[00:26] <delinquentme> is there a way to capture the state of a number of terminal windows, and their sizes, locations and current commands?
[00:26] <delinquentme> I want something that will capture the state of a number of terminal windows and that lets me re-open them all with their current states
[00:34] <Fretegi> delinquentme, so just trying have say 5 terminals reopen all at once?
[00:35] <delinquentme> Fretegi, Partially, yes.  Including the terminal height / width ... position on the desktop and the commands they're currently running
[00:36] <Fretegi> delinquentme, well a workaround for that could be the program terminator
[00:37] <delinquentme> Fretegi, link to the package?
[00:38] <Fretegi> delinquentme, lets you split many terminals into one window that you can save as a layout.  so say 6 terminal windows.  and should remember the window position
[00:38] <Fretegi> apt-get install terminator
[00:39] <Fretegi> should be in the ubuntu repos, is for ubuntu-mate at least
[00:40] <Fretegi> delinquentme, https://gnometerminator.blogspot.com/p/introduction.html
[00:40] <Fretegi> that shows you a few screenshots that may be helpful
[00:40] <toothe> Submitted a bug report about systemtap, switched distros to Fedora....the end of an era :(
[00:41] <Fretegi> anyone here proficient with infinality-ultimate?
[00:44] <delinquentme> Fretegi, me gusta.
[00:44] <delinquentme> tyahkee
[00:44] <delinquentme> thankee*
[00:45] <Fretegi> delinquentme, that work out?
[00:45] <delinquentme> Fretegi, it looks promising ... but I need to put a pause on trying it out :D
[00:45] <Fretegi> delinquentme, gotcha.  yea its pretty snazzy, i think it will meet your needs once you create a layout :)
[00:46] <delinquentme> Is it pretty intuitive? or do I need a tutorial to get it sorted out?
[00:51] <Fretegi> delinquentme, stupid easy
[00:55] <sourceslayer> Hey
[00:56] <Fretegi> hi
[00:56] <sourceslayer> Is there anyway to automatically disable the lock screen when I have a PlayStation controller plugged in?
[00:56] <sourceslayer> and enable it when it's not plugged in?
[00:58] <Fretegi> maybe a config file somewhere for that but im not aware of it
[00:58] <sourceslayer> I was thinking I could use  a script to detect it (DBUS or maybe if SDL has some event for it), but I would prefer something *simpler*, as well as the fact that I don't really have a clue about DBUS
[00:59] <sourceslayer> Do you have any idea what the config file might be?
[00:59] <Fretegi> i dont unfortunately, perhaps someone here does
[00:59] <sourceslayer> Okay, thanks anyway. ")
[01:00] <Fretegi> sorry i couldnt help :)
[01:00] <sourceslayer> It's fine lol
[01:00] <Marikos> Hey there.  Dusting off an old machine that had 14.10 on it.  I was able to use EOL Upgrades to dist-upgrade to 15.04, now I'm kind of stuck
[01:00] <nacc> Marikos: just reinstall it
[01:00] <Fretegi> so screen just going to lock mode after a period of time?
[01:00] <nacc> Marikos: otehwries you still need to do the same to go 15.10 then 16.04
[01:01] <Marikos> old-releases 404's and main says I'm up to date
[01:01] <Marikos> That's the problem, I'm stuck.
[01:02] <Marikos> I don;t mind taking the long road to get to 17.04
[01:02] <sourceslayer> I just got an idea, I could use cron to run every few minutes and then run a pygame script to check and run the appropriate gnome command. Thanks anyway!
[01:02] <Marikos> this machine doesn't have an optical drive, and I don't have any spare usb sticks
[01:02] <Marikos> At least none handy
[01:02] <sourceslayer> Fretegi: Sorry, I didn't see that you responded, but yeah, that's exactly what happens
[01:03] <sourceslayer> If you have a better solution than mine, I'd appreciate that.
[01:04] <Fretegi> sourceslayer, interesting solution.  but you could also just quickly set it to not lock prior to gaming and then reset the setting to lock
[01:06] <Fretegi> sourceslayer, forgive my ignorance but cannot remember the name of the settings tool
[01:06] <Fretegi> i run ubuntu-mate, things slightly different
[01:07] <Fretegi> soemthing settings probably ha
[01:07] <sourceslayer> Ah, that's a setting in the standard settings menu
[01:07] <Fretegi> should be
[01:07] <sourceslayer> I'm just sure that I would forget to enable it again and that wouldn't be good as I'm around people who can be rather nosy at times.
[01:08] <Fretegi> im just not familiar at all with unity, if thats what your using.. i mean i have goofed around and figured out what i needed, but went with mate, more like gnome2 and im most familiar with that
[01:09] <sourceslayer> Well, I'll probably be switching to MATE since Unity is discontinued
[01:09] <sourceslayer> See you later, thanks for the help
[01:09] <Fretegi> your welcome
[01:12] <Bashing-om> Marikos: Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades . What is the upgrade path set to ( Prompt=??? ) .
[01:14] <Marikos> Bashing-om: It's set to normal
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Marikos: And have you reset the sources.list for the 15.10 upgrade next ?
[01:16] <Marikos> Bashing-om: I tried doing that, however all I got were 404's when I did apt update
[01:17] <Marikos> old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is specifically missing vivid releases
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Marikos: ouch. Sorry no further ideas on my part .
[01:21] <bazhang> Marikos, contact a LUG/loco near you and get them to write you one
[01:21] <Marikos> Bashing-om: no worries. not a huge deal, this is a utility laptop I pulled out of mothballs because it has a phstical eth interface
[01:22] <bazhang> !loco | Marikos
[01:22] <Marikos> bazhang: I probably have one around here somewhere, was just trying to avoid wiping this box, mainly because leaving it sit for a while is easier than resetting everything up XD
[01:24] <Marikos> There's actually a group here in NJ, doesn't seem super active though...
[01:24] <Marikos> my old LUG seems to have disbanded
[01:25] <bazhang> Marikos, if you read thta link, you'll see that some have channels here on irc as well
[01:26] <Marikos> I'll check it out
[01:26] <Marikos> Thanks :)
[01:26] <bazhang> np
[03:27] <Sinopsis> completely new to linux, trying to add a new drive to a fresh install...when i type blkid, i dont see it listed, but i see it listed if i do lshw -class disk, how do i get the uuid to put in fstab if it doesnt show in blkid
[03:29] <peet> Sinopsis , sudo blkid?
[03:30] <Sinopsis> yea, doesnt show up
[03:30] <Sinopsis> if it makes a difference, the drives probably have partitions on them already out of another box, not sure if it was windows or *nix
[03:31] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: ' sudo fdisk -lu ' see the drive ?
[03:34] <Sinopsis> no
[03:35] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: check the cable and power to the drive . also is it seen by bios when booting up ?
[03:36] <Sinopsis> it shows up in bios and like i said, if i do lshw -class disk
[03:38] <Jantz> dreamon__: ??
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: If fdisk does not see it, there is a problem . stick the drive in a Windows box ??
[03:41] <Sinopsis> if i have it in the box during install, it sees it fine, i'm just trying to add it after the fact to learn how
[03:43] <TopRope> does it see the drive in the bios of the machine
[03:43] <Sinopsis> yes
[03:44] <Sinopsis> whhich is why it also shows up when I do lshw -C disk
[03:53] <afidegnum> hello, pls i m in trouble, i m trying to run a php file on a localhost but i m still facing error, can anyone please assist? here is my config at `sites-available` folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/25584061/
[03:57] <Sinopsis> so, after using gdisk, i can see that they were microsoft hybrid partitions, i destroyed them and created a new one and now it shows in fdisk -l, but still not in blkid
[03:59] <TopRope> afidegnum: Sinopsis is having hdd issues
[03:59] <afidegnum> ???
[03:59] <afidegnum> that, i m not much familiar with it
[04:00] <afidegnum> Sinopsis: how did you format the HDD? what type of partition did you give it ?
[04:00] <TopRope> well was letting you know so you did not think he was talkig to you
[04:00] <Sinopsis> its a drive out of an old server, not even sure what was on it...used gdisk to delete the "corrupt" partition, now trying to use parted to partition it
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: "sudo wipefs /dev/sda". Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) and their offsets.
[04:01] <Sinopsis> i think i was making progress, trying to use parted now and was about to create the partition and it warned me that it wasn't optimal
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: oich .. replace /sda with the correct target drove .
[04:01] <Sinopsis> how do i get that
[04:02] <Sinopsis> wipefs lists 0x200 gpt
[04:03] <Sinopsis> so...wipefs --all /dev/sda ?
[04:04] <Sinopsis> hope so, because i just did it :)
[04:05] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Ouch ! Is not sda the system drive ???
[04:05] <TopRope> is that the only drive in the sys and your running on the live cd?
[04:05] <Sinopsis> for some reason now
[04:05] <Sinopsis> *no
[04:05] <Sinopsis> sdb is for some reason
[04:06] <Sinopsis> what label type should i create now after wiping it? gpt?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Not teally . but depends . a storage drive with lots of large files? then yes GPT has some advantages over msdos .
[04:12] <Sinopsis> well, what i want to do is after i figure out what i'm doing with this one drive, then add 7 more and create raid 5 array for my security camera system in the house
[04:12] <Sinopsis> the files will be a few 100mb each as i have it configured for each camera to save files in 15 min increments
[04:13] <Sinopsis> so...msdos or gpt?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: GPT will be somewhat faster .
[04:14] <Sinopsis> ok....thats what i did, then i ran 'sudo parted -a optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%'
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: (4096 block size )
[04:14] <Sinopsis> and then ran sudo blkid and i see my disk now...
[04:15] <Sinopsis> '/dev/sda1: PARTLABEL="primary" PARTUUID="1fdad7d5-91c5-444d-9261-2522acb7f49d"'
[04:15] <Sinopsis> i put this in my /etc/fstab
[04:15] <Sinopsis> ' UUID="1fdad7d5-91c5-444d-9261-2522acb7f49d" /nvr ext4 0 2 '
[04:15] <Sinopsis> and tried to mount it,and get an error that it cant find it
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: :)   .. Windows meta data I guess the cause here .
[04:16] <Sinopsis> didnt we purge that with wipefs
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Yes wipefs should have .. what now is the mount point for the drive ?
[04:17] <Sinopsis>  /nvr
[04:18] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Does it exist ' ls -al /nvr ' ?
[04:19] <Sinopsis> not sure what you mean....i did sudo mkdir /nvr
[04:19] <Sinopsis> that command returns total 8, with . and .. lines
[04:21] <Sinopsis> when i change the line in fstab to PARTUUID, i get a different error
[04:21] <Sinopsis> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[04:21] <Sinopsis>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:21] <Sinopsis> dmesg | tail returns [ 4576.574493] EXT4-fs (sda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Let's mint the drive from teminal, see what results . the drive still seen as sda ? with a sda1 as the partition target ?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> mount/mint
[04:24] <Sinopsis> one sec, that command i used earlier...what kind of file system did it create, because it wasn't specified on the command line
[04:24] <Sinopsis> 'sudo parted -a optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%'
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /nvr ' .
[04:25] <Sinopsis> sec, need to recreate the partition
[04:27] <Sinopsis> i get the same error i posted above
[04:28] <Sinopsis> [ 4939.012393] EXT4-fs (sda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[04:28] <TopRope> gonna use this drive for cctv recordings?
[04:28] <Sinopsis> yea
[04:28] <TopRope> ok
[04:32] <Sinopsis> it looks likee its a bad superblock
[04:33] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Never used parted to set up a drive . but looking at the man page I do not see where parted has the ability to format the file system type . That be gdisk for a GPT partition .
[04:34] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: " man parted " .
[04:34] <Sinopsis> like i said, i'm like a total f'n noob @ linux, parted is what came up when i googled how to do it, i'm open to other commands
[04:35] <cfhowlett> if gpt disk then gparted is your friend
[04:37] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: You'd be amazed at what I do not know . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive / In your case substitute gdisk for fdisk tool .
[04:40] <Sinopsis> i was missing the mkfs step i think
[04:40] <ArMedic> https://hastebin.com/weluzalozu.sql -- Why is my boot up sequence taking so dang long, how to fix it?
[04:42] <Sinopsis> yea, thats what it was, but now i need some clarification on the fstab stuff, its giving me an aerror about unrecognoized mount option 0
[04:42] <Sinopsis> what are the two #'s at the end of the line?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:42] <Sinopsis> UUID="6bcebd6b-09c2-4cf8-9448-cb46a2332524" /nvr ext4 0 0
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: Make sure that the UUID is still valid ! other wise , looks good .
[04:44] <ArMedic> 3 minutes and 29 seconds seems a long time for a lubuntu bootup.
[04:44] <Sinopsis> it didnt like the 0 0 at the end
[04:44] <Sinopsis> not sure what they do
[04:44] <Sinopsis> took them out and it mounted
[04:47]  * ArMedic shrugs
[04:48] <Sinopsis> thx for the help, now...its mounted, how can i see its free space ( i know it should be 100%, but how do i see it), if i do df -h, it's not listed
[04:48] <eb0t>  ah thanks kadoban
[04:52] <ArMedic> so if anyone is available to help, i'd appreciate it'
[04:52] <Ben64> Sinopsis: if it doesn't show up in df, then it isn't mounted
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab .
[04:54] <Sinopsis> it said it was mounted
[04:54] <Bashing-om> Sinopsis: ' mount ; is it mounted ?
[04:55] <eb0t> just use df -h
[04:55] <Sinopsis> sec, rebooting
[04:55] <eb0t> should show you space used and left
[04:56] <Sinopsis> last line of 'mount'
[04:56] <Sinopsis>  /dev/sdb on /nvr type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[04:57] <Sinopsis> df -h is showing it now though after rebooting
[04:57] <Ben64> probably wasn't mounted before rebooting
[04:57] <Sinopsis> going to purge these other disks and get them functioning, then i'll be back for help raiding them :)
[04:58] <eb0t> if you really want to learn about the in depth aspects of fstab and partitioning the look online at archlinux wiki fstab or partitioning
[04:58] <Bashing-om> !raid | Sinopsis
[04:58] <eb0t> after an hour you will be a genius on both subjects
[05:05] <ArMedic> c
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !ing
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !ping
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[05:49] <cfhowlett> hey ^3! lotuspsychje
[05:49] <peet> Ping Pong  Piong
[05:50] <peet> !ping
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> someone ever succeeded to update a tomtom or garmin on ubuntu?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> "what you ask has been done only once and even then, only in legend."
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: this old via 135 tomtom doesnt even want update on w7 here
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you think a !bug would help the community?
[05:59] <cfhowlett> I seem to recall that tomtom is about as functional as iphone/ipad on ubuntu, i.e minimally supported at best.
[06:01] <cfhowlett> I G'd "update tomtom linux".  doesn't look promising
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3628
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> think im gonna try this in a bit
[06:02] <cfhowlett> virtualbox + windows + tomtom app?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> yeah worth a try cfhowlett
[06:20] <FManTropyx> the Internet wants me to log in
[06:23] <cfhowlett> sounds like not an ubuntu issue.
[06:32] <FManTropyx> whoops
[06:33] <FManTropyx> I'll get back to you, when I have one, after I try to update - once I am logged into the Internet :P
[06:56] <ArMedic> Question.  Does Ubuntu support a way to disable the mouse on a laptop while typing.  My screen continually jumps around while typing because I am brushing the mouse.  I am currently using synclient fingerhigh=220 just to disbale it permanently but I have to alt+tab to get back to the terminal to lower it so i can use the mouse again
[06:56] <ArMedic> Maybe there is a simpler way than that.
[06:57] <ArMedic> I haven't found a working solution in my searches.
[06:59] <Ben64> ArMedic: my ubuntu laptops do that automatically : /
[06:59] <ArMedic> Ben64, must be nice
[07:00] <EriC^^> ArMedic: did you try settings > mouse >off while typing?
[07:00] <Ben64> actually, it's kind of annoying hah
[07:00] <ArMedic> EriC^^, I have no setting like that.
[07:01] <EriC^^> hmm neither do i, i think the other laptop has it or maybe it was a 14.04 option
[07:01] <Ben64> ArMedic: what version ubuntu are you on
[07:01] <ArMedic> Ben64, Lubuntu 17.04
[07:01] <Ben64> oh
[07:02] <Ben64> well i have a 16.04 laptop close to me, i'll see if i have a setting like that
[07:03] <Ben64> nope
[07:04] <hateball> ArMedic: should be able to do that using syndaemon, unless things have changed since I last used it
[07:11] <vanek> hello there
[07:12] <hateball> hello hello
[07:12] <vanek> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on an asus ux501 using the minimal image. it can't find the network card. lspci -v shows the network controller is loaded, and is using the driver iwlwifi, however when i attempt to tell the installer to use this driver it still fails - any idea what may be wrong?
[07:13] <vanek> btw, trying to install 17.04
[07:14] <EriC^^> vanek: fails how?
[07:14] <vanek> it simply jumps back to 'no ethernet card was detected' and offers me to choose a driver from a list
[07:16] <EriC^^> vanek: maybe it expects ethernet not wifi?
[07:16] <EriC^^> is there another option or something?
[07:17] <ArMedic> I found one that worked finally.  Installation of touchpad-indicator worked.  Whew.
[07:17] <TomyWork> has anyone found a solution for cifs mounts freezing applications that access them after they lost connection? the best solution i found would be to periodically "touch" them to keep them alive. maybe umount -l it if it takes more than 5s or something
[07:17] <vanek> EriC^^: sadly no, it is just the step for detect network card
[07:18] <vanek> i found an usb network adapter, lets see if it works
[07:19] <vanek> nope doesnt work either
[07:19] <vanek> the funny thing is, that if i use the live usb, it detects my wireless card and im able to connect to it
[07:39] <vanek> alright, if i found the driver to the usb adapter, how do i provide it to the minimal cd installer?
[07:44] <emajor> hi, why doesn't LibreOffice Writer have a dictionary for the spell checker by default? thanks
[07:54] <TomyWork> emajor try asking the libreoffice people that
[07:54] <TomyWork> type /join #libreoffice
[07:55] <emajor> thanks
[08:02] <hateball> oh they left
[08:02] <hateball> It relies on distro packages for hunspell
[08:38] <vanek> ahahah managed to get it
[08:38] <vanek> had to install a separate ubuntu vm on another box of mine with the same kernel as the installer uses
[08:39] <vanek> get the driver there, and move it via usb to the machine that is being installed
[08:39] <vanek> modprobe it during istallation, and now it finally finds the interface
[08:39] <vanek> i just dont understand why isnt the driver there during the installation
[08:44] <luc4> Hello! I'm trying to create a ubuntu installation on a usb device to use on my macbook. I'm currently using a persistent live and it works awesomely. But I would like to create a regular installation instead of a live. I created two partitions, one for the rootfs and the other for EFI. Is this correct? The macbook bootloader seems to detect the usb device. Now I need to properly populate the EFI partition to be able to boot the rootfs, but that is where I'm
[08:44] <luc4> failing. Can someone suggest a proper guide to accomplish this?
[08:46] <EriC^^> luc4: check here http://heeris.id.au/2014/ubuntu-plus-mac-pure-efi-boot/
[08:48] <luc4> EriC^^: ah, I was following that yesterday. So that should be the proper way?
[08:48] <luc4> or at least one proper way
[08:51] <EriC^> luc4: check here http://heeris.id.au/2014/ubuntu-plus-mac-pure-efi-boot/
[08:52] <luc4> EriC^^: also I noticed that this guide says the mac requires the EFI partition to be HFS+. I however formatted it vfat and the mac seems to read it properly anyway... is this normal? Also this guide reports the command "ls -l (hd2,gpt2)", but I get an error with the -l param. Isn't it weird?
[08:53] <EriC^^> luc4: kind of, some uefi don't support ls -l in grub i guess
[08:53] <luc4> EriC^^: ok, I'll get the UUID from another system
[08:53] <luc4> EriC^^: thanks!
[08:54] <EriC^^> luc4: no problem
[08:55] <luc4> EriC^^: also, as the USB is detected by the bootloader also when EFI is vfat, do you think I still need to format it HFS+?
[08:55] <EriC^^> luc4: i guess so, you also need to "bless" grub
[08:55] <luc4> "bless"?
[08:56] <EriC^^> yeah, there's some package called hfsbless or something, it's later in the guide
[08:56] <InternetUser> Does Ubuntu work with the Surface Pro 4 yet?
[08:56] <luc4> I see
[09:19] <stooj> InternetUser: I think the subreddit is the place to check https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/
[09:23] <InternetUser> thanx stooj
[09:23] <InternetUser> Why is suspend so hard for linux?
[09:23] <InternetUser> suspend isn't working for my Dell D620 with lubuntu 16.04 either
[09:24] <InternetUser> suspend or hibernate
[09:24] <InternetUser> or sleep
[09:24] <EriC^^> wb lotuspsychje
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> tnx EriC^^
[09:25] <bazhang> InternetUser, please dont use enter as punctuation
[09:27]  * InternetUser repents in sackcloth and ashes.
[09:30] <ducasse> InternetUser: because the way many manufacturers implement it requires special drivers for windows, and they don't provide the necessary docs for open source developers.
[09:34] <InternetUser> ducasse you mean Dell assumed some basic component of the Windows OS when they put firmware on the hardware to regulate its operation?
[09:34] <InternetUser> and Ubuntu has to work with that firmware Dell put into the hardware?
[09:37] <ducasse> InternetUser: they assume windows will be the os, and that particular drivers will be present so they don't need to adhere too strictly to a standard
[09:38] <ducasse> InternetUser: any bugs or non-standard stuff in the firmware will be worked around by the drivers
[09:40] <InternetUser> Thank you. I think I understand. Have a good day.
[10:14] <Zakkor> was there a kernel update yesterday for 16.04?
[10:18] <EriC^^> Zakkor: no
[10:20] <Zakkor> was there any in these past few days? because a dkms module randomly broke and won't compile anymore and thats the only reason i can think of
[10:21] <EriC^^> Zakkor: for me the 96 kernel was installed on 9/18
[10:23] <Zakkor> `4.10.0-35-generic #39~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 13 09:02:42 UTC`... that's weird. i rebooted every day, idk why it would break this morning
[10:25] <EriC^^> Zakkor: where is the kernel coming from?
[10:25] <EriC^^> that's not an ubuntu repo kernel
[10:26] <Zakkor> wtf. how can i find out?
[10:26] <EriC^^> unless are you using some kind of hwe stack?
[10:26] <EriC^^> Zakkor: try "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic"
[10:27] <Zakkor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FZMmU1yR/
[10:27] <EriC^^> Zakkor: nevermind, it looks like it's the zesty hwe kernel
[10:29] <EriC^^> Zakkor: hmm something is odd
[10:29] <Zakkor> this is the driver btw: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/rtl8812au-dkms
[10:29] <EriC^^> !info linux-generic-lts-zesty xenial
[10:31] <EriC^^> oh ok, this is the package linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[10:32] <EriC^^> Zakkor: try grep -B4 "linux-image.*35" /var/log/apt/history.log to see when it was installed
[10:33] <Zakkor> yup, yesterday
[10:38] <EriC^^> Zakkor: aha
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> wich package would hold windows buttons, its for adding a !bug?
[11:46] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: try dpkg -S /path/to/icon maybe ?
[11:46] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: you mean the button image? system-wide, a theme. Otherwise, a DE or an application. Best way to find out if you know which image (or associated images) is "dpkg-query -S /path/to/file" which will report which package it is supplied by
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> TJ- EriC^^ ill bug against gnome itself tnx, cant find the buttons icons
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:36] <Junior> yello! :)
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Junior: welcome, how can we help?
[12:38] <Junior> helloo lotuspsychje, if you are not a bot :)
[12:38] <Junior> even if you are , hello :)
[12:38] <Junior> i am having issues with rsyslog - i don't get anything logged from sendmail
[12:39] <Junior> i have updated some packages on ubuntu 14.04 some days ago and since them, no logs in sendmail
[12:39] <Junior> i have replaced the 50-default.conf with a default one from web with the same result
[12:40] <Junior> any ideeas what is wrong?
[12:48] <jan64> Hey, any ideas why the delay between entering a password and getting logged in is so signifficant in ubuntu server 17.04?
[12:49] <jan64> through both ssh and a local terminal
[12:50] <EriC^^> jan64: is it a fresh install?
[12:50] <jan64> Yup
[12:50] <TJ-> jan64: yes, it's running the /etc/update-motd.d/ scripts. You can disable that
[12:51] <jan64> ah, thanks!
[12:52] <EriC^^> jan64: how significant are we talking?
[12:53] <jan64> ~5 seconds
[12:53] <jan64> Well, it's not horrible
[12:53] <EriC^^> jan64: what cpu is it?
[12:53] <EriC^^> mine takes about 0.5 sec to login
[12:54] <jan64> old one, intel E5200 oc'd to 3.2 Ghz
[12:54] <jan64> and the drive's a hdd, too.
[12:55] <TJ-> jan64: it depends on how many core file-systems are defined too, because the MOTD usually calculates free space for the key ones rootfs /var/ etc
[12:58] <EriC^^> jan64: try "sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/" and see if it takes 5secs
[12:59] <jan64> Yup, it does.
[12:59] <TJ-> jan64: if you want to disable it on login remove motd from the PAM config /etc/pam.d/
[13:00] <TJ-> jan64: supplied by packages libpam-motd and update-motd
[13:02] <maverick1> Any user from nepal?
[13:02] <EriC^^> !nepal
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> !np | maverick1
[13:03] <EriC^^> maverick1: see above ^
[13:08] <jan64> hmm, i disabled the scripts via chmod -x,
[13:09] <jan64> looks like 50-motd-news was the culprit
[13:09] <EriC^^> jan64: interesting, i dont have that one, 16.04 here
[13:12] <jan64> It seems to be downloading news from i believe https://motd.ubuntu.com , which is down for me.
[13:13] <afidegnum> hello, what's the defaut path to each command? i removed the symlink to drush by rm but still having the drush command running
[13:14] <jan64> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25586180/
[13:14] <jan64> Anyways, disabling it fixed the problem.
[13:21] <zamba> how do i get stdout from a script running from systemd in syslog?
[13:21] <zamba> i tried StandardOut=syslog, but i get nothing in syslog
[13:45] <leeyaa> hello guys
[13:46] <leeyaa> is 16.04 LTS supposed to use new network devices naming scheme? i though that if it detects that it is a VM it should be disabled by default and use legacy naming convention with eth0 eth1 etc ?
[13:48] <imfearless> no
[13:48] <imfearless> it uses the updated scheme regardless
[13:52] <leeyaa> imfearless: so it should by default use new scheme, no matter if it is a vm or a physical machine, correct ?
[13:58] <imfearless> leeyaa correct
[13:59] <leeyaa> imfearless: thanks
[14:03] <mrchairman> ok peeps, I got a digital ocean droplet, ubuntu 14.04 and when I press up in the terminal, I don't get the history. It is so irritating typing stuff over and over and over. How can I fix this? My poor little handles are getting worked to the bone typing
[14:04] <donofrio> mrchairman, are you running bash or another shell?
[14:07] <mrchairman> donofrio, bash
[14:07] <linocisco> hi all
[14:08] <TJ-> mrchairman: does bash's ~/.bash_history exist and is it up to date? Possibly history has been turned off
[14:08] <EriC^^> mrchairman: try "echo !!"
[14:08] <linocisco> I have python 2.7 default when I typed python on terminal and when I typed python3, it said python3.5.2. Now python 3.6 is out , How can I upgrade from 3.5.2 to 3.6 without leaving 3.5.2 behind?
[14:09] <EriC^^> mrchairman: are you sure your up arrow button is functional?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[14:11] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, 16.04.3 LTS 64bit
[14:11] <mrchairman> let me see
[14:12] <mrchairman> yeah, up arrow works here
[14:12] <mrchairman> ah man I got it
[14:12] <mrchairman> user has no home directory
[14:13] <EriC^^> mrchairman: i see
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: its reccommended to use python version that ships with your ubuntu version
[14:14] <mrchairman> should i just mkdir george and make ol george the owner
[14:14] <mrchairman> would that fix it?
[14:16] <EriC^^> mrchairman: you need to add it to /etc/passwd too
[14:17] <EriC^^> although i dont think that's the problem of the history, bash only writes to .bash_history when it closes so something else is up
[14:18] <mrchairman> yeah that didn't fix it
[14:18] <EriC^^> mrchairman: maybe the up arrow isn't getting received via ssh? does "echo !!" show the previous command or "ctrl+r" start the reverse history search?
[14:22] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, this is 2.7 which is mentioned as legacy in official python site https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 Although it is still usable and functioning
[14:22] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, meaning default ubuntu version of python is 2.7.x
[14:24] <helpwifi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25586489/  ---> No access point is showing up in my fresh install of Ubuntu LTS 16.04. My laptop model is Lenovo Y520.. can anyone help? Thanks :)
[14:25] <EriC^^> helpwifi: does "lspci -k | grep -A2 Network"  show anything?
[14:26] <helpwifi> EriC^^, yes
[14:26] <EriC^^> anything next to driver in use?
[14:26] <helpwifi> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25586536/
[14:27] <EriC^^> helpwifi: the lines in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf seem related
[14:28] <EriC^^> hmm i have that file too
[14:30] <EriC^^> helpwifi: try "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[14:31] <TJ-> helpwifi: it doesn't look as if the 8086:24FD is currently supported in the driver
[14:31] <helpwifi> EriC^^, it's still not showing up
[14:34] <EriC^^> helpwifi: install the hwe of zesty so it's supported
[14:35] <EriC^^> !hwe | helpwifi follow instructions here
[14:35] <TJ-> helpwifi: EriC^^ support for that device wasn't added until kernel version 4.6 so you need to upgrade to a later kernel via the HWE
[14:36] <helpwifi>  TJ- ok
[14:41] <helpwifi> EriC^^, TJ- I install the LTSnablement stack.. now?
[14:41] <helpwifi> *installed
[14:41] <EriC^^> helpwifi: ok, reboot and see how it goes
[14:41] <helpwifi> EriC^^, okay :D
[14:48] <randymarsh9> hello
[14:49] <randymarsh9> what's the easiest way to check ram usage on ubuntu server?
[14:49] <randymarsh9> by process i mean
[14:50] <randymarsh9> i tried both "free -m" and "ps aux  | awk '{print $6/1024 " MB\t\t" $11}'  | sort -n"
[14:50] <randymarsh9> but they aren't adding up
[14:50] <maddawg2> in what way?
[14:50] <randymarsh9> i want to see how much total ram each process is using
[14:51] <randymarsh9> right now it says there's 121MB free on my server
[14:51] <randymarsh9> but when i run the ps aux and add the MB together I don't get 121 MB free
[14:51] <randymarsh9> i get like 500MB free
[14:51] <randymarsh9> so it's hard for me to tell what's hogging alll the resources
[14:52] <EriC^^> randymarsh9: in free -m look at available that's the actual free ram without the cached stuff
[14:52] <EriC^^> !linuxatemyram | randymarsh9
[14:52] <EriC^^> !ram | randymarsh9
[14:54] <randymarsh9> EriC^^: available?
[14:54] <randymarsh9> there's nothing that says available only free
[14:54] <randymarsh9> EriC^^: https://imgur.com/a/nSijD
[14:55] <randymarsh9> ubottu: is that a joke site
[14:55] <EriC^^> randymarsh9: no it's a legit site, your actual free ram is 671 i believe
[14:55] <randymarsh9> EriC^^: how did you get that number?
[14:55] <randymarsh9> without seeing the processes
[14:56] <randymarsh9> you mean the number below?
[14:59] <EriC^^> randymarsh9: yeah the one next to -/+ buffers
[14:59] <randymarsh9> EriC^^: okay cool let me add the processes up again and see which one i get, that seems closer to what i was adding up actually
[15:03] <akik> i don't know why ubuntu removed that buffers/cache line
[15:03] <akik> in 16.04 maybe
[15:04] <akik> is that info available in some other column now?
[15:07] <kappa1> my computer does not boot any kernel higher than 4.4.0-89. When I try to boot with the latest kernel I get no image on booting, everything is black. What can I do?
[15:07] <helpwifi> TJ-: EriC^^:
[15:07] <helpwifi> I did what you guys told me and now my wifi works
[15:07] <helpwifi> but only in recovery mode... my normal ubuntu stooped bootin
[15:08] <EriC^^> kappa1: which graphics card do you have?
[15:08] <helpwifi> it says my graphics, display and input are not supported
[15:08] <helpwifi> EriC^^: nvidia gtx 1050 ti
[15:08] <EriC^^> helpwifi: did you install the xorg packages related to hwe?
[15:08] <helpwifi> EriC^^: no..
[15:09] <helpwifi> I only installed the LME something(i forgot the name :3)
[15:09] <TJ-> akik: Ubuntu didn't, the upstream procps project did in June 2014
[15:09] <EriC^^> helpwifi: did you run install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 too?
[15:09] <kappa1> EriC^^, I think it's a radeon
[15:10] <EriC^^> helpwifi: *run install = install
[15:10] <helpwifi> EriC^^: You told me to install something from the website and I copied + pasted what was written on the website you provided me with. I don't remeber any of it :P
[15:10] <EriC^^> kappa1: are you using the amd driver from amd's site or what came with ubuntu?
[15:11] <helpwifi> idk
[15:11] <helpwifi> EriC^^: In simple terms, I only installed what you told me to install and maybe its dependencies
[15:11] <kappa1> EriC^^, I think it's the one that comes with ubuntu
[15:11] <EriC^^> kappa1: oh, how are you trying to install the newer kernel?
[15:13] <kappa1> EriC^^, I didn't do anything, I just upgraded ubuntu. Then I notice that I could not boot, so I had to chose a lower version kernel in the advanced boot options
[15:13] <EriC^^> helpwifi: boot into recovery mode and try "dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-hwe" and see what you get
[15:14] <helpwifi> EriC^^: ii  xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04                     1:7.7+16ubuntu3~16.04.1                                     amd64        X.Org X server
[15:16] <oerheks> this post says about that intel 8086:24FD : you need the linux firmware package too >>  https://askubuntu.com/questions/910934/intel-wifi-card-not-recognised-in-ubuntu-16-04   >>> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_1.164_all.deb
[15:17] <oerheks> and give instructions how to install
[15:17] <TJ-> oerheks: but helpwifi said the device is now working
[15:18] <EriC^^> it's not booting into lightdm/xorg anymore
[15:18] <TJ-> oerheks: the HWE should pull in the related linux-firmware package
[15:18] <helpwifi> TJ-:  it's working but in recovery mode.. normal mode won't even boot
[15:18] <oerheks> oh, i understood it does not work..
[15:18] <TJ-> helpwifi: the wifi device is working
[15:18] <TJ-> helpwifi: but the HWE has broken the GUI drivers apparently
[15:18] <helpwifi> TJ-: yup the device is working
[15:18] <helpwifi> TJ-: maybe
[15:18] <TJ-> helpwifi: are you familiar with how to edit the kernel command-line at the GRUB boot menu?
[15:19] <kappa1> helpwifi, don't use secure boot also
[15:20] <TJ-> helpwifi: instead of booting to the recovery, you could boot to a regular multi-user non-GUI session and then work on it. Gives you slightly more abilities. If you want to do it this way add to the "linux ..." line "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" which won't try to load the GUI part
[15:20] <helpwifi> TJ-: that sounds great but I am just starting to learn :(
[15:21] <TJ-> helpwifi: nothing quite like problems to help us learn faster :)
[15:23] <helpwifi> TJ-: yup... but what would I do on a terminal when I have zero idea of what I am supposed to do
[15:23] <TJ-> helpwifi: the point is, if you start it with mult-user.target  you can repeatedly try starting the GUI and show us the logs if it fails. With recovery mode that sharing process is much more difficult
[15:23] <EriC^^> helpwifi: where are you booted into right now?
[15:23] <helpwifi> TJ-: okay.. and how do I contact you guys when I am on terminal
[15:24] <helpwifi> EriC^^: Recovery mode
[15:24] <TJ-> helpwifi: what PC are you using right now to talk to us?
[15:24] <helpwifi> TJ-: the same lenovo
[15:24] <helpwifi> TJ-: but I do have another Dell that I can use :D
[15:24] <TJ-> helpwifi: if in multi-user mode, at a logged in console, it'll have network so you can do "pastebinit /path/to/some/file.log" and tell us the URL and we can look at the output easily
[15:24] <helpwifi> lets do this :p
[15:25] <helpwifi> TJ-: thanks :D
[15:25] <helpwifi> I'll open my dell now
[15:26] <TJ-> helpwifi: OK, tell us when your Dell persona comes into the channel :)
[15:26] <TJ-> helpwifi: do you want us to link you to instructions on how to edit the GRUB boot menu?
[15:26] <TJ-> Anyone know the factoid trigger for editing the boot menu? I've forgotten it!
[15:27] <EriC^^> !nomodeset
[15:27] <EriC^^> just put systemd.unit=multi-user.target instead of nomodeset
[15:29] <helpwifi> TJ-: EriC^^ thanks.. I found my laptop but I forgot where I placed my charger
[15:33] <TJ-> helpwifi: if you're able to use an IRC client right now from Recovery, then you can do the same thing from multi-user mode once you're logged in, and then you can access multiple consoles and switch between them using Alt+F1 (tty1) through Alt+F6 (tty6), so you could run IRC client on one and do diagnosis on another.
[15:34] <helpwifi> TJ-: my other laptop is ready but I'm confused about how to start the no-GUI part
[15:35] <TJ-> helpwifi: Here it is:
[15:36] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, EriC^^ hey guys its me
[15:36] <TJ-> helpwifi: Reboot, hold down the Escape key to intercept the GRUB boot-loader menu. Highlight the Ubuntu entry and press 'E' to edit it. Navigate down to the line beginning "linux ..." and add to that line " systemd.unit=multi-user.target" (separated by spaces from other entries)...
[15:36] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: Then press Ctrl+X to immediately boot with that option for this session only
[15:36] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: you'll eventually end up at a console "login:" prompt on tty1
[15:37] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: once logged in first check the PC has network connectivity by doing a ping to some external host, then we can try manually triggering the GUI to start and then pastebin the log files
[15:38] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, alrighty.. I'm on the grub console.. i don't see any Ubuntu to highlight :3 sorry I'm a complete beginner
[15:39] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: what is the first entry in the GRUB menu you do see?
[15:40] <helpwifiDell> I have a grub terminal, there is no entry.. if i press tab, acpi is the first entry
[15:40] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: did you just press Escape when booting? This sounds like you also pressed "C" for command-line mode!
[15:40] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I lost the link you sent me.. because I am speaking from a new client
[15:41] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I pressed Esc in the Ubuntu menu(where you can choose between ubuntu and windows) and it opened a grub terminal
[15:41] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: OK, let's assume this is command-line mode and we need to return to the menu, so do "insmod normal" and then "normal" which should bring up the menu
[15:41] <helpwifiDell> yup
[15:41] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: at which point highlight the top "Ubuntu" entry and press 'E'
[15:42] <TJ-> now you should see all the commands for the entry, so navigate down to the line beginning "linux ..."
[15:42] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, goit it
[15:42] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: move along the line towards the end of the existing options and add " systemd.unit=multi-user.target " (including the spaces to separate it from other entries) and then press Ctrl+X to boot immediately
[15:43] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, done
[15:43] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I see an empty terminal now
[15:44] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: press a key, you should provoke the "login:" prompy
[15:44] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, (Press enter for maintenance, Ctrl+D to continue), I should hit enter right?
[15:44] <helpwifiDell> I got  a terminal helpwifiDell
[15:45] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: hmmm, didn't expect that maintenance prompt... I'd press Ctrl+D because we want regular multi-user mode login
[15:45] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I pinged google but it says unknown host so I guess network is not hosting
[15:45] <helpwifiDell> *working
[15:45] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: no, it won't be at this point, because it's dropped into recovery/maintenance mode somehow
[15:45] <EriC^^> helpwifiDell: did you press "e" on the recovery mode or the first ubuntu that was in grub?
[15:45] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: type "exit" to exit that and have the system init continue the startup
[15:45] <helpwifiDell> EriC^^, on the first ubuntu
[15:46] <EriC^^> that's odd
[15:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: that makes two of us thinking that
[15:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: the mysterious ways of systemd :)
[15:46] <oerheks> .. but wifi worked...
[15:46] <TJ-> oerheks: not right now it isn't :) we need multi-user mode so NetworkManager is started
[15:47] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, okay
[15:47] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: did you get the "login: " prompt finally?
[15:49] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I had already pressed "Enter" so I shutdown my PC and repeated all the steps and now I get a blank screen after Ctrl+X
[15:49] <helpwifiDell> :3
[15:49] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: at that point the Linux kernel should be starting up
[15:50] <TJ-> EriC^^: oerheks possible disk corruption/hardware issues maybe? (inconsistent results)
[15:52] <EriC^^> i feel like he's messing up somehow tbh
[15:52] <EriC^^> :D
[15:52] <TJ-> kernel should at least kick off with some messages though
[15:53] <helpwifiDell> EriC^^, this is the 5th time I am repeating.. and this time I don't get a blank screen but something like "/dev/nvme0n1p5: clean xxx files xxxx/yyy blocks" and terminal where I can't type
[15:53] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: Try pressing Alt+F1 first, then see. You should see a message that includes "tty1" at the top of the screen
[15:54] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yay.. I got the login: screen
[15:54] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: I think the system has defaulted to tty7 where the GUI would usually write to, which doesn't have a console login attached
[15:54] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: Yay!
[15:54] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: OK, log-in then try your ping again
[15:54] <EriC^^> aha, that makes sense
[15:55] <TJ-> progress comes in bite-sized chunks... and lots of waterslides backwards!
[15:55] <helpwifiDell> it shows xxxx login: does this mean xxx is my username?
[15:56] <helpwifiDell> because I think that was my username until it doesn't work
[15:56] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: no, it should be system's hostname
[15:56] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: login: username is the same one used at the GUI
[15:56] <helpwifiDell> is there anyway to check usernames? or should I start recovery mode to see my username and come back and try again?
[15:56] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: you don't know who you log-in as!?
[15:57] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I forgot :3
[15:57] <helpwifiDell> I thought it was xxxx until I realized it was my hostname
[15:57] <EriC^^> helpwifiDell: try xxxx
[15:57] <TJ-> I've heard of forgetting passwords... but...!
[15:57] <EriC^^> who knows
[15:58] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I remember my password though.. maybe I forgot because I never had to input my username :P
[15:58] <helpwifiDell> i remembered
[15:58] <EriC^^> helpwifiDell: when you open a terminal, what does it usually say at the start? something@...
[15:58] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: well, if you need to return to Recovery to check it, better do so
[15:58] <imfearless> cat /etc/passwd
[15:59] <TJ-> imfearless: yes, we know, but you can't do that at the "login:" prompt!!
[15:59] <imfearless> joining in late.. sorry
[15:59] <TJ-> imfearless: :)
[16:01] <helpwifiDell> this is strange
[16:01] <helpwifiDell> my password works on GUI but not on terminal :3
[16:01] <helpwifiDell> I mean the login terminal
[16:01] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: Got Caps Lock on?
[16:01] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, nope.. I checked
[16:02] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, the username is right too
[16:02] <helpwifiDell> I just checked on recovery mode
[16:02] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: does the password have any 'special' UTF or country/language specific characters in it? Could be caused by different locale set for console than for GUI
[16:02] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, nope.. only alphabets and numbers
[16:03] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: is that alphabet from the 7-bit ASCII character set, or include non-American characters?
[16:03] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, only american characters
[16:03] <helpwifiDell> and numbers
[16:03] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: anything with accents or similar might not be available if the system console locale doesn't match the GUI
[16:04] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: then are you typing the correct username to match the password?
[16:04] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yup.. I again logged into recovery mode right now
[16:05] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: how about changing the password to something easy for this problem-solving. something like "passwd <myusername>" and then enter "letmein" as the new password ?
[16:05] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, okay.. doing that rn
[16:06] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, if I change the pass in recovery mode, the change will take effect right?
[16:07] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: yes, it's a permanent change. You'd need to change it back to something secure once the system is sorted out
[16:11] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I'm sorry. Apparently the username(or what I thought to be my username) during logging in through the GUI was not my username
[16:11] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, anyways...
[16:11] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I'm logged in now :D
[16:12] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, the ping is working
[16:12] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: OK, so do a ping test
[16:12] <TJ-> great!
[16:13] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, now how do I fix the GUI :D
[16:13] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: let's just ensure you can pastebin from there. do this "pastebinit <( uname -r; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l 'xserver-xorg*' )"
[16:14] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: you should get a URL of the form http://paste.ubuntu/com/XXXXXXX tell us the XXXXXX
[16:15] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587031
[16:16] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: OK, now we'll try manually starting the GUI, hopefully it'll fail, and we can pastebin the logs
[16:16] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: "sudo systemctl start lightdm"
[16:18] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, just a quick question.. i was bored on the console and I did "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl" and now Ctrl +Z and Ctrl+X won't quit it.. how do I quit it
[16:19] <oerheks> watch it 'till the end ?
[16:19] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: Press Ctrl+] to get to the command line then "quit"
[16:20] <oerheks> or Ctrl + C ?
[16:20] <TJ-> oerheks: no, that doesn't interrupt a telnet session
[16:21] <TJ-> for SSH the break sequence is <Enter>~. (Enter key, squiggle, dot)
[16:21] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, oerheks I restarted my PC :P
[16:21] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: well, it's time for my annual holidays!
[16:21] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I did that
[16:22] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, now I get a error
[16:22] <TJ-> helpwifiDell:  you did what "that" ?
[16:22] <helpwifiDell> "The system is running in low-graphics mode".. by that I mean the GUI command
[16:23] <helpwifiDell> "Your screen, grapics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourselves"
[16:23] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, this is what the warning/error reads
[16:23] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: ahhh... good
[16:23] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: so press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to return to the console
[16:24] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, ok i'm on the terminal
[16:24] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: then do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and tell us the XXXXX again
[16:26] <jpdj> Hi. I'm trying to install webcamstudio but there is no ppa  for my current release of ubuntu (17.04), only for older releases. Is there some way I can force the ppa to work for my release?
[16:26] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587079
[16:26] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 22507097*
[16:26] <EriC^^> jpdj: you can try changing the ppa line to point to the older version
[16:27] <EriC^^> jpdj: who knows if it'll break anything or not
[16:27] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: do you mean 25587097 ?
[16:27] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yes :)
[16:30] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: so the PC has an Intel and Nvidia graphics chipsets?
[16:30] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, so it seems :D It has a nvidia graphics card
[16:30] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: EriC^^ interesting, seems HWE has broken something serious: "[    63.071] (EE) Unknown chipset: NV137"
[16:31] <EriC^^> aha
[16:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: not good that even the backtrace is not there
[16:31] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: EriC^^ oerheks the pastebin if you don't have it already http://paste.ubuntu.com/25587097/
[16:31] <helpwifiDell> how do you guys understand all this stuff
[16:31] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: practive
[16:32] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: in that log-file (EE) indicates an error, (WW) a warning, and (II) information
[16:32] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, nothing personal but what do you guys do for a profession.. I mean are you guys system admins or something?
[16:32] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: can you show us "pastebinit <( ls -ltr /var/log/Xorg* )"
[16:33] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: hackers mainly I think, know a little about a lot, or a lot about a little
[16:34] <TJ-> EriC^^: oerheks I think we need to look at some Xorg logs from before the HWE was installed to see what a good Xorg start looked like
[16:34] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587134
[16:35] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, that is a really great quote :D
[16:35] <jpdj> Thanks EriC^^, changing the source list file made it possible to apt install it. Only problem is webcamstudio has dependencies that are not installable. I'll have to try to figure something else out
[16:35] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: show us "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"
[16:36] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: although I suspect that log will also be from a failed start-up too, going by its timestamp
[16:36] <EriC^^> jpdj: ah
[16:36] <geetar1> I was having trouble with libreoffice base's wizards and tried uninstalling and re-installing.  This did not work.  Then I thought it might be some corrupt config files, but I must have deleted something important because now no module of libreoffice will open.  The error states that libkdeint5_libreoffice cannot be opened.
[16:37] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587155/
[16:37] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: also let's see if you're supposed to have the nvidia drivers installed "pastebinit <( ubuntu-drivers devices )"
[16:39] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587167/
[16:39] <oerheks> jpdj, build it? https://github.com/WebcamStudio/webcamstudio
[16:40] <geetar1> ^^ the error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/25587173/
[16:40] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: EriC^^ that's bad, it was previously using the FBDEV framebuffer driver to run the Intel device.
[16:41] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, ok
[16:41] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: EriC^^ that ubuntu-drivers output is incorrect since it suggests the nouveau driver should support the Nvidia chipset, but we know from Xorg log that it doesn't
[16:42] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: I'm going to suggest you install the Nvidia proprietary driver, which should also sort out the switching between it and the Intel chipset.
[16:42] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: EriC^^ see any downsides to adding the Nvidia driver?
[16:42] <theablestman> hi I formatted my HDD I can't start from CD/DVD says error :unknown filesystem entering rescue mode... Grub rescue
[16:43] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: if EriC^^ concurs (wait for his response), the command is "apt-get install nvidia-375"
[16:43] <Bashing-om> theablestman: And ypu did reset the boot device priority in bios ?
[16:43] <EriC^^> TJ-: helpwifiDell sure go for it
[16:43] <TJ-> theablestman: that suggests the system has still started from the HDD
[16:44] <theablestman> no bios
[16:44] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: you'll also need to stop the GUI with "sudo systemctl stop lightdm"
[16:44] <theablestman> k ty
[16:44] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, alrighty
[16:45] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: once the nvidia driver is built and installed, you can then try again with "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service" - remember, if it fails, Ctrl+Alt+F1 to return to the console
[16:45] <Bashing-om> theablestman: Every system has some kind/type of firmware to boot something/somewhre . But ya fot to set it .
[16:46] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, aye aye captain
[16:47] <theablestman> OK it worked ty
[16:47] <theablestman> bbl
[16:47] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, this time it shows no error or popup, just a blank screen with a "_" at the top
[16:49] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: that sounds like a boot failure
[16:50] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: press a key, see if the screen redraws
[16:50] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, nope.. nothing
[16:50] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: or try switching to another console, say tty2, with Ctrl+Alt+F2
[16:50] <marekw2143> hello
[16:50] <EriC^^> hi
[16:51] <marekw2143> when installing Ubuntu with full disk encryption :)
[16:51] <marekw2143> can I choose any partition format ?
[16:51] <marekw2143> or have to use Ext4?
[16:51] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: did this "_" cursor come up after starting the lightdm service, or as a result of a reboot?
[16:51] <TJ-> marekw2143: as far as I know the file-system inside the LUKS/dm-crypt container is up to you (in manual mode)
[16:52] <marekw2143> ok
[16:52] <TJ-> marekw2143: but I seem to recall the installer does limit the choices when doing FDE. It uses LVM as well I think
[16:52] <marekw2143> I thought about something with compression on the fly
[16:52] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I see the system running with low graphics could not detect graphics card,input device settings etc.. configure it yourself kind of error on tty2
[16:52] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, after the lightdm service
[16:52] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: strange it started on tty2! Try Ctrl+Alt+F3 for tty3 then
[16:53] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: may need to touch a key to get the "login:" prompt on the new console
[16:53] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I got a login screen on tty3
[16:53] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: good... log-in, do "sudo systemctl stop lightdm.service"
[16:54] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, done
[16:54] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: I assume you've succesfully installed the nvidia driver package?
[16:54] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yup
[16:54] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: do "lsmod | grep nvidia" - do you see it listed?
[16:55] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I see nvidia written in red
[16:55] <helpwifiDell> nvidia xxxxxx x
[16:55] <helpwifiDell> where xxxxx and x are numbers
[16:55] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: good. Now let's ensure no outher GUI processes are running: "ps -efly | grep X" - see anything except the 'grep' command itself listed there?
[16:56] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yup.. I see 4 lines
[16:56] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: You shouldn't see anything like this: "/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 ..."
[16:56] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, wait.. I'll pastebinit
[16:56] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: if you do, then stopping lightdm didn't stop the X server, which would explain the tty2 issue and it not starting properly
[16:56] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I see XOrg.failsafe. something
[16:56] <helpwifiDell> and I see a 2-3 Xorgs
[16:57] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: ok, we need to kill those, so do the "pastebinit <( ps -efly | grep X)"
[16:57] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, /25587254/
[16:59] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: now do "sudo kill -KILL 28818 28805" and then do "ps -efly | grep X" again see if all those except the 'grep' have gone
[17:00] <amirite> i've got a lot of stuff in /var/log/dist-upgrade. i assume there's an apt command to clean it? can someone tell me what to do before I rm -rf it?
[17:00] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, 25587268
[17:00] <helpwifiDell> still these left
[17:01] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: looks like there's a fail-safe service running
[17:02] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, should I kill all those process?
[17:02] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: helpwifiDell they'll automatically restart, they just did - the process IDs changed
[17:03] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: actually, no, I'm incorrect, they didn't change. Yes, KILL them
[17:03] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: once they're gone try again with "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service"
[17:04] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: if you need to be back to the console Ctrl+Alt+F3
[17:04] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, ok
[17:04] <amirite> how to clean up /var/log/dist-upgrade
[17:04] <TJ-> amirite: is it just logs ? if so manual deletion is fine
[17:05] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, I killed it all but still the blank terminal with "_" on GUI
[17:06] <Bashing-om> amirite: ^^ But do not delete the 2 dots files NOR the directory.
[17:06] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: maybe it's on another tty? Try Ctrl+Alt+F8
[17:06] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: in fact try F1 through F8 in case it's gone on another
[17:08] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, f7 and f8 are blank too
[17:09] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: hmmm. At this stage it might be quicker to try a reboot and see! "sudo systemctl reboot"
[17:11] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, ok
[17:12] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, it seems like it worked
[17:12] <helpwifiDell> o.o
[17:12] <helpwifiDell> wow
[17:12] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: so eventually you have working WiFi and GUI?
[17:13] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, Thanksssssssssssssssssssssss EriC^^ you too :D thanks :D oerheks you too :D
[17:13] <helpwifiDell> thanks guys :D
[17:13] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: that was a baptism of fire!
[17:13] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, yes everything seems to work well
[17:13] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, can you summarize what we did for the fix? :D
[17:14] <EriC^^> !yay | helpwifiDell
[17:14] <EriC^^> awesome
[17:14] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: for Wifi, installed a kernel version v4.6 or later to support the Intel chipset, and for the GPUs installed nvidia proprietary driver because the open-source Nouveau driver didn't support the nvidia chipset
[17:15] <helpwifiDell> TJ-, EriC^^ that's great :D I can
[17:15] <TJ-> helpwifiDell: and used console-mode boot to control testing of the changes
[17:15] <helpwifiDell> I can't thank you guys enough
[17:15] <helpwifiDell> :D
[17:25] <rgrundstrom> Hello... Im having issues with getting a fresh install working. we have our own repos and ive copied gpg files from a working server as well as the source.list needed... Still does not work. Error: "...does not have a Release file." Please help.
[17:38] <marekw2143> I'm using lubuntu (probably) , wmctrl -m gives Name: Openbox
[17:38] <marekw2143> when I run terminal, then touchpad is "frozen"
[17:38] <marekw2143> is there any fix to this ?
[17:43] <marekw2143> ok, synclient Touchpadoff=0 did the job
[17:44] <marekw2143> by why launching terminal in gui disables touchpad
[17:48] <dsqkp> Hi all, can somebody point me to some documentation on the recommended way of build custom kernel deb packages for Ubuntu from source obtained from kernel.org? I can't seem to find a definitive guide.
[17:49] <nacc> dsqkp: why not just use the mainlinne PPA?
[17:49] <nacc> dsqkp: and also why do you need the mainlinne kernel?
[17:50] <dsqkp> nacc: I need features in 4.9 that are not available.
[17:50] <Greeley> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild#Kernel_Build_and_Installation
[17:50] <Bashing-om> !kernel | dsqkp
[17:52] <kappa1> my computer does not boot any kernel higher than 4.4.0-89. When I try to boot with the latest kernel I get no image on booting, everything is black. What can I do?
[17:52] <nacc> dsqkp: what versionn of ubuntu?
[17:52] <geetar1> I can't launch libreoffice.  I believe I deleted a necessary file.  It is in the gui menu but from the command line it states that it is not installed.  Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25587520/
[17:52] <kappa1> the latest LTS
[17:52] <dsqkp> Greeley: Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.
[17:53] <Bashing-om> kappa1: Broken graphics driver ?? on the later kernels can you boot the recovery kernel ?
[17:53] <nacc> dsqkp: if you are on 16.04, use the hwe stack (it's at 4.10)
[17:54] <Greeley> dsqkp: no problem
[17:54] <kappa1> Bashing-om, I haven't tried booting in recovery mode, just a previous kernel version.
[17:54] <Greeley> kappa1: when you install the kernel are you doing it through apt, and are you updating grub to find it?
[17:55] <kappa1> Greeley, I just allowed the normal software update/upgrade of ubuntu, and it installed the new kernels for me, I found no problems during instalation
[17:56] <dsqkp> Bashing-om: In this case I do - and I need to strip out everything unnecessary from the kernel config.
[17:57] <dsqkp> Bashing-om, I didn't notice the link in that one that points to the one Greeley sent, thanks though!
[17:57] <Bashing-om> dsqkp: We do try and help - with the best advise we can give :)
[18:05] <geetar1> Is there a more thorough command to remove and reinstall a program than "apt purge"?
[18:09] <nchambers> geetar1: it depends on how the program was installed
[18:12] <seven-eleven> hi
[18:12] <geetar1> nchambers: I have tried through gui software app and command line, both removing and installing several times.  I can't get libreoffice to work again.  I think I deleted a necessary file.  The error is "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_libreoffice" is missing, but trying to start from the command line complains that it is not installed.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25587520/
[18:12] <seven-eleven> does ubuntu work fine with intel rapid storage technology?
[18:18] <oerheks> seven-eleven, no, see the uefi manual, advised is to disable it
[18:18] <oerheks> !uefi
[18:19] <oerheks> oops that is SRT
[18:21] <seven-eleven> oerheks, thanks, ill disable it then
[18:21] <oerheks> seven-eleven, sorry, i got it wrong, mixed up
[18:23] <ducasse> seven-eleven: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2246840/intel-rapid-storage-technology-support-ubuntu-derivatives.html
[18:23] <alexas> what is the possible solution if I get write error while loading file to external hdd connected through usb, but I can work inside that hdd all good and delete and move files with no errorrs, the problem only occured apparentlywhen I try to load from my ubuntu system drive to external (NTFS) drive. I don't remember it happens before, I was also tried to load live usb and copy stuff and it was working ok.
[18:25] <seven-eleven> already disable it :-)
[18:25] <statusfailed> I just installed a new graphics card, but my drivers are way out of date and it's failing to boot.How can I use non-nvidia drivers so I can boot + update nvidia drivers?
[18:26] <NotLim> alexas... what error are you getting?
[18:26] <statusfailed> This is on 16.04
[18:27] <alexas> NotLim: i am citing from memory so you must forgive, but it was something like 'writing not permitted'
[18:28] <NotLim> well... have you tried doing a chkdsk in Windows, prior to using in Linux?
[18:28] <alexas> NotLim: no, it works in liveusb situation I assume it something in my config
[18:29] <NotLim> okay... sometimes is a little corrupted... i suggest to do a chkdsk, just to be sure
[18:30] <alexas> NotLim: ok thank you sir
[18:30] <seven-eleven> ducasse, oerheks "You need to turn off "Rapid start" technology or suspend will resume automatically in Ubuntu, and use up the battery." source: https://askubuntu.com/questions/369639/dual-boot-on-xps-15
[18:31] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | statusfailed give this a shot
[18:32] <statusfailed> ubottu: thanks, I'll give that a shot
[18:32] <statusfailed> oh :D
[18:32] <statusfailed> wicked smahhht
[18:32] <ducasse> seven-eleven: see the previous sentence - "... on one of these machines". looks like a firmware problem with that model.
[18:35] <seven-eleven> mhm
[18:35] <statusfailed> EriC^^: sadly no :(
[18:35] <statusfailed> it's weird, it even loads the nvidia drivers when you go into the recovery mode -> networking
[18:35] <statusfailed> I don't see why that would be
[18:36] <statusfailed> and it keep vomiting nvidia driver errors soI can't see what else is going on
[18:38] <EriC^^> statusfailed: which ubuntu version is it?
[18:38] <statusfailed> EriC^^: 16.04
[18:39] <NotLim> have you tried with nvidia.blacklist=1 , at boot?
[18:39] <statusfailed> Where do I put that?
[18:39] <geetar1> From the command line, I type "libreoffice".  Result:  "The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed."  Then I type "sudo apt-get install libreoffice".  Result:  "libreoffice is already the newest version (1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2)."  Any ideas?
[18:39] <NotLim> before ubuntu boots
[18:39] <NotLim> in kernel parameters
[18:40] <NotLim> ( https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+question/194968 )
[18:41] <EriC^^> statusfailed: try adding "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" to the kernel line in grub, follow the instructions here and replace nomodeset with systemd.unit....
[18:41] <EriC^^> !nomodeset > statusfailed
[18:42] <statusfailed> Huh, it's at least gotten on the network 'cause I can ssh in
[18:42] <statusfailed> I might just try upgrading nvidia remotely
[18:42] <NotLim> statusfailed : https://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[18:44] <EriC^^> statusfailed: pressing ctrl+alt+f2 should give you a physical console
[18:45] <statusfailed> EriC^^: weirdly not
[18:45] <EriC^^> oh
[18:46] <statusfailed> It's really strange,because I get text output on booting, but it looks like*some* job is failing to finish, then I get a black screen and can't even use ctrl+alt+f2
[18:46] <TJ-> statusfailed: EriC^^ if in recovery mode there is usually only tty1
[18:46] <statusfailed> I tried F1 too :-)
[18:46] <statusfailed> but this is normal boot
[18:46] <TJ-> statusfailed: do you have a command-line ?
[18:46] <statusfailed> TJ-: nope, only SSH
[18:47] <TJ-> statusfailed: ok, try this: "sudo systemctl start multi-user.target" see if that gets you further ( that should get the logind running on the tty's amongst other things)
[18:47] <EriC^^> statusfailed: cat /var/log/{X0rg.0.log,syslog} | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:47] <EriC^^> statusfailed: cat /var/log/{Xorg.0.log,syslog} | nc termbin.com 9999   typo
[18:49] <mojtaba> ssh -Tv git@github.com says "You've successfully authenticated", but when I try to push it gives me: "Permission denied (publickey)." Does anybody know what could be wrong?
[18:49] <mojtaba> (I have more than one github account.)
[18:49] <oerheks> y
[18:50] <TJ-> mojtaba: have you got the correct ssh key id in grub's config?
[18:50] <TJ-> mojtaba: or alternatively, the alias in SSH's ~/.ssh/config ?
[18:52] <mojtaba> TJ-: I have these:
[18:52] <mojtaba> Host github.com-github
[18:52] <mojtaba> HostName github.com
[18:52] <mojtaba>  user git
[18:52] <mojtaba>   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/github
[18:52] <mojtaba> Host github.com-uw
[18:52] <mojtaba>    HostName github.com
[18:52] <mojtaba>    user git
[18:52] <mojtaba>    IdentityFile ~/.ssh/Git-am
[18:52] <mojtaba> oops
[18:52] <TJ-> mojtaba: that looks sane, as long as in your push you're doing git push github.com-github ...
[18:53] <TJ-> mojtaba: but you've got the same 'user' (github account name) there, so it'll likely be sending the wrong key
[18:54] <mojtaba> TJ-: The command is git push -u origin master
[18:54] <mojtaba> TJ-: So, you mean I have to change git to my username?
[18:55] <nacc> mojtaba: what is your .git/config? or .gitconfig depending
[18:55] <nacc> for that remote, i mean (origin)
[18:55] <TJ-> mojtaba: right, but what does "git remote -v show" say you've got configured for the upstream?
[18:55] <nacc> my guess is it's just github.com
[18:55] <nacc> your config seems wonky at best, and fragile generally :)
[18:56] <mojtaba> TJ-: origin	git@github.com:Mojtaba/Sh.git (fetch)
[18:56] <mojtaba> TJ-: I don't have user defined in my git config.
[18:56] <nacc> you are fetching as the git user.
[18:56] <nacc> i guess
[18:57]  * nacc doesn't think this is ubuntu support anymore
[18:57] <EriC^^> Drone has become self-aware, we're all doomed
[18:57] <nacc> EriC^^: heh
[18:57] <EriC^^> :D
[18:58] <mojtaba> nacc: So, should I change git to my user account?
[18:58] <nacc> mojtaba: i don't know what exactly you are doing or why
[18:58] <nacc> mojtaba: but it seems like you're doing double configuration in git and ssh
[18:58] <nacc> just do it in one or the other
[18:58] <mojtaba> nacc: I have a file in my computer and I want to push it to my github account
[18:59] <TJ-> mojtaba: see https://help.github.com/articles/error-permission-denied-publickey/
[18:59] <mojtaba> nacc: I changed the user name in .ssh/config to my github username, it is not working.
[19:00] <nacc> mojtaba: then you need to tell git to use that ssh host
[19:00] <Sefid_par> Hello. Can we install ubuntu on a client using ssh?
[19:01] <mojtaba> nacc: How should I do that?
[19:02] <nacc> mojtaba: in a pastebin (not in the channel), paste your ~/.ssh/config and your ~/.gitconfig and ~/.git/config for the repository
[19:02] <mojtaba> Thanks. It is fixed now. In git config I changed git@github.com to the alias that I created in ssh/config.
[19:02] <mojtaba> Thanks guys
[19:03] <Sefid_par> mojtaba: Your welcome :-)
[19:03] <Sefid_par> Hello. Can we install ubuntu on a client using ssh?
[19:03] <nacc> mojtaba: right
[19:03] <nacc> Sefid_par: that question does't really make sense
[19:03] <nacc> Sefid_par: you are ssh'd to a server and want to install ubuntu on it?
[19:04] <Sefid_par> I need a way to do ssh to the server then install ubuntu on it.
[19:04] <Sefid_par> I can do this with my os, Slackware
[19:04] <TJ-> Sefid_par: yes, if you use debootstrap and a chroot
[19:05] <nacc> TJ-: well, taht will install it in the chroot
[19:05] <nacc> TJ-: right? not exactly what Sefid_par said
[19:05] <nacc> Sefid_par: what are you actually trying to achieve? or why?
[19:06] <Sefid_par> nacc: You're right I think. The debootstrap seems to install it to a subdirectory.
[19:06] <Sinopsis> ok, so windows now supports easily teaming nics @ the os level for redundancy and increased bandwidth...is this easy to do in ubuntu?
[19:06] <TJ-> Sefid_par: nacc: exactly what he asked :) See https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/apds04.html
[19:06] <Sefid_par> TJ-: Thank you.
[19:06] <TJ-> Sefid_par: with debootstrap you set up your target file-systems, mount them to a directory such as /target/ whilst building the image, then set the boot loader to use those file-system(s) for rootfs and whatever else you've configured
[19:07] <Sefid_par> nacc: I want to install ubuntu to the client, and I have no Keyboard and monitor in it.
[19:07] <nacc> TJ-: ah, so i was reading Sefid_par's request as 'replace the running OS with a fresh install of ubuntu'
[19:08] <Sefid_par> nacc: The server has nothing on it.
[19:08] <Sefid_par> I wanted to do PXE boot at frist. But it doesn't give me control on installation process.
[19:09] <TJ-> nacc: that's possible too :) I've done that. started a VM on the target installing ubuntu-server, and had the VM on a raw block device of it's host
[19:09] <nacc> TJ-: i believe that doc creates a secod install, which will be ubuntu
[19:09] <nacc> TJ-: second relative to whatever you are ssh'd into
[19:10] <TJ-> nacc: true, then you delete the original (other OS) when the system has rebooted into Ubuntu. Using LVM to manage the storage makes adding that other OS'es storage into the Ubuntu pool trivial with a "pvcreate /dev/oldOS; vgextend vg-ubuntu /dev/oldOS;"
[19:10] <statusfailed> EriC^^, TJ- thanks for your help; got booting after the SSH-upgrade. Turns out my syslog is 55M of nvidia error spew though :D
[19:10] <TJ-> statusfailed: ouch!
[19:11] <nacc> TJ-: yep, that makes sennse. That was the disconnect I had
[19:11] <TJ-> nacc: yeah, we missed ou badly for 17 seconds :p
[19:27] <kiroma> Why has Firefox been reverted to version 50 in Artful?
[19:29] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | kiroma
[19:40] <neyder> hi, i'm looking how to build an ubuntu server installer with more pacakges available to install, and some customization
[19:41] <tomreyn> !preseed
[19:42] <tomreyn> neyder: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/armhf/apbs02.html
[19:45] <neyder> tomreyn: ty, i know preseeding and i can automate with network boting, but it uses a network mirror of all repo, i want an ISO/USB image that contains many pacakges , i'm looking how to build that images (mainly about how to put a cdrom repo with just all packages and dependencies needed)
[19:45] <tomreyn> !remaster | neyder
[20:25] <zarzar1> hi i am getting a file not found for executables built on 12 LTS when i try to run them on 16LTS
[20:29] <nacc> zarzar1: that seems totally expected
[20:29] <nacc> zarzar1: unless you statically linked them
[20:30] <zarzar1> yocto linked them
[20:31] <tomreyn> you shouldn't use those binaries anymore since they cannot be getting any security patches (unless you bouhgt extra long term support from canonical)
[20:32] <Ben64> well no matter what those binaries aren't getting patches
[20:32] <seven-eleven> what kernel version does 17.04 currently have
[20:32] <seven-eleven> uname -a
[20:32] <Ben64> 4.10
[20:33] <seven-eleven> hm, thanks. thats same as 16.0.4
[20:33] <Ben64> yep thats with HWE
[20:34] <nacc> zarzar1: i'm not sure what you thought would happen
[20:38] <zarzar1> if its missing libraries that should be solvable
[20:39] <nacc> not if those libraries, e.g., no longer exist
[20:39] <tgm4883> zarzar1: did you build the executables?
[20:39] <zarzar1> but its open source, open source is better and has no problems
[20:40] <tgm4883> oh, this is one of those...
[20:41] <oerheks> don't put Fiat parts on a mercedes..
[20:41] <zarzar1> tgm4883: i built the toolchain installer in yocto dora 1.5, then installed the toolchain, then moved it to 16LTS
[20:41] <zarzar1> because yocto dora 1.5 doesn't work on 16LTS
[20:42] <zarzar1> all i know is that more changes are better
[20:43] <oerheks> zarzar1, probably because of SystemD
[20:43] <Ben64> build it in ubuntu?
[20:59] <Loan-Wolf> now i rember why i stoped useing irc
[21:00] <Loan-Wolf> there a linux to englis websight that explains wine and how to use it to a windows 7 user ?
[21:01] <oerheks> sure, see the wine factoid
[21:01] <oerheks> !wine
[21:02] <oerheks> ant they love to explain it to you in #winehq
[21:02] <gunqqer_> I'm trying to test out Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro but when I boot to my USB and select the just try it out option screen goes black then an underscore appears in the top left of my screen. what am I doing wrong
[21:05] <gunqqer> Anyone know what is going wrong for me?
[21:07] <oerheks> gunqqer, all i know is the ( outdated ) wiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro , did you search for your macbook version + ubuntu version?
[21:07] <gunqqer> I haven't, I'll try it, thanks
[21:08] <gunqqer> well, the command it wants me to use doesn't exist, so yeah... very much outdated
[21:08] <gunqqer> urgh
[21:08] <gunqqer> troubleshooting
[21:10] <geetar1> nacc: are you available for question?
[21:11] <geetar1> nacc: a couple days ago you started to help with a problem I had, but I had an appt and could not finish the issue
[21:12] <geetar1> I am trying to get libreoffice working again.  I seem to have deleted a necessary file and purge and install does not fix it
[21:12] <geetar1> I hate to start over and wipe my system for one program.
[21:14] <geetar1> Anyone else?  The GUI app start menu complains that libkdeinit5_libreoffice is not found.
[21:15] <tomreyn> geetar1: which ubuntu version do you use, which file did oyu delete?
[21:15] <geetar1> I cant find anywhere to install this lib file
[21:15] <geetar1> tomreyn: 16.04.
[21:16] <geetar1> tomreyn: I really don't remember what file.  I thought I was deleting just cache files, but apparently I deleted something more important.
[21:17] <geetar1> I thought I had a corrupt config or cache file.
[21:17] <tomreyn> geetar1: did you use sudo to delete it?
[21:17] <tomreyn> is this ubuntu 16.04 all up to date?
[21:17] <tgm4883> geetar1: a cache file? From your home directory?
[21:20] <geetar1> tomreyn: yes, updated and aptitude updated.
[21:20] <tomreyn> geetar1: start libreoffice from a temrinal and post the temrinal output to a pastebin
[21:21] <tomreyn> geetar1: please also show a screen shot of this "libkdeinit5_libreoffice" error message
[21:21] <geetar1> tgm4883: cache file from my home directory?  Interesting question.  This was 3 days ago and I can't remember where the cache files were, but I *believe* they were from the home directory.
[21:22] <tgm4883> geetar1: that's why a reinstall doesn't work. Reinstall's don't touch files in your home directory
[21:23] <geetar1> tgm4883: from a different admin account, libreoffice will not work and from my general working account, libreoffice will not start.
[21:23] <oerheks> remove ~/.config/libreoffice and start LO again? they will be recreated
[21:23] <tgm4883> oerheks: +1
[21:25] <oerheks> i checked ~/.cache but no LO folders there
[21:28] <geetar1> tomreyn: libreoffice is in the GUI menu.  It tries to start and then fails with no error message.
[21:28] <geetar1> tomreyn: tgm4883 from the command line, libreoffice --> "/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash: error while loading shared libraries: libuno_sal.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[21:29] <kostkon> !find libuno_sal.so.3 xenial
[21:29] <kostkon> !find libuno_sal.so.3
[21:31] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/amd64/uno-libs3/filelist
[21:31] <oerheks> geertry to remove ~/.config/libreoffice first, and start LO again..
[21:33] <geetar1> oerheks: no help.  Removed the configs and same result.  Except:  I said I get the "libkdeinit5_libreoffice" error message when I start from gui menu.  I now get no error message.  It just stops loading.  I dont believe this is related to trashing the configs.
[21:34] <geetar1> I think no gui error is because I loaded more packages with aptitude.
[21:34] <geetar1> Not sure
[21:34] <oerheks> geetar1, unlikely, the config files will be recreated
[21:34] <tomreyn> geetar1: sudo apt-get reinstall uno-libs3
[21:38] <geetar1> tomreyn: should that be install --reinstall?
[21:39] <tomreyn> geetar1: it should be, sorry
[21:39] <adrian_1908> Hello. I want to try one of these light dimming/coloring applications. Which one would you guys recommend? I found "f.lux" and "Redshift".
[21:39] <adrian_1908> p.s. using XFCE
[21:40] <oerheks> redshift is in our repositories..
[21:41] <kostkon> !info redshift
[21:41] <oerheks> for F.lux you would need to install a PPA, not recommended > https://itsfoss.com/night-shift-flux-ubuntu-linux/
[21:41] <adrian_1908> Ok, I'll give Redshift a try first.
[21:47] <geetar1> tomreyn: something about sudo apt-get install -reinstall got me a splash screen -- but still fails with no error message on GUI menu.
[21:47] <tomreyn> geetar1: then run it form a temrinal again
[21:48] <tomreyn> geetar1: and solve the next error, and repeat until it launches fine
[21:48] <geetar1> tomreyn: terminal says:  Warning: failed to launch javaldx - java may not function correctly
[21:48] <geetar1> /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjvmaccesslo.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:49] <geetar1> tomreyn: apt-get cant find soffice.bin
[21:50] <tomreyn> geetar1: that's a file, not a package name
[21:50] <tomreyn> geetar1: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ure
[21:53] <geetar1> tomreyn: magic.  will you reveal your trick?
[21:53] <geetar1> I don't understand
[21:53] <geetar1> But libreoffice started.
[21:53] <geetar1> Looks like it is working.  What is ure?
[21:53] <tomreyn> geetar1: for the future, keep in mind that you should not delete random files which are parts of packages. removing files from /usr/lib or /usr/bin is almost always a bad idea.
[21:54] <geetar1> tomreyn: yep, I learned the hard way. I thought the package manager would reinstall whatever I deleted.  Duh!
[21:54] <tomreyn> geetar1: it's the package that contains the libjvmaccesslo.so shared library: "dpkg -S libjvmaccesslo.so" tells me so (since i also have this package installed here), but you could also search for this on the bottom of http://packages.ubuntu.com
[21:55] <geetar1> tomreyn: thanks a bunch
[21:55] <geetar1> tomreyn: you saved me a lot of time from starting over.
[21:56] <tomreyn> welcome
[21:56] <adrian_1908> Played around with redshift and it seems to work just fine (also on XFCE), I'll keep using it. You can keep recommending that ;)
[21:57] <oerheks> adrian_1908, have fun!
[22:02] <Term1nal> Hey folks.... really weird issue. I have a pair brand-new flash drives that won't detect. I get error -71 in the kernel log for not "responding" or "accepting" a "setup address".
[22:02] <Term1nal> I have a flash drive from the same product line (they look identical, same brand, but it's 32gigs whereas the ones I'm having trouble with are 16gigs) that works perfectly.
[22:03] <Term1nal> I can unplug the ones that don't work and plug in that one and it's fine.
[22:03] <Term1nal> same port.
[22:03] <Term1nal> I rebooted, disconnected power from the power supply and let it drain the caps, no idea.
[22:03] <Term1nal> The flash drives work in another PC without discernable issue.
[22:04] <TJ-> Term1nal: how are they interfaced? USB, eSATA, something else?
[22:05] <Term1nal> tried USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports.
[22:05] <Term1nal> https://ghostbin.com/paste/dk7oc
[22:08] <TJ-> Term1nal: It looks like you've got a hardware issue somewhere but you look to have done all the obvious comparison tests
[22:08] <Term1nal> I work as a PC repair tech so I try to at least be somewhat competent in that respect.
[22:08] <Term1nal> This is the first time I've had this kind of issue.
[22:09] <TJ-> Term1nal: are there other devices connected to the USB ports of that PC? I'm wondering if there's some problem with the USB hub and multiple devices
[22:09] <Term1nal> no other flash drives have ever exhibited this in my system.
[22:09] <TJ-> Term1nal: looks like the XHCI driver (USB3) is getting fed the port so presumably they are USB3 devices?
[22:09] <Term1nal> and I can connect other flash drives all day to all of the ports and they just work :D
[22:10] <Term1nal> they are USB3.0 flash drives, yeah.
[22:10] <Term1nal> only things I have plugged in currently are my usb keyboard/mouse.
[22:11] <TJ-> Term1nal: without a logic analyser it's hard to know what's going on but I'd start looking for any BIOS/firmware chipset config, overclock/voltage settings, and so on that are out of the ordinary
[22:11] <Term1nal> bios is latest revision for my board, no overclocking, everything bog-standard stock settings.
[22:12] <TJ-> Term1nal: Is it an AMD CPU system?
[22:12] <Term1nal> 3rd generation intel core i5
[22:12] <TJ-> Term1nal: I've seen similar issues due to bad IOMMU firmware setup
[22:12] <TJ-> for which a workaround can sometimes be to boot with "iommu=soft" on the kernel command line
[22:13] <Term1nal> I don't believe I'm employing any IOMMU
[22:13] <TJ-> Term1nal: but there's nothing in your kernel log to suggest anything specific. At the 34 second mark the device had been recognised then by 71 seconds it failed, is that about correct?
[22:13] <Term1nal> VT-d I believe is disabled.
[22:13] <Term1nal> yeah
[22:14] <Term1nal> I was waiting for it to show up as a mounted directory
[22:14] <TJ-> Term1nal: IOMMU is usually a part of the chipset.
[22:14] <TJ-> Term1nal: Firmware. See this https://askubuntu.com/questions/332927/troubles-connecting-usb3-drive#387882
[22:15] <Term1nal> strange. It's not the only port I tried, I tried "front panel" ports (usb header connected to a breakout female type-A)
[22:16] <Term1nal> but in this log printout, it was connected to the back of the machine
[22:16] <TJ-> Term1nal: well that is an easy change to make and test
[22:16] <TJ-> I see a similar bug report on Redhat but there was no follow-up from the reporter
[22:17] <Term1nal> flash drive is ADATA UV128/16GB model
[22:17] <Term1nal> the other drive that works as expected is ADATA UV128/32GB model
[22:18] <Term1nal> I tried 3 of the UV128/16GB (opening them fresh out of the package)
[22:18] <Term1nal> and all exhibited the same problem
[22:18] <TJ-> Term1nal: There's some interesting background as to what is going on in this kernel mailing-list thread: http://linux-usb.vger.kernel.narkive.com/RXTOhgh5/patch-usb-skip-u1-u2-lpm-disable-if-device-is-disconnected
[22:31] <xz> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 (server, no GUI) trying to update to 16.04. Apparently there are multiple ways of doing that. /etc/motd suggests I do 'do-release-upgrade', random tutorials on google suggest using 'update-manager -c' ( http://robots.mobilerobots.com/wiki/Upgrading_Ubuntu_Linux_12.04_(precise)_to_Ubuntu_16.04_(xenial) ) and also I know about apt-get dist-upgrade (assuming sources.list is configured correctly). What's the bes
[22:31] <xz> t method?
[22:31] <xz> Also, I'm behind the proxy, I know it matters
[22:34] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | xz
[22:35] <tomreyn> xz: the latter is for you, but also be aware that you are late with the upgrade, you ran an unsupported release for half a year.
[22:36] <xz> tomreyn: I inherited some infrastructure that I'm trying to fix now
[22:37]  * xrandr yawns
[22:41] <xz> tomreyn: ok, I'm running server with no GUI, so for me it seems it's down to 3 commands: apt-get update / dist-upgrade / do-release-upgrade
[22:42] <xz> tomreyn: not sure if I should touch linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic packages independently
[22:45] <tomreyn> xz: the kernel packages should get upgraded automatically while you run these commands, just make sure both those packages are already installed. you will also need to edit sources.list as discusse don this page.
[22:45] <xz> tomreyn: yeah, I have apt-get already fixed
[22:53] <tomreyn> xz: so make sure you have current, complete and intact backups. then do "sudo apt-get update" + "sudo apt-get -f install" + "sudo apt-get upgrade " + "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". since you inherited this system, if you assume there may have been custom packages installed, you could try the foreign_packages script from https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts to clean those up. finally, run "sudo do-release-upgrade".
[22:53] <xz> tomreyn: what does 'foreign_packages' script do?
[22:55] <tomreyn> xz: the page i pointed oyu to discusses this
[22:58] <xz> tomreyn: I think wget from the script is stuck at proxy somewhere :/
[22:59] <tomreyn> xz: you can set the proxy using the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
[23:00] <tomreyn> that's assuming it IS an HTTP proxy, not SOCKS
[23:02] <xz> tomreyn: foreign_packages lists 941 packages
[23:03] <xz> many of them say 'newer than version in archive', some also say 'no available version in archive'
[23:03] <xz> tomreyn: and some say 'uptodate'
[23:06] <xz> tomreyn: and for no reason /var/log/apt/history.log shows only activity since Sep 2017; sounds unbelievable that nobody used apt-get before
[23:07] <xz> tomreyn: maybe the script is tripping over the old-releases ? as that's what I changed in sources.list to get apt-get up and running
[23:07] <gunqqer> so I'm trying to install ubuntu and when I boot to the USB and select what I want to do (try or install) it just goes to a blank screen and does nothing. I'm using the right version of ubuntu for my macbook pro and idk what to do
[23:09] <tomreyn> xz: hmm, i don't have an eol system here to test it on, but 'newer than version in archive' would suggest that what sources.list pointed to when you last ran "sudo apt-get update" contains older packages version sof these packages.
[23:10] <xz> tomreyn: well I changed sources.list from 'releases' to 'old-releases' so I can see how both of them have different versions of pkgs. That wouldn't be desired, however.
[23:10] <tomreyn> xz: so the conclusion there would suggest you may not have run "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", yet
[23:10] <xz> tomreyn: sure, what do you suggest I do then?
[23:11] <tomreyn> xz: did you run "sudo apt-get update", "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" before running the foreign_packages script?
[23:11] <xz> tomreyn: nope, I haven't approach yet upgrading the distro
[23:11] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | gunqqer
[23:12] <xz> tomreyn: I'm right now doing prework, making sure everything is set to go
[23:12] <tomreyn> xz: okay, well it's what i suggested you should do before you run the script
[23:12] <gunqqer> thanks!
[23:12] <xz> tomreyn: oh, I thought I should run the script before updating the OS to understand which pkgs might potentially be broken (e.g. these installed using dpkg or some other way)
[23:14] <tomreyn> xz: maybe it wasn't obvious from what i wrote at :53, but this was meant to be the order in which you run things.
[23:15] <gunqqer> Bashing-om: I have a macbook pro which (as I understand it, whch is bearly when it comes to really technical things) doesn't have a BIOS but an EFI (or some combanation of those letters) how do I change  kernal options?
[23:15] <xz> tomreyn: ok, that's fine. I'm doing the OS upgrade now then
[23:15] <xz> tomreyn: and afterwards I will play with foreign_packages
[23:16] <Bashing-om> !mac | gunqqer
[23:16] <gunqqer> ty
[23:17] <Bashing-om> gunqqer: Try'n to help . I am at the disadvantage as I have no Mac experience .
[23:18] <gunqqer> I have only OS X experience so a lot of help people give doesn't help me, thanks for what you do give
[23:18] <kode54> what's new in 4.4.0-96? I can't find a changelog
[23:19] <tomreyn> xz: so my suggestion was to do the do-release-upgrade after running the script (but all other apt commands before that)+
[23:20] <xz> tomreyn: it's doing dist-upgrade now
[23:20] <tomreyn> xz: that's because you should have a clean state before starting the release upgrade and this script tries to verify that is the case.
[23:20] <tomreyn> otherwise do-release-upgrade may fail.
[23:20] <xz> tomreyn: I can run the foreign_script fight after
[23:20] <kode54> oh
[23:21] <kode54> I see it includes the bluetooth fixes, which are meaningless in the environment of a VPS
[23:21] <kode54> right, I see all of the changes are specific to hardware that doesn't exist in servers
[23:21] <kode54> so I can postpone that
[23:30] <xz> tomreyn: dist-upgrade takes a lot of time. It's only 33% now
[23:33] <tomreyn> xz: you are upgrading a potentially large number of packages potentially through a slow network link, this can take a while.
[23:39] <tomreyn> oh, i guess you have fast network links where you work. but still, if disk i/o isn't fast,t his can take a while.
[23:44] <xz> tomreyn: ok, dist-upgrade finished. ./foreign_packages shows 945 packages
[23:44] <xz> tomreyn: most of them are 'newer than version in archive'
[23:45] <xz> tomreyn: but many of them are also 'uptodate'. I don't know why they are being printed here
[23:48] <tomreyn> xz: can you show your sources.list?
[23:48] <tomreyn> xz: actually show "apt-cache policy"
[23:49] <xz> https://pastebin.com/wcSffSvF
[23:53] <tomreyn> xz: did you not say you had ubuntu 12.04 there? that would be codename 'precise', what you have in sources.list is 'lucid', which is 10.04
[23:53] <TJ-> tomreyn: there is both lucid and precise, both from old-releases
[23:54] <tomreyn> TJ-: right. still, why lucid?
[23:55] <xz> tomreyn: let's get that step by step.
[23:55] <tomreyn> (and yes, i missed 'precise')
[23:55] <TJ-> tomreyn: not been following so far, but presumably the system has been release-upgraded before
[23:55] <xz> tomreyn: so lsb_releas -a says Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (precise)
[23:56] <xz> tomreyn: sources.list is here: https://pastebin.com/6Ekz5RQZ
[23:56] <TJ-> tomreyn: best to find out which, if any, installed packages are from lucid :)
[23:56] <xz> tomreyn: and it indeed points to some lucid stuff that I didn't touch as it says #to fix the error 404 ...
[23:57] <tomreyn> xz: okay, so you can just comment out the lines containing 'lucid' off sources.list (and files in sources.list.d/)
[23:58] <xz> tomreyn: in sources.list.d I only have openjdk-ppa-precise; as it's from precise I think I can leave it as is
[23:58] <xz> tomreyn: I removed lucid stuff from sources.list, will do apt-get update
[23:58] <tomreyn> xz: if this ppa still exists and is still maintained you could keep it, otherwise use ppa-purge to remove it.