[07:17] <diplo> Morning all
[08:22] <MooDoo> howdy all
[08:26] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:31] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon how are you on this fine day?
[08:32] <brobostigon> hi MooDoo, not bad and you?
[08:32] <MooDoo> yes ok thanks :D just figured out some 4gl code which was doing my head in  :)
[08:32] <brobostigon> :)
[09:08] <foobarry> now all my printouts come with an extra page "save pdf to evernote"
[09:58] <daftykins> they're murdering trees :(
[10:02] <MooDoo> huh?
[10:04] <daftykins> what foobarry said, some addon pointing to evernote wasting paper
[10:04] <MooDoo> ah right :)
[10:56] <foobarry> https://imgur.com/a/ocKJx had to use windows for expenses form. can't click sign out or cancel
[10:56] <foobarry> its just stuck there
[10:56] <foobarry> and its a VDI
[10:56] <MooDoo> windows is driving me insane at the moment.
[10:57] <daftykins> in what way?
[10:58] <MooDoo> machine hangs, inability to restart [last time i restarted the machine it took 45 mins, ok ok so it's insider build but wow i'm starting to loathe windows
[10:58] <daftykins> that's definitely akin to running 17.10 or 18.04 and moaning :)
[10:59] <daftykins> neither are normal setups really
[11:00] <daftykins> ah and the castle cannon sounds mid-day
[11:03] <MooDoo> I'm using 17.10 and it's really good at the moment, not had a single problem with it ;d
[11:03] <MooDoo> :)
[11:03] <daftykins> that's why i said the next, since that's had some time ;)
[11:04] <MooDoo> I may look stupid, but not ready for 18:04, normally upgrade a month before release as it's generally quite good by then....
[13:31] <diddledan> http://bit.ly/2eKOFpa
[13:31] <diddledan> daftykins: kitten-porn: https://twitter.com/bonebonebot/status/910496627932254214
[13:32] <MooDoo> it's laughable they will remove encryption
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> they're clueless eejits who have no idea what it's for
[13:33] <diddledan> also: http://www.politico.eu/article/theresa-may-tech-firms-must-remove-extremist-content-within-two-hours/
[13:33] <zmoylan-pi> but these days i just don't store my data in the cloud... too many unknowns as to who can access it
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi> but cheques still need 3 working days to clear?
[13:36]  * SuperMatt sighs
[13:36] <zmoylan-pi> they simply don't understand the sheer amount of data that needs to be processed...
[13:37] <daftykins> diddledan: i'd hate to see the injuries trying to put an outfit on my cat
[13:37] <diddledan> how much video is posted onto youtube per minute these days?
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> i was listening to bbc podcast on chinese firewall... 2m people employed in making it work...
[13:37] <SuperMatt> I don't care about the removal of extremist content, my issue is the fact that there will be so many false positives caught in the crossfire with no easy means to challenge them.
[13:37] <zmoylan-pi> lots of people false reporting stuff they disagree with, knowing it will be taken down under stupid law with no repurcussion
[13:38] <SuperMatt> Not to mention it's targetting a symptom of extremism, rather than the cause
[13:38] <diddledan> SuperMatt: exactly. the tweet I got that link from says rougly "T.May wants censorship by algorithm"
[13:38] <zmoylan-pi> https://act.openmedia.org/FiveEyesSaveEncryption
[13:38] <SuperMatt> If I type cat in to google photos, google does a great job of finding cats. The thing is though, it doesn't matter if there are false positives
[13:38] <zmoylan-pi> whoops wrong channel, sorry
[13:39] <diddledan> you just have to look at the problem LGBTQIA+ videos on youtube being demonetised just for mentioning the word "lesbian" in the title
[13:39] <SuperMatt> that's sucky
[13:39] <daftykins> D:
[13:39] <daftykins> how rude
[13:39] <diddledan> when challenged a youtube rep said "we have no idea why they're demonetised. it's not a corporate decision" (paraphrase)
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> were there's a system there are feckers who will game that system for malice and profit
[13:40] <SuperMatt> !swearing
[13:40] <diddledan> flippers?
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> which is why i used the word fecker... so polite even a priest in ireland would say it...
[13:40] <diddledan> frak
[13:40] <SuperMatt> you're right!
[13:40] <SuperMatt> I misread it, and I'm sorry
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> np
[13:41] <diddledan> haha
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> it also has a nice guttural pronounciation you can get behind...
[15:19] <m0nkey_> I never, ever, EVER want to work on legacy perl and php code EVER AGAIN!
[15:35] <DJones> Hmmh, the moment when you realise that your new job involves selling drugs in bulk and you have to spend 2 days researching exporting reefers........
[15:36] <DJones> Quite why the sale of controlled drugs would be done via what is called "reefers" is beyond me
[15:38] <DJones> Just seems a very wierd coincidence
[15:38]  * DJones waits for dr danfish
[15:40] <diplo> I have to work with legacy perl and sometimes php4 code at times :(
[15:42] <DJones> In a way, I'm glad I stopped programming when COBOL went out of fashion, if not I'd be working for a bank writing security patches for 30 year old code
[15:43] <DJones> All I can remember about it now is "Identification division"
[15:44] <DJones> !new S A Stephenson - [Convergence 01] - Rogue (epub).rar
[15:44] <DJones> Grr
[15:48] <diplo> hah DJones
[15:54] <diddledan> DJones: was that meant for <insert warez channel here>?
[15:54] <diddledan> (am I showing my age by referring to warez?)
[15:58] <DJones> Heh
[17:11] <daftykins> diddledan: not at all!
[17:11] <daftykins> well ok maybe a bit
[19:42] <MooDoo> evening all
[19:44] <daftykins> \o
[20:14] <diddledan> do the winkelvoss twins refer to their bits as their winkelvoss?
[20:16] <daftykins> it's when they need to take a tinkle that things get confusing
[20:16] <diddledan> and if it was small, it'ld be dinkle
[20:18] <diddledan> apparently the iphone OMG-X, which isn't available, is going to be not available..!? https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/20/iphone-x-production-further-delays/
[20:19] <MooDoo> who cares it's apple, I know loads of people that's downloaded iOS 11 and it's bricked their phone...ooops
[20:19] <daftykins> and reviewers of the new watch have found they can't connect to LTE services ;D
[20:19] <diddledan> \o/ doorstop!
[20:19] <diddledan> I read that the LTE issue is actually a long-standing watch problem that nobody noticed until LTE came along
[20:20] <daftykins> o rry
[20:23] <diddledan> here ya go: https://www.imore.com/how-your-apple-watch-connects-wi-fi-networks-when-away-your-iphone
[20:26] <daftykins> thank ye
[20:29] <daftykins> i've not heard the term 'interstitial login' before
[20:29] <daftykins> only 'captive portal'
[20:30] <diddledan> interstitial is an advertising/marketing term
[21:14] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/shatterfront/status/816065700577972224
[21:17] <daftykins> XD
[22:40] <diddledan> where's mount.msdos or mount.fat?!
[22:40] <diddledan> dosfstools is installed
[22:41] <diddledan> apt-file says no package is available to provide it