubports-installer: … ```./ubports-installer-0.1.6-beta-x86_64.AppImage  … bash: ./ubports-installer-0.1.6-beta-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error```
 @UniversalSuperBox, oh. i see and those apps can't be moved to the open store?  I assume this is already in the plans and im just talking about stuff that doesn't matter and will eventually happen.  Sorry
 @wayneoutthere, That's the responsibility of the app's developer
 @neothethird, Yes the bugs are still there.
 Can you reopen these bugs ?
 i installed telegram from original ubuntu store just now and i seem to only get the introductory message.  As soon as time came to input the SMS code... everything crashed and now it opens to the white screen of death-a-gram.  Should I have installed it from open store or something?
 it has an upgrade option if i open telegram from the open store....
[12:48] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Upgrade
 We've been in touch with app developers, asking if they could release their applications (the most important ones) on OpenStore too. There has been a generally positive response, however not all the developers replied to our request. … The good news is that many of the apps we're missing are open source. As we already did for some app, we could grab the sources, build and release the app as-is, and eventually wait for someone who's willing to
[12:48] <tgBot10> maintain it.
 @Milan Korecky, roger that
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 and ... telegram is working!  thanks folks.  Of course I can't supergroup with you from it but the rest seems to work so nearly able to daily drive...  thanks again for everyone who has been helping with n4.  I Heard it was someone named Andreas so thanks Andreas!
 going to try Dekko 2.  Is this smart or not?  I don't care if it kind of crashes but will it kill my main phone?
 wow.. nice startup flow on Dekko 2 so far!  looks nice, flows well.. 👍
 oh.. crap.  where do I file Dekko 2 bugs? the keyboard doesn't pop up to input my IMAP info, haha
 @wayneoutthere, You have to, if you want to use snaps..
 @garrogarri, i love the snaps idea so... ok.  i get it.  so later we could call it the 'snap store'
 I don't like that I need to log in every time
 to ubuntu store?  i haven't gotten that far. only installed telegram but that would be weird for sure.  but someone said that store will be shut down end of year.    ths is probably something the pros can talk about on the QA again.  anyway, i jst need to get my basics set up before I work together to daily drive this.  dekko is next... but it seems like Dekko 2 is not going to work for me.  Will have to figure out where to file bugs
 crazy. my keyboard showed up now! haha.
 i had to close it reopen it.
 @wayneoutthere, I was talking of the desktop store
 oh.  i don't remember that happening but i'm on unity (old one) if that matters
[13:20] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere you can install both Dekko, and to make appear the keyboard just swipe from left, it is know bug
[13:22] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Known
[13:29] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> https://dekkoproject.org/
[13:32] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/issues
 the keyboard issue maybe system related, I've seen other apps with the same problem. The temporary solution is to swipe to another app and back to the one you were using and the keyboard will pop up
 @wayneoutthere, That's not a dekko bug. It's somewhere in the platform plugins and how it handles input focusing of multi window apps
 *qpa platform plugin
[13:47] <tgBot10> <Stefan Kalb> @Henry Sprog, You can also try to support the european meizu support. Maybe they can help: http://support.meizumart.it/
 @garrogarri, You don't have to login if you use sudo.
 sorry for my inexperience. i want to explore more any one give me a hint where to start, please....!!!
[13:51] <tgBot10> amitsin6h was added by: amitsin6h
 @Josué, yeah you're for sure right.  That's twice today on different apps.
 @gostranger, hi!  sure.  what do you want to explore first?  give me one hint and 750 of us will send you many places!
 like... the phone?  the community?  developping?  Helping?
 developing
 @DanChapman, like sudo snapd ...? But from Gnome software it request log in
 @gostranger, cool.  well great news.  there are more than 2 developers in this group but I am not one of them.
 do you already develop stuff?  Someone here can probably direct you and guide you better than I... but definitely we need lots of help
 thanks a lot @wayneoutthere
 well, just let me know if you need anything.  also feel free to PM me on the side if I can hep
 help
 @garrogarri, Yeah just `sudo snap install foo`
 Where are the assets for the boot logo? (not the unity system compositor, the thing before that)
[14:20] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Some news about ubphone for harpia?
[14:21] <Beton> Is https://translate.ubports.com/ down or it's just my connection problem?
 Beton, it's having some issues with locking its database. It's working, just very slowly. @Flohack is on the case.
 @Tardis96 Desenvolvedor, This is the only news  I have.  Maybe Halium? … https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
[14:23] <tgBot10> <Tardis96 Desenvolvedor> Thanks
 @UniversalSuperBox, OpenStore app v2 is waiting for some new translation strings ;)
[14:25] <Beton> Ok, thanks, so I will wait ;)
 I have pinged the master of Weblate again.
 if we all bug him will that make him work faster? lol
 make a bot bug him
 have it send him random gifs
 ```$ systemctl status apache2 … ... … Active: inactive (dead) since Wed 2017-09-20 06:06:40 UTC; 8h ago```
 Well, there's the problem
 It came back up!
 I pinged it with a begging tone and it responded
 that was a lie.
 The OpenStore v2 app is ready for release, if you would like to translate some strings before we do that, check out (the now alive again) weblate: https://translate.ubports.com/projects/openstore/openstore-app/
[14:41] <Beton> OperationalError (1205, 'Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction')... When i trying to save changes.
 @bhdouglass, Cool ! It seems that french is already 100% translated, correct?
 well, weblate seems to be a little slow importing the new strings, check back later?
 Ok, weblate seems to have caught up. Be nice to it, it's having a rough morning :)
 (send it some coffee)
 hi, does the Ubuntu login work for translate?
 I get this: IntegrityError at /accounts/complete/ubuntu/ … (1048, "Column 'social_id' cannot be null")
 It seems you need to have name,username and e-mail ticked to make it work; working now
[15:03] <tgBot10> FabioMorandini was added by: FabioMorandini
 @bhdouglass, now that is something I'm actually able to do. Almost.
 N4: Telegram app works but then when falls asleep and start using it again, as soon as it gets network connectivity (resumes) it puts it back to welcome screen where you have to input the phone number and start setting up app from scratch
 throwing it out there since I"m middle of work day
 Xiaomi and Meizu the best. Apple is shit.
 And I'm russian slowpoke
 What?
 They were playing ping pong
 I just took part
 Okay... xD
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/XfKtpE0C/file_645.mp4
 QUESTION: i just installed ubports for N4.  do I need to do a system update?  I was thinking maybe some of these bugs will wash away if I do that...
 173/5000 … I installed the stable version, I updated by terminal and it appears to turn on the flashlight but it does not work. normal? Do you have to wait for the ota 2 to work?.nexus 5
[16:55] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, Webtelegram or app Telegram?
[16:56] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, Which version do you have and what channel?
[17:01] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @geminis65, Do you mean you have made update from stable to RC channel?
 de rc a stable
[17:06] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> On Nexus 5 with stable the flaslight does not work yet, neighter installing the app from openstore. If you want to try go to RC or better wait until Saturday OTA2 should arrive.
 But we'd highly encourage you go to rc and follow the pinned link to test the new stuff
 @Milan Korecky, app
 that's cool. i never thought of web telegram but i saw it there... hmm.
 @Milan Korecky, RC
 @UniversalSuperBox, cool. i accidentally did that for you! my phone doesn't ring by the way.  no sound.  one ring... silence
 actually no ring tones at all. just vibrator. haha
 this is not aawesome for sales but i'm in this for the team!
 @wayneoutthere, That'd be great information in the test plan document, submitted to Jan's e-mail!
 was in rc but he put the stable to test if everything rc worked
 something I notice is that the system becomes unstable if you install something on top of a previous installation. I did that and I had to use the erase and reset all to actually get it to work
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5YncbMvv/file_646.webp
 @neothethird, Sorry me was in planes and did not look into supergroup 😆. Fixed now
[17:59] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, 👍
 can you install this from the recovery?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/9nhWuFwg/file_647.gz
 vivid-preinstaled-touch-armhf-tar-gz
 Before I give you the answer... Why are you trying to do that?
 I like to mess around and try new things
 Well, that image is the same one that the devel channel uses. So you're not really getting anything new
 Thank you very much.I like to trastear and try things.Although this I do not know anything and half of things do not work.
 if anyone is wondering: trastear = play with, test or touch things I'm not supposed to
 so i just wanted to quickly confirm: the best channel is RC for N4, correct? I mean the closest to 'stable' correct>?
 @wayneoutthere, yes and you can help us testing ^^
 Great function in Dekko2!!! To look for the e-mails from the same person
 Only have to push the icon
 To search e-mails, sorry
 hello. is this ok group to ask how to enable and pair bluetooth mouse with adb command (touchscreen has no touch)
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 @Darren Shipp, welcome
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 @beernarrd, fairly easy with bluetoothctl
 @Flohack, ok.  i'll do my best in a few hours to do some testing for you.  today's first day with N4 was a 'challenge' but i feel like they are fixable
 Anybody has the advanced VPN app as a click package? The original is not on-line anymore
 @Ern_st, ok but without touch, cannot adb to the device (right after first boot - no developer mode).
 @beernarrd, except your phone accepd a usb mouse you cannot
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/vpMgd9EN/file_648.mp4
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/w14XposW/file_649.mp4
 were there so few changes in OpeStore v2  from texts point of view? like 13 or so?
 @bhdouglass this question summons you
 thaks @UniversalSuperBox  🙂
 Tactical pings
 Anybody have problems with the keyboard?
 You're gonna need to be more specific.
 Because sometimes shows the last word I wrote.
 I have many problems with my keyboard, including the fact that it has an indent of my face in it.
 Ah, okay, that one
 wrote.and now happens
 Yes, that's a bug that's been reported. https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/issues/7
 👍. And the cursor to move between letter or words?
 Hmm?
 https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/issues/14 ?
 @PhoenixLandPirate is very well spoken
 :P
 @thepeter, I'll summon @sverzegnassi 🙂
 For example, in iOS's keyboard when you pull the keyboard show the trackpad and in Android when you pull the text make zoom.
 @bhdouglass, wait... but if Stefano summons me we'll be in a summon loop! This would be disastrous.
 @bhdouglass, hehe okay :) thx
 Yes that link @UniversalSuperBox
 just found out that the was not even created my language for system settings so I am starting it up from scratch 🙃
 I prefer the Apple solution. And it seems more easy to put in Ubuntu Touch because the screen is the trackpad when you conect with an another screen.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I thought press and hold off space bar allowed you to move the cursor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1566172
 use the space bar for moving the text cursor? what kind of craziness is that?
 Same as iOS IIRC
 @thepeter, Most of the work on the new client app has been focused on its backend, which now uses brand new APIs made by @bhdouglass . The UI (and strings) only received minor changes this time :)
 Or transform in trackpad making a swipe up from the space bar.
 @ahayzen, But this already landed here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk/revision/543 :-)
 @ahayzen, +1
 oh, I thought it meant something else, I thought the suggestion was to use the space bar to move the cursor forward one step
 @sverzegnassi, cool that I am glad to hear 🙂 then my work there is done and I'll focus on system-settings translation 😙
 In the keyboard it's very difficult put the cursor between two writen words.
 @neothethird yesterday or before I propose a few swipes to Ubuntu Touch. I saw a iPhone X's video and Apple do it but they swipe from the up corners.
 @Cesar_Herrera, It's true
 @Flohack why are we using "hotspot" and not "tethering" when sharing cellular  data connection over Wi-Fi? 😀
 @thepeter, You mean the word?
 yep
 No idea ask Canonickel
 hehehe okay I suggest, we in time change it to "terminus technicus" :D (OTA 3 maybe?)
 ^^
 btw just hour agou found out there wasn't yet created slovak language for system-settings module so it will take me a while (writting it from scratch)
 hmm uh rly?
 strange how the quality of the translations differs
 yep I was surprissed too, I lived in the world where everything I was offered was translated to slovak already, until I saw your post on forums and suddenly realised, that it was a lie ... 😅 will have to look for other modules because I suspect that there could be more without language being created
 but you can select Slovak as the language of the phone right?
 browser still crashing on bqE5 rc version 4.. did you roll it back?
 yes
 @Flohack, yes
 still the same here..
 I even have (on not switched device) system settings translated to slovak
 Ok we need to find out how to add new languages that are not part of Ubuntu as default ;)
 like the PC edition?