[08:48] <salty-horse> hi. I'm on artful with gnome flashback. I noticed that the window manager style(?) has changed from 17.04. when the window's maximized, the rightmost pixel of the screen isn't in the window, so things like dragging the scrollbar in firefox doesn't work. (however, the "window close" button in the top decoration does work on the right-most pixel). can something be done about this? I'm not sure which component is responsible
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> anyone else got this after recent updates?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1718653
[15:19] <Faux> Can anyone run perf (sudo perf record -a -g sleep 2)? I have an up-to-date Artful install (that's been through a hell of upgrades) where perf fails like LP #1702056: /usr/lib/linux-tools/4.13.0-11-generic/perf: error while loading shared libraries: libbfd-2.29-system.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:13] <uebera||> Hi. On Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, it's not possible to use OverlayFS in conjunction w/ ZFS (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18). Has/is this been/being addressed recently/in the near future? AuFS (4.x-rcN-20160111/Kernel 4.10.0-35.39~16.04.1) works, but chokes on GlusterFS volumes, so a ZFS+GlusterFS combination is currently impossible. Sigh.
[16:14] <nacc> uebera||: is there a bug?
[16:18] <uebera||> Good question. As far as I see, nobody has reported this at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/ (there are two other overlayfs related problems). Guess I need to file a new bug...
[16:19] <nacc> that would be my first step, yeah
[17:47] <cajhne> Hi folks. I'm trying to turn off the dash to dock extension in 17.10
[17:48] <cajhne> it seems to strangely be already off.
[17:48] <cajhne> Or at least the switch is, yet the dock is still there.
[17:48] <cajhne> Known bug or?
[17:49] <cajhne> extension called "Ubuntu dock"
[17:49] <cajhne> visible in gnome-tweak-tool
[19:28] <Bashing-om> !info firefox
[19:29] <kiroma> Why has Firefox been reverted to version 50 in Artful?
[19:30] <kiroma> I swear to god if I get redirected 4th time...
[19:30] <brainwash> reverted? it has been stuck with 50 since the beginning
[19:30] <kiroma> Oh
[19:30] <brainwash> a newer version was available in -proposed all the time
[19:31] <kiroma> Okay thanks.
[19:31] <brainwash> but it was never moved from there due to some build errors on certain architectures
[19:31] <brainwash> yeah. kinda sad
[19:31] <kiroma> Zesty and Xenial though have 55 in upstream
[19:31] <kiroma> Do they not have the same issue?
[19:35] <brainwash> bug 1715030
[19:36] <kiroma> Oh thanks
[19:36] <brainwash> looks like the problem is present in xenial and zesty also
[19:37] <brainwash> but security actually matters on those releases, so firefox 55 was pushed to the users
[19:38] <kiroma> Ah I see.
[19:54] <cajhne> I'm trying to turn off the dash to dock extension in 17.10, but the switch is off even though the dock is still there...
[19:54] <cajhne> anyone else not able to turn off the dock extension?
[19:55] <cajhne> it's called "ubuntu dock" in tweak tool
[19:58] <brainwash> cajhne: bug 1713020
[20:06] <cajhne> thanks brainwash
[20:12] <cajhne> huh, I don't get it.. it's "not a bug" that there is a switch, flipped to the wrong position, and it's not possible to turn off the dock with it?
[20:15] <cajhne> That bug was marked "invalid" but it's clearly valid. Just read that whole page and there's nothing abouthow to turn off the ubuntu flvoured dash to dock
[20:17] <brainwash> cajhne: best to add a comment to the report
[20:18] <brainwash> or, ask in #ubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <cajhne> brainwash: eh, they already know about it and have marked it invalid.
[20:25] <cajhne> The work-around is to install dash to dock extension, set auto-hide, turn off dodge window, and set pressure threshold to 300
[20:25] <cajhne> then it pretty much acts like vanilla gnome again.
[20:26] <cajhne> Guess I'll add that to the comments.
[20:26] <brainwash> well yeah. however, maybe they could tweak it so that it's not confusing the user who tries to disable it
[20:27] <brainwash> or?
[20:41] <cajhne> brainwash: yea, I dunno. They know it's broken, they want to pretend like it's not. Whatever.
[20:41] <cajhne> I've added instructions for getting the dock back to how it is in vanilla gnome.
[20:42] <cajhne> I'm sure most people will probably not bother.
[20:44] <cajhne> The dock looks good and functions well enough, I just like a much cleaner desktop than most.
[20:45] <cajhne> I'm frankly jazzed as hell that nautilus got updated with the "new" multiple file rename stuff.
[20:45] <cajhne> the 5 second bootup time is nice as well. :)
[20:46] <cajhne> So it's not like they did a bad job, and I understand the decision. Just wish they could add one more option for "off"
[20:46] <cajhne> (I added that request to the bug at the end)
[20:47] <brainwash> suggestions are good and can make the difference
[20:47] <cajhne> Oh yea, and the new shade that hides what you were working on before you suspended your laptop... that has needed to happen for like 6years now.
[20:48] <cajhne> So it's finally not a security vulnerability anymore.
[20:48] <cajhne> (albeit a relatively minor one)
[20:48] <brainwash> didn't know about that
[20:49] <cajhne> yea, in the last (don't know how many) versions of ubuntu, if you suspended your laptop, it would show you the screen you were working on for up to several seconds before showing you the login. :P
[20:50] <brainwash> aha. ok, this sounds familiar
[20:50] <cajhne> it was more embarrassing than a real security risk.
[20:50] <cajhne> Privacy risk.
[20:51] <brainwash> common issue across different desktop environments, and even custom sessions
[20:51] <cajhne> But anyway, it's gone now in this ver of ubuntu (finally)
[20:51] <brainwash> cool :)
[20:51] <cajhne> Yea, really happy.
[20:51] <cajhne> have you tried out the new multi-file rename dialog in nautilus?
[20:52] <brainwash> no. personally I just run a very minimal ubuntu 17.10
[20:53] <cajhne> just select a few files (like photos from a camera), and hit F2 as if you were going to rename a file.
[20:53] <brainwash> from time to time I test the Ubuntu desktop though
[20:53] <cajhne> you should have nautilus. :)
[20:53] <brainwash> that sounds handy
[20:54] <cajhne> It is. It even shows you what the changes will look like before you hit okay.
[20:54] <brainwash> gnome 3 is in a much better shape now, but it took way too long to get there
[20:54] <cajhne> You can sequence them numerically automatically.
[20:54] <cajhne> Worth it.
[20:54] <cajhne> It's desktop-handling is second to none.
[20:55] <cajhne> And has been copied by both Apple and Microsoft in recent years.
[20:55] <cajhne> (Apple first, then MS)
[20:55] <cajhne> and Gnome still does it better.
[20:56] <cajhne> top-down desktops makes for the most intuitive priority list.
[20:56] <cajhne> It's excelent.
[20:57] <cajhne> anyway, thanks brainwash for your help. I'd have never found that bug.
[20:57] <brainwash> you're welcome cajhne 
[23:50] <freibooter> Hey there, anyone here?
[23:55] <freibooter> well, bye
[23:58] <valorie> pffff