=== frankban|afk is now known as frankban === frankban is now known as frankban|afk [17:15] Hi [17:16] i have a question i already have fuel . but im thinking to switch to maas someone can explain me how openstack upgrades works in maas? [17:21] jose-phillips: maas is not tied to openstack itself. MAAS will, however, deploy the underlying hardware for you [17:22] jose-phillips: if you are to use juju, then juju would hande the openstack upgrade for you [17:22] and then what is the difference between ubuntu openstack and juju ? [17:22] juju is like a bootstrapper? [17:22] jose-phillips: juju is the modeling system [17:23] jose-phillips: juju models your infrastructure, and orchestrates it [17:23] jose-phillips: s/infrastructure/service [17:23] jose-phillips: you can use juju to model,deploy,manage ubuntu openstack [17:26] got it === kukacz_ is now known as kukacz [20:54] Bug #1719015 opened: $TTL in zone definition is not updated [21:00] jose-phillips: but juju can also orchestrate/deploy other services like k8s, etc.