[01:19] <boblamont> I just let Software Update update everything it wanted to (running 16.04.3/Lubunutu).. now Pidgin doesn't open, though task manager shows it does launch... if I open with the terminal, the terminal just locks up waiting for pidgin to close (killing it in the task manager gets the prompt back)... it also seems like it takes longer than it should for the shutdown options to come up when I click on shutdown... any ideas what's going on?
[01:36] <k-rock> How do I set my computer to connect to a http proxy on my computer?
[01:37] <Toba> By http proxy on your computer, do you mean configure it on the computer, or that you are *operating a proxy* on your computer that you want to connect to?
[01:37] <Toba> Normally, you connect to a proxy that's running on a server, is why I ask
[01:37] <k-rock> I have a separate proxy on a raspberry pi on my network
[01:38] <k-rock> And I want to direct my ubuntu laptop to connect to it
[01:38] <Toba> do you want to send all the traffic on your system via the raspberry pi, or just network traffic from your web browser?
[01:38] <k-rock> hmm
[01:38] <Toba> it's easier with just the browser traffic.
[01:38] <Toba> It's in the config pages of the browser.
[01:38] <k-rock> in a browser setting?
[01:39] <drduck> Why is it that sometimes when I press M-x in classical Ubuntu, some strange search dialog appears outside of the emacs window. What's it for?
[01:39] <Toba> yes, k-rock
[01:40] <Toba> normally people only send their web browser or email connections via proxies
[01:40] <Toba> because you can really only do tcp with most of them
[01:41] <k-rock> Ok, I'll have a look
[01:41] <k-rock> thanks
[01:41] <drduck> It actually happens whenever I press the alt key.
[01:41] <Toba> Good luck. Bye
[01:54] <boblamont> drduck: unlikely, but none of your keys are stuck, are they?
[01:55] <drduck> boblamont: No.
[01:56] <drduck> Whenever I press the alt key, I get some sort of command bar. This is the case no matter what application I have
[01:56] <drduck> open
[01:56] <drduck> .
[01:58] <drduck> I disabled it. All is well now.
[02:02] <boblamont> drduck: that's good, glad you got it fixed!
[02:16] <jiffe> so I still can't figure out whats doing an apt update
[02:16] <jiffe> unattended-upgrades ran before 7 this morning but I see apt/lists files updated after 9am
[02:26] <Datz> Hi, I was here before asking about why hyperthreading does not appear to be working on my install of kubuntu 16.04. H/T was on auto in the bios, and worked file with other OS's I enabled it always, but I still don't see the appropriate amount of logical cores.
[02:29] <Datz> Ok, so I just found, and am reading this, my processor is listed https://askubuntu.com/questions/929274/16-04-how-to-get-the-recommended-intel-microcode-package-to-fix-hyper-threading
[02:48] <birkoff> Please help I'm getting:  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.7 but it is not going to be installed
[02:54] <Loshki>  
[03:02] <coldasfucc> Hey, I'm running 17.04 with a Intel kabylake processor, and there's horrible screen tearing when scrolling through opera/chrome. hexchat also flickers sometimes, and it's getting annoying. Is there a solution?
[03:14] <akik> coldasfucc: there's a couple of config options to fix it, at least for older releases
[03:16] <akik> coldasfucc: have you created any xorg config yourself?
[03:21] <akik> coldasfucc: put this content in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xorg.conf and re-login to your system https://pastebin.com/raw/fsW2dacB
[03:29] <coldasfucc> akik: I have not
[03:33] <akik> coldasfucc: try that and write back if it helped, please
[03:34] <Datz> So, I tried the microcode recommended in that link, didn't fix hyperthreading
[03:39] <coldasfucc> akik: seems to have worked for scrolling, although my animations are a bit choppier. I'm not sure if that's related to this or not though.
[03:44] <Datz> ok, looks like it might have something to do with my bios too.. odd since it has worked with linux and windows fine for over a year
[03:44] <Datz> hyperthreading not working with linux  ^^
[03:45] <akik> coldasfucc: which animations?
[03:46] <akik> coldasfucc: i disable smooth scrolling in firefox so it's faster. don't know if chrome has that kind of knob
[03:47] <coldasfucc> Window opening/closing animations
[03:47] <akik> coldasfucc: ok don't know about that
[03:48] <coldasfucc> yeah, animations are fucked, but i use a kwin tiling script :C
[03:49] <coldasfucc> latte dock also feels less responsive
[03:49] <coldasfucc> same with typing
[03:50] <coldasfucc> oops chrome is still tearing a bit
[03:52] <coldasfucc> Could this be related to me scaling the display with KDE?
[03:57] <django_> hi
[03:57] <django_> anyone know some software to transfer files to my iphone?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> android phone, django_ ?
[04:01] <django_> cfhowlett, no
[04:01] <django_> iphone
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !iphone | django_
[04:01] <django_> cfhowlett, ty!!!!
[04:02] <django_> muaaa
[04:02] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[05:22] <demophobia> How do I get Japanese working in lubuntu 16.04?
[05:22] <demophobia> i mean, in leafpad
[05:25] <demophobia> or, how do i read japanese stored in a text file?
[05:33] <demophobia> !iso
[05:37] <Ben64> demophobia: it should just work
[05:48] <Jordan_U> demophobia: Do you know if the file is utf8 or some other character set?
[07:36] <untitled> Hi fellows, what's the deal with ubuntu 16.04, after new installation internet seems a bit slower than usual
[07:36] <untitled> looks like some resolving issues
[07:39] <untitled> yeah, that might be ipv6
[07:40] <untitled> disabled it and it seems faster now
[07:55] <Ben64> untitled: ipv6 doesn't make internet slower
[08:06] <royal_screwup21> find -iname <name of file> searches for the EXACT name of the file - not files that are similarly worded. For example, if I have a file named "foo20", and I remember just "foo" and not "20", is there any way I can find it using the "find" command without having to manually look through all directories?
[08:07] <royal_screwup21> similarly named*
[08:07] <Ben64> find -name "foo*"
[08:07] <royal_screwup21> ah thank you! :)
[08:08] <untitled> Ben64: then why it gets faster after disabling ipv6? :d
[08:09] <untitled> there is some resolving issues, I'm not saying the protocol is buggy
[08:12] <Ben64> pick a better dns server then?
[08:13] <Ben64> ipv6 is an important part of the internet and will only become more necessary
[08:25] <untitled> Ben64: I've been hearing these kind of talk since year 2000 and no sign of importance of ipv6 here
[08:25] <untitled> only slowing things
[08:38] <pollt> Hi, I have a problem with a TAP network interface messing up my internet connection. Disabled through terminal, but it keeps popping up under ifconfig within a few minutes, stopping my internet connection. How do I completely remove it?
[08:39] <pollt> Running Ubuntu gnome 16.04 BTW.
[09:52] <orb-a> hello
[09:52] <orb-a> is it possible to have both nvidia and intel hd graphics installed at the same time?
[09:54] <orb-a> currently nvidia is installed and i noticed that `xserver-xorg-video-intel` isn't and when i try to install `xserver-xorg-video-intel` it says there is a dependency issue: Dependend on xorg-video-abi-20 / xserver-xorg-core
[09:58] <orb-a> i fixed it by installing `mesa-utils`
[10:07] <linuxlove> how can i get info from my video card?
[10:08] <linuxlove> guys?
[10:08] <oerheks> systemsettings > details, in ubuntu-unity
[10:09] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who knows if it is possible to install ubuntu on usb and make it bootable on both pc and macbook? I'm able to create a bootable installaition on macbook, but can I make it bootable also on a pc?
[10:10] <oerheks> luc4, sure, https://itsfoss.com/create-live-usb-of-ubuntu-in-windows/
[10:11] <oerheks> lots of howto's > https://askubuntu.com/a/489556
[10:11] <oerheks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[10:17] <luc4> oerheks: sorry, I wasn't clear. I want to install ubuntu on a usb device and use it there. Not a live, a REAL installation. I can do this for the mac and it works. Now I would like to make it boot also on a regular pc. I suspect I need a secondo EFI partition.
[10:20] <oerheks> luc4, i guess that does not work that way, except if the hardware is the same
[10:20] <luc4> oerheks: mkusb is able to create a device booting everywhere
[10:20] <luc4> oerheks: so I suspect this is possible
[10:20] <oerheks> yes, mkusb can do a live iso
[10:21] <luc4> oerheks: and persistent
[10:21] <luc4> oerheks: but it is not a real installation
[10:21] <oerheks> persistent is just a storage part hooked on the live iso
[10:21] <luc4> oerheks: but it seems that firmwares and pc and mac can all boot the system
[10:22] <pollt> So no one has previous experience with tap-problems?
[10:22] <luc4> also I can boot my USB device on both, I just need to start manually from grub, which is not very comfortable
[10:27] <tomreyn> luc4: this seems to have some of the info you're looking for https://medium.com/@mmiglier/ubuntu-installation-on-usb-stick-with-pure-efi-boot-mac-compatible-469ad33645c9
[10:43] <luc4> tomreyn: yes, I followed that and I can boot from the mac, but not on the pc
[10:43] <luc4> tomreyn: the EFI partition is now HFS+, and cannot probably be booted on a pc
[10:44] <tomreyn> luc4: and the mac can't ahndle vfat efi boot parititons?
[10:44] <luc4> tomreyn: not according to the document
[10:47] <tomreyn> luc4: right. but this article says formatting the efi boot partition as hfs can make it work with both mac and linux
[10:49] <tomreyn> luc4: so what happens when you try to boot it on a pc? you get the grub console prompt? and an error messag ebefore that?
[11:04] <luc4> tomreyn: the computer starts grub from the main hd even when USB is selected
[11:27] <CoderEurope> CAN? I do this on an 8GB usb on deepin 15.1 ?
[11:27] <CoderEurope> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/6o35ef/live_usb_ubuntu_encrypted/dkex43l/?context=3
[11:28] <bazhang> CoderEurope, is deepin MINT or what
[11:29] <nbusrone> What does it mean by "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" when installing application at apt-get install ?
[11:30] <CoderEurope> debian testing : http://distrowatch.com/Deepin
[11:31] <bazhang> CoderEurope, ask in deepin support
[11:31] <bazhang>  /msg alis list deepin  CoderEurope
[11:33] <nbusrone> I went to synaptic having the same error.Broken
[12:00] <nbusrone> Anyone know how to install gimagereader  ? I am getting packages have unmet dependencies
[12:00] <nbusrone> Besides,  I am getting error viewing long length image .
[12:07] <nbusrone> I am using The GNOME image viewer. sometimes image was fully black .is it a bug ?
[12:22] <oerheks> nbusrone, apt install -f # would fix dependencies..
[12:22] <oerheks> and did you fully update before installing? apt update && apt full-upgrade
[12:29] <nbusrone> oerheks :  I did apt update but not full upgrade.What would be the difference ?
[12:30] <oerheks> full-upgrade would give newer packages/kernels, when you run update, you might see x not updated
[12:31] <oerheks> i always run full-upgrade, to be sure
[12:33] <AquaL1te> sup! are there any plans for ubuntu to introduce selinux perhaps? i know debian has had it on their release wishlist for years
[12:34] <oerheks> AquaL1te, no.
[12:34] <oerheks> !selinux
[12:36] <AquaL1te> oerheks: okay thanks
[12:39] <nbusrone> oerheks :  I am using older version of ubuntu and don't plan to upgrade to newer version.I still finding how to do a full backup on application installed.
[12:41] <kostkon> nbusrone, how old?
[12:43] <nbusrone> kostkon : 14.04.5
[12:44] <kostkon> nbusrone, ok.
[12:46] <nbusrone> kostkon : Does Aptik able to backup fully 14.04 application installed and transfer to newer fresh install 16.04 ?
[12:49] <kostkon> nbusrone, apt-get? Something along the line of this? https://askubuntu.com/q/9135/1651
[12:50] <darkad> my pcie usb3.1 adapter doesn't work, plaese any help?
[12:52] <oerheks> nbusrone, full-upgrade does not bring you to 16.04 .. do-release-upgrade does
[12:57] <captine> hi all.  just trying to ssh into a LXContainer and get an error "Bad Authenitaction.  Allowed uPublicKey"?  Anyone able to assist?
[12:57] <captine> running ubuntu 16.04
[13:00] <darkad> using sudo lshw it gives no informations about my new pci e - usb adapter card
[13:01] <oerheks> darkad, lspci would be more direct
[13:02] <oerheks> captine,
[13:02] <oerheks> 1
[13:02] <oerheks> down vote
[13:02] <oerheks> A newly created LXC container using the ubuntu-cloud template comes with the SSH daemon configured to not allow passwords: https://stackoverflow.com/a/34076170
[13:03] <oerheks> oops, pasted 2 lines too much :-D
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> 'too many' ... use 'many' if you can count it ... 1-2-3... ;-)
[13:07] <oerheks> hey MonkeyDust, long time no see
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> hi oerheks
[13:13] <darkad> oerheks, no string about my new card
[13:14] <brainwash> darkad: I would check the system log by running "dmesg"
[13:15] <darkad> brainwash, tons of strings
[13:15] <brainwash> some are certainly related to the new pci card
[13:16] <brainwash> maybe share the whole output https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:17] <CoderEurope> I keep getting hacked on Telegram-web - How To Stop This ?
[13:17] <darkad> brainwash, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25599267/
[13:20] <darkad> brainwash, the pcie card is powered by sata
[13:22] <CoderEurope> Fustrated - someone just quit me off IRC - cos I have telegram showing notifications - how do OI wipe firefox cache ?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> CoderEurope  simply remove the ~/.cache folder
[13:25] <brainwash> darkad: not quite sure where the relevant part is
[13:25] <CoderEurope> MonkeyDust: https://imgur.com/M7hngWT ?
[13:26] <tesla_> use rm -rf
[13:26] <tesla_> or just -r
[13:26] <tesla_> for recursive
[13:26] <brainwash> darkad: do the usb ports work in general? for like charging a device, or usb hardware like lamps?
[13:27] <CoderEurope> How DO I check it worked ?
[13:27] <CoderEurope> And I am still gettin' telegram notifications :(
[13:27] <captine> oerheks, thanks
[13:27] <oerheks> captine, have fun!
[13:29] <darkad> brainwash, yes they works
[13:31] <parapan> hi there is someone more advanced in using / configuring cups ?
[13:32] <brainwash> darkad: sadly, no idea then
[13:33] <darkad> brainwash, thanks anyuway
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> CoderEurope  yes, type... rm -r ~/.cache
[13:34] <CoderEurope> yes and its so easy - thats wat I did - but that doesn't answer my last question. So wat does that tell ya ?
[13:42] <glines> how often are packages removed from the public Ubuntu mirrors? I need a reliable source from which to grab older packages, but it seems like a lot of the packages I'm trying to download aren't there anymore
[13:43] <oerheks> glines, when an ubuntu version is EOL, the serverspace will be cleared, only the old-releases server stays, see eolupgrade factoid
[13:43] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[13:44] <oerheks> not sure why you want old, vulnerable or faulty packages, but that is your only chance. no support though
[13:48] <glines> oerheks: are packages ever removed from the mirrors before an ubuntu version is EOL? In particular, I'm looking at the "apport_2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1_all.deb" package on xenial
[13:49] <oerheks> glines, then search on launchpad?
[13:49] <CoderEurope> beta.launchpad.net - Is that for developers in rage ?
[13:49] <glines> I see it on launchpad. I'm just wondering if that's where all packages that are removed from the mirrors are found
[13:50] <oerheks> glines, yes.
[13:50] <glines> okay, I'll just grab it from there
[13:50] <oerheks> oke, have fun, i am off
[14:18] <crised> Threre is a package I can't install... Why? https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/pcl
[14:18] <crised> Ubuntu 16.04  E: Unable to locate package libpcl
[14:21] <bcowan> pcl/libpcl? check which
[14:27] <bcowan> crised, my guess is libpcl-dev  apt search is your friend
[14:28] <crised> bcowan: Seems that I have to go from source
[14:28] <crised> https://askubuntu.com/a/626123/127130
[14:29] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:30] <bcowan> crised, are you using 14.10?
[14:30] <crised> bcowan: 16.04
[14:31] <bcowan> crised, libpcl1/artful 1.6-2 amd64
[14:31] <bcowan>   Portable Coroutine Library (PCL)
[14:31] <crised> bcowan: nope: https://larrylisky.com/2016/11/03/point-cloud-library-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts/
[14:35] <bcowan> crised, is there no ibpcl-common1.8/artful 1.8.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu1 amd64
[14:35] <bcowan>   Point Cloud Library - common library
[15:16] <bacon-user> will ubuntu make my pc slow like windows?
[15:18] <idscip> bacon-user: the opposite
[15:18] <idscip> What’s your machine?
[15:18] <bacon-user> idscip i don´t have a machine
[15:19] <idscip> You know what I meant, pc?
[15:20] <bacon-user> it says desktop pc on the label
[15:20] <bacon-user> HP on the brand
[15:20] <idscip> Does it have a sticker saying ‘i5’ or something like that?
[15:24] <idscip> And how about http://www.wikihow.com/Check-Computer-RAM
[16:05] <nathdwek> Hey I have a question regarding this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/696413/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-any-disk-on-dell-xps-13-9350
[16:06] <nathdwek> I do not have the admin rights on the windows install and I cannot uninstall it
[16:06] <nathdwek> However I installed a fresh disk in my laptop
[16:06] <nathdwek> Is there anyway to keep windows and ubuntu working alongside each other if they are on separate drives?
[16:09] <pewpewpew> I have a problem: after the usual purpleish ubuntu splash/loading screen, i have a black screen (with a mouse cursor). I cant get to any tty from this black screen either. This is 17.04
[16:14] <Schnabeltierchen> hi i´m trying to write a init.d script which runs a screen session at startup, but i cant reattach it. http://termbin.com/is8b may someone have a look?
[16:23] <pavlos> Schnabeltierchen: first line no space, #!/bin/sh
[16:31] <Datz> Hi, I've been having trouble getting hyperthreading working on kubuntu 16.04. I've tried several micocode versions, as well as updated by bios. Looking for any other suggestions.
[16:37] <adrian_1908> Datz: which CPU?
[16:37] <tecan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK1_(program)  is missing from the repositories
[16:37] <bcowan> Datz, some older motherboards need it enabled in as an option in the bios config
[16:41] <Datz> adrian_1908: it's the i6700
[16:41] <Datz> bcowan: I've enabled it.
[16:43] <adrian_1908> Datz: And `lscpu | grep CPU` doesn't list "0-7" but "0-3"?
[16:44] <oerheks> Datz, how do you tell HT is not working ( properly)  ??
[16:44] <Datz> oh I mean i7 6700
[16:44] <Datz> adrian_1908: yes
[16:45] <jer> Datz, have you compiled a custom kernel?
[16:45] <Datz> no
[16:45] <Datz> fresh install of 16.04
[16:45] <adrian_1908> This is strange, something this basic should work out of the box, and huge amounts of users are testing this. I'd likewise assume this is hardware/mobo related.
[16:45] <Datz> yeah
[16:46] <Datz> https://hothardware.com/news/critical-flaw-in-intel-skylake-and-kaby-lake-hyperthreading-discovered-requiring-bios-microcode-fix
[16:46] <oerheks> bcowan, maybe because the license? GNU Lesser General Public License .. grab it from here, with python https://github.com/sk1project/sk1-wx
[16:46] <Datz> I just updated bios, which says the last revison should fix it though
[16:46] <Datz> and it works with windows, and has worked with other versions of ubuntu
[16:46] <Datz> actually, including 16.04 running mate
[16:48] <adrian_1908> No idea, looks like you covered all bases :/
[16:49] <Datz> :`(
[16:49] <Datz> emailing gigabyte
[16:49] <oerheks> Datz, again:  how do you tell HT is not working ( properly)  ??
[16:49] <yao_ziyuan> want to create a live cd that can erase everything on a laptop where the cd is booted. any suggestion?
[16:49] <Datz> oerheks: How can I tell if it is?
[16:50] <oerheks> .. oh, you claim it does not.
[16:50] <Datz> guess it could be, behind the scenes..
[16:50] <Datz> I do claim it is not
[16:50] <Ben64> based on....
[16:51] <Datz> cpuinfo output, system monitor, htop
[16:51] <Datz> probably someother stuff along the way
[16:51] <yao_ziyuan> o, i see. a ubuntu live dvd can do that.
[16:51] <Ben64> pastebin lscpu
[16:51] <oerheks> so did you load the microcode in the drivers tool ?
[16:52] <Datz> oerheks: yes, I've tried 2 different versions
[16:52] <oerheks> and give more info, such sparse claim..
[16:52] <Ben64> and /proc/cpuinfo
[16:52] <Datz> not the first time I've been here asking about it, but I guess I have to prove it every time.
[16:54] <Datz> https://hastebin.com/baduniniru.sql
[16:54] <Datz> brb
[16:54] <tecan> Skencilits probably because inkscape works better than sk1
[16:54] <tecan> oops
[16:58] <Datz> so, hyperthreading was apparently broken in my bios before I updated it, which was after I install 16.04 (you can see they fixed it in bios here which I just updated: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z170-HD3-rev-10#support-dl
[16:58] <pavlos> Datz: sudo lshw -C cpu ... the last line is configuration, it should tell threads
[16:58] <Datz> so before I email gigabyte, is there a step I should take with the OS first?
[16:59] <oerheks> Datz, 16.04 .. still on kernel 4.4 ? you might want to use HWE
[16:59] <oerheks> !hwe
[17:00] <Datz> pavlos: https://hastebin.com/ojevowozif.pl
[17:00] <Datz> oerheks: ok thanks, I'll look into that
[17:01] <oerheks> kernel 4.6+ would fix this
[17:01] <pavlos> Datz: right, 4 cores, 8 threads, 2 threads per core
[17:02] <oerheks> lscpu is much more clear about it
[17:02] <Datz> pavlos: that's the i7 6700 there
[17:03] <Datz> just want the damn capabilities :)
[17:04] <Datz> oerheks: what's that about the xserver? I can run that command on kubuntu?
[17:05] <Datz> or should I run the server command?
[17:06] <Datz> oerheks: oh, tried to run it, says I'm at the newest version.
[17:07] <Datz> so should I continue my support request to gigabyte?
[17:07] <nacc> Datz: what does `uname -r` say?
[17:07] <Datz> Linux media 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.89-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:07] <nacc> Datz: lol
[17:07] <nacc> that's not even an Ubuntu kernel at this point
[17:07] <nacc> Debian?
[17:08] <Datz> shit
[17:08] <Datz> ran command from my irc window
[17:08] <Datz> lol
[17:08] <nacc> ah ok :)
[17:08] <bacon-user> I have ubuntu on my computer but when I click on setup it does not work
[17:08] <Datz> 4.10.0-35-generic
[17:08] <nacc> Datz: ok, yeah, then you're running the HWE stack already
[17:09] <nacc> Datz: sounds like a message to gigabyte if `lscpu` is not indicating HT is on
[17:09] <pavlos> Datz: is there a pastebin for lscpu ?
[17:10] <Datz> it's all in the above hastebin I beleive
[17:10] <Datz> 1 thread per core it says
[17:13] <Datz> https://hastebin.com/ibumocexay.sql
[17:13] <Datz> odd that ubuntu mate 16.04 worked before
[17:13] <Datz> I could try and reinstall or something
[17:14] <Ben64> try a live usb
[17:14] <Datz> yeah.. nouveau drivers don't work.. so it's super slow..
[17:15] <Datz> I think I even noticed it then, but that was before bios update
[17:15] <Ben64> doesn't matter if it's slow, you're just checking lscpu
[17:15] <Datz> yeah
[17:15] <Datz> guess I'll abandon my gigabyte request for now
[17:16] <Ben64> and make sure your bios is actually updated
[17:27] <Datz> just did that this morning, it said it provided a fix
[17:27] <Datz> and it probably did, as the live cd shows me 8 logical cores
[17:27] <Datz> so it's my install
[17:28] <Datz> so the question is, can i fix my install, or should I have to try and re-install?
[17:34] <Datz> I guess it's a new install. I could just try and reinstall
[17:35] <Datz> must be some static kernel confiuration?
[17:39] <Datz> I guess I'll try and boot it one last time, then reinstall.
[18:03]  * Datz gives up
[18:03] <Datz> it's not going to work for me
[18:04] <Datz> can't even boot different kernels, screen just goes black
[18:05] <Datz> everything is broken, it's kinda ridiculous
[18:39] <ducasse> Datz: if the screen goes black you might need this (but i haven't followed your problem)
[18:39] <ducasse> !nomodeset
[18:41] <Datz> yeah, I have that set
[18:41] <Datz> although I just changed it to nouveau.modeset=0
[18:42] <Datz> I was also going to try and install nvidia drivers in safe mode as root, but the screen just freezes
[18:43] <Datz> going to just have to wait for next LTS, dual boot windows..
[18:43] <Datz> or try and go back to mate
[18:43] <Datz> I've spent hours and hours over the last couple days trying to get this running
[18:44] <leftyfb> Datz: mate = Ubuntu
[18:44] <Datz> and it does run, but with hyperthreading problems
[18:45] <borw3> Ubuntu 17.10 is comming out fully when?
[18:45] <Datz> well, i meant Ubuntu Mate
[18:45] <Datz> not some other mate variant
[18:46] <leftyfb> Datz: Ubuntu mate = Ubuntu + mate DE as opposed to Unity DE which has zero to do with your video drivers.
[18:46] <leftyfb> borw3: in October
[18:46] <ducasse> borw3: next month, see the topic in #ubuntu+1
[18:46] <Datz> leftyfb: yes, but ubuntu != mate
[18:46] <leftyfb> Datz: Mate is a Desktop environment. Not a distribution.
[18:47] <Datz> leftyfb: although your first statement told you thought otherwise
[18:47] <borw3> Thanks
[18:47] <leftyfb> Datz: Whether you're running Mate or Unity or Gnome Shell or KDE, has little to nothing to do with the issues you're having.
[18:48] <Datz> leftyfb: I know it shouldn't but I was running Ubuntu mate 16.04 without problems before
[18:50] <Datz> never knew it was pronounced maté
[18:53] <Datz> so, these nouveau drivers not working in this particular instance, is that something being worked on?
[18:53] <leftyfb> Datz: did you file a bug?
[18:53] <Datz> I did not
[18:53] <Mrokii> Hello. What can I do to activate an laptop (internal) webcam, or how can I check if it is working in Ubuntu?
[18:53] <Datz> it looks like it's a common issue
[18:54] <leftyfb> Datz: is there a bug report?
[18:54] <Datz> looking now
[18:55] <Datz> not sure whether to look into nouveau community, or ubuntu..
[19:04] <skypce> hi all
[19:24] <pewpewpew> I have a problem: on startup, after ubuntu loading screen, i have a black screen (with a mouse cursor). I cant get to any tty from this black screen. It was all working fine a few days ago, and I don't recall installing/updating any packages. I am not sure where to go from here
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hello
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://askubuntu.com/questions/104824/port-forward-to-a-port-on-the-same-machine
[19:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to do the same thing but I want it to remain on reboot
[19:57] <tomreyn> you could use iptables-save/-restore, or a firewall management interface such as UFW, shorewall, bastille...
[19:58] <tomreyn> iptables-persistent also
[19:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm would "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 25570 -j REDIRECT --to-port 25565" survive a reboot?
[19:58] <tomreyn> not by itself
[19:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what I want to do is everything going into port 80 be redirected to a different port with one exception url
[19:59] <Datz> To everyone who was following my hyperthreading problem, I reinstalled, and it's working now. No, I'm not sure how.
[20:00] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: iptables / netfilter has no concept of URLs, that's the application layer
[20:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> alright, would there be a different way to do this?
[20:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its two different problems probably
[20:01] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: you may want to use a webserver, reverse / caching proxy or application layer load balancer for this purpose
[20:03] <Jordan_U> tomreyn: Is it really a specific URL, or just a specific domain?
[20:03] <tomreyn> Jordan_U: how would i know? :)
[20:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah I first have to fix this thing. I was trying to set the box up with a static IP
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> since then it doesn seem to be able to resolv edns names
[20:04] <Jordan_U> ToAruShiroiNeko: Is it really a specific URL or just a specific domain?
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> just a url
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> a local url
[20:04] <Datz> nacc: pavlos oerheks. I re-installed after the bios update, and now hyperthreading is working
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> to be more specific if someone types www.mywebsite.com/foo they would be redirected to www.mywebsite.com/foo:####
[20:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> if someone types www.mywebsite.com/foo2 they would not be redirected
[20:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> only foo2 though
[20:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> everything else, not
[20:06] <Datz> humm, a new kernel update. I wonder if this is what broke H/T
[20:07] <oerheks> Bios update, good find.
[20:07] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: "redirected" in terms of returning a HTTP response with a "Location:" header, right?
[20:07] <Datz> oerheks: yeah, thing is, the update alone didn't fix it.
[20:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont know the terminology
[20:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> when they try top reach port 80 they end up on a different port without knowing
[20:08] <Datz> oerheks: but I'm just installing updates. Maybe this new kernel will break it.
[20:08]  * Datz will wait without too much guessing
[20:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> iptables does exactly this
[20:09] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: so what i said above is what you want: use a webserver, reverse / caching proxy or application layer load balancer for this purpose. a port redirection won't work for this.
[20:10] <EriC^^> ToAruShiroiNeko: iptables works with ip's, not webserver files
[20:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> can we fix my first problem first?
[20:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the dns isnt working :(
[20:11] <tomreyn> you can fix it. we may be able to help you fix it if you provide details.
[20:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://pastebin.com/AsC9ZM7L
[20:12] <Datz> nah, latest kernel is just fine
[20:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> this is what I have in /etc/network/interfaces/
[20:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://askubuntu.com/questions/470237/assigning-a-static-ip-to-ubuntu-server-14-04-lts <- I was following this
[20:12] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: are you using ubuntu 14.04 then?
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 16
[20:13] <tomreyn> 16.04.3?
[20:13] <tomreyn> or 16.10?
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I downloaded it today so I believe that is the latest
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> lte
[20:13] <tomreyn> !lts
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that one, yes
[20:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ubuntu Server 16.04.3 LTS
[20:14] <tomreyn> your interface is probably not called 'eth0' then
[20:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but it is
[20:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I commented out the original setting
[20:17] <tomreyn> sudo grep 'renamed from' /var/log/syslog
[20:17] <tomreyn> this should tell whether network interfaces are named differently
[20:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it did nothing
[20:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I didnt renamed my interface and I can ssh to the machine
[20:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it just cannot dns lookup
[20:19] <EriC^^> try "ip a | nc termview.me 9999"
[20:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[20:19] <tomreyn> ok, what does "systemd-resolve ubuntu.com" say?
[20:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ubuntu.com: 91.189.94.40
[20:20] <tomreyn> hmm so this resolves it fine
[20:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ther eare two more lines
[20:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it may be ached
[20:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannt apt-get update for example
[20:21] <tomreyn> what's the error message there?
[20:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[20:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> etc etc
[20:21] <tomreyn> hwich nameservers are you using?
[20:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> my nameserver is 192.168.1.1 the router
[20:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I tried 8.8.8.8 and did not make a difference
[20:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ufw may be interfereing? I do not see why it would
[20:22] <EriC^^> ToAruShiroiNeko: alias pasteit='nc 185.203.118.160 9999'
[20:22] <EriC^^> ToAruShiroiNeko: ip a | pasteit
[20:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://termview.me/upjs/
[20:23] <EriC^^> ToAruShiroiNeko: does ping 192.168.1.1 work?
[20:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes
[20:25] <tomreyn> dig ubuntu.com @192.168.1.1
[20:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> gah
[20:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> fixed
[20:25] <tomreyn> what was it?
[20:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> dsn-nameservers 192.168.1.1 -> dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1
[20:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I feel particularly stupid
[20:26] <tomreyn> oh, i missed this, too
[20:28] <eqlipse> hi everyone
[20:29] <eqlipse> can i get a tiny bit of help in here? or am i in the wrong channel
[20:29] <ducasse> eqlipse: depends on the question
[20:29] <leftyfb> !ask | eqlipse
[20:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> installed iptables-persistant
[20:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that too is taken care of :)
[20:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn you were mentioning a reverse / caching proxy or application layer load balancer ?
[20:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want access to foo2 to be only from local ips
[20:33] <eqlipse> I am starting an app as a regular user on startup. I have setup the server to autologin by editing the TTY1 which works as i want to. Now i edited the ~/.profile and added the line xinit <app name>. This also works but it asks me for a password. I want it not to ask me for a password. Can i add the user/password  to the "xinit <app name>" so that it will start without asking for anything else?
[20:34] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: use a http access restriction
[20:34] <leftyfb> eqlipse: can you explain what "app" you are starting on boot and for what purpose?
[20:35] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: which web server are you using now? any load balancer or reverse proxy (cache?)?
[20:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont think so
[20:35] <eqlipse> leftfb. the program is openpht something similar as KODI. this starts fine manually if i type "xinit openpht"
[20:35] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: which of the two questions is this an answer to?
[20:35] <leftyfb> eqlipse: tried putting it in /etc/rc.local ?
[20:36] <eqlipse> i tried autostarting it so many ways, but this seems to be the easiest/only thing that seems to work for me
[20:36] <eqlipse> leftyfb what syntax would i have to use to put it in /etc/rc.local ?
[20:37] <EriC^^> rc.local won't work, plus it'd run as root
[20:37] <leftyfb> eqlipse: su -c /path/to/app $USER
[20:38] <EriC^^> in what terminal is the gui app going to launch from rc.local
[20:39] <eqlipse> EriC, i edited the TTY1 so that the server auto login on a specific user
[20:39] <eqlipse> without asking for a password
[20:39] <EriC^^> yes, rc.local runs i think before a tty even exists
[20:40] <eqlipse> to start the program i just type OPENPHT from within my home folder, how can i find where the install folder is?
[20:41] <leftyfb> eqlipse: which openpht
[20:41] <eqlipse> the official, 1.8
[20:42] <leftyfb> eqlipse: no, type: which openpht
[20:42] <eqlipse> hahaha, ok :)
[20:42] <oerheks> from ?? https://github.com/RasPlex/OpenPHT/releases/download/v1.8.0.148-573b6d73/openpht_1.8.0.148-573b6d73-xenial_amd64.deb
[20:42] <leftyfb> eqlipse: if openpht is anything like kodi, then starting it from any tty should have it displayed on your monitor
[20:42] <eqlipse> it's based on kodi
[20:43] <oerheks> i think you need to start the systemD service file
[20:43] <leftyfb> oerheks: even better
[20:43] <eqlipse> leftyfb, i can get it running, not a problem, but i want to reboot my server and have it startup in openpht
[20:43] <leftyfb> eqlipse: sudo systemctl enable openpht
[20:43] <oerheks> sytemctl status openpht.service or something like that, i cannot find a good manual
[20:44] <oerheks> c/systemctl
[20:45] <oerheks> or are you running an older ubuntu, 14.04?
[20:46] <eqlipse> am running 16.04 server
[20:46] <oerheks> oke, and you got 'it starting under tty1 ..' what does that mean and how did you do that?
[20:46] <eqlipse> sudo systemctl enable openpht gives error no such file
[20:46] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  Does Ubuntu provide and support SDL?
[20:46] <leftyfb> eqlipse: mind you, it looks like openpht hasn't been updated in 6 months
[20:47] <oerheks> Richard_Cavell, jups https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sdl2
[20:47] <leftyfb> eqlipse: As I said before, I don't think logging the server in automatically and specifying a tty is necessary. You should try adding it to /etc/rc.local and see if it just starts
[20:47] <eqlipse> let me try that right away lefty...
[20:47] <leftyfb> eqlipse: The better way to do it is to create a systemd unit file and enable it
[20:48] <leftyfb> but try rc.local first
[20:49] <eqlipse> lefty, editied, going for reboot now
[20:49] <eqlipse> fingers crossed
[20:50] <eqlipse> didnt' do anything
[20:50] <eqlipse> i'm logged just to the prompt
[20:50] <leftyfb> eqlipse: you should look at /var/log/syslog to see why
[20:51] <oerheks> to the prompt.. that means the service is running?
[20:52] <eqlipse> in the log i see the line rc.local ERROR: unable to create GUI, i
[20:52] <eqlipse> i think what went wrong
[20:52] <eqlipse> hold on
[20:53] <EriC^^> *popcorn*
[20:53] <eqlipse> how do i include xinit in that line? (su -c /usr/bin/openpht $USER
[20:53] <leftyfb> eqlipse: mind you, you should replace $USER with your user
[20:53] <eqlipse> su -c xinit /usr/bin/openpht $USER ?
[20:54] <leftyfb> su -c /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht eqlipse
[20:54] <leftyfb> maybe: su -c "/usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht" eqlipse
[20:54] <leftyfb> you can also just test this from the command line instead of rebooting
[20:54] <leftyfb> sudo to root
[20:54] <leftyfb> run it from a terminal
[20:55] <eqlipse> just eqlipse? not $eqlipse?
[20:56] <leftyfb> unless you're exporting the $eqlipse variable globally somewhere, that won't work
[20:56] <akik> su syntax to change user is "su - username -c command"
[20:57] <leftyfb> akik: you don't always need - and you can specify the user last or first, doesn't matter, as long as you delineate the command from the user
[20:58] <leftyfb> in fact
[20:58] <leftyfb> akik: from the man page: "su [options] [username]"
[20:58] <leftyfb> if you want to get technical ;)
[20:58] <eqlipse> leftyfb, neither of the 2 worked
[20:59] <akik> i always use su - because then i know i will be in the new user shell
[20:59] <eqlipse> sudo -c /user/xxxx   and sudo -c "/usr/xxxx"
[20:59] <akik> otherwise i'm left in the original user directory
[21:00] <leftyfb> akik: correct, but that doesn't really matter in this case
[21:00] <EriC^^> nothing matters in this case, you're not starting a gui from rc.local
[21:00] <eqlipse> lefty, i did notice an xserver error during startup before the prompt
[21:00] <akik> and that's the problem that people have having wrong permissions in their home directories
[21:01] <akik> so it's better to always use su -
[21:02] <eqlipse> xorg-server throws error cannot open /dev/tty0 (permission denied)
[21:02] <leftyfb> ah
[21:03] <leftyfb> maybe: export DISPLAY=:0 ; su -c "/usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht" eqlipse
[21:03] <leftyfb> try that
[21:03] <eqlipse> if i put the command in the ~/.profile it works fine, it just asks me for a password
[21:03] <eqlipse> and i not want it to ask me for a password, just start the program
[21:04] <EriC^^> all this will become more in perspective if you run systemd-analyze blame
[21:04] <leftyfb> I wonder if it was asking for your password for sudo. Which means it wants to be run as root/sudo and all this work to run as the $USER is pointless
[21:04] <eqlipse> yes, it does because of the sudo
[21:04] <eqlipse> if i put "
[21:04] <leftyfb> bah
[21:04] <akik> if you use su, it asks for the target user password
[21:04] <leftyfb> akik: yes, we knoe
[21:05] <eqlipse> if i put the line "xinit openpht" in the ~/.profile it throws an error
[21:05] <akik> if you run su as root, it won't ask for any password
[21:05] <leftyfb> akik: yes, we know
[21:05] <akik> good!
[21:05] <akik> maybe eqlipse doesn't know
[21:05] <eqlipse> if i put the line "sudo xinit openpht" it works fine but asks for a password first, after entering the password, openpht starts fine
[21:06] <leftyfb> eqlipse: try (logged in as root) : /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht
[21:06] <EriC^^> eqlipse: what error does it throw when you put it in ~/.profile?
[21:06] <leftyfb> eqlipse: If that doesn't work (logged in as root) : export DISPLAY=:0 ; /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht
[21:06] <eqlipse> ERIC, it doesn't throw an error, it works but asks for a password first
[21:06] <leftyfb> EriC^^: it needs to be run as root
[21:06] <leftyfb> eqlipse: please follow my 2 suggestions above
[21:07] <eqlipse> how do i auto login as root?
[21:07] <leftyfb> eqlipse: sudo su -
[21:07] <eqlipse> in every guide i read they tell me DO NOT AUTOLOGIN AS ROOT
[21:07] <eqlipse> the whole point is it to autlogin from boot and start openpht
[21:07] <EriC^^> eqlipse: dont you run a de?
[21:07] <eqlipse> without any passwords or anything else
[21:07] <leftyfb> eqlipse: openpht requires running with sudo ... that is running it as root
[21:08] <eqlipse> oh sorry lefty, i misunderstood
[21:08] <leftyfb> eqlipse: try (logged in as root) : /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht
[21:08] <leftyfb> eqlipse: If that doesn't work (logged in as root) : export DISPLAY=:0 ; /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht
[21:09] <eqlipse> lefty you want me to type that directly in the terminal? or in the rc.local?
[21:09] <leftyfb> directly ... to test
[21:09] <akik> EriC^^: his explanation tells me he has no x11 running but he starts it with xinit
[21:09] <eqlipse> well that works, id has always works
[21:09] <EriC^^> akik: yeah
[21:09] <leftyfb> eqlipse: as root
[21:09] <eqlipse> just typing xinit openpht starts the program
[21:10] <leftyfb> eqlipse: if it works, then put it into /etc/rc.local
[21:10] <leftyfb>  /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht
[21:10] <eqlipse> but we did that already
[21:10] <eqlipse> that didn't work
[21:11] <EriC^^> leftyfb: it can't possibly work from there
[21:11] <leftyfb> no, we didn't originally put xinit in rc.local. At least I didn't originally tell you to
[21:11] <leftyfb> EriC^^: why is that?
[21:11] <EriC^^> leftyfb: there's no tty even
[21:12] <EriC^^> see systemd-analyze blame , the tty's get started way after rc.local
[21:12] <EriC^^> it has nowhere to put anything...
[21:12] <leftyfb> then maybe a systemd unit
[21:14] <eqlipse> LEFTY!
[21:14] <eqlipse> it works!
[21:14] <eqlipse> dayum
[21:14] <eqlipse> i thought we tried that already
[21:14] <eqlipse> i have added the line "/usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/openpht"
[21:14] <eqlipse> just added that to rc.local and it suddenly works
[21:15] <eqlipse> although EriC says it can't possibly work
[21:15] <eqlipse> Lefty? i hate leaving without a big hug... Thanks so much for your time and patience!
[21:16] <leftyfb> pretty sure xinit starts/creates the tty necessary
[21:16] <leftyfb> that's my guess
[21:16] <eqlipse> maybe it's because i edited the TTY file
[21:17] <leftyfb> you should unedit that if it's not necessary
[21:17] <eqlipse> yes, i will try and find it
[21:18] <eqlipse> i edited with the systemctl cat getty@tty1 | grep Exec
[21:18] <leftyfb> uh
[21:18] <leftyfb> that doesn't edit anything
[21:19] <eqlipse> https://askubuntu.com/questions/771837/how-to-create-ubuntu-server-16-04-autologin
[21:21] <eqlipse> ok, un-edited the getty... rebooting
[21:22] <eqlipse> still works...
[21:22] <eqlipse> Thanks VERY VERY much Leftyfb and EriC as well!
[21:41] <ahmed751995> excuse me , i can't run a java code it tells me Could not find or load main class untitled  , but when i use terminal the code compilation and running work fine but in geany compilation work fine but running not
[21:42] <ahmed751995> iam talking about geany
[21:51] <hwpplayer1> Do we have a channel for geany ?
[21:51] <ducasse> !alis
[21:52] <hwpplayer1> Yes we have #geany
[21:52] <tomreyn> ahmed751995: ^
[21:52] <ahmed751995> hwpplayer1: i asked at #geany but no one answer
[21:53] <hwpplayer1> Then wait for someone to answer your question
[21:53] <ducasse> ahmed751995: you might not get an answer right away, that's not how support on irc works
[21:54] <ahmed751995> ok, thanks anyway
[22:03] <oy> Hi, I did this, I tried doing a cheat sheet, but the background sux https://imgur.com/a/sJdgf ; if someone wants to give it a go and make a better bg, I can share the .xcf file :)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> oy: That's more for #ubuntu-offtopic than here.
[22:39] <EldonMcGuinness> Anyone familiar with ufw? Was hoping someone could shed some light on what :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] does in the /etc/ufw/before.rules file.
[22:56] <ghost-287> hello, how can i close firefox using terminal ?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> ghost-287: Answered in ##linux .
[22:59] <ghost-287> Bashing-om, yeah , ty
[22:59] <ghost-287> Bashing-om, you are everywhere XD
[22:59] <Bashing-om> ghost-287: :)
[23:33] <coldasfucc> Does anyone know how to increase scrolling speed on the trackpad? KDE 17.04