=== feodoran is now known as Guest85791 === feodoran_ is now known as feodoran [00:26] is there a way to capture the state of a number of terminal windows, and their sizes, locations and current commands? [00:26] I want something that will capture the state of a number of terminal windows and that lets me re-open them all with their current states [00:34] delinquentme, so just trying have say 5 terminals reopen all at once? [00:35] Fretegi, Partially, yes. Including the terminal height / width ... position on the desktop and the commands they're currently running [00:36] delinquentme, well a workaround for that could be the program terminator [00:37] Fretegi, link to the package? [00:38] delinquentme, lets you split many terminals into one window that you can save as a layout. so say 6 terminal windows. and should remember the window position [00:38] apt-get install terminator [00:39] should be in the ubuntu repos, is for ubuntu-mate at least [00:40] delinquentme, https://gnometerminator.blogspot.com/p/introduction.html [00:40] that shows you a few screenshots that may be helpful [00:40] Submitted a bug report about systemtap, switched distros to Fedora....the end of an era :( [00:41] anyone here proficient with infinality-ultimate? === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [00:44] Fretegi, me gusta. [00:44] tyahkee [00:44] thankee* [00:45] delinquentme, that work out? [00:45] Fretegi, it looks promising ... but I need to put a pause on trying it out :D [00:45] delinquentme, gotcha. yea its pretty snazzy, i think it will meet your needs once you create a layout :) [00:46] Is it pretty intuitive? or do I need a tutorial to get it sorted out? [00:51] delinquentme, stupid easy [00:55] Hey [00:56] hi [00:56] Is there anyway to automatically disable the lock screen when I have a PlayStation controller plugged in? [00:56] and enable it when it's not plugged in? [00:58] maybe a config file somewhere for that but im not aware of it [00:58] I was thinking I could use a script to detect it (DBUS or maybe if SDL has some event for it), but I would prefer something *simpler*, as well as the fact that I don't really have a clue about DBUS [00:59] Do you have any idea what the config file might be? [00:59] i dont unfortunately, perhaps someone here does [00:59] Okay, thanks anyway. ") [01:00] sorry i couldnt help :) [01:00] It's fine lol [01:00] Hey there. Dusting off an old machine that had 14.10 on it. I was able to use EOL Upgrades to dist-upgrade to 15.04, now I'm kind of stuck [01:00] Marikos: just reinstall it [01:00] so screen just going to lock mode after a period of time? [01:00] Marikos: otehwries you still need to do the same to go 15.10 then 16.04 [01:01] old-releases 404's and main says I'm up to date [01:01] That's the problem, I'm stuck. [01:02] I don;t mind taking the long road to get to 17.04 [01:02] I just got an idea, I could use cron to run every few minutes and then run a pygame script to check and run the appropriate gnome command. Thanks anyway! [01:02] this machine doesn't have an optical drive, and I don't have any spare usb sticks [01:02] At least none handy [01:02] Fretegi: Sorry, I didn't see that you responded, but yeah, that's exactly what happens [01:03] If you have a better solution than mine, I'd appreciate that. [01:04] sourceslayer, interesting solution. but you could also just quickly set it to not lock prior to gaming and then reset the setting to lock [01:06] sourceslayer, forgive my ignorance but cannot remember the name of the settings tool [01:06] i run ubuntu-mate, things slightly different [01:07] soemthing settings probably ha [01:07] Ah, that's a setting in the standard settings menu [01:07] should be [01:07] I'm just sure that I would forget to enable it again and that wouldn't be good as I'm around people who can be rather nosy at times. [01:08] im just not familiar at all with unity, if thats what your using.. i mean i have goofed around and figured out what i needed, but went with mate, more like gnome2 and im most familiar with that [01:09] Well, I'll probably be switching to MATE since Unity is discontinued [01:09] See you later, thanks for the help [01:09] your welcome [01:12] Marikos: Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades . What is the upgrade path set to ( Prompt=??? ) . [01:14] Bashing-om: It's set to normal [01:15] Marikos: And have you reset the sources.list for the 15.10 upgrade next ? [01:16] Bashing-om: I tried doing that, however all I got were 404's when I did apt update [01:17] old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is specifically missing vivid releases [01:20] Marikos: ouch. Sorry no further ideas on my part . [01:21] Marikos, contact a LUG/loco near you and get them to write you one [01:21] Bashing-om: no worries. not a huge deal, this is a utility laptop I pulled out of mothballs because it has a phstical eth interface [01:22] !loco | Marikos [01:22] Marikos: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [01:22] bazhang: I probably have one around here somewhere, was just trying to avoid wiping this box, mainly because leaving it sit for a while is easier than resetting everything up XD [01:24] There's actually a group here in NJ, doesn't seem super active though... [01:24] my old LUG seems to have disbanded [01:25] Marikos, if you read thta link, you'll see that some have channels here on irc as well [01:26] I'll check it out [01:26] Thanks :) [01:26] np === KindTwo is now known as KindOne === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === ShaRose_ is now known as ShaRose === KindTwo is now known as KindOne === mundus is now known as mundus2018 [03:27] completely new to linux, trying to add a new drive to a fresh install...when i type blkid, i dont see it listed, but i see it listed if i do lshw -class disk, how do i get the uuid to put in fstab if it doesnt show in blkid [03:29] Sinopsis , sudo blkid? [03:30] yea, doesnt show up [03:30] if it makes a difference, the drives probably have partitions on them already out of another box, not sure if it was windows or *nix [03:31] Sinopsis: ' sudo fdisk -lu ' see the drive ? [03:34] no [03:35] Sinopsis: check the cable and power to the drive . also is it seen by bios when booting up ? [03:36] it shows up in bios and like i said, if i do lshw -class disk [03:38] dreamon__: ?? [03:40] Sinopsis: If fdisk does not see it, there is a problem . stick the drive in a Windows box ?? [03:41] if i have it in the box during install, it sees it fine, i'm just trying to add it after the fact to learn how [03:43] does it see the drive in the bios of the machine [03:43] yes [03:44] whhich is why it also shows up when I do lshw -C disk [03:53] hello, pls i m in trouble, i m trying to run a php file on a localhost but i m still facing error, can anyone please assist? here is my config at `sites-available` folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/25584061/ [03:57] so, after using gdisk, i can see that they were microsoft hybrid partitions, i destroyed them and created a new one and now it shows in fdisk -l, but still not in blkid [03:59] afidegnum: Sinopsis is having hdd issues [03:59] ??? [03:59] that, i m not much familiar with it [04:00] Sinopsis: how did you format the HDD? what type of partition did you give it ? [04:00] well was letting you know so you did not think he was talkig to you [04:00] its a drive out of an old server, not even sure what was on it...used gdisk to delete the "corrupt" partition, now trying to use parted to partition it [04:00] Sinopsis: "sudo wipefs /dev/sda". Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) and their offsets. [04:01] i think i was making progress, trying to use parted now and was about to create the partition and it warned me that it wasn't optimal [04:01] Sinopsis: oich .. replace /sda with the correct target drove . [04:01] how do i get that [04:02] wipefs lists 0x200 gpt [04:03] so...wipefs --all /dev/sda ? [04:04] hope so, because i just did it :) [04:05] Sinopsis: Ouch ! Is not sda the system drive ??? [04:05] is that the only drive in the sys and your running on the live cd? [04:05] for some reason now [04:05] *no [04:05] sdb is for some reason [04:06] what label type should i create now after wiping it? gpt? [04:11] Sinopsis: Not teally . but depends . a storage drive with lots of large files? then yes GPT has some advantages over msdos . [04:12] well, what i want to do is after i figure out what i'm doing with this one drive, then add 7 more and create raid 5 array for my security camera system in the house [04:12] the files will be a few 100mb each as i have it configured for each camera to save files in 15 min increments [04:13] so...msdos or gpt? [04:13] Sinopsis: GPT will be somewhat faster . [04:14] ok....thats what i did, then i ran 'sudo parted -a optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%' [04:14] Sinopsis: (4096 block size ) [04:14] and then ran sudo blkid and i see my disk now... [04:15] '/dev/sda1: PARTLABEL="primary" PARTUUID="1fdad7d5-91c5-444d-9261-2522acb7f49d"' [04:15] i put this in my /etc/fstab [04:15] ' UUID="1fdad7d5-91c5-444d-9261-2522acb7f49d" /nvr ext4 0 2 ' [04:15] and tried to mount it,and get an error that it cant find it [04:16] Sinopsis: :) .. Windows meta data I guess the cause here . [04:16] didnt we purge that with wipefs [04:17] Sinopsis: Yes wipefs should have .. what now is the mount point for the drive ? [04:17] /nvr [04:18] Sinopsis: Does it exist ' ls -al /nvr ' ? [04:19] not sure what you mean....i did sudo mkdir /nvr [04:19] that command returns total 8, with . and .. lines [04:21] when i change the line in fstab to PARTUUID, i get a different error [04:21] wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, [04:21] missing codepage or helper program, or other error [04:21] dmesg | tail returns [ 4576.574493] EXT4-fs (sda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem [04:23] Sinopsis: Let's mint the drive from teminal, see what results . the drive still seen as sda ? with a sda1 as the partition target ? [04:23] mount/mint [04:24] one sec, that command i used earlier...what kind of file system did it create, because it wasn't specified on the command line [04:24] 'sudo parted -a optimal /dev/sda mkpart primary 0% 100%' [04:24] Sinopsis: ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /nvr ' . [04:25] sec, need to recreate the partition [04:27] i get the same error i posted above [04:28] [ 4939.012393] EXT4-fs (sda1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem [04:28] gonna use this drive for cctv recordings? [04:28] yea [04:28] ok [04:32] it looks likee its a bad superblock [04:33] Sinopsis: Never used parted to set up a drive . but looking at the man page I do not see where parted has the ability to format the file system type . That be gdisk for a GPT partition . [04:34] Sinopsis: " man parted " . [04:34] like i said, i'm like a total f'n noob @ linux, parted is what came up when i googled how to do it, i'm open to other commands [04:35] if gpt disk then gparted is your friend [04:37] Sinopsis: You'd be amazed at what I do not know . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive / In your case substitute gdisk for fdisk tool . [04:40] i was missing the mkfs step i think [04:40] https://hastebin.com/weluzalozu.sql -- Why is my boot up sequence taking so dang long, how to fix it? [04:42] yea, thats what it was, but now i need some clarification on the fstab stuff, its giving me an aerror about unrecognoized mount option 0 [04:42] what are the two #'s at the end of the line? [04:42] !who [04:42] As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [04:42] UUID="6bcebd6b-09c2-4cf8-9448-cb46a2332524" /nvr ext4 0 0 [04:43] Sinopsis: Make sure that the UUID is still valid ! other wise , looks good . [04:44] 3 minutes and 29 seconds seems a long time for a lubuntu bootup. [04:44] it didnt like the 0 0 at the end [04:44] not sure what they do [04:44] took them out and it mounted [04:47] * ArMedic shrugs [04:48] thx for the help, now...its mounted, how can i see its free space ( i know it should be 100%, but how do i see it), if i do df -h, it's not listed [04:48] ah thanks kadoban [04:52] so if anyone is available to help, i'd appreciate it' [04:52] Sinopsis: if it doesn't show up in df, then it isn't mounted [04:53] Sinopsis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab . [04:54] it said it was mounted [04:54] Sinopsis: ' mount ; is it mounted ? [04:55] just use df -h [04:55] sec, rebooting [04:55] should show you space used and left [04:56] last line of 'mount' [04:56] /dev/sdb on /nvr type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) [04:57] df -h is showing it now though after rebooting [04:57] probably wasn't mounted before rebooting [04:57] going to purge these other disks and get them functioning, then i'll be back for help raiding them :) [04:58] if you really want to learn about the in depth aspects of fstab and partitioning the look online at archlinux wiki fstab or partitioning [04:58] !raid | Sinopsis [04:58] Sinopsis: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [04:58] after an hour you will be a genius on both subjects [05:05] c [05:47] !ing [05:47] !ping [05:47] pong! [05:49] morning cfhowlett [05:49] hey ^3! lotuspsychje [05:49] Ping Pong Piong [05:50] !ping [05:50] pong! [05:56] someone ever succeeded to update a tomtom or garmin on ubuntu? [05:58] "what you ask has been done only once and even then, only in legend." [05:58] cfhowlett: this old via 135 tomtom doesnt even want update on w7 here [05:59] cfhowlett: you think a !bug would help the community? [05:59] I seem to recall that tomtom is about as functional as iphone/ipad on ubuntu, i.e minimally supported at best. [06:01] I G'd "update tomtom linux". doesn't look promising [06:01] https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3628 [06:02] think im gonna try this in a bit [06:02] virtualbox + windows + tomtom app? [06:03] yeah worth a try cfhowlett [06:20] the Internet wants me to log in [06:23] sounds like not an ubuntu issue. [06:32] whoops [06:33] I'll get back to you, when I have one, after I try to update - once I am logged into the Internet :P === cleartcut_ is now known as reuf [06:56] Question. Does Ubuntu support a way to disable the mouse on a laptop while typing. My screen continually jumps around while typing because I am brushing the mouse. I am currently using synclient fingerhigh=220 just to disbale it permanently but I have to alt+tab to get back to the terminal to lower it so i can use the mouse again [06:56] Maybe there is a simpler way than that. [06:57] I haven't found a working solution in my searches. [06:59] ArMedic: my ubuntu laptops do that automatically : / [06:59] Ben64, must be nice [07:00] ArMedic: did you try settings > mouse >off while typing? [07:00] actually, it's kind of annoying hah [07:00] EriC^^, I have no setting like that. [07:01] hmm neither do i, i think the other laptop has it or maybe it was a 14.04 option [07:01] ArMedic: what version ubuntu are you on [07:01] Ben64, Lubuntu 17.04 [07:01] oh [07:02] well i have a 16.04 laptop close to me, i'll see if i have a setting like that [07:03] nope [07:04] ArMedic: should be able to do that using syndaemon, unless things have changed since I last used it === pinux is now known as ppang [07:11] hello there [07:12] hello hello [07:12] i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on an asus ux501 using the minimal image. it can't find the network card. lspci -v shows the network controller is loaded, and is using the driver iwlwifi, however when i attempt to tell the installer to use this driver it still fails - any idea what may be wrong? [07:13] btw, trying to install 17.04 [07:14] vanek: fails how? [07:14] it simply jumps back to 'no ethernet card was detected' and offers me to choose a driver from a list [07:16] vanek: maybe it expects ethernet not wifi? [07:16] is there another option or something? [07:17] I found one that worked finally. Installation of touchpad-indicator worked. Whew. [07:17] has anyone found a solution for cifs mounts freezing applications that access them after they lost connection? the best solution i found would be to periodically "touch" them to keep them alive. maybe umount -l it if it takes more than 5s or something [07:17] EriC^^: sadly no, it is just the step for detect network card [07:18] i found an usb network adapter, lets see if it works === sammyg is now known as Guest16320 === hakra is now known as sammyg [07:19] nope doesnt work either [07:19] the funny thing is, that if i use the live usb, it detects my wireless card and im able to connect to it === KindTwo is now known as KindOne [07:39] alright, if i found the driver to the usb adapter, how do i provide it to the minimal cd installer? [07:44] hi, why doesn't LibreOffice Writer have a dictionary for the spell checker by default? thanks [07:54] emajor try asking the libreoffice people that [07:54] type /join #libreoffice [07:55] thanks [08:02] oh they left [08:02] It relies on distro packages for hunspell === albech1 is now known as albech [08:38] ahahah managed to get it [08:38] had to install a separate ubuntu vm on another box of mine with the same kernel as the installer uses [08:39] get the driver there, and move it via usb to the machine that is being installed [08:39] modprobe it during istallation, and now it finally finds the interface [08:39] i just dont understand why isnt the driver there during the installation [08:44] Hello! I'm trying to create a ubuntu installation on a usb device to use on my macbook. I'm currently using a persistent live and it works awesomely. But I would like to create a regular installation instead of a live. I created two partitions, one for the rootfs and the other for EFI. Is this correct? The macbook bootloader seems to detect the usb device. Now I need to properly populate the EFI partition to be able to boot the rootfs, but that is where I'm [08:44] failing. Can someone suggest a proper guide to accomplish this? [08:46] luc4: check here http://heeris.id.au/2014/ubuntu-plus-mac-pure-efi-boot/ [08:48] EriC^^: ah, I was following that yesterday. So that should be the proper way? [08:48] or at least one proper way [08:51] luc4: check here http://heeris.id.au/2014/ubuntu-plus-mac-pure-efi-boot/ === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [08:52] EriC^^: also I noticed that this guide says the mac requires the EFI partition to be HFS+. I however formatted it vfat and the mac seems to read it properly anyway... is this normal? Also this guide reports the command "ls -l (hd2,gpt2)", but I get an error with the -l param. Isn't it weird? [08:53] luc4: kind of, some uefi don't support ls -l in grub i guess [08:53] EriC^^: ok, I'll get the UUID from another system [08:53] EriC^^: thanks! [08:54] luc4: no problem [08:55] EriC^^: also, as the USB is detected by the bootloader also when EFI is vfat, do you think I still need to format it HFS+? [08:55] luc4: i guess so, you also need to "bless" grub [08:55] "bless"? [08:56] yeah, there's some package called hfsbless or something, it's later in the guide [08:56] Does Ubuntu work with the Surface Pro 4 yet? [08:56] I see [09:19] InternetUser: I think the subreddit is the place to check https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/ [09:23] thanx stooj [09:23] Why is suspend so hard for linux? [09:23] suspend isn't working for my Dell D620 with lubuntu 16.04 either [09:24] suspend or hibernate [09:24] or sleep [09:24] wb lotuspsychje [09:25] tnx EriC^^ [09:25] InternetUser, please dont use enter as punctuation [09:27] * InternetUser repents in sackcloth and ashes. [09:30] InternetUser: because the way many manufacturers implement it requires special drivers for windows, and they don't provide the necessary docs for open source developers. === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [09:34] ducasse you mean Dell assumed some basic component of the Windows OS when they put firmware on the hardware to regulate its operation? [09:34] and Ubuntu has to work with that firmware Dell put into the hardware? === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [09:37] InternetUser: they assume windows will be the os, and that particular drivers will be present so they don't need to adhere too strictly to a standard [09:38] InternetUser: any bugs or non-standard stuff in the firmware will be worked around by the drivers [09:40] Thank you. I think I understand. Have a good day. === yokel_ is now known as yokel [10:14] was there a kernel update yesterday for 16.04? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [10:18] Zakkor: no [10:20] was there any in these past few days? because a dkms module randomly broke and won't compile anymore and thats the only reason i can think of [10:21] Zakkor: for me the 96 kernel was installed on 9/18 [10:23] `4.10.0-35-generic #39~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 13 09:02:42 UTC`... that's weird. i rebooted every day, idk why it would break this morning [10:25] Zakkor: where is the kernel coming from? [10:25] that's not an ubuntu repo kernel [10:26] wtf. how can i find out? [10:26] unless are you using some kind of hwe stack? [10:26] Zakkor: try "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic" [10:27] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FZMmU1yR/ [10:27] Zakkor: nevermind, it looks like it's the zesty hwe kernel [10:29] Zakkor: hmm something is odd [10:29] this is the driver btw: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/rtl8812au-dkms [10:29] !info linux-generic-lts-zesty xenial [10:30] Package linux-generic-lts-zesty does not exist in xenial [10:31] oh ok, this is the package linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 [10:32] Zakkor: try grep -B4 "linux-image.*35" /var/log/apt/history.log to see when it was installed [10:33] yup, yesterday [10:38] Zakkor: aha [11:30] wich package would hold windows buttons, its for adding a !bug? [11:46] lotuspsychje: try dpkg -S /path/to/icon maybe ? [11:46] lotuspsychje: you mean the button image? system-wide, a theme. Otherwise, a DE or an application. Best way to find out if you know which image (or associated images) is "dpkg-query -S /path/to/file" which will report which package it is supplied by === jackNemrod_ is now known as jackNemrod [12:16] TJ- EriC^^ ill bug against gnome itself tnx, cant find the buttons icons [12:24] Howdy folks [12:36] yello! :) [12:37] Junior: welcome, how can we help? [12:38] helloo lotuspsychje, if you are not a bot :) [12:38] even if you are , hello :) [12:38] i am having issues with rsyslog - i don't get anything logged from sendmail [12:39] i have updated some packages on ubuntu 14.04 some days ago and since them, no logs in sendmail [12:39] i have replaced the 50-default.conf with a default one from web with the same result [12:40] any ideeas what is wrong? === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [12:48] Hey, any ideas why the delay between entering a password and getting logged in is so signifficant in ubuntu server 17.04? [12:49] through both ssh and a local terminal [12:50] jan64: is it a fresh install? [12:50] Yup [12:50] jan64: yes, it's running the /etc/update-motd.d/ scripts. You can disable that === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [12:51] ah, thanks! [12:52] jan64: how significant are we talking? [12:53] ~5 seconds [12:53] Well, it's not horrible [12:53] jan64: what cpu is it? [12:53] mine takes about 0.5 sec to login [12:54] old one, intel E5200 oc'd to 3.2 Ghz [12:54] and the drive's a hdd, too. [12:55] jan64: it depends on how many core file-systems are defined too, because the MOTD usually calculates free space for the key ones rootfs /var/ etc [12:58] jan64: try "sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/" and see if it takes 5secs [12:59] Yup, it does. [12:59] jan64: if you want to disable it on login remove motd from the PAM config /etc/pam.d/ [13:00] jan64: supplied by packages libpam-motd and update-motd === ShalokShalom_ is now known as ShalokShalom [13:02] Any user from nepal? [13:02] !nepal [13:03] !np | maverick1 [13:03] maverick1: The Nepali Ubuntu Local Community is in #ubuntu-np - Also see: http://wiki.ubuntu.org.np [13:03] maverick1: see above ^ [13:08] hmm, i disabled the scripts via chmod -x, [13:09] looks like 50-motd-news was the culprit [13:09] jan64: interesting, i dont have that one, 16.04 here [13:12] It seems to be downloading news from i believe https://motd.ubuntu.com , which is down for me. [13:13] hello, what's the defaut path to each command? i removed the symlink to drush by rm but still having the drush command running [13:14] https://paste.ubuntu.com/25586180/ [13:14] Anyways, disabling it fixed the problem. [13:21] how do i get stdout from a script running from systemd in syslog? [13:21] i tried StandardOut=syslog, but i get nothing in syslog === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [13:45] hello guys [13:46] is 16.04 LTS supposed to use new network devices naming scheme? i though that if it detects that it is a VM it should be disabled by default and use legacy naming convention with eth0 eth1 etc ? [13:48] no [13:48] it uses the updated scheme regardless [13:52] imfearless: so it should by default use new scheme, no matter if it is a vm or a physical machine, correct ? [13:58] leeyaa correct [13:59] imfearless: thanks === albech1 is now known as albech [14:03] ok peeps, I got a digital ocean droplet, ubuntu 14.04 and when I press up in the terminal, I don't get the history. It is so irritating typing stuff over and over and over. How can I fix this? My poor little handles are getting worked to the bone typing [14:04] mrchairman, are you running bash or another shell? [14:07] donofrio, bash [14:07] hi all [14:08] mrchairman: does bash's ~/.bash_history exist and is it up to date? Possibly history has been turned off [14:08] mrchairman: try "echo !!" [14:08] I have python 2.7 default when I typed python on terminal and when I typed python3, it said python3.5.2. Now python 3.6 is out , How can I upgrade from 3.5.2 to 3.6 without leaving 3.5.2 behind? [14:09] mrchairman: are you sure your up arrow button is functional? [14:09] linocisco: wich ubuntu version are you on? [14:11] lotuspsychje, 16.04.3 LTS 64bit [14:11] let me see [14:12] yeah, up arrow works here [14:12] ah man I got it [14:12] user has no home directory [14:13] mrchairman: i see [14:14] linocisco: its reccommended to use python version that ships with your ubuntu version [14:14] should i just mkdir george and make ol george the owner [14:14] would that fix it? [14:16] mrchairman: you need to add it to /etc/passwd too [14:17] although i dont think that's the problem of the history, bash only writes to .bash_history when it closes so something else is up [14:18] yeah that didn't fix it [14:18] mrchairman: maybe the up arrow isn't getting received via ssh? does "echo !!" show the previous command or "ctrl+r" start the reverse history search? === semeion is now known as mnemonic [14:22] lotuspsychje, this is 2.7 which is mentioned as legacy in official python site https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 Although it is still usable and functioning [14:22] lotuspsychje, meaning default ubuntu version of python is 2.7.x [14:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25586489/ ---> No access point is showing up in my fresh install of Ubuntu LTS 16.04. My laptop model is Lenovo Y520.. can anyone help? Thanks :) [14:25] helpwifi: does "lspci -k | grep -A2 Network" show anything? [14:26] EriC^^, yes [14:26] anything next to driver in use? [14:26] EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25586536/ [14:27] helpwifi: the lines in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf seem related [14:28] hmm i have that file too [14:30] helpwifi: try "sudo modprobe iwlwifi" [14:31] helpwifi: it doesn't look as if the 8086:24FD is currently supported in the driver [14:31] EriC^^, it's still not showing up [14:34] helpwifi: install the hwe of zesty so it's supported [14:35] !hwe | helpwifi follow instructions here [14:35] helpwifi follow instructions here: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [14:35] helpwifi: EriC^^ support for that device wasn't added until kernel version 4.6 so you need to upgrade to a later kernel via the HWE [14:36] TJ- ok [14:41] EriC^^, TJ- I install the LTSnablement stack.. now? [14:41] *installed [14:41] helpwifi: ok, reboot and see how it goes [14:41] EriC^^, okay :D === JanC is now known as Guest54020 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:48] hello [14:49] what's the easiest way to check ram usage on ubuntu server? [14:49] by process i mean [14:50] i tried both "free -m" and "ps aux | awk '{print $6/1024 " MB\t\t" $11}' | sort -n" [14:50] but they aren't adding up [14:50] in what way? [14:50] i want to see how much total ram each process is using [14:51] right now it says there's 121MB free on my server [14:51] but when i run the ps aux and add the MB together I don't get 121 MB free [14:51] i get like 500MB free [14:51] so it's hard for me to tell what's hogging alll the resources [14:52]