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| didrocks | good morning | 05:30 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 05:47 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 05:49 |
| seb128 | re didrocks | 05:51 |
| jibel | good morning | 05:57 |
| seb128 | hey jibel | 06:04 |
| jibel | salut seb128 | 06:08 |
| seb128 | jibel, cups should be fixed in artful, let me know if you have the chance to try the update this morning | 06:09 |
| jibel | seb128, I tried the version in proposed yesterday and it worked fine | 06:12 |
| seb128 | great | 06:12 |
| seb128 | well it migrated 3 hours ago | 06:12 |
| seb128 | so we should be good | 06:12 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:13 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 06:13 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel, seb128 | 06:13 |
| didrocks | hey jibel | 06:13 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN | 06:13 |
| jibel | although I've a crash of evince when I print a specific document but I don't think it's related | 06:13 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:13 |
| seb128 | jibel, can you share the document? | 06:13 |
| seb128 | at least privately? | 06:13 |
| jibel | sure | 06:13 |
| seb128 | thanks | 06:13 |
| jibel | seb128, in your inbox | 06:17 |
| seb128 | jibel, thanks, I can confirm the segfault | 06:21 |
| seb128 | let me look a bit at the stacktrace/get debug info | 06:21 |
| seb128 | jibel, that nautilus segfault is specific to videos? | 06:36 |
| jibel | seb128, I couldn't reproduce with other types | 06:37 |
| seb128 | thanks | 06:37 |
| seb128 | indeed I can confirm | 06:37 |
| jibel | seb128, there is a reference to vaapi in the trace | 06:37 |
| seb128 | well I just did it on a mp3 | 06:37 |
| jibel | didn't crash for me with an mp3 | 06:37 |
| seb128 | so I think it's a bug in the totem extension | 06:37 |
| seb128 | ah | 06:38 |
| seb128 | well it does for me | 06:38 |
| seb128 | I'm going to assume it's the same bug in totem | 06:38 |
| seb128 | well at least start from that one and then test with videos | 06:38 |
| jibel | there is a similar crash in shotwell | 06:57 |
| seb128 | jibel, when doing what? | 07:07 |
| jibel | seb128, reported in LP | 07:12 |
| jibel | I didn't try to reproduce it yet | 07:12 |
| seb128 | k | 07:13 |
| jibel | in a call right now, i'll come back to it later | 07:13 |
| jibel | seb128, actually I just opened shotwell under wayland and it crashed | 07:16 |
| seb128 | jibel, evince segfault reported upstream as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102922 | 07:18 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 102922 in pdf backend "evince abrt on a double free in cairo_truetype_font_destroy" [Normal,New] | 07:18 |
| jibel | thanks | 07:19 |
| seb128 | jibel, shotwell works fine under wayland here but I don't have lot of photos on that machine | 07:31 |
| seb128 | oh | 07:32 |
| seb128 | could be videos there as well | 07:32 |
| * seb128 going to try that a bit later | 07:32 | |
| seb128 | but I need to step out for some hours, shifting those to the evening today | 07:33 |
| jibel | seb128, I uploaded the crash to bug 1718595 lets see if it 's the same trace | 07:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718595 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "shotwell crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718595 | 07:33 |
| seb128 | thanks | 07:33 |
| Laney | moin | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:11 |
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| Laney | sup didrocks | 08:22 |
| jibel | seb128, shotwell crashes in the video reader | 08:25 |
| didrocks | Laney: nothing special, and you? | 08:25 |
| Laney | mmm not much | 08:29 |
| Laney | the sky is about 10cm off the ground today | 08:29 |
| didrocks | waow, blue sky here and sun :) | 08:31 |
| jibel | there used to be a setting to start a vpn automatically when a specific connection comes up. Where is it? | 08:35 |
| jibel | I cannot find it in the network or vpn settings | 08:35 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so, Laney suggested to remove the s390x nux/unity build from the archive... | 08:42 |
| Trevinho | hey by the way :-) | 08:42 |
| Trevinho | seb128: you can do that or who can? | 08:44 |
| * didrocks needs to add multiple 'Add printers button' as the g-c-c panel is using a gtkstack | 08:45 | |
| didrocks | waow, system config printer is buggy in term of refresh with our theme | 08:46 |
| didrocks | drawing artefacts and such | 08:46 |
| didrocks | ah, the language support button isn't aligned right, let's ensure we align right all additional buttons as I suggested | 08:53 |
| * didrocks cleans up the .ui patch as well for language support | 08:53 | |
| didrocks | (useless placeholders) | 08:54 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: hey, you can also help with removal of nux/unity builds for s360x? :) | 09:02 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: sure, did you check all rdepends? | 09:02 |
| didrocks | just open a bug and list all binary packages that needs to be removed please :) | 09:03 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah, it only has unity | 09:03 |
| Trevinho | well or... unity itself let me see | 09:03 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: still, list all binaries package, there is libunity-core* and so on, please | 09:04 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: on what project? | 09:05 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: whatever, can against unity source package | 09:05 |
| Trevinho | It was probably just easier to disable the tests :-D | 09:05 |
| didrocks | and add all binary packages, ensuring there is no rdepends | 09:05 |
| Trevinho | ehm, less time consusming | 09:05 |
| didrocks | as you wish, but I need to list them all to remove them | 09:06 |
| didrocks | so, be nice to the person who is going to remove them :p | 09:06 |
| Trevinho | ok | 09:06 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/1718615 | 09:14 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1718615 in nux (Ubuntu) "Nux doesn't build proprerly in s390x arch" [Undecided,New] | 09:14 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: see, asking you was useful, there were the lenses :) | 09:16 |
| * Trevinho hopes not to have included too much :-D | 09:17 | |
| Trevinho | or to less | 09:17 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: done! | 09:19 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: well, if you followed carefully the rdepends, it should be fine :) | 09:19 |
| oSoMoN | when I upgrade my artful amd64 VM (vbox, was up-to-date yesterday), the VM boots but gdm fails to display the login screen | 09:30 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: the french forums report it's since the kernel upgrade to 4.13.0-11-12, maybe try downgrading it? | 09:45 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, thanks, trying that | 09:46 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, try to disable wayland in gdm | 09:50 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yes I did but... Some are all | 09:51 |
| Trevinho | Trevinho: thanks by the way | 09:51 |
| Trevinho | Lol | 09:51 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, how do I do that? I don't have a login screen, can't select a session | 09:51 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: thanks to you :-) | 09:52 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, boot in recovery and uncomment #WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf | 09:53 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, ack, trying to downgrade (or rather not upgrade from my previous snapshot) the kernel first, then I'll try that | 09:56 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, not upgrading the kernel works | 09:57 |
| didrocks | I guess you can drop a line on #ubuntu-kernele :p | 09:58 |
| didrocks | kernel* | 09:58 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: hey https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2892 needs to be published but it doesn't go through because of missing build in s390x. We removed it from the archive, but still status gives errors | 09:59 |
| jibel | didrocks, back to the keybindings topic from yesterday ccsm has little to do in the story. I did a fresh zesty install, applied all the updates, upgraded to artful and all the keybindings from unity7 are preserved and considered non-default under gnome-shell | 10:19 |
| jibel | didrocks, eg ctrl+super+up/down to maximize/restore instead of super+up/down | 10:19 |
| didrocks | jibel: interesting, can you look if the keys are considered as default before the upgrade (and then after the upgrade?) | 10:20 |
| didrocks | jibel: there is nothing I know of (maybe Unity/Compiz does?) writing those keys | 10:20 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: you may know? ^ | 10:20 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: hm, are those really removed from the archive? | 10:20 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: I don't see any publishing history that would point that either nux or compiz got removed for s390x from artful | 10:22 |
| didrocks | sil2100: they, were but indeed, no publishing history for the removal, see bug #1718615 | 10:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718615 in nux (Ubuntu) "Nux doesn't build proprerly in s390x arch" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718615 | 10:25 |
| didrocks | sil2100: archive skew? I can give a retry | 10:25 |
| didrocks | nope | 10:25 |
| didrocks | $ ./remove-package -a s390x -b libnux-4.0-0 libnux-4.0-dev libunity-core-6.0-9 libunity-core-6.0-dev unity unity-lens-video unity-lens-music unity-lens-files unity-lens-applications unity-china-music-scope -m "desktop isn't a target for s390x Bug #1718615" | 10:25 |
| didrocks | Removing packages from artful: | 10:25 |
| didrocks | Could not find binaries for 'libnux-4.0-0/None' in artful . Exiting. | 10:25 |
| didrocks | -> so done for the archive tool | 10:25 |
| sil2100 | hm, I think bileto is taking the info from LP so maybe it's still a bit too soon for Bileto | 10:26 |
| sil2100 | Maybe it'll notice once LP notices | 10:27 |
| sil2100 | Let's give it some more time | 10:28 |
| sil2100 | btw. last time I remember we wanted to remove unity etc. from s390x there was some opposition (can't remember what though) | 10:28 |
| Gargoyle | Found a sneaky bug. Might be able to fill out a proper bug report later with some guidance, but thought I would see if anyone else can recreate. | 11:24 |
| Gargoyle | In settings->devices->printers, click the settings icon for a printer and choose "details". The details "modal" opens with virtually no title bar. making it almost impossible to close. | 11:25 |
| Gargoyle | I was just about able to right click on the 2 or 3 pixels of menu bar and choose close. | 11:26 |
| Gargoyle | https://www.dropbox.com/s/88wh5vcpvq9e1z9/Screenshot%20from%202017-09-21%2012-26-23.png?dl=0 | 11:27 |
| andyrock | hey seb128 regarding the urgent notification | 11:31 |
| andyrock | am I free regarding the design? | 11:31 |
| Gargoyle | 17.10, updates last installed in Tuesday (I think) | 11:31 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hey, what urgent notifications? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, sorry I have shifted hours today, seems like others helped you with the archive bits though? | 11:35 |
| jbicha | Gargoyle: that's LP: #1712011 | 11:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1712011 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Unable to close Printer properties" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1712011 | 11:43 |
| jbicha | Gargoyle: Esc key is a workaround to close the dialog | 11:44 |
| andyrock | seb128: the one you get when an app requires attention | 11:45 |
| andyrock | it's not so used | 11:45 |
| andyrock | and I don't think it's high priority | 11:45 |
| jbicha | Gargoyle: it's an unusual bug because it doesn't happen with GNOME's Adwaita theme | 11:45 |
| andyrock | but I can deliver it by the end of today without problems | 11:45 |
| jibel | Trevinho, keybindings bug 1718648 | 11:56 |
| ubot5 | bug 1718648 in gsettings-desktop-schemas (Ubuntu) "unity7 keybindings are preserved after upgrade and considered as non-default keybindings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718648 | 11:56 |
| seb128 | andyrock, sorry I changed location, yes for that just do whatever looks fine to you, we can change it later if we want | 12:23 |
| Gargoyle | jbicha, Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can add anything useful to that bug. | 12:36 |
| Gargoyle | Is there another bug to say that printing just doesn't work full stop? | 13:11 |
| doko | is there a way to align the workspaces horizontally? | 13:12 |
| jibel | Gargoyle, it should be working today. Make sure you have the latest version of cups-filters | 13:16 |
| Gargoyle | jibel, Just spotted that in the pending updates, running apt now! :-) | 13:16 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, do you have that in a silo? | 13:19 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, didrocks: to follow up on my kernel issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1718679 | 13:43 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1718679 in linux (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 4.13.0-11.12 in artful amd64 VM breaks display on wayland" [Undecided,New] | 13:43 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, did you ask about it on #ubuntu-kernel? | 13:46 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I did, sforshee asked me to file a bug and said he would look into it | 13:47 |
| seb128 | good | 13:47 |
| jbicha | seb128: LP: #1718643 is intentional behavior upstream. It can be disabled by turning off Tweaks>Windows>Attach Modal Dialogs | 13:48 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1718643 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Inability to move child dialogues separate from parent applicaitons" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718643 | 13:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I know | 13:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, still, if users think it's a buggy behaviour they should tell upstream | 13:49 |
| seb128 | the feedback might lead upstream to think their design has a flaw if that's the case | 13:49 |
| seb128 | which can't happen without feedback | 13:49 |
| jbicha | I don't think that's very useful here… but ok | 13:49 |
| seb128 | yeah, bug trackers might not be the best place to give feedback on the experience | 13:50 |
| seb128 | but we don't have a better place for that? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | feel free to redirect them to a mailing list if you think it's more appropriate | 13:50 |
| seb128 | jbicha, anyway I don't care much either way, my rational was just to try to provide feedback to upstream when users think there is a problem with how things are designed | 13:52 |
| jbicha | in this case, I think the behavior is so fundamental to GNOME that it's unlikely to be changed there | 13:53 |
| seb128 | they can't wontfix it, it's fine | 13:53 |
| seb128 | can* | 13:53 |
| jibel | today my screen is not locked on resume from suspend, anyone else experienced this? | 13:56 |
| seb128 | I don't | 13:57 |
| jibel | hmm, sept. 21 15:54:56 herm gnome-shell[2358]: Screen lock is locked down, not locking | 13:57 |
| jibel | from the journal | 13:57 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, jibel : I'm seeing the LO snap crash when exporting a presentation to pdf, and there's a cairo_surface_destroy assertion failed message in the console just before the crash, wondering if that could be related to the bug you filed earlier this morning? | 13:59 |
| oSoMoN | I need to debug it further anyway | 14:00 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, could be, difficult to say without at least a backtrace | 14:00 |
| oSoMoN | yup, I'll try to get one | 14:01 |
| jibel | disable-lock-screen is set to false, everything looks normal, weird | 14:01 |
| seb128 | jibel, well the message suggests that it thinks the screen is locked when it's not? | 14:01 |
| seb128 | GNOME 3.26 is a bit of a disaster :-/ | 14:01 |
| jibel | seb128, yes something along the line, or that it is disabled | 14:02 |
| jibel | which is not the case | 14:02 |
| seb128 | next cycle we should perhaps avoid the new version | 14:02 |
| jibel | and obviously not locked since I'm typing :) | 14:02 |
| jbicha | seb128: the biggest problems are gnome-shell and gnome-control-center; unfortunately those are key parts of new GNOME versions :( | 14:02 |
| seb128 | seems like they didn't really ramp up their quality since we switched | 14:02 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right, gnome-shell especially those segfault, resolution changes being dismissed | 14:03 |
| jbicha | other apps generally are fine | 14:03 |
| jibel | gnome-shell and gnome-control-center top 2 on errors.u.c in terms of crashes | 14:03 |
| seb128 | it's even over me how they can release a "stable version" with those issues | 14:03 |
| seb128 | especially in a wayland world | 14:03 |
| seb128 | where a g-s segfault takes your session down | 14:04 |
| seb128 | they should really care more about fixing bugs or at least keep on top of what gets reported | 14:04 |
| seb128 | anyway | 14:04 |
| seb128 | </rant> | 14:04 |
| jibel | yeah, now I switch to a vt first, start byobu, then log in gnome-shell and connect to the terminal, otherwise it brings everything down on crahs | 14:04 |
| jibel | next cycle we should only focus on stability | 14:05 |
| seb128 | and stay away from gnome-shell updates | 14:05 |
| seb128 | I wonder what would be the right venue to tell them they have a quality problem and that they should get on it | 14:06 |
| jbicha | GNOME devs hate it when we mix & match GNOME versions but there are good reasons… | 14:06 |
| seb128 | right | 14:07 |
| jbicha | I wish GNOME did LTS releases | 14:12 |
| mdeslaur | https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/local-man-claims-gnome-is-root-cause-of-world-problems/ | 14:12 |
| jbicha | although that can backfire a bit for initial stability as devs rush to cram features in at the last moment | 14:12 |
| seb128 | jibel, did you confirm that "wayland doesn't work in vm with new kernel" issue? | 14:19 |
| seb128 | like is that impacting everyone? | 14:19 |
| seb128 | is that specific to vms? | 14:19 |
| jbicha | at least GNOME 3.28 will still target mozjs52 so that's one less thing changing | 14:19 |
| seb128 | right | 14:21 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: no... I can do it or you can. As you wish | 14:28 |
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| jibel | seb128, no I didn't | 14:54 |
| jibel | seb128, it works for me. The main problem is one I reported a while ago with qxl driver | 14:54 |
| seb128 | ah | 14:54 |
| jibel | seb128, it's specific to virtual box | 14:54 |
| jibel | it works in qemu | 14:54 |
| jibel | yeah, last image with kernel 4.13 works in qemu | 14:56 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, did you try to disable wayland in gdm? | 14:56 |
| jibel | + latest kernel | 14:56 |
| jibel | to narrow the problme down | 14:57 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, I did (see bug report), and that "fixed" the issue indeed | 14:59 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, k, thanks | 15:00 |
| jibel | another one in the wayland queue | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho, i can create it | 15:09 |
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| oSoMoN | https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-5-4-1/2217 | 15:33 |
| oSoMoN | and https://plus.google.com/+OlivierTilloy/posts/aqMo6c9qrQE | 15:36 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, well done on the libreoffice snap update! | 16:10 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 16:12 |
| oSoMoN | let's see if the feedback is good enough to promote to stable sometime next week | 16:12 |
| oSoMoN | chrisccoulson, chromium-browser fails to build in artful because of changes in glibc, I have a patch for those, let me push that to a PPA near you | 16:32 |
| oSoMoN | actually it's gonna have to be 61.0.3163.91, the latest stable | 16:34 |
| oSoMoN | chrisccoulson, chromium-browser 61.0.3163.91-0ubuntu1.1374 currently building in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-stable/+packages , it should be safe to copy to artful-proposed as I've already tested that patch against the beta and dev branches, and the build is already past the point where it failed | 17:15 |
| Laney | see you later | 17:16 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: Laney tried to publish it actually (https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/2892/publish/2/), but it failed... Should I clearout the silo or are there other tricks? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, we should probably just pocket copy | 18:53 |
| oSoMoN | g’night all | 18:55 |
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