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[05:26] <jibel> good morning
[05:48] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:55] <jibel> salut oSoMoN
[05:57] <didrocks> good morning
[05:57] <didrocks> salut jibel, oSoMoN
[05:58] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[05:58] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[05:59] <jibel> salut didrocks
[06:03] <seb128> salut les frenchies, oSoMoN didrocks jibel
[06:03] <ThorHop[m]> Something that bothers me is that there are very few screenshots in gnome-software...
[06:06] <jamesh> oSoMoN: fyi: my branch adding host system font access for snaps got merged to master.  That probably means it'll be generally available in snapd-2.29
[06:14] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:14] <oSoMoN> jamesh, yes, I’ve seen the branch land, thanks!
[06:14] <oSoMoN> I’ll be eagerly waiting for it to be released
[06:15] <jamesh> oSoMoN: it should only require you to plug the "desktop" interface, so apps should pick this up by default as they move to the new interface
[06:30] <seb128> jamesh, did you land the complete work? like if you plug to the desktop interface all the host fonts are bindmounted for you?
[06:30] <seb128> the pr I saw was just adding the mountdir but not doing any actual mounting
[06:30] <seb128> jamesh, oh and hey btw :-)
[06:31] <jamesh> seb128: yeah.  There were two parts: (1) adding the empty directories as mount points to the core snap, and (2) updating the desktop interface to actually do the bind mounts
[06:31] <jamesh> seb128: (2) is what just landed
[06:31] <seb128> ah nice
[06:31] <seb128> good to know they are open to that as well
[06:31] <seb128> do you plan to do similar changes for other things
[06:32] <jamesh> this is just in master right now though, so you'd need to compile your own snapd until it is released
[06:32] <seb128> like maybe mimetypes
[06:32] <jamesh> seb128: I want to solve theming, but that is a little more complex
[06:32] <seb128> k, that one would be good
[06:32] <jamesh> I'm not sure whether exposing the host shared-mime-info makes sense
[06:33] <jamesh> we should work out a way to avoid the rebuild that the desktop-helpers part does though
[06:33] <seb128> right
[06:34] <jamesh> the host system mime database is going to be a combination of the base shared-mime-info and stuff provided by installed applications
[06:35] <jamesh> (a) it's not clear we want confined apps to know everything that's installed out of the sandbox, and (b) it's not clear that they could meaningfully use that info
[06:35] <jamesh> (e.g. they can't launch those apps directly)
[06:38] <seb128> right
[06:38] <seb128> well, that's not an important part to resolve now in any case, theme is higher priority for sure
[06:39] <seb128> oh other topic
[06:39] <seb128> jamesh, did you see bug #1715662?
[06:39] <ubot5> bug 1715662 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Network Connectivity Checking does not turn gray when toggle is set to Off" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715662
[06:39] <seb128> jamesh, and did you forget to send your weekly summary for the meeting yesterday or did that just got lost on the way?
[06:39] <seb128> sorry for the dump of questions :-)
[06:43] <jamesh> seb128: I had seen that bug.  The code is supposed to be doing delayed update, but obviously isn't quite working right.  I forgot to send through my update yesterday.
[06:44] <seb128> jamesh, l_aney has a review comment pointing to a code error which he thinks explains the issue, can you have a look to that and comment back at least? even if you don't have slots to work on a fix atm
[06:46] <jamesh> seb128: sure.
[06:46] <seb128> thanks
[08:01] <Laney> hooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:01] <didrocks> hey ho Laney
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:08] <Laney> hey didrocks seb128
[08:08] <Laney> I'm gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[08:08] <seb128> :-)
[08:08] <Laney> you?
[08:09] <seb128> I'm good as well, had a good night and was up feeling fresh and ready to work at 7am
[08:09] <seb128> already got quite some work done
[08:09] <seb128> and I'm playing tennis tonight :-)
[08:10] <willcooke> morning all.  I'm on child care for a little bit this morning.  Should be back in about 15 mins
[08:11] <Laney> 7am wtf
[08:13] <seb128> lol
[08:13] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:13] <seb128> good luck with the kids
[08:13] <Laney> moin willcooke
[08:14] <c-lobrano> morning all 0/
[08:15] <seb128> hey c-lobrano
[08:38] <jibel> I'm looking at bug 1718285 and trying to confirm it. It seems that it's caused by the uim module under wayland. I installed uim but would anyone know how to enable it? I found nothing to configure input methods in control center
[08:38] <ubot5> bug 1718285 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in XGetModifierMapping()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718285
[08:39] <willcooke> back
[08:45] <seb128> jibel, GTK_IM_MODULE=uim <cmd>
[08:45] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:45] <jibel> thanks
[08:45] <seb128> jibel, I wanted to look at that but I'm currently under an x11 session and can't restart
[08:45] <seb128> jibel, the bt is gtk2 so find something gtk2ish
[08:45] <seb128> ignore that it's nautilus
[08:46] <seb128> and gtk3
[08:46] <seb128> I saw a similar on gtk2 earlier
[08:46] <seb128> ah, no, it's the retrace
[08:46] <seb128> im_module_init (type_module=0x55a287902100) at ../../gtk2/immodule/gtk-im-uim.c:1808
[08:46] <seb128> I wonder if uim is wrongly built and install the gtk2 module in the gtk3 dir
[08:47] <seb128> seems not
[08:47] <willcooke> koza, seb128 let's skip again today.  duflu is out and nothing new to report on the current bluez stack I think
[08:47] <seb128> willcooke, koza, +1
[08:48] <willcooke> oh, except, I havent looked, but do you know if the fix for that bluetooth exploit is released to Xenial?
[08:48]  * willcooke now looks
[08:48] <seb128> willcooke, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.37-0ubuntu5.1
[08:48] <jibel> seb128, the gtk2 module is installed in the gtk2 dir and GTK_IM_MODULE=uim nautiluse crashes nautilus immediately
[08:48] <koza> willcooke, breaks my heart but yeah we can skip
[08:48]  * willcooke sends koza some flowers
[08:48] <koza> it is released, snap is following
[08:48] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[08:49] <seb128> willcooke, yw!
[08:49]  * koza koza has lags, is uploading kernel at 34.00 KiB/s 
[08:50] <willcooke> :(
[08:51] <seb128> jibel, the uim bug is https://github.com/uim/uim/issues/71
[08:52] <jibel> thanks, I'll update lp
[08:52] <seb128> refresh first
[08:52] <seb128> I did some changes to the bug
[08:52] <jibel> ok
[09:00] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, hey, have you had a chance to check the chromium update (61.0.3163.79) in the stage ppa?
[09:28] <jamesh> seb128: this should fix up the gnome-control-center issue: https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/gnome-control-center/ubuntu-bug-1715662/+merge/331038
[09:29] <seb128> jamesh, great, thanks
[10:26] <didrocks> jbicha: FYI, tried the pkexec patch, but it only has effects on Xorg session, so I think we can wait for .1 :)
[11:08] <seb128> bah, tb segfaults on start for me now
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> oSoMoN, yeah, I'm working on it
[11:16] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[11:16] <seb128> restarting
[12:03] <jbicha> seb128: hi, I guess we want NM 1.8.4 (released today) ? https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/NEWS/?h=nm-1-8
[12:04] <jbicha> in case it helps with new gnome-control-center shell crashes?
[12:05] <seb128> jbicha, hey, sure
[12:05] <seb128> jbicha, I was going to ask you if you knew of a ppa with 1.10
[12:05] <seb128> jbicha, the NEWS doesn't sound like it fixes the g-c-c issue though
[12:08] <Laney> nah, master is still buggy, I tried with NM/g-c-c from git using jhbuild
[12:09] <seb128> Laney, would be useful if you say so on #control-center :-)
[12:09] <seb128> also good to mention
[12:09] <seb128> I was about to spend time on that
[12:09] <Laney> I just did mention it
[12:09] <Laney> I literally just did that so this is not a case of me failing to tell you
[12:09] <seb128> right, and I just thanked you for doing so :-)
[12:09] <Laney> ok
[12:10] <Laney> feel free to spend time on it
[12:10] <Laney> I'm going to have lunch
[12:10] <seb128> sorry, messages don't get through IRC easily sometime
[12:10] <seb128> thanks for testing!
[12:10] <seb128> I don't have a jhbuild handy around
[12:10] <jbicha> it feels to me like the old g-c-c shell doesn't crash as much but I don't use the old shell as much either
[12:10] <seb128> so I was going to start some manual building figuring out build options and such
[12:25] <seb128> jbicha, do you have any idea what we do about that cups-filters/qpdf issue?
[12:29] <jbicha> seb128: I thought tkamppeter fixed it (LP: #1718215) with cups-filters 1.17.7 but that's stuck in artful-proposed because of cups autopkgtest failures
[12:30] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1718215 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "versions of cups-filters and libqpdf do not match" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718215
[12:30] <seb128> jbicha, right, the "blocked in proposed because of cups autopkg" is the issue
[12:31] <jbicha> I FAIL stderr: /usr/bin/lp: Unsupported document-format "application/pdf"
[12:31] <seb128> Till is away for travel/visiting of NY/w.e now
[12:31] <seb128> right
[12:31] <jbicha> I don't know
[12:31] <seb128> I emailed Till about it
[12:31] <seb128> but he said the cups-filters update should fix that
[12:33] <seb128> jbicha, should we revert the qpdf update
[12:33] <seb128> ?
[12:33] <jbicha> the tests pass in Debian https://ci.debian.net/packages/c/cups/unstable/amd64/
[12:34] <c-lobrano> does anybody knows why compiling mutter 3.24.4 I got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/25578901/ ?
[12:35] <seb128> jbicha, that's good to know but doesn't help us much?
[12:35] <c-lobrano> *does anybody know
[12:36] <jbicha> revert qpdf to what? qpdf 7b1 has been in artful for a few weeks
[12:37] <seb128> that version works
[12:37] <seb128> the issue is that they changed a symbol between 7b1 and 7
[12:38] <seb128> c-lobrano, I don't
[12:39] <c-lobrano> seb128: ok, thanks anyway
[12:40] <seb128> jbicha, it's probably more productive to fix the issue but it's a bit annoying that it's when Till is travelling :-/
[12:42] <c-lobrano> Trevinho, maybe :)
[12:43] <seb128> c-lobrano, or the gnome channels
[12:43] <c-lobrano> seb128: I've tried in gnome-shell already, but no luck
[12:44] <jk^> hi all please, how to request a cancellation of a pastebin pasted for error? on paste.ubuntu.com?
[12:47] <seb128> jk^, you can't easily, https://askubuntu.com/questions/406275/i-would-like-to-delete-an-accidental-post-i-did-on-paste-ubuntu-com-while-using suggest filing an ubuntu rt
[12:59] <jbicha> didrocks: do you know why the Ubuntu session uses org.gnome.mutter gsettings instead of org.gnome.shell.overrides like the GNOME session does?
[13:00] <jbicha> it makes configuring dynamic-workspaces or attach-modal-dialog etc. more complicated with Tweaks
[13:03] <seb128> jbicha, I think it has to do with the use of a gnome-shell mode
[13:03] <seb128> I don't remember the details though
[13:09] <didrocks> jbicha: because this is the thing which was hackish in org.gnome.shell.overrides
[13:10] <didrocks> jbicha: and upstream is ging to remove it now that we have per-session overrides
[13:10] <didrocks> (per desktop rather)
[13:11] <didrocks> jbicha: basically, in tweaks, you should just take the gsettings value, so it's actually easier
[13:13] <jbicha> didrocks: I should do what?
[13:14] <didrocks> jbicha: nothing, normally, the settings are just the base ones, org.gnome.mutter
[13:14] <didrocks> and it will be the same for GNOME classic soon
[13:14] <didrocks> (the patches are already ready by Florian)
[13:16] <jbicha> didrocks: it sounds to me like you're saying that this will be easier for 3.28 but what should I do for 3.26?
[13:16] <jbicha> a related bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786311
[13:17] <ubot5> Gnome bug 786311 in general "Ineffective "static workspaces" setting" [Critical,New]
[13:19] <didrocks> jbicha: you can test session and special case ubuntu if you want to support it
[13:19] <didrocks> jbicha: knowing that in 3.28, you sohuld just have to listen on org.gnome.mutter
[13:54] <didrocks> we are really getting a ton of positive comments on my blog post suite
[13:54] <didrocks> the last one being:
[13:54] <didrocks> "Wow, I have just tried it out, you know, Ubuntu 17.10 ... and it looks very nice! Works like a charm!
[13:54] <didrocks> The animations in GNOME 3.26 when maximizing windows etc. also work great. Together with the modifications for Ubuntu, it all looks very posh!"
[13:55] <kenvandine> :-D
[13:55]  * didrocks was more expecting 50/50 feedbacks, but it's overall 80/20 of positive feedbacks
[13:57] <cyphermox> willcooke: ping about the mascott for slideshow :)
[13:57] <didrocks> jbicha: do you mind answer on a Tweak question on https://didrocks.fr/2017/09/20/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-13/#comment-3526266138? I can't think of anything blocking anyone installing an extension on Tweaks…
[13:57] <didrocks> apart from "can't disable extensions being part of a mode" ofc
[13:58] <willcooke> cyphermox, HEY!
[13:58] <willcooke> oops
[13:58] <willcooke> sorry for caps
[13:58] <cyphermox> ahaha
[13:58] <willcooke> I added the mascot to the xcf file in the source
[13:59] <willcooke> and also, lemme find the bug
[13:59] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1717309
[13:59] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1717309 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "17.10 Artful Aardvark Mascot" [Undecided,New]
[14:01] <Trevinho> Laney, seb128: hey... I finally was able to fix all the compile issues, test failures and arch-related troubles (the only "bad thing" i had to accept was disabling -Werror in armhf and ppc64)... s390x doesn't go, but it never went and I guess we don't care. So if you agree, feel free to publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2892
[14:02] <Trevinho> So I can proceed back porting the important fixes on lockscreen to Xenial
[14:03] <seb128> Trevinho, good, I do that
[14:03] <willcooke> Trevinho, was anyone able to test and recreate?
[14:03] <willcooke> on U7 that is
[14:03] <Trevinho> willcooke: what you refer to?
[14:03] <willcooke> Trevinho, the lock screen / desktop flashing up for a couple of seconds
[14:04] <Trevinho> willcooke: ah andyrock had it iirc
[14:04] <cyphermox> willcooke: cool!
[14:07] <seb128> Trevinho, Laney,the publishing fails because of the missing s390x builds it seems
[14:08] <Trevinho> In the past it was ignored... I don't know how to mark that
[14:10] <Trevinho> There's a default that I can't reproduce and also valgrind doesn't complain... I can ignore tests there too... But, I guess we can just ignore the arch
[14:10] <seb128> yeah, unsure how to ignore
[14:10] <seb128> maybe manual pocket copy
[14:12] <tjaalton> does super+up/down work for someone, to maximize/minimize windows? doesn't work for me
[14:12] <tjaalton> left/right does
[14:14] <Trevinho> seb128: probably...
[14:15] <seb128> tjaalton, wfm under wayland
[14:15] <tjaalton> seb128: ok, must be a hw issue on this beta laptop then..
[14:15] <tjaalton> or something
[14:16] <jibel> super+up/down doesn't work on X, but ctrl+super+up/down does
[14:17] <seb128> what keybindings are listed in settings?
[14:17] <tjaalton> jibel: yeah that works here too, and I'm on wayland
[14:18] <jibel> ah, the settings was modified. After a reset super+up/down works
[14:18] <jibel> I don't remember I modified it or looong time ago
[14:24] <tjaalton> me neither
[14:25] <didrocks> never opened ccsm in the unity times?
[14:25] <jibel> it's keybindings inherited from unity7
[14:25] <didrocks> ccsm had the nasty effect to "write" some default keys and so, became non defaults
[14:25] <didrocks> (and so, new defaults aren't applied)
[14:26] <jibel> default zesty installation ctrl+super+up/down maximizes/restores the windows but only super+up/down on artful/g-shell
[14:26] <jibel> so on an upgraded system keybindings are different than a default artful installation
[14:27] <tjaalton> ok, i'll blame ccsm
[14:28] <tjaalton> looks like I got gnome set up pretty much the way I had unity7, but missing alt+f2 which had a history :)
[14:30] <tjaalton> and some weirdness with a n*n workspace grid where some shortcuts think it's still a vertical array of workspaces
[14:30] <tjaalton> but that's just a bug
[14:30] <tjaalton> all in all, artful is looking good :)
[14:30] <GunnarHj> seb128, jbicha: Hi guys, I think I made the adjustments of the ubuntu-seeds MP which we talked about yesterday, including an adjustment of l-s. Any remaining issues/questions, or is any of you ready to merge the thing?
[14:30] <GunnarHj> https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.artful_cjkv-fixes/+merge/329857
[14:31] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm not familiar enough with that to merge it without spending some time trying to understand what it does exactly and I don't have slots for that atm
[14:32] <Laney> Trevinho: looks like the last release does build on s390x q
[14:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, while you are here, could you have a look to the UIFe on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1713712 ?
[14:32] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1713712 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "[UIFe, FFe] Provide Unity Launcher API" [Medium,New]
[14:34] <jbicha> GunnarHj: the MP looks good to me. Speaking of UIFe's, I was going to email the lists soon for LP: #1718083
[14:34] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1718083 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "UIFe: Add Additional Printer Settings button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718083
[14:34] <seb128> Laney, can you force skip over the cups-filters autopkgtest for cups failure? I emailed Till about it and he had a look and wrote "This is not a bug, this is a specialty PPD for Braille embossers which does not support PDF input. The autopkgtest of CUPS (debian/tests/cups in CUPS source package) needs some kind of override"
[14:34] <seb128> jbicha, ^
[14:34] <didrocks> GunnarHj: you should never have said "hi" :)
[14:35] <seb128> :-)
[14:35] <GunnarHj> didrocks, seb128: Wasn't aware of the implied code in that word. :)
[14:36] <seb128> hehe
[14:36] <didrocks> :p
[14:36] <jbicha> seb128: so maybe Debian's autopkgtest didn't fail because they don't have cups-filter 1.17.7 with the extra braille stuff?
[14:37] <Laney> seb128: if it's normal then the test shouldn't fail on it
[14:38] <seb128> jbicha, right
[14:38] <seb128> Laney, right, that's the "needs some kind of override" part
[14:38] <seb128> Laney, but qpdf migrated to artful screwing cups-filters/cups on the way
[14:38] <seb128> and Tiil is travelling to NY on having days off to visit
[14:38] <seb128> so he's off until eow
[14:38] <seb128> so either we keep cups broken in artful for the week
[14:39] <seb128> or we skip over the test for that one
[14:39] <seb128> and Till can do the test fix next week
[14:39] <seb128> Laney, ^
[14:39] <Laney> that thing you pasted doesn't sound like he's planning to fix cups
[14:40] <seb128> the issue is not a real issue but an imperfect test so I would argue in favor of skipping and fixing the archive
[14:40] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Added a comment on 1718083. Will you merge the ubuntu-seeds MP?
[14:40] <Laney> yes, well, everyone always argues in favour of skipping over regressions rather than fixing things
[14:40] <seb128> Laney, let me forward you the emails, I didn't want to spam IRC too much
[14:40] <jbicha> seb128: did cups-filters just need a rebuild against qpdf? if so, maybe going back to 1.17.5 would be easier now
[14:40] <seb128> jbicha, that would be a solution I guess
[14:41] <seb128> Laney, I fowarded you the email, let me know what you want to do
[14:41] <seb128> options are
[14:41] <seb128> - keep artful buggy until somebody fixes the cups test (not likely this week)
[14:41] <seb128> - delete the cups-filters and do a no change rebuild from the old version
[14:41] <seb128> - skip over the test for now and fix properly next week
[14:41] <seb128> afaik
[14:42] <jibel> option 1 is not an option: buggy mean "no printing at all"
[14:42] <GunnarHj> seb128: Added a comment on 1713712.
[14:42] <jibel> so it's either revert or force the publication
[14:42] <seb128> jibel, well it's an option, even if you don't like it
[14:42] <seb128> I didn't say it was a good option
[14:43] <jibel> you cannot reasonably keep printing broken for a week
[14:43] <seb128> that's not the option I favorite
[14:43] <seb128> agreed
[14:43] <seb128> but I can't be bothered going backward
[14:43] <seb128> and L_aney is not liking skips
[14:43] <seb128> so we might just end up there
[14:45] <seb128> jbicha, thanks for merging GunnarHj's changes
[14:46] <seb128> I'm going to ask Till to set up an autopkgtest for qpdf as well
[14:46] <seb128> so next time it doesn't migrate screwing up cups-filters/cups
[14:48] <willcooke> It's probably worth pinging Till on email anyway, he might get a few mins here and there in the hotel before he goes out adventuring
[14:49] <seb128> willcooke, I did, he debugged the issue
[14:49] <seb128> well figured out what the problem is
[14:49] <seb128> it's not a bug in the runtime, just a test that is being done over braille ppds which are special cases and shouldn't be tested in that conext
[14:49] <seb128> context
[14:50] <seb128> I don't think he's going to have the slots to do the packaging changes today though and he's off tomorrow/friday and I don't think it's important enough to ask him to take time on his days off to work
[14:50] <willcooke> yeah, I mean he might fix the tests this week
[14:51] <willcooke> worth asking is all I mean
[14:52] <seb128> right, let me do that
[15:00] <Laney> it would be easy for anyone to update /usr/share/cups/test-drivers to skip that brail [4~ even if that's temporaryledriver
[15:01] <Laney> i'm having a really hard time IRCing atm, sorry
[15:01] <Laney> don't even know if these messages are getting through
[15:01] <seb128> Laney, they do
[15:01] <seb128> thanks for the suggestion
[15:06] <seb128> I emailed Till asking about that
[15:10] <seb128> oSoMoN, you should probably change back the GNOME bug about the screen config being lost from needinfo to new since you provided the info
[15:11] <oSoMoN> seb128, I was kind of expecting the person who asked for more info to do that, and it seems I can only change it to RESOLVED
[15:12] <seb128> oh ok
[15:12] <seb128> oSoMoN, ignore me then, sometime it acts as a small nudging but I didn't remember the status was locked
[15:13] <Laney> managed to pass about 3 packets
[15:15] <Laney> others in this room aren't having problems
[15:15] <Laney> :/
[15:15] <seb128> :-/
[15:15] <seb128> Laney, time to use your 3g? ;-)
[15:16] <Laney> can't tether on that
[15:16] <Laney> ok, seems a bit better now
[15:17] <seb128> wb!
[15:22] <willcooke> cyphermox, lol @ aardvarkify
[15:33] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, remember those /dev/shm/org.chromium.XXXXXX denials in the firefox snap? looks like firefox uses some chromium code for IPC, and they didn't bother modifying the namespace… https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/ipc/chromium/src/base/file_util_posix.cc
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, you probably know that but just to give a confirmation, your n-m change fixes the g-c-c/unlock segfault for me
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, do you plan to handle the n-m upload with the vpn patch and yours once they are accepted?
[15:50] <Laney> seb128: can do if necessary
[15:52] <seb128> Laney, that would be nice :-)
[15:55] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, indeed
[15:55] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, do you think that's related to the problem?
[15:57] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, I think so, yes
[16:01] <Trevinho> Laney: hey, you saw my ping of before?
[16:01] <Trevinho> it's still valid, though I triggered a rebuild of the silo as I missed a commit
[16:04] <Laney> Trevinho: yes, you said that s390x doesn't build, right?
[16:04] <Laney> the last build in artful does have an s390x build so that's probably why it's complaining
[16:05] <Trevinho> Laney: well, it's libnux that doesn't
[16:05] <Trevinho> it builds
[16:05] <Trevinho> but... it segfaults in a test
[16:05] <Trevinho> and I can't really debug it
[16:05] <Trevinho> valgrind is ok with it here
[16:07] <Laney> doesn't matter why, just that's the reason I think
[16:07] <Laney> so you probably need an archive admin to help you remove it or something
[16:12] <Trevinho> Laney: so... you suggest me to disable the tests and get it done, or ask for the removal?
[16:12] <Laney> I don't think there's much point building something that is totally/mostly broken
[16:12] <Laney> so maybe remove it
[16:12] <Laney> but you need to check for things which depend or build-depend on it too
[16:13] <Trevinho> I guess only unity
[16:13] <Trevinho> ype
[16:14] <Trevinho> sil2100: can you help with that? ^
[16:15] <Trevinho> or didrocks... but he's out now :(
[16:15] <Trevinho> ah, seb128 too, no?
[16:15]  * Trevinho goes through the list of admins :-D
[16:17] <ricotz> oSoMoN, regarding firefox, this looks troublesome indeed
[16:59] <oSoMoN> good night all
[17:14] <qengho> yo
[17:16] <jbicha> qengho: hi! I hope Irma wasn't too bad for you
[17:19] <qengho> jbicha: Hi! Thanks! I barely felt it because I moved 3000 miles away.
[17:19] <jbicha> oh, that works
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[18:30] <kenvandine> yay, auto-connection for gnome-3-26-1604 granted :)
[18:30] <kenvandine> jdstrand, thx!
[18:30] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[18:31] <jdstrand> yw
[18:33] <jdstrand> kenvandine: curious if you are doing one for gnome-3-24-1604?
[18:34] <kenvandine> jdstrand, i could easily
[18:35] <kenvandine> jdstrand, but not sure we need/want it now that we have 3.26
[18:36] <kenvandine> less to maintain this way, we'll do one for 3.28 when it's out then we'll have multiple versions to maintain
[18:37] <kenvandine> so lets not start with extra baggage :)
[18:51] <jbicha> seb128: could you subscribe desktop-bugs to ibus-table-chinese and mozc? this is follow-up from GunnarHj's seed change
[18:59] <jdstrand> kenvandine: wfm. perhaps you will want to have the snap removed if you are abandoning it (once you move your stuff off of it). just for your consideration
[20:43] <kenvandine> jdstrand, yeah, that's a good idea
[20:59] <jackpot51> So, there are serious HiDPI regressions on 3.26 with Xorg. These are visible in the Artful installer.
[21:00] <jackpot51> Has anybody seen these?
[22:26] <seb128> jackpot51, report bugs on launchpad?
[22:30] <seb128> jbicha, I didn't follow, we need MIRs for new ibus things? is that for locales that were used fcitx?
[22:31] <seb128> mozc is already in main, why do you need desktop-bugs subscribed?
[22:37] <seb128> same for ibus-table-chinese
[22:54] <jbicha> seb128: oh that makes sense since they were 'supported', but shouldn't there be a bug subsciber? I was looking at component-mismatches
[23:11] <Trevinho> kenvandine: hey, can you give a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/vertical-linked-buttons-tuning/+merge/330958 ?