[00:23] <Trevinho> kenvandine: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2965 is fine now, if you want to test, feel free :)
[05:22] <didrocks> good morning
[05:33] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[05:39] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:00] <seb128> wtf, I'm building cairo from src and can't preload/ld_library_path load it
[06:00] <seb128> $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./src/.libs /usr/bin/evince
[06:00] <seb128>  /usr/bin/evince: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.2: failed to map segment from shared object
[06:01] <seb128> $ file src/.libs/libcairo.so.2.11509.0
[06:01] <seb128> src/.libs/libcairo.so.2.11509.0: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=32843f2d9e71e3d100c17563055418cae80c34c0, with debug_info, not stripped
[06:01] <jibel> good morning
[06:01] <seb128> lut jibel
[06:01] <jibel> salut seb128
[06:01] <seb128> shrug; fck
[06:01] <seb128> of course it's apparmor
[06:06] <seb128> quite confusing, why didn't I think about that yesterday evening
[06:06] <seb128> I poked around for 15 minutes on google and decided to restart a new build fresh this morning
[06:08] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:08] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, joyeux vendredi !
[06:08] <seb128> didrocks, jibel, à vous aussi ;-)
[06:10] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, didrocks, jibel
[06:12] <didrocks> salut jibel & oSoMoN
[06:43] <flexiondotorg> Bonjour desktopers
[06:43] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[06:52] <oSoMoN> bonjour flexiondotorg
[08:03] <willcooke> morning!
[08:03] <didrocks> good morning willcooke! Feeling better today?
[08:04] <oSoMoN> morning willcooke!
[08:05] <Laney> ahoy
[08:05] <didrocks> hey hey Laney
[08:06] <Laney> can't resolve DNS for my server this morning
[08:06] <Laney> WEIRD
[08:06] <Laney> hi didrocks, happy friday!
[08:06] <didrocks> happy Friday and network debugging Laney :)
[08:07] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah better.  Still coughing, so the people on the plane will be happy with me :)
[08:08] <didrocks> that's the only reason I'm travelling via Paris and not London, to avoid you :)
[08:09] <didrocks> (ok, maybe the fact that there is no reason for me to travel for 6h to go to London plays a little bit as well…) ;)
[08:09] <willcooke> ha
[08:14] <jamesh> About 14 hours until my first flight
[08:14] <willcooke> safe travels jamesh
[08:15] <willcooke> duflu and tkamppeter are probably there already
[08:15] <jamesh> It'll be one long Saturday for me
[08:16] <willcooke> I looked at the bus thing as advised by the hotel, it takes > 1hr to get from the airport to the hotel.  vs taxi @ 30 mins
[08:17] <willcooke> Seems that the transfer time is inversely proportional to the number of timss they say "fast" on their web site
[08:21] <didrocks> yeah, need to find people arriving at the same time though
[08:22] <willcooke> yeah
[08:25] <didrocks> ah, I thought andyrock is, but not the same airport apparently :p
[08:27] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney, happy friday
[08:27] <willcooke> hi seb128!
[08:31]  * Laney nods seb128 
[08:32] <Laney> what happen
[08:32] <jamesh> I think I'll just take the Airporter: I can deal with paying now, and it's not like I'll be doing anything for the rest of the night
[08:32] <sil2100> Someone set us up the bomb
[08:32] <sil2100> All your base are belong to us
[08:33] <Laney> should probably tell ubuntukylin their ISOs don't build
[08:33] <seb128> Laney, it's rainy friday and I'm still dealing with a stack of GNOME segfaults :-/
[08:33] <Laney> ah
[08:33] <seb128> totem, evince, cairo, nautilus
[08:33] <Laney> those are the fun ones to fix!
[08:34] <seb128> fun
[08:34] <seb128> indeed
[08:34] <Laney> well
[08:34] <Laney> at least you get a trace most of the time :P
[08:34] <seb128> Laney, you should perhaps upload your n-m fixes even if they have not been reviewed? otherwise we might have g-c-c quite not usable for beta :-/
[08:34] <seb128> right, I'm able to reproduce most of those issues
[08:34] <seb128> which is good
[08:34] <seb128> oh, I forgot gvfsd-mtp and gst-vaapi :p
[08:35] <Laney> vaapi eh
[08:35] <seb128> yeah...
[08:35] <seb128> I've been good responses from upstream on most issues which is nice
[08:35] <seb128> I wish that was the case for our current gnome-shell bugs as well :-/
[08:37] <seb128> that starts getting me concerned for the release
[09:24] <seb128> Laney, ah, you didn't reply to my question about n-m patches before beta earlier, but looks like you are getting a review so we might be able to cherrypick some commited changes :-)
[09:26] <Laney> laney@artful (ubuntu|…)> git pull                                        ~/dev/canonical/packaging/desktop/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad1.0
[09:26] <Laney> Already up-to-date.
[09:26] <Laney> laney@artful (ubuntu|…)> head -1 debian/changelog                        ~/dev/canonical/packaging/desktop/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad1.0
[09:26] <Laney> gst-plugins-bad1.0 (1.12.2-1ubuntu1) artful; urgency=medium
[09:26] <Laney> laney@artful (ubuntu|…)> rmadison -sartful -asource gst-plugins-bad1.0   ~/dev/canonical/packaging/desktop/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad1.0 gst-plugins-bad1.0 | 1.12.2-1ubuntu3 | artful/universe | source
[09:26] <Laney> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
[09:26] <Laney> seb128: yeah I pinged upstream, sry for not replying to you
[09:26] <seb128> no worry
[09:26] <seb128> thx
[09:26] <seb128> ah, people who don't commit to the packaging vcs..
[09:27] <seb128> doh, one being me it seems :-/
[09:27] <seb128> Laney, sorry about that, I sponsored for duflu but overlooked that there was a vcs
[09:27] <Laney> nm
[09:27] <seb128> I though we didn't have one for gst
[09:27] <Laney> nobody else uses it either
[09:27] <seb128> I should know better and check
[09:27] <Laney> except a_beato when he was working on touch patches
[09:27] <Laney> ♥
[09:28] <seb128> :-)
[09:28] <didrocks> we should fix our vcs workflow anyway while we are in NY
[09:28]  * didrocks is a little bit tired of debian/ only branches when working on patches
[09:28] <didrocks> I guess evaluating and taking the ubuntu one in the wiki
[09:30] <Laney> I think there's some rbasak/nacc talks/sessions about git-ubuntu
[09:30]  * Laney would be ok with using that
[09:30] <didrocks> yep
[09:30] <didrocks> at ubuntucon
[09:30] <Laney> ...next week...
[09:30] <didrocks> need to watch it anyway
[09:30] <Laney> nod
[09:31]  * willcooke adds didrocks to the meeting
[09:32] <Laney> don't think that is a workshop on how to use it as a user if that's what you are expecting
[09:32] <seb128> there is a meeting to discuss git usage
[09:32] <seb128> what Laney said
[09:33] <didrocks> willcooke: there is a meeting planned for that?
[09:33]  * didrocks probably lost the tab of meetings :p
[09:33] <didrocks> etoomanytabs
[09:34] <seb128> didrocks, I got an invite this morning for one, I think that's what will was referring to when he said he was adding you
[09:35] <didrocks> ah ok ;)
[09:36] <willcooke> what he said
[09:36] <didrocks> got it now, thanks!
[09:37] <seb128> on that note lunch time, bbl
[11:40] <Laney> oh aptly
[11:40] <Laney> if only you didn't take eleventy squillion years to publish you'd be so great
[11:40] <Laney> actually, you're still great, but that would make you better
[11:55] <seb128> Laney, who were you asking for what they think (and about what?) on bug #1713712
[11:55] <Laney> whoever wants to push for the change
[11:55] <Laney> what is what to do about it not being reviewed and being beta soon and close to the release
[11:55] <seb128> Laney, I would +1 to land the changes in artful now/on sunday|monday (before beta), I've been using them without issues for some days and the code got some first reviews
[11:56] <Laney> write that on the bug please
[11:56] <seb128> k
[11:56] <seb128> done
[11:57] <seb128> Laney, I don't understand how people can work with GNOME without any indication of "events"
[11:57] <seb128> like incoming emails and such
[11:58] <seb128> but that's my workflow and I guess others are differents
[11:58] <seb128> so it might not be as important to get that I personally think :-)
[12:03] <Laney> the feature is an okay ide
[12:03] <Laney> a
[12:03] <Laney> I'm more concerned from the release team side about increasing the potential bug surface
[12:07] <seb128> right, tricky choice
[12:07] <seb128> stability vs usability
[12:16] <jbicha> didrocks: if you're talking about vcs for GNOME packages, Debian is "almost" ready to switch from svn to git, talk to Laney about that
[12:18] <jbicha> and it's easy to have extra branches for Ubuntu series' and the git repos will include the source (it's not just debian/ only)
[12:19] <seb128> jbicha, at the same time it seems some people are working on an equivalent to udd with git for ubuntu, like all sources with a standard workflow on launchpad
[12:19] <seb128> which is compelling as well
[12:22] <jbicha> for packages where we are in sync or nearly so, I think working in Debian git is better; for stuff like gnome-shell maybe the new Ubuntu git repo is better?
[12:26] <seb128> yeah, let's see in practice what the workflows are etc
[12:55] <andyrock> seb128: the fix  for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1696621  has been merged upstream
[12:55] <andyrock> we might need to use a debian patch for this
[12:56] <andyrock> what do you think?
[12:56] <seb128> andyrock, great, thanks
[12:56] <andyrock> quilt right?
[12:57] <seb128> andyrock, we should probably either backport it or snapshot git a bit latter
[12:57] <seb128> depending of the number of changes we would like to backport
[12:58] <seb128> we are probably going to get .1 before release but we want the fixes before beta for important/visible issues
[12:58] <seb128> jbicha, ^ opinion?
[13:04] <jbicha> seb128: either way is fine
[13:04] <jbicha> since gnome-shell uses meson, making a new tarball goes something like: meson builddir; ninja -C builddir dist
[13:05] <jbicha> and the tarball will be in builddir/meson-dist/
[13:12] <didrocks> andyrock: as sugessted on the bug report, I feel that we should try another color for the emblem. It's in the css, great, but let's put a good color by default so that we don't need to have to tweak it back again
[13:13] <andyrock> what color do you suggest?
[13:13] <andyrock> didrocks: ^^^
[13:14] <didrocks> andyrock: grey for the middle part? (maybe the same orange grey than the one we have in the theme)
[13:14] <didrocks> andyrock: if you have the outline, it can be orange, to match alt-tab for instance or button selections
[13:15] <didrocks> andyrock: look at the very bottom of /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/ubuntu.css, I have a made a table of the main colors we use for our theme
[13:15] <andyrock> kk
[13:15]  * didrocks sees a typo in his css file btw "elemnents"
[13:16] <didrocks> pushed in bzr
[13:17] <seb128> didrocks, andyrock, is that about the launcher emblems?
[13:17] <andyrock> yep
[13:17] <didrocks> yes
[13:18] <seb128> k
[13:18] <seb128> the current look wfm but I'm not picky
[13:18] <andyrock> didrocks: #dd4814 ?
[13:19] <andyrock> I like the red
[13:19] <didrocks> andyrock: try first #e95420 which is the official orange
[13:20] <andyrock> in unity7 we don't use the orange but as you prefer
[13:20] <didrocks> we do use a grey, correct?
[13:20] <didrocks> this is why I suggested grey
[13:20] <didrocks> we don't use red in unity7 IIRC ;)
[13:21] <mdeslaur> jbicha: what's up with shotwell?
[13:21] <andyrock> well red is used in all the other major OSes
[13:22] <andyrock> (or OSs? :D )
[13:22] <seb128> mdeslaur, you mean? bug? segfault? update stucked in proposed?
[13:22] <andyrock> i'll update thr branch with  #e95420
[13:22] <didrocks> it's not in anything we have in our theme
[13:22] <jbicha> mdeslaur: failed autopkgtest triggered by a patch applied in Debian, someone with a camera can try to re-record the umockdev test https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781802
[13:22] <didrocks> andyrock: well, try it first, not sure if #e95420 isn't too late
[13:22] <andyrock> do you want a border as well?
[13:22] <didrocks> or if you don't want, we can do it while uploading :)
[13:22] <didrocks> andyrock: I guess it's just a question of try and see
[13:23] <didrocks> there is a darker orange we picked for border, worth a try (in the css)
[13:23] <didrocks> the color has been scientifically picked by popey and I :p
[13:23] <didrocks> (don't ask)
[13:23] <popey> uhoh
[13:23] <didrocks> (no, there was no beer involved)
[13:24] <didrocks> (yet)
[13:24] <popey> [FACT]
[13:24] <mdeslaur> seb128, jbicha: so can someone kill the failing test so it gets migrated? we need it for a security fix...
[13:24] <seb128> mdeslaur, yes, I was thinking the same on my way back from lunch
[13:25] <mdeslaur> ok, thanks
[13:25] <seb128> or maybe somebody should ask pitti if he has a slot to update that record, he did the previous one iirc so he knows how to do that and has the hardware
[13:25] <pitti> not today any more, sorry; meeting now and then an appointment; please assign a bug to me
[13:26] <jbicha> mdeslaur: is the security issue already fixed in artful-proposed?
[13:26] <mdeslaur> jbicha: it's fixed in the version in -proposed yes
[13:26] <andyrock> didrocks: looks fine
[13:26] <seb128> pitti, it's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781802 , do you want to maybe have a look next week? I don't want to annoy you too much
[13:27] <didrocks> andyrock: nice! :)
[13:27] <andyrock> pushing
[13:27] <pitti> seb128: oh, is that test upstream now
[13:27] <andyrock> pushed
[13:27] <pitti> ok, keeping the tab open
[13:28] <jbicha> pitti: no but Ubuntu needs the autopkgtest to pass or the test ignored
[13:28] <pitti> jbicha: right, I was asking why it's on gnome bz instead of lp
[13:28]  * andyrock is trying to find a nice and easy animation for the urgent state
[13:28] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[13:28] <jbicha> pitti: I filed it on GNOME because it looked like a regression. Turns out the regression(?) was from a patch Debian grabbed from bugzilla that wasn't applied in git
[13:30] <jbicha> one workaround is to just drop the ios8 patch but that didn't seem quite right either…
[13:31] <seb128> that patch didn't go upstream? do you know why?
[13:32] <jbicha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742295
[13:33] <jbicha> the patch author described it as a "TERRIBLE hack"
[13:34] <seb128> jbicha, mdeslaur, removing the patch or commenting the test either workaround is fine with me
[13:35] <jbicha> pitti: I can comment out the autopkgtest and if you update the umockdev we can re-enable it later?
[13:36] <pitti> jbicha: sounds fine
[13:36] <pitti> not worth blocking a security fix
[13:36] <jbicha> ok, thanks
[13:37] <seb128> pitti, how are you btw? any fun plans for this w.e while most of us here are going to be stucked in planes to the ubuntu rally from next week?
[13:37] <jbicha> it'll be nice to finally have a shotwell that's not a really old git snapshot :)
[13:37] <seb128> yeah
[13:37] <seb128> I hope the new one isn't too buggy
[13:37] <seb128> we didn't test it much
[13:38] <pitti> seb128: we want to do a bike tour, after several weeks of grey and cold it's finally sunny again
[13:38] <pitti> seb128: and of course, make a cross on a piece of paper on Sunday :)
[13:38] <Laney> [ x ] Pedro
[13:39] <pitti> Laney: whoever that is, I don't think he'll be on my ballot :)
[13:39] <seb128> elections time?
[13:39] <Laney> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kHL5iQJLvNU/maxresdefault.jpg
[13:39] <pitti> seb128: yep; I'm surprised it isn't a big thing in the French media - the French election for sure was here
[13:40] <didrocks> pitti: oh it is in the French media, but people would have to live in France to realize :)
[13:40] <pitti> well, it's actually fairly boring
[13:40] <seb128> pitti, it might be, my weeks have just been crazy recently and I didn't have much time to keep up with what is happening
[13:40] <didrocks> (that and the dismantlement of the Front Nationale are the 2 top news) ;)
[13:40] <pitti> the polls have Merkel so far in the  lead that there will hardly be any surprises
[13:40] <seb128> oh, friday troll time :p
[13:41] <pitti> (le sigh -- times when the economy is running well-oiled is a really bad time for progressive politics, unfortunately)
[13:41] <pitti> anyway, I'll add my 0.000001% to the Greens :)
[13:42] <didrocks> well, even when it's not running well-oiled, like in France, it's a bad time for progressive politics
[13:42] <pitti> but, but, as I said, appointment now, so have a good weekend and save travels!
[13:42] <didrocks> thanks, enjoy your week-end pitti!
[13:42] <pitti> where are you guys going?
[13:42] <didrocks> New Yorkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[13:42] <pitti> somewhere US, I take it, for logn travel time
[13:42] <pitti> oh, ncie!
[13:42] <chrisccoulson> pitti, we'll take Merkel - you can have Theresa May ;)
[13:42] <pitti> I had expected it to be too expensive for an Ubuntu sprint
[13:43] <pitti> chrisccoulson: hmmmmmmmno :)
[13:43] <chrisccoulson> heh
[13:43] <didrocks> we would as well, especially Manhantan, but surprise surprise :)
[13:43] <pitti> great, enjoy! make some photos
[13:43] <didrocks> will do and +you on g+ ;)
[13:44] <seb128> pitti, have fun! :-)
[13:44] <pitti> didrocks: I read your blurbs anyway :)
[13:44]  * pitti waves
[13:45] <didrocks> bye bye ;)
[13:47] <Trevinho> didrocks: hey can you take a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/vertical-linked-buttons-tuning/+merge/330958 ?
[13:48] <didrocks> Trevinho: I think I can test it and bindly trust you :)
[13:48] <Trevinho> didrocks: there's a bileto for it
[13:48] <didrocks> Trevinho: we 2 other theme changes to do with seb128 next week, maybe we can try embeed that together?
[13:48] <Trevinho> didrocks: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2965
[13:48] <Trevinho> didrocks: yeah, but since it's ready, I would even publish it... as you wish
[13:49] <Trevinho> releasing themes is less annoying that build stuff
[13:49] <didrocks> Trevinho: let me have a quick test/look
[13:49] <Laney> :not-fest!
[13:50] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, as you like :-P
[13:50] <Trevinho> Laney: i might have avoidded the :nots, but it would hav ecaused many repeated definitions... Which... I don't like
[13:50] <Trevinho> Laney: also three's no othre way to pick a child that is not first or last
[13:51] <Trevinho> wel you can add definition for generic and then override, but still
[13:51] <Laney> right
[13:51] <seb128> nice, with the fctix->ibus changes qt4 dropped from the iso
[13:51]  * Laney likes that way
[13:51] <Trevinho> I had some issues I don't remember...
[13:52] <Trevinho> ah, yeah... I had to put everywhere magic numbers, instead of few less times.. but maybe i had to..
[13:52] <Trevinho> .Can't remember
[13:52] <Laney> Trevinho: did you see that bug about the minimum titlebar height?
[13:52] <Trevinho> Laney: nope... I had some work stashed in that regards though
[13:52] <Trevinho> let me see
[13:52] <seb128> and the iso is 70M lighter
[13:53] <Laney> Trevinho: gnome-control-center -> printers -> click the cog on a printer -> printer details
[13:53] <didrocks> nice!
[13:53] <didrocks> well, speaking of g-c-c, the 2 separations headers aren't aligne in our theme
[13:53] <didrocks> the headerbar one and the panel list one
[13:53] <seb128> Laney, that's a theme bug?
[13:54] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, that's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784562 and the same is happening with upstream high contrast
[13:54] <Laney> I think it's a missing minimum height on titlebars
[13:54] <Trevinho> Laney: oh, cool feature :)
[13:57] <jbicha> I think qt5 is on the iso becuase of ibus-mozc R> mozc-utils-gui
[13:57] <Trevinho> Laney: yeeah, that fixes it... let me quickly get a fix
[13:57] <Trevinho> do we have a downstream bug
[13:57] <Trevinho> ?
[13:59] <seb128> jbicha, it was already on the iso before today so it's not that change pulling it in
[13:59] <didrocks> Trevinho: hum, the theme fix is fine to me, but it seems you want to land other stuffs as well?
[14:04] <jbicha> seb128: yes, it was fcitx-mozc R> mozc-utils-gui before
[14:05] <seb128> k
[14:05] <seb128> no change/nothing we can easily fix there right?
[14:05] <Laney> Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/1712011
[14:06] <seb128> Laney, that's the same bug as the bugzilla I was sharing 10 min ago
[14:06] <Laney> I know
[14:06] <seb128> k
[14:06] <Laney> he asked for a downstream bug
[14:06] <Laney> so that's what I gave
[14:06] <seb128> the downstream reference is in the bugzilla
[14:06] <seb128> Trevinho, stop being lazy and read :p
[14:06] <jbicha> find someone that uses mozc and ask them how important that app is and whether it can be handled in gnome-c-c instead?
[14:06] <seb128> jbicha, I don't even know what mozc is and does
[14:07] <jbicha> Japanese I believe
[14:07] <seb128> Trevinho, so it's a theme issue? upstream high contrast has the same issue then should the bugzilla be reassigned?
[14:07] <seb128> Laney, ^
[14:08] <Trevinho> seb128: :-D I gave a vertical read, then I moved to fix the code instead, so committed locally now :)
[14:08] <seb128> nice
[14:08] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, theme issue... our selectors were more restrictive than Adwaita ones
[14:08] <seb128> so the upstream high contrast theme has the same issue?
[14:08] <seb128> can you comment on the bz bug to say so?
[14:09] <seb128> so upstream doesn't have to re-figure out the same thing as you did
[14:11] <Trevinho> yep
[14:11] <seb128> thanks
[14:12]  * didrocks will let Trevinho reorganize his bilbeto then (as I didn't get an answer)
[14:13] <Trevinho> didrocks: sorry, yeah... let me land this fix at this point
[14:13] <Trevinho> sorry I missed the pings, I was in grep-focus mode :D
[14:13] <didrocks> and I was grepped out
[14:13] <didrocks> I see! :)
[14:13] <Trevinho> lol
[14:13] <didrocks> Trevinho: did you see my message about g-c-c and top settings bar?
[14:13] <Trevinho> grep -v didrocks
[14:14] <Trevinho> Oh, -v isn't for verbose... :-P
[14:14] <didrocks> tsssss
[14:14] <Trevinho> didrocks: g-c-c .. oh, let me see
[14:15] <didrocks> Trevinho: it's quite easy to see -> headbar, line isn't aligned
[14:15] <didrocks> doesn't happen on adwaita
[14:15]  * Trevinho goes with GDK_SCALE=2
[14:16] <didrocks> also, we have 2 lines
[14:16] <didrocks> where adwaita has only one
[14:16] <Trevinho> oh, wait I've still the buttons in the left..
[14:16] <didrocks> :p
[14:16]  * Trevinho really wanted to keep them there -_-
[14:18]  * Trevinho goes back to the ugly side... and sees the issue
[14:19] <Laney> you mac lover
[14:19] <Trevinho> but later, let me first fix the other one
[14:19] <Trevinho> NO!
[14:19] <Trevinho> But, i got used to them now, and... after years, you know.. you get older with such setup...
[14:20] <didrocks> Trevinho is indeed so old :p
[14:20] <Trevinho> eh, after I turned 30 I feel not as flexible I used to be :-D
[14:30] <Trevinho> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/fix-dialog-headerbar-min-height/+merge/331197
[14:32] <seb128> Laney, you mentioned gst-plugin-b earlier, are you working on a bug there or updating it? (just asking before debugging that segfault with videos under wayland more)
[14:33] <Laney> updating
[14:33] <Laney> going to upload it in a few minutes
[14:34] <Laney> or you can get it from deb https://swift.canonistack.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_e8074875467b46b7ab3c41ac60ccfbe7/ubuntu artful main now
[14:34] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:34] <Laney> amd64 only :-)
[14:34] <seb128> I'm on amd64 on artful
[14:34] <seb128> only my xenial install is still 32b
[14:34] <seb128> that url is 401, but I can wait for the upload
[14:35]  * Laney puts this in the newsletter
[14:35] <Laney> no
[14:35] <Laney> add that line to your sources.list
[14:35] <jbicha> seb128: you're bleeding edge now! ;)
[14:36] <seb128> Laney, too late to include an extra patch?
[14:36] <Laney> to bad?
[14:36] <Laney> is it upstream?
[14:36] <Laney> no, I'll push and you can add it
[14:36] <seb128> Laney, https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/commit/?id=3f2a3d0d
[14:37] <seb128> I think it's the segfault that takes shotwell down
[14:37] <seb128> or crash nautilus when you open a video properties and close it
[14:37] <seb128> it looks like they didn't backport to 1.12
[14:37] <Laney> done
[14:37] <Laney> you can probably ask for that in #gstreamer
[14:38] <seb128> Laney, "done" mean you pushed to a git vcs somewhere?
[14:40] <seb128> Laney, would you be angry if I just patch/dput today and figure out the vcs thing next week?
[14:40] <seb128> I don't think I've the slot before my eow to figure out how to deal with that git vcs and git buildpackage or whatever is needed
[14:41] <seb128> or I guess that can wait for monday
[14:41] <seb128> jibel, ^ btw that's the shotwell/nautilus segfault on video issue you are having under wayland
[14:41] <seb128> it's pulled in with vaapi
[14:42] <seb128> so not on the default installation unless you click that installer box
[14:42] <Laney> I guess I can include it for you
[14:42] <Laney> might be a good learning opportunity but if you have no time that's fine
[14:43] <seb128> thanks, as you want
[14:43] <seb128> I guess it can wait monday as well
[14:43] <seb128> I sort of know how to deal with git, I just always end up screwed something and taking half an hour to sort it out
[14:43] <seb128> so probably not for today
[14:44] <seb128> well git itself is fine now, I just don't know how to use gbp or cherry pick upstream commits to a debian style workflow
[14:49] <jibel> seb128, okay, thanks. Let me know if I can help testing the fix
[14:50] <seb128> should be good, I can confirm the issue, I think we just need to cherrypick the patch I was talking about
[14:55] <Trevinho> seb128: sent fix also upstream...
[14:55] <Trevinho> didrocks: you want to check that too? Not sure bileto completed :)
[14:56]  * Trevinho takes 10-minutes pool-swim break at the pool
[14:56] <Laney> haha
[14:57] <didrocks> Trevinho: not completed and going off in 30 minutes for dentist appointment
[14:57] <Trevinho> didrocks: ah, ok... no worries
[14:57] <didrocks> enjoy swimming :)
[14:58] <Trevinho> didrocks: well, you can still apply locally, beauuty of css
[14:58] <Laney> Trevinho: bug should be reassigned to gtk, yes?
[14:58] <Trevinho> Laney: yep
[14:58]  * Trevinho does that
[14:58] <Laney> hinting at you :P
[14:59] <Laney> Trevinho: also not sure what happened on gnome bug #760651 but it doesn't look right
[15:00] <Trevinho> Laney: git bz didn't undestand well
[15:00] <Laney> is it actually pushed?
[15:00] <Laney> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/ doesn't have it
[15:00] <Laney> seems the URL changed
[15:01] <Trevinho> Laney: yes, it's fixed in mutter
[15:02] <Laney> aha
[15:02] <Trevinho> https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=8532b102909e09e1e0fdbd7f2701a7c40de1af5f
[15:02] <Trevinho> let me post this
[15:02] <Laney> yeah I see it, thanks!
[15:02] <Trevinho> I wanted before, it was an open tab.. forgot to finish
[15:04] <jackpot51> Has anyone experienced HiDPI issues in X11, such as this? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788049
[15:06] <didrocks> I guess Trevinho is the HiDPI expert here ^
[15:06] <jackpot51> These issues are present in the installer as well, so even users with Wayland-capable computers will experience them
[15:07] <didrocks> sure, as we forced the installer in an X session
[15:19] <seb128> jbicha, btw did you see my suggestion about dropping euronews and guardian from grilo-plugins
[15:19] <seb128> ?
[15:20] <seb128> I don't think you replied (or I didn't read the reply)
[15:23] <seb128> that was some days ago
[15:30] <Trevinho> jackpot51: I think Jonas (who did those changes) is aware of them, we'll keep in touch next week for fixing them I guess
[15:33] <Trevinho> Laney: if you can approve also https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/vertical-linked-buttons-tuning/+merge/330958 I'll do the landing
[15:33] <jackpot51> Trevinho: Where can I speak to Jonas?
[15:33] <Trevinho> jackpot51: #gnome-shell on gimpnet
[15:34] <Trevinho> jackpot51: jadahl the nickname, but he's in Taiwan, so consider that
[15:34] <Laney> Trevinho: mmm, maybe c-lobrano wants to review?
[15:34]  * Laney isn't very "in" the theme atm
[15:34] <seb128> Trevinho, he's off for the week, maybe already travelling
[15:34] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, right... He told me that he would arrive in NY tomorrow, so definetely he is
[15:35] <Trevinho> Laney: i asked him but he said something like he would more learn from that :)
[15:35] <Laney> heh
[15:35] <Laney> ok, then can you include a before/after screenshot please? :-)
[15:36] <c-lobrano> Laney, Trevinho: I confirm :D
[15:36] <seb128> Laney, thanks for including that gst patch!
[15:36] <Laney> np
[16:03] <Laney> meh, why are vcs never up to date in ubuntu :(
[16:03] <Laney> xnox: do you have commits for your NM uploads?
[16:06] <Trevinho> ouch, I should probably refactor the headerbar code again (as per didier comment on separator)
[16:07] <Trevinho> also HighContrast has other issues too, though
[16:10] <mhall119> kenvandine[m][m]: willcooke: is the Unity->GNOME migration documentation somewhere public? I don't see anything other than the outline on the GNOME wiki
[16:14] <kenvandine> mhall119, all i've gotten done is what's on the wiki
[16:14] <kenvandine> planning to work on it while traveling though
[16:15] <kenvandine> this weekend
[16:16] <mhall119> kenvandine: ack, thanks. Let me know if the rest of us can help. I'm going to work on the banner for the gnome website for that
[16:16] <kenvandine> mhall119, thx
[16:59] <dobey> uhm
[16:59] <dobey> hey all
[17:00] <dobey> so, what would make "org.freedesktop.secrets" dbus service provided by gnome-keyring-daemon fail to work?
[17:23] <dobey> apparently dbus-user-session got installed somehow, and it breaks everything
[17:30]  * oSoMoN EOD
[17:30] <oSoMoN> desktoppers, see you on Sunday on the other side of the pond
[17:30] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, see ya' soon!
[17:30] <Trevinho> see you soon
[17:31] <oSoMoN> and safe travel to everyone
[17:43] <jjjoooeee> hi there.  haven't seen any activity on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1714542, but it seems pretty bad.  any further help i can give on tracking it down?
[18:15] <Laney> night, see some of you laters
[18:50] <davidcalle> mhall119: kenvandine: I'm still happy to help, but I haven't received any meeting invite. Just let me know where you need help :)
[18:55] <kenvandine> davidcalle, thx, i could definately use some help