[00:07] Well, there's a learning curve but speed does improve over time. I either want that or a keyboard with a meta key. maybe I can remap the menu key on a windows keyboard or something but this Ducky I'm using doesn't even have a Windows/Super key [01:17] mongodb ipo. 40M in cash, 400M in debt. 100M revenue on 160M expense. so... 1B valuation... what do you think they will actually try to raise? [01:27] Steve Jobs [01:27] "We could be negatively impacted if the GNU Affero General Public License Version 3 and other open source licenses under which some of our software is licensed are not enforceable." [01:27] Because those numbers are terrible [01:27] wow. [01:27] lol, @ trying to raise steve jobs. [01:27] those numbers aren't that bad. [01:28] I don't understand the 1B valuation [01:28] That reads like assumed income [01:28] ten times earning is std valuation [01:30] It might be std, but it feels like fiction [01:30] especially on something like MongoDB [01:31] But then again I've been wrong on financial matters so take my prognostication with appropriate grains of salt [01:34] It is cool that they're putting the AGPL et al as risks if they are unenforceable [01:35] Though I would put "PostgreSQL takes over our mindshare" as a risk. ;) [01:37] i'm trying to find companies that have similar revenue, but stock screeners suck :) [01:38] yes [01:38] The only thing that they have to sell is their brand [01:38] It reminds me a lot of Twitter [01:41] CARS as in CARS.com has a bit more revnue, but similar market valueation and similar lack of profit ;) [01:41] yes, twiter, snapchat, atlassian. [01:41] Atlassian is not as much in that category [01:41] they have a private product that they sell [01:42] BOX is similar enough too [01:42] but Twitter doesn't sell a product [01:42] Snapchat doesn't sell a product [01:42] and MongoDB doesn't sell a product, they sell a service [01:42] (iirc) [01:42] huh, carbonite on the other hand... weird. I wonder why carbonite is so under rated. [01:43] mongodb sells products. [01:43] no different than oracle or msft sells products [01:44] this is fun, i've never really looked through small cap tech companies before. [01:44] etreme networks, zomg, their revenue dried up. [01:45] MongoDB has Atlas [01:45] Everything else you can download afaict [01:45] Oh, sorry, enterprise requires a subscription [01:46] products, services... what is the difference tehse days :) [01:46] more revenue than netgear! [01:47] Netgear is taking a beating [01:47] whoa, rambus still exists. [02:48] wheeee [10:31] I watch a couple stocks for fun. TSLA and AMD are both in the red by quite a bit now [12:40] morning [13:05] cmaloney: valuations are 99% bs 99% of the time [13:06] rev*10 may be standard but I agree its bs [13:06] there just isn't a better marker [13:16] It just reminds me of some friends who had an assumed income for their mortgage that was essentially fiction [13:30] i much prefer earnings*10 to rev*10, but when you have no earnings, its tough, because then your valuation would be zero or negative. Which makes sense, why value a company that loses money? [13:35] *cough* [13:47] <_stink__> because eyeballs! [21:43] oh man... http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/copy_file_range.2.html sweet syscall, sendfile with length limits. I wondered why I never heard of it and it was added in 4.5. [21:45] err wait... no socket support? I need to play