 Only me responded to Rick's doodle so far: https://beta.doodle.com/poll/qy7kmfxeeiruwtby
[20:31] <valorie> doodle for what?
[20:32] <valorie> I looked on the list and found nothing
[20:32] <valorie> and missed out if it was in IRC
[20:32] <valorie> council meeting for what?
[20:32] <valorie> there was nothing on the ML
[20:33] <clivejo> KC metting for future stuff
[20:33] <clivejo> like Ovi's Kubuntu Vision
[20:34] <acheronuk> valorie: https://phabricator.kde.org/T7018
[20:35] <valorie> very cool -- and there should be something on the ML
[20:35] <valorie> IRC isn't reliable enough
[20:36] <valorie> thanks for telling me, and I will fill in the doodle
[20:36] <acheronuk> I thought there was something on the ML, but I guess I was confusing that with the Phab task
[20:37] <valorie> I think phab is a good place to keep track of work as it's being done, but I don't trawl through there to see whether or not there is anything new for me
[20:41]  * acheronuk does an email
[20:42] <valorie> thanks rik!
[20:57] <acheronuk> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-11-desktop-will-be-coming-to-kubuntu-17-10-soon-after-its-release-517801.shtml
[20:59] <valorie> that's cool!
[21:06] <acheronuk> gotta live up to it now :P
[21:06] <acheronuk> but that was a given anyway, that would want to backport that PDQ
[21:08] <valorie> yes
[21:08] <valorie> nice to get a bit of publicity though
[21:09] <valorie> mparillo: might want to tweet that
[21:10] <acheronuk> indeed.
[21:39] <mparillo> Ready to pull the trigger. This means my suggestion on a quick backport is acceptable.
[21:39] <valorie> \o/
[21:39] <valorie> not just acceptable, but the plan!
[21:40] <valorie> timing to be determined by circumstances
[21:40] <mparillo> Too late for weasel words
[21:41] <mparillo> How about that for a release codename. Wordy Weasel?
[21:43] <valorie> rofl
[21:43]  * valorie ain't no weasel
[21:43] <valorie> I've just lived through a few of those last weeks where we thought we had smooth sailing
[21:44] <valorie> when instead it was unforeseen issue after unforeseen issue
[21:44] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.11.1 is out on the Tues 17th, and artful is out on Thurs 19th
[21:44] <valorie> it's possible they will get all the bugs out by release
[21:44]  * valorie crosses fingers and hopes for the best
[21:45]  * acheronuk watches a squadron of flying pigs pass overhead
[21:45] <acheronuk> lol. but hopefully most/the worst
[21:46] <valorie> hahahaha
[21:46] <mparillo> Birdie, Birdie in the sky / why'd you do that in my eye / I'm a big boy; I don't cry / But I'm sure glad that pigs don't fly.
[21:46] <acheronuk> I will build 5.10.0. just a question of whether we push that one to backports or wait a day or 2
[21:46] <valorie> our fav local restaurant has a flying pig as their logo
[21:47] <acheronuk> 5.11.0 I mean
[21:47] <valorie> the RC could be clean
[21:48] <valorie> and we might all get a chance to test the heck out of it
[21:48] <valorie> and pass it with flying colors!
[21:48] <valorie> that's the best outcome
[21:48] <acheronuk> we shall see. :P
[21:49] <valorie> yup
[21:49] <acheronuk> we can test 5.10.0 for a week to see how it seems
[21:52] <valorie> 11
[21:52] <valorie> :-)
[21:57] <acheronuk> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:57] <mparillo> I suppose the question is if 5.11.0 *seems* clean with a whole week, and by then 5.11.1 is already released, which is lower risk for users.
[21:59] <valorie> yes, we often go with the .1
[21:59] <valorie> not quite as flashy though
[22:00] <valorie> we can always add to our release announcement: 5.11.1 will be in backports in a few days
[22:02] <acheronuk> we should also mostly know by then if the .1 fixes any 'shockers'
[22:04] <valorie> there were a few shockers with the beta I've heard about