[16:15] <TimApple> hello, I noticed snaps don't show up in 'show applications' the only way I can seem to launch them is to go to ubuntu software and launch them from there. This normal?
[18:11] <johnny_|_> Hi. I am trying to connect 2 4k monitors on 17.10. Sometimes I even manage to do that but right now when I connect second monitor the screen is black and I can see mouse cursor both on laptop screen and first external monitor. What to do from here?
[18:12] <johnny_|_> I cannot do anything except hard reset.
[18:18] <johnny_|_> I think xrandr is super buggy. Now it gives me Floating point exception.
[18:29] <ducasse> johnny_|_: which graphics drivers?
[18:30] <johnny_|_> ducasse: I am talking about live boot from usb, gpu is 1060 mobile
[18:32] <ducasse> you will probably have better luck on a regular install with the right proprietary driver
[18:32] <johnny_|_> ducasse: how can I add proprietary driver?
[18:33] <ducasse> install, then choose the driver in the software and updates dialog
[18:45] <johnny_|_> it "hangs" on Started User Manager for UID 121.
[18:56] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-384
[18:56] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-375
[18:57] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - see what we can do .
[18:59] <johnny_|_> I removed nvidia driver... and can see dekstop again.
[19:01] <johnny_|_> https://paste.debian.net/987313
[19:07] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: nvidia recommends the 384 verison driver . Available in our trusted PPA . Want to try it and see ?
[19:10] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: can you tell me how to add ppa
[19:15] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Sure . run ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf 'then run :  sudo apt add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-384 ' is one way to do it .
[19:16] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: thanks, would you also recommend reinstall xserver-xorg after that?
[19:18] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: quick note. I don't have xorg.conf I have xorg.conf.09222017
[19:19] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: No. re-install of any other components "should" not be required . 
[19:20] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Not having the config file might be an issue , as with optimus set up that file IS required !
[19:20] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: add-repository gives me Invalid operation add-repository
[19:21] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: oh it was just dash instead of whitespace
[19:24] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: typo on my part :( ' sudo add-apt-repository 
[19:25] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Once installed I do expect the nvidia installer to create that config file !
[19:27] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: it doesn't look promising... Screen is blinking. Let me record and read it to you what it says.
[19:30] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (20s / no limit)
[19:31] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: SSD .. trim check in progress ??
[19:35] <johnny_|_> back to blinking Started User Manager for UID 121.
[19:35] <johnny_|_> google gives me that this is some kind of xserver issue
[19:35] <johnny_|_> but xorg.conf file is there
[19:44] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: I tried with slim instead of gdm3 but I get blank page also.
[19:50] <Bashing-om> Jikan: show ' dpkg - l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[19:50] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: ^^ sorry .
[19:51] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: with lightdm I can see login but when I try to login I get blank screen for a sec and then redirect back to login screen.
[19:55] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: https://paste.debian.net/987323/ had to retype it but the main thing is there
[19:58] <johnny_|_> lightdm is working with 2 external 4k monitors + laptop's but cannot get into d
[19:58] <johnny_|_> ^^ DE
[19:58] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: ' dpkg - l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' as I want to see it complete .
[20:00] <johnny_|_> http://termbin.com/n10o
[20:03] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: is this normal that xorg is running in failsafe? http://termbin.com/rbfh
[20:13] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: reading.
[20:16] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Let's see if we can see what X is so unhappy about : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[20:18] <johnny_|_> http://termbin.com/229l
[20:18] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: ^^ i3 is working :P
[20:20] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: As i3 works, then we know it is config issues in the other DE's at fault .
[20:22] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Huh ?? What are you booting ? " BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz.efi " Looks to be the live environment ??
[20:24] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: I am booting into persistent partition.
[20:25] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: Sorry then . I do not know that invironment . " 1394.974] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. " But X is not at all happy ! I do not have the experience to know the why here .
[20:27] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: thank you for your time. Really appreciate it. I hope someone can look into that issue and fix it.
[20:28] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: I do not know that there is a "fix" as the live environment by definition is read only .
[20:28] <johnny_|_> Bashing-om: it has persistent partition. It saves whatever you do.
[20:31] <Bashing-om> johnny_|_: More like it can save some things . How it relates to kernel things is a lot different . But as I say . I do not have the experience to know .
[22:13] <kkremitzki> I'm seeing Firefox version 50.1.0 in artful right now, is that the planned release version or is it expected to change?
[22:15] <ducasse> bug 1715030
[22:15] <ducasse> kkremitzki: ^^
[22:22] <kkremitzki> Ah, interesting reading, thank you.
[22:22] <kkremitzki> I definitely would not have expected that to be the cause
[22:24] <ducasse> 55 is in -proposed, there is no -security for artful yet
[22:25] <ducasse> !info firefox artful-proposed
[22:29] <kkremitzki> Great, I just enabled it and upgraded
[22:46] <Smedles> Hi all - anyone else seeing issues with 17.10 not auto suspending reliably?