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 hey guys more of an android build question but i am stuck on this error
 system/core/init/log.h:20:10: fatal error: 'android-base/logging.h' file not found … #include <android-base/logging.h>
 but the file is indeed there
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[01:40] <tgBot10> <Juvenal Sales> 👍
[02:12] <Mikas> I want to install ubuntu touch on a mtk6582 smartphone, but I can not, does anyone help me?
 @thepeter, ""Only languages which are currently being translated are listed. If you want to translate to another language, please request it first on the project you want to translate."" where do i have to request
 found it..
 fixed it by adding full path
 Could LG K4 LTE  smartphone be supported by UBports?
 Hello @patrix0, please read : https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch :   Your support is needed!
 @Ern_st, So is it to install UBports on that phone to see  if works and what things works? … How I get debugging info to upload to UBports Developers Team?
 Developping ubports for one device takes months for a developers on the team. The only way to get more device is to support the project.
 (Photo, 834x142) https://irc.ubports.com/6RKf75bS/file_678.jpg
 I strongly advice to get a core device :)
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[04:42] <tgBot10> Mauricio Uhlig was added by: Mauricio Uhlig
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/ciW45yST/file_680.jpg
 The click store file manager is 19 MB while the open store version is 5,5 MB. Clearly something changed between the two. Which is the better one now? Has canonical actually updated theirs since?
 @Ern_st, Oh yeah, I soon will have one!
 @Jujuyeh, It is installable and works in Live Mode (Ubuntu LiveDVD)?
 @patrix0, Smartphones aren't PCs. There is not an iso/image for all of them. Someone needs to port Ubuntu to your device. Either you do it yourself or donate to the project so the can pay developers. The third option is to buy a supported device.
 +1 @sverzegnassi
[06:36] <tgBot10> aakhamef was added by: aakhamef
 Welcome Artyom!
 @NikosChat, Smartphones are PCs, we just don't ship kernels for them with 7 bazillion drivers because nobody wants to waste 50MB storage on the Linux kernel
[07:20] <tgBot10> <demokrit atomos> Problem is rather there is no dynamic hardware detection so a specific device tree is required for every device...
 (Photo, 414x259) https://irc.ubports.com/RHlIfDJ5/file_682.jpg
 @YougoChats, Version from Ubuntu Store is a multi-arch package that runs on amd64 and i386 too, makes no difference. My guess anyway is that for now, Ubuntu Store version works better
 @hwpplayer1, That's easily said, but I have to spend 8 working, 8 sleeping, 2 travelling and 2 getting ready. That leaves me with 4 hours, and I haven't even talked about things like dinner and laundry then.
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 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/mcqDind7/file_684.png
 calculator app kannada language translation complete
 going for other apps
 😁
 How can I config a scope? Or change the pre-config.
 Depend on the scope i think, maybe from source code
 (If its default option, you can just change the idontremeberfilename.ini)
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/BRUcskpC/file_686.jpg 40% !!
 🤞🏻
 :D
 @gostranger, 👍
 Any news about the conversation between us and purism about librem 5?
 very good question, it would be a pity that this subject becomes taboo
 I don't think it's taboo ... they just didn'released any hw specs AFAIK so we don't know what are going to be dealing with
 And I think there was no initiative to contact them to find out different way since core team is quite busy with things being currently done
 the Librem project raises many questions in comparison with ubuntu touch. … One is open source and the other is completely free. … One is subsidized by the other through a participatory project.
 @sverzegnassi, ok. i'll just go and ignore the update in system settings 😊
 until version in Open Store is bumped up and the one in system settings disappears
 @Sconio, http://www.delijati.net/image.png progress of the campain + extrapolation
 yeahh
 I think they would be silly if they don't at least consider ubports
 @popeydc, Just hope they know ubports exists
 I replied directly to their tweet
 They are expecting you guys to contact them
 Sorry - this might be a stupid question but can someone tell me if this focked version of Ubuntu touch works as a desktop when a phone is docked
 @AQLIVE, yes it does. and don't call us "forked version of Ubuntu Touch" ;)
 :D ok I wont LOL
 or even a focked one
 technicaly, we `are` the Ubuntu Touch. canonnikles even let us use the trademark and the logo
 Nice - I really loved the ide and I hoped that would really drive ubuntu forward. So it's awesome to see that you guys picked it up. Does anybody have expirence with ubuntu touch on a Nexus 5x ? I'ts not exactly supported
 It's not supported, what else do you need to know?
 does it work? no, it's not supported. … can you install it? no, it's not supported. … can you use it as a daily driver? no, it's not supported.
 that was it.  … I'll see if I can get hold of a Nexus 5 instead
 Nexus 5 works like a charm, but a little slow (it's a slow device anyways)
 I know that was why I asked if it would work on the 5x (it's a bit better )
 I read that unofficially it can work but nothing is guaranteed
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/NZlVUTFx/file_688.jpg
 N5 ;)
 if you know the stack well enough, you can help us with 16.04 Halium
 if not, well, get a supported devices or just wait
 I have a 5x myself and I would love to test UBports on it but unfortunately I'm a front end developer, so can't help much here
 Fair enough - I'm a seniour Test manager with some coding knowledge as we
 I've a short question. @neothethird said on his blog post about OTA-2 that "Added backend support for generic CalDAV servers to sync the calendar". Is this referring to the new calendar app (version 0.6.2) posted earlier or is this something different?
 I have a news everybody! Librem will use i.MX6 SoC as they wrote on their forum
 well... welcome back, how was it under rock? :P
 and regairding kernel they wil go for wayland
 they want HW acceleration
 they wanted i.MX8 but then the hw acceleration was more important since that wouldn't be possible yet
 so it'll suck performance wise
 too bad
 when it will be avaibale they would go for better SoC but not just yet
 @thepeter, wayland is not a kernel
 @garrogarri, bad choice of words ... I know that
 they want to support it
 as I wrote later on hw acceleration
 Whats the probleme with nexus 5 and stack ?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBd5r4KPU_k
 open store v2 on meizu mx3
 mx4
 can anyone with an m10 tablet make a video? :D
 i have an m10 tablet but i have 16.04 with snaps on it
 the old canonical edge channel
 Could  be cool to be back on the  Ubuntu touch for kindle fire
 ??
[11:47] <tgBot10> xsukax was added by: xsukax
 @xsukax, welcome
 @thepeter, Thanks
[12:04] <tgBot10> Juh_Bah was added by: Juh_Bah
 @Juh_Bah, welcome
[12:08] <ghostranger> hi
 @popescu_sorin, If no-one else comes back to you on this I'll have a go over the weekend.
 @popescu_sorin, Why don't install Ubports?
 i am a bit scared of flashing stuff X-) i almost bricked teh tablet last time
 Use Magic-Loony-Toons to install it?
[12:27] <ghostranger> softbrick or hard brick?
 Mister-Q: read two messages up
 Maybe it's Mister_Q
 Guess he left this channel
[12:32] <ghostranger> me?
 @ghostranger, soft? the tablet didn't boot, got stuck at the white meizu screen
[12:33] <ghostranger> oh ok
 Is this even possible to hard brick a device?
 @popeydc, i'll probably do that eventually, since it's kind of useless right now on the edge channel :/
 @vanyasem, I haven't actually seen anybody do it
 Well, not with a hammer, at lease
[12:34] <ghostranger> once i did
[12:35] <ghostranger> i had samsung device and i was installing custom rom suddenly the device screen was full of pixel error
 and you never were able to recover it?
[12:36] <ghostranger> i tried many things to rectify it
 maybe that was an unrelated hardware fault?
[12:37] <ghostranger> and finaly gave up and took it to service center
[12:37] <ghostranger> they said it cannot be recoverd
 @popescu_sorin, Yeah, I switched my e4.5 and my m10 to ubports, was pretty painless using magic-grep-twine
 @vanyasem, are you sure that was a result of flashing a custom rom?
 colour me unsurprised that you'd brick a samsung device
[12:38] <ghostranger> they said there was a damage to the chip oh the motherboard
 @popeydc, never happened to me
 it forces me to use Odin on a VM with Windows
 I've had a soft brick once
 but nothing a couldn't recover from
 @vanyasem, (I downloaded a wrong image, with one letter different from the build name)
[12:40] <ghostranger> oh
 what was the device btw?
[12:40] <ghostranger> samsung s duos
[12:40] <ghostranger> samsung s duos 2
 It's from the same age as my Galaxy Gio  :)
[12:41] <ghostranger> not s duos but s duos 2
 Yeah, I've never managed to fully brick a device. We came close with our very first version of Ubuntu Touch (before it was called that) on the Asus Transformer
[12:41] <ghostranger> cool
 oh, almost the same age. it's 2 years newer 😆
 oh im so old
[12:42] <ghostranger> just upgrade to new phone
 I have an S8+ currently
[12:43] <ghostranger> nice
 I use it as a hotspot for my lovely Nexus 5 with ubports
 @vanyasem, quote me on that
 @vanyasem, Network compatibility got you down?
 nope, I'm just too lazy to find that darned sim slot ejector
 😂😂😂
 it's kinda great, as LTE uses a lot of battery compared to Wi-Fi
 and S8 has plenty of that to spare, so why not?
[12:47] <ghostranger> when will ubport will work on redmi note 4?
 when somone ports it
 soon ™
 (more likely never)
 @vanyasem, That's what I did when my new phone had a broken CyanogenMod release where the SIM card would not be read
 It's kinda convenient, not as bad as people think it'd be
 exactly!
 Who was who asked for an archive of all clicks in the store?
 has anyone ported Ubuntu Touch to any arm7 device/board?
 @thepeter, Peter V apparently ^
 @popeydc, that would be me yep
 found my archive of clicks
 Are it enough clicks to get RSI?
 cool :)
 alan@colossus:/srv/touch/clicks/all$ du -hs . … 2.5G  .
 this archive has multiple versions of each click though
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/25592225/
 for example
 uhm
 probably easier to stick the entire archive on a usb stick and post it to you :D
 IPoAC
 :)
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 these days post office would probably kill it on the road by RTG checks
 @Guido, Seriously?! That would be great, boosting my N5 becoming a daily driver. Gotta read his blog post.
[13:29] <tgBot10> David Sambucci was added by: David Sambucci
 @David Sambucci, welcome
[13:30] <tgBot10> <David Sambucci> hi
 @Flohack … How does the translation process look like? I mean who is allowed to agree on a translation. … Do we only do suggestions and you will then decide?
 There is a "Suggest" button to suggest
 and "Translate" goes right into production
 @rogieroudshoorn, i had a focked version until this week!  Thanks to @mariogrip its no longer so focked
 that's why Russian Telegram is broken atm...
 because somebody translated formatting strings wrongly
 there's no formal audit iirc
 @vanyasem, Ouch... a good translation platform should find that though
 Also, Russian Telegram is broken... is that not their main market or so?
 @Lorxu, please stop
 durov is Russian, but he was kicked out of here, because he NEVER WANTED TO COOPERATE WITH FSB
 he was "deported" from the freaking company
 he has nothing to do with Russia or FSB. stop screwing around
 @Lorxu, I meant Russian UBporta app though
 @vanyasem, Yet everyone seems to see him as CEO?
 Well, the Ubports OS don't care the battery.
 @Lorxu, his name was removed in the last update. VK belongs to MAIL.RU now, the company that conqured VK a few years ago
 @vanyasem, Huh, okay
 and Telegram is the project he stared when he was deported from Russia
 @Jaume81, COuld you expand on that a bit more please? I get 2+ days from full charge which is quite good I think
 Also, I never mentioned his name
 @vanyasem, again, he was deported when his company refused to work with FSB. now that's no longer true, as the owner is mail.ru
 Because, it using bluetooth earphones and daily, only device, with Canonical Ubuntu I charge device,one time to day but with Ubports I disconnect this morning and now I have to charge it.
 @vanyasem, but telegram still belongs to Pavel. and the main office is not in Russia either. it's not a Russian company. he wasn't even legally allowed to enter it for a few years
 I've seen a lot of discussion about it earlier and it made me nuts
 @Lorxu, I just wanted a reason to start the rant :P
 and also, telegram was almost blocked in Russia. again, because he refused to follow FSB rules
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/PGU302Fm/file_690.jpg
 @Jaume81, one of your icons is a square with an X inside, what's that?
 @josueqb, no sim
 but it says 4G
 dual sim
 oh
 @josueqb, yep
 I see
 Meizu Pro 5 has dual sim
 But I use a sd card
 it would be better if the icon only show when have a sim. But it isn't a problem.
[14:09] <Guest20255> Hi. I'm looking to install Ubuntu Touch on a 2012 Nexus 7. Has anyone done this recently?
 I will restore the phone when a get full charge. Can it help?  … To install Ubports OS I used the 0.16 tool with a Mac.
 Not magic tool. The other option.
 @mariogrip, pinging @mariogrip
 @Guest20255, .
 @Guest20255, There hasn't been a working image for 3+ years now. There were issues with the Tegra3 drivers that made it unusable
 oh, there were 2 different Nexus 7s?
 yeah 2012 & 2013
 I always forget about that
[14:13] <Guest20255> Oh gotcha @DanChapman. Probably not worth the risk then.
 @Guest20255, Unfortunately now 😞 I feel your pain though. My nexus 7 was delivered the week before canonical announced they were dropping it as a reference device so it's sat on my desk ever since
[14:15] <Guest20255> @DanChapman Yeah. I've had mine since they came out, and I'm trying to find a good use for it.
[14:15] <Guest20255> I've seen people put desktop Ubuntu on it, but I don't see why I would want to do that.
 There might still be a sailfish image for it. I tried it out a couple of years ago and it seemed quite functional
 Also.. Nexus 7 2012 (Asus grouper) one have ETOOOLD kernel version
 which is not "supported" by recent glibc versions
 For the translations: So what for is the checkbox äh "requires evaluation"?
 Who does in the end evaluate this particular translation?
 @bhushanshah, plus that... 😊
[14:45] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @twinkybot, Pherhaps for you in case you are not convinced About your translation, and you want to think more about or for some your colleague shat has better knoledge, idea
[14:46] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Has better knowledge or idea
 Hmmm, yeah I know how this will end up :D
[14:46] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> I am bad typing with finger
 Yeah bascially 't is what I did.
 But I believe that no one will then affirm that this is good or not. But maybe @flohack will then do ;)
[14:50] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Do not think so, he has already enough to do with telegram and weblate settings and server ☺
[14:50] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> But we understand what stress you, now it is more about trust
 I am fine with this then. I can live with that and saying all of us will do the best 😍
[14:55] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> He can lock the translation, but the system is development so not possible right now.
 I think because we are still a small community we shouldn't get too caught up on translations not being quite right and just do it on a "best effort" basis. Bug reports can always be filed for specific translations to be improved or someone who thinks it could be better can go and do it them selves. It's hard to create moderation for translations when there is only one or two people doing them per language.
 But right now the speed is killing me... 😃
[14:59] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> @DanChapman, Exactly Dan, thanks
[15:05] <tgBot10> <Milan Korecky> Don't stress your self, the apps, can be updated earlier, not only with OTA
[15:18] <tgBot10> <Juvenal Sales> Quem tem um smartfone com android pode instalar ubuntu?
 @DanChapman, +1
 Good morning, afternoon, and evening (bless these time zones). … It was brought to our attention that the UBports Audiocast did not properly display the RSS feed information with each post. … This has been rectified and you can now review each post and find the feed. … Thank you for your patience and we now resume with our regular programming: … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/tag/audiocast-5
 @Juvenal Sales, Hello, it is way more complicated
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/BleQFtkt/file_691.mp4
 that is such a dope gif. I can't stop watching....
 @wayneoutthere, the hand is just a little tiny bit off though 😁
 BTW more formal German or informal?
[15:59] <Shinobi> Can I install it on Moto g3
[15:59] <Shinobi> As it's not showing my device
 @Shinobi, unfortunatelly nope
 unless you are capable making a port yourself
 @gostranger, +1 loved it
 Thanks
 @popescu_sorin, Which camera do you use for video shoot and which editor do you use for editing?
 @popeydc, It's nice to hear the story of ut's inception.
 @Vijay, recorded with fairphone2's camera and it's the raw video (no editiong)
 it's actually uploaded to youtube from the phone
 @popescu_sorin, For other videos which editor do you use? Basically I want to know which video editor works better on Linux!
 i don't do much editing :D most of my videos are just 2-3 unedited
 not sure what are the best video editors, try https://www.shotcut.org/
 or kdenlive maybe
 Ok.. thank you..
 np
 @popescu_sorin, or OpenShot
 KDEnLive is pretty cool
 yeah, but it's too bloated for quick editing
 openshot is more lightweight for just cut-crop-render
 for those wanting a fairly quick rundown of the pros and cons of linux video editors. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4gfsqs/whats_everyones_favourite_video_editing_software/d2hhczw/
 though OpenShot has greatly improved since I wrote that comment. Everything else is still valid. However, I'd say OpenShot is still like "iMovie for Linux" rather than a serious video editor.
 some people might want iMovie for Linux so if that's you, enjoy
 @MichaelTun, it's amazing to drop-cut-crop-save
 kdenlive is too heavy for that kinds of stuff and nothing else really clicked for me
 @vanyasem, Kdenlive can do that just fine and what do you mean "heavy"?
 load openshot and load kdenlive. then check load times and htop. also, the UI of openshot is a lot easier (cleaner). kdenlive requires a lot of packages on non-kde systems. should I proceed?
 @Jaume81, How much battery it consumes?
[17:37] <tgBot10> <Gerd Sänger> Topic translations to German: As one of the reviewers in launchpad for German I try to follow this Guidance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGermanTranslators/Standard%C3%BCbersetzungen.
 @vanyasem, packages is not heavy we live in 2017 not 1997. … Kdenlive can do 10x more so it uses a little more resources. Not a big deal. … The UI argument is valid for sure. Kdenlive is a bit overwhelming. Though this is not relevant to heaviness. … "heavy" implies bloat which is why I wanted you to clarify.
 @patrix0, I think Ubuntu Phone had an issue with battery management so maybe it was inherented
[17:41] <tgBot10> <Gerd Sänger> I used openshot 1.4 series for a long time, the 2.0 version appeared to be buggy and changed the easy workflow to the worse. It became better, but for a year or so I am using kdenlive. Solved a lot of problems with sound correction a.s.o.
[17:42] <tgBot10> <Zhang Zhou 🥜🥜🥜> @vanyasem, One minute. Is Canonical allowed to use Ubuntu brand and logo for UBPorts? It's really great if true!
 Yes. The latest build is named "Ubuntu Touch" and it uses Ubuntu Touch logo
[17:43] <tgBot10> <Zhang Zhou 🥜🥜🥜> Great, thanks to Canonical!
[17:46] <tgBot10> <Zhang Zhou 🥜🥜🥜> Besides Openshot and Kdenlive there is PiTiVi, with GNOME Shell CSD support.
 yep, we know :) it never clicked for me
 https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/bluetooth-bugs-open-billions-of-devices-to-attacks-no-clicking-required/
 :/
 @Zhang Zhou 🥜🥜🥜, Canonical is VERY open to their trademark being used in projects. They rarely have any issue with it.
 although projects like "Ubuntu Sucks" is obviously not going to get permission lol
 Sirs. I installed from the phone terminal a click application compiled from the source and the installation showed no errors (I used pkcon)
 the system recognizes the application as installed but I can not see on the aplications scope
 any idea?
 Did you pull down the dash to refresh the app list
 There is no P2P Crypto Messenger like Tox, Briar or Ring for UT, right?
 Patrick that's correct
 Yes, even reboot. But not shown
 Thats pity. But the effort to build a new UI for jTox  (Sailfish) should be adequate..
 And the clicks got a desktop file in it right? can you see it in ~/.local/share/applications?
 No. Does not appear!
 should I place it manually from the source code (I remember a .desktop file)
 Ops. There is not on the source code!
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 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/WTMoeb5X/file_693.jpg
 Making the UT location in my area more precise
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0dv1BmfS/file_695.jpg
 Time to stop...
 Wow someone else who used stumbler
 @popeydc, Gotta make UT location better somehow
 Eh
 Does ubports use Mozilla
 Yes, via geoclue
 Since we had to remove HERE.
 cool
 We brought that in before we released OTA-1 :)
 Ahh
 Gotcha
 I'll reinstall it
 Not used it for a while
 It hasn't changed in a year
 I wonder if geoclue supports stumbling...
 It does not
 I don't think the stumble API is open
 Last I looked they didn't want additional stumble apps
 Ah. There's a library for Android but I don't see anything else.
 @popescu_sorin, Here's one. https://youtu.be/6BklDTYB7qI
 @BrisPete, yay! looks quite nice on teh tablet, just saw the video on reddit :>
 https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/71uhk7/gnew_updateable_open_store_video_on_ubuntu_tablet/
 @UniversalSuperBox, You can set in the privacy parameter to scan position + wifi. When i got a phone from my familly, i'm updating there privacy rules ^^ like google does