[00:10] <SummerRain> My MYSQL on ubuntu stop working after the OS restart
[00:10] <SummerRain> mysql irc channel is dead. Help :(
[00:11] <blkadder> Define "stop working"
[00:11] <blkadder> Can you start it manually?
[00:11] <SummerRain> It wont allow me to start manually
[00:11] <SummerRain> @blkadder i have a screenshot, how can i send you ?
[00:12] <blkadder> Put it on an image upload site and I will look.
[00:12] <blkadder> Or pastebin, etc.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | SummerRain
[00:12] <blkadder> Thanks Jordan_U I forgot what the preferred mechanism was here.
[00:13] <SummerRain> @bkladder https://imgur.com/a/1TKnt
[00:15] <blkadder> You'd need to look at the error logs
[00:15] <SummerRain> @blkadder How to
[00:15] <blkadder> Take a look under /var/log/mysql
[00:17] <SummerRain> Looking into it
[00:17] <SummerRain> Theres nothing there :(
[00:18] <SummerRain> Nothing with mysql anyway*
[00:18] <blkadder> You might try /var/log/error.log
[00:18] <blkadder> Not certain where it is logging to...
[00:18] <RoDiMuS-X> try sudo journalctl -u mysql
[00:19] <blkadder> Or that. :-)
[00:21] <SummerRain> @bkladder https://imgur.com/a/7dlAc
[00:21] <SummerRain> @blkadder
[00:22] <blkadder> That's not exactly helpful, is it? :-)
[00:23] <bmsr> rr
[00:23] <SummerRain> :(
[00:23] <SummerRain> What should I do ? :(
[00:23] <RoDiMuS-X> @SummerRain try mysql commandline
[00:24] <blkadder> try running it manually
[00:24] <blkadder> mysqld start
[00:24] <SummerRain> How so ?
[00:24] <RoDiMuS-X> mysqld
[00:25] <RoDiMuS-X> also you should have an error log here, /var/log/mysql.err
[00:26] <RoDiMuS-X> this is identical to your issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/924347/mysql-5-7-crashes-on-ubuntu-16-04-no-errors
[00:27] <SummerRain> No error log and the command "mysqld start" https://imgur.com/a/KPFCY
[00:27] <SummerRain> @blkadder
[00:27] <blkadder> That's better.
[00:27] <blkadder> Or not...
[00:28] <RoDiMuS-X> Check your permissions of /var/lib/mysql
[00:28] <blkadder> ls -al /var/lib/mysql
[00:28] <blkadder> You need to run it as a user with permissions to it...
[00:28] <RoDiMuS-X> and make sure you have diskspace, $ df -H
[00:29] <RoDiMuS-X> @SummerRain you have to run mysqld as root, so "sudo mysqld start" that is why you had the permission issue
[00:32] <SummerRain> @RoDiMus-X blkadder https://imgur.com/a/rbTT8
[00:32] <SummerRain> @RoDiMus-X i did with Sudo tbh.
[00:32] <SummerRain> What should I do ? :(
[00:33] <SummerRain> And yes, i have 450 gb left (free space)
[00:33] <RoDiMuS-X> @SummerRain, not sudo ls, you need to do "sudo mysqld start"
[00:33] <SummerRain> Yes i did.
[00:33] <SummerRain> Same error.
[00:34] <RoDiMuS-X> No your image https://imgur.com/a/KPFCY/ has no sudo
[00:34] <SummerRain> Will try again
[00:34] <SummerRain> Thanks :0
[00:34] <blkadder> SummerRain, Were you able to locate error logs?
[00:35] <RoDiMuS-X> so debian-5.7.flag has root permissions, I would "sudo chown mysql:mysql debian-5.7.flag"
[00:35] <SummerRain> @blkadder no, i will reinstall with sudo.
[00:35] <blkadder> Reinstall?
[00:50] <Klive> Hey folks, how would I go about creating a windows install media from an ubuntu live disc session?
[00:50] <Klive> I intend for the install media to be a USB drive
[00:50] <Klive> If necessary I can make the ubuntu install and then work from there
[00:50] <Klive> Ubuntu is 14.04(sorry that it's a bit dated. It's all I have to work with right now)
[00:56] <jje> cccccceefrrndelturerbgubfbenfuvndenlifjdhkft
[00:56] <jje> sorry
[03:42] <leotreasure> hello, I need some help please to get ubuntu software working again
[03:42] <leotreasure> i'm getting this error: snapd returned status code 400: Bad Request
[03:43] <leotreasure> i've tried this answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/956289/snapd-return-status-code-400-bad-request
[03:44] <leotreasure> I had this problem before when my kernel changed because of an amd driver but it went away last time I changed back to 4.10.0-35-generic, now changing back didn't solve it
[03:46] <leotreasure> oh i just realised some software packages do install fine
[03:50] <leotreasure> I just changed mirror to main server - affected packages I'm trying to install are Atom and Brackets from the Editor's picks
[04:56] <HiddneTundra> Evening everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble with making a bootable windows install USB. I'm using unetbootin on ubuntu 14.04 with a win 7 ISO from MS's servers
[04:56] <HiddneTundra> Well never mind, I'm apparently too impatient
[04:58] <Jordan_U> !winusb | HiddneTundra (Too impatient indeed)
[05:12] <m4dh4tt4> gentlemen
[05:13] <m4dh4tt4> ideas on disabling laptop hdd led, /sys/class/leds/phy0-led <- found that, askubuntu has 1 page, tried it, nothing,
[05:14] <m4dh4tt4> couldnt find a binary, couldnt seem to edit any of those text files except for one and i flipped the boolean, nada, probably doing it wrong lol
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> i finished a photorec scan for the whole HD, anyone knows a program that would grab all pictures from all the folders?
[05:26] <m4dh4tt4> it should have already
[05:27] <m4dh4tt4> did you not pic a directory to recover to?
[05:27] <m4dh4tt4> also you need to make sure you selected the filetypes you wanted recovered(jpg png etc)
[05:28] <m4dh4tt4> you should see a buncha recup_dir1,2,3 depending on how many files
[05:28] <m4dh4tt4> oh i see youre just looking to move them sigh
[05:28] <m4dh4tt4> sec
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: yeah i got like 20 recup_dirs i want to find something to grab only the pics out of it
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: sorting 20 folders with copy paste will take a while
[05:32] <m4dh4tt4> for file in `find .|egrep -i 'jpg|jpeg|png'`; do  mv --backup=existing --suffix=_1 "$file" allpics;done
[05:32] <m4dh4tt4> but first, mkdir allpics
[05:32] <m4dh4tt4> awh crap maybe make that a folder back so it doesnt loop
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:33] <m4dh4tt4> and the mv --backup=existing suffix crap is so it doesnt overwrite if theres a name conflict
[05:34] <m4dh4tt4> and if u want a script to find all the duplicates and weed them out let me know
[05:35] <m4dh4tt4> its written so that it never deletes anything, moves all dupes into a folder called dupes and produces md5checksum logs n such
[05:36] <m4dh4tt4> and if you want a dry test run, /\ add the word echo before mv and it will simply show you what it would run
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: im scanning with shotwell, but import takes long, if that doesnt work ill try your method
[05:37] <m4dh4tt4> ugh i hated shotwell but thats just me, i tried like 10 apps for photos
[05:38] <m4dh4tt4> best one was geeqie for slideshows and sorting, especially if its hot chicks cuz then you can mirror/reverse/flip a pic and have the ladies in stereo haha
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info geeqie
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> nice lemme try that m4dh4tt4
[05:39] <m4dh4tt4> still works best if theyre all in 1 folder though
[05:40] <m4dh4tt4> you can do it with file viewer too possibly and just search jpg etc , but i find that thing goes for a lunch break if youre over 1000 files, especially ones that like to thumbnail
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> shotwell still prepares import lol
[05:41] <m4dh4tt4> cd (photorecdir) ; mkdir ../allpics; for file in `find .|egrep -i 'jpg|jpeg|png'`; do  mv --backup=existing --suffix=_1 "$file" ../allpics;done
[05:42] <m4dh4tt4> if u did a large hdd photorecs gonna be there forever
[05:42] <m4dh4tt4> or any app really
[05:42] <m4dh4tt4> depending on what youre looking for it truly helps to delete images that dont meet a certain size
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: its a 500gig HD, but it recovered like 300 jpges
[05:43] <m4dh4tt4> so if looking for pics from a cam, then like, safe to delete or at least move the ones under 20k, personally i jump it up to 40k-60k saves a lot of time
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: the reason i always do all filetypes, is because other import stuff can showup aswell
[05:43] <m4dh4tt4> wtf only 300 jpgs?
[05:43] <m4dh4tt4> how old was the drive? a week?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: yeah its a smaller user with laptop for banking/web
[05:44] <m4dh4tt4> even then , doesnt the OS have more jpgs then that
[05:45] <m4dh4tt4> just make sure ure not missing any filetypes and that you scanned it with the right filesystem selected i guess
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: yeah i scanned properly
[05:45] <m4dh4tt4> and NEVER recover to save drive youre scanning
[05:45] <m4dh4tt4> i did this friends drive i got like 40k images it was disastrous, found 1 nudie of his chick and she was nasty in it, what a waste
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: i always scan whole HD, photorec saved me alot of data
[05:47] <m4dh4tt4> i could be wrong on this here but ive sometimes had better results with a partition scan
[05:48] <m4dh4tt4> i dono i went overkill on this one hdd cuz the stuff meant a lot, probably ran it 30 different ways its a little blurry now
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: never had issues myself here
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> m4dh4tt4: anyway photorec halfway import now :p
[05:48] <m4dh4tt4> wasnt really having issues , its more about making sure i got every single pic possible
[05:48] <m4dh4tt4> how the hell is it taking an hour to import 300 jpgs
[05:48] <m4dh4tt4> you running a tandy 1000? pentium 1? or possibly need to delete that software haha
[05:49] <Jordan_U> m4dh4tt4: Your stories about finding nude images of a woman that presumably she had not given you permission to view, and you appraisal of said woman/image do not belong in this channel.
[05:49] <m4dh4tt4> i was recovering all of his stuff
[05:51] <m4dh4tt4> and u know what, i never really belong here anyways, always getting shit on for helping others , just took a 2 month break 15 mins in, sittin here providing WAY more help than asked for,
[05:51] <m4dh4tt4> good job mod
[05:51] <m4dh4tt4> keep the channel dead
[05:51] <m4dh4tt4> fk this place
[05:51] <m4dh4tt4> ban plz
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> omg that resulted fast
[06:39] <SourMilk> Good job mods, last time i was helping people with nvidia drivers, everytime i open my mouth you somehow find a keyboard, not to solve t he issue of course, but to comment on how im trying to help solve. So i got slapped for recommending what solved months of issues with n vidia graphix(solution actually came from a mod so A+ on this one). So I quote the bossy mod, recommend the default driver/command/canned response-that-he-writes
[06:39] <SourMilk> and smile as i watch 3 people QQ cuz they no longer have a gui. *cricket, mods nowh ere to be found* I leave for 2 months cuz helping people and having to deal with your small penis issues is tiresome. I came back cuz i had a quick Q but ended up helping someone.
[06:39] <SourMilk> This time its 2:00am and were talkin photo recovery and i mention (one message out of 15, the other 14, me being selfless, drop what im  doing to help someone else) being disappointed in a jpg with Newditee and buddy who was incapacitated when people actually needed help, all of a sudden , becomes defender of the universe , tells me off, actin like there are children in ubuntu IRC whos eyes cannot unsee th e pure evil that occured.
[06:39] <SourMilk>  When i grow up. I want to be an IRC moderator of a channel thats quiet, and when people speak, ill make sure to pick apart their dialogue to keep the non-existent children safe from the channel that is now dead. Good job Faksticks. Your dick is still small tho mmkay. Make sure to get all the swears out, save your bandwidth though don't waste it answering questions, there's much shooshing to be done. Go be a librarian. #Mods4Egos #
[07:13] <pennTeller> Hi guys, I have an ip cam that has an option to ftp photos into my server.. sadly it is only ftp. Is there anything at all I can do to secure this so that is not as hackable and if it is to mitigate the possibility of total server takeover?
[07:16] <ducasse> pennTeller: run the ftp server in a container?
[07:19] <pennTeller> ducasse, Thanks, any suggestion on the best way to do this on ubuntu 14.04?
[07:20] <ducasse> trusty hasn't got lxd, so i'd go with lxc. quite easy to set up and get going with, but you will need to do some reading
[07:21] <ducasse> or look if there is a ppa with lxd, as lxc is being deprecated
[07:24] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Is the camera on the same network as the server? If so, firewall it so that it can only access resources on the LAN, not on the internet.
[07:31] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[07:31] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.14.0-041400rc1-generic x86_64 bits: 64
[07:31] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Gnome 3.26.0
[07:31] <Dreaman>            Distro: Ubuntu Artful Aardvark (development branch)
[07:31] <Dreaman> Machine:   Device: laptop System: Acer product: Aspire F5-573G v: V1.04 serial: N/A
[07:31] <Dreaman> :)
[07:32] <ducasse> Dreaman: please don't do that. if you're asked to provide specs, put them in a pastebin.
[07:33] <Dreaman> ok
[07:35] <pennTeller> ducasse, thanks man, my connection dropped sorry
[07:35] <pennTeller> ducasse, I will look into that
[07:35] <pennTeller> Jordan_U, the camera sadly is not on the network
[07:40] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Just based on things like https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/ I would personally not want any ip camera actually connecting to the internet, let alone one where we know the security bar starts at "Can't even be bothered to use sftp instead of a completely plain text protocol most people abandoned decades ago".
[07:41] <pennTeller> Believe me I agree! But my boss just doesn't want to get it.
[07:41] <pennTeller> I've explained 10 times the stupidity of this method
[07:41] <pennTeller> of doing things
[07:43] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Does the camera connect to a "cloud" service, or does it communicate with the server directly?
[07:44] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25605514/  ducasse  :)
[07:44] <pennTeller> Jordan_U, the camera does come with a cloud service that allows you to see it from anywhere. However motion detection system of the camera FTP's photos into a given server in the event of motion. It's either FTP or email and i've done email before it's a pretty crazy setup tp get that working
[07:46] <ducasse> Dreaman: it's still not very interesting unless you have a question that goes along with it
[07:47] <Dreaman> ok
[07:47] <Dreaman> bay
[07:50] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Can you only allow ftp traffic between the ip camera and that particular server's ip? Even if you can, I still don't like it.
[07:51] <pennTeller> Jordan_U, I can't purely allow ftp traffic since the guy wants to see the picture that the camera sends to the serve on the server using apache
[07:51] <pennTeller> Jordan_U, I know its awful
[07:51] <pennTeller> stupid Tp-link Nc220 cam
[07:51] <pennTeller> I almost want to hack it and enable ssh somehow
[07:53] <Ben64> you'd have to stick something in between it to catch ftp and output something sane
[07:53] <ducasse> can you set up a tunnel/vpn?
[07:56] <pennTeller> Ben64, yes
[07:56] <pennTeller> ducasse, hmm that is a good idea...
[07:57] <pennTeller> though I have some years of linux experience I have never setup a vpn apart from the simple ones on the ubuntu gui
[07:58] <pennTeller> I am fairly confident I can do it
[07:59] <dekatch> hi, how much disk space do i need for an ubuntu install?
[08:00] <dekatch> want to install it ontop of my windows and therefore i am asking how much space i need to free up from my one partition that i currently have
[08:00] <Ben64> depends how much you want to do with it
[08:00] <dekatch> nothing much, just browsing, listening to music
[08:01] <dekatch> got my music on a external
[08:01] <Ben64> i think they say minimum is 6GB or something
[08:01] <Ben64> i could be wrong
[08:01] <dekatch> so with 10GB i should be fine then
[08:01] <dekatch> ?
[08:01] <Ben64> yeah
[08:02] <dekatch> ok thanks, thats ok
[08:02] <ducasse> pennTeller: you can probably just use ssh, plenty of examples online
[08:04] <pennTeller> ducasse, Let me ask you man, lets say the camera is at my home.
[08:04] <pennTeller> Would I enable vpn access to my router? or to the camera?
[08:05] <pennTeller> like am I sshing into the router to be on the local network and thus access the camera?
[08:05] <dekatch> what should i install ? my focus is on driver availability. want my 5.1 audio to work and my nvidia graphics card if possible. is one of them better or worse ? 16.04.3 lts or 17.04
[08:05] <pennTeller> or am I sshing into the camera? (the camera doesn't have ssh)
[08:06] <ducasse> many routers have at least some vpn functionality built in, then you initiate the connection from the other side to link the two networks
[08:06] <Ben64> dekatch: i'd do 16.04 for the long term support, depending on your video card you might need to get a PPA to get a newer driver though
[08:07] <dekatch> Ben64, PPA?
[08:07] <Ben64> !PPA
[08:07] <Ben64> dekatch: what video card is it btw
[08:07] <dekatch> well thanks
[08:07] <dekatch> !PPA
[08:07] <dekatch> ok, doesnt work for me :)
[08:08] <Ben64> it would, but the bot just said what it is :D
[08:08] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/8N9u3   ducasse  4k
[08:08] <Dreaman> :)
[08:08] <dekatch> Ben64, nvidia 550ti
[08:08] <ducasse> Dreaman: do you have a question?
[08:08] <Ben64> dekatch: oh, you'll be fine
[08:09] <Dreaman> no work :)
[08:09] <dekatch> sounds good
[08:09] <Ben64> it's only the very newest ones that aren't supported by default, like 1080ti
[08:09] <dekatch> because its an older model i assume
[08:09] <dekatch> yea k
[08:10] <ducasse> !doesntwork > Dreaman
[08:10] <Dreaman> ok
[08:12] <dekatch> well, thanks so far Ben64 . now i am on my way figuring out how to set it all up so ill end up with windows 10 as default bootloader ;P i guess i can achieve it with easyBCD. will have to check tho
[08:14] <pennTeller> ducasse, thanks man I will give it a shot and report back
[08:15] <ducasse> pennTeller: look at something like this, maybe - http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/238/ssh-reverse-tunneling/
[08:16] <ducasse> pennTeller: you need to figure out what works best for you, look what your router supports etc
[08:21] <pennTeller> ducasse, I will. I thank you man.
[08:22] <Inferno_geek> Is there a way to get Epson L850 Series printing normal pages, not the empty ones?
[08:23] <ducasse> pennTeller: np, you might want to ask ##networking what the best approach for your setup is, they can probably give much better advice there than me
[08:23] <pennTeller> ducasse, oh cool! I didn't know about that channel. Joining right now
[08:24] <ducasse> Inferno_geek: for many epson printers you need to download their drivers
[08:29] <ass_hole> marienz is a weiner wagger
[08:30] <Raxz> I'm glad to know that a literal ass_hole is an ubuntu user, it's accurate representation for the rest of us
[08:30] <bazhang> ass_hole, wrong channel, stop now
[08:30] <ass_hole> bazhang: right channel, start now
[08:30] <bazhang> Raxz, thats not helping
[08:30] <ass_hole> bazhang, that's not helping
[08:30] <ass_hole> note the apostrophe
[08:31] <ass_hole> that's not helping
[08:31] <Inferno_geek> I have tried driver "epson-escpr", but with no luck.
[08:32] <bazhang> Inferno_geek, check the linuxprinting.org database
[08:32] <bazhang> thats the very first step
[08:50] <bhavesh> Hi
[08:50] <bhavesh> Can I ask Kubuntu questions here or is there a separate challel for that?
[08:51] <ducasse> if they're specific to kubuntu try #kubuntu, otherwise just ask here
[08:51] <bhavesh> ok
[08:58] <dah85> Inferno_geek, is there an option for paper type 'standard-vivid' or similar? if so, try that. I had a similar-sounding issue with my epson wf3640
[08:58] <dah85> I've tried googling but with limited success because I'm not sure what terms to search for, but what I would like to do is convert an mp3 streaming radio station (128kbit) down to 56kbit and restream that, so that it can be streamed on a low bitrate connection.  Is this possible?
[09:01] <Ben64> yes it's possible
[09:27] <dah85> Ben64, what would be the best way to acheive such a setup?
[09:28] <Ben64> find out how to stream something, then use the other stream as input, either downloading it and re-stream or have a buffer
[09:28] <dah85> that makes sense
[10:06] <SunOS> did all distro x64 boot by UEFI
[10:36] <Sterist> hellos, I'm having some major issues trying to create a boot disc, I've created a .img of a windows 7 RECOVERY partition from a dual boot harddrive with major issues. long story short, nothing, not even bootable discs or USB can boot while the harddrive is in the PC.
[10:37] <Sterist> Ubuntu can recover data from it using testdisk, and Windows (on diff pc) will not recognize it under any circumstances
[10:40] <Sterist> --when connected via HDD dock, of course. does anyone know of a good burning software for Ubuntu that can or might be able to create a bootable windows recovery disc set from this image?
[11:25] <skrech> hey, guys, I need to apply an ALSA patch and I'm wondering do I need to recompile the whole kernel or I can recompile just the ALSA part?
[11:39] <alexas> how to aggresively set strict dns ip in the system, which file to configure?
[11:43] <brainwash> skrech: which patch is that?
[11:45] <skrech> brainwash: I've bought a new 4 channel mixer which is supposed to be class-compliant but it's not working and I found an ALSA quirk from zamaudio (the guy is making audio effects plugins for Ardour) which should correct the problem.
[11:46] <newbi420> anyone here?
[11:46] <brainwash> alexas: maybe this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128220/how-do-i-set-my-dns-when-resolv-conf-is-being-overwritten
[11:46] <tesla_> newbi420, ??
[11:46] <brainwash> skrech: any link?
[11:47] <skrech> from this thread: https://community.ardour.org/node/13646
[11:47] <skrech> the link to the quirk is: http://pastebin.com/raw/mpLUK01g
[11:48] <newbi420> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu for the first time and every time i turn my computer on and try to install from my external hard drive, it just goes to this blank gray screen with the underscore cursor
[11:48] <newbi420> what should i do?
[11:49] <newbi420> i also have the option of using a toaster and my mac to somehow just install it directly on to the hard drive
[11:50] <tomreyn> !md5 | newbi420
[11:50] <brainwash> skrech: do you know where to add this snippet?
[11:51] <skrech> brainwash: yes
[11:51] <brainwash> skrech: well, you will have to do a whole kernel build I'd think
[11:51] <newbi420> thank you
[11:51] <skrech> brainwash: is there a good tutorial which I could follow to not messup this badly?
[11:52] <skrech> brainwash: never recompiled before... though have fair experience in programming/building c/c++ apps.
[11:57] <brainwash> skrech: there seem to be various tutorials
[11:58] <brainwash> skrech: probably a question for #ubuntu-kernel
[11:59] <skrech> brainwash: thx, man, will join right now
[13:05] <lseactuary> is setting up a ubtuntu vm free?
[13:05] <tesla_> lseactuary, what do you mean
[13:05] <lseactuary> i am trying to install pyspark using this: https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2016/09/comprehensive-introduction-to-apache-spark-rdds-dataframes-using-pyspark/
[13:06] <lseactuary> i cant seem to get it to work on my mac hence trying to figure out how to set up a VM in ubuntu and then do it in there
[13:06] <tesla_> where did you get the idea that using ubuntu costs money?
[13:06] <tesla_> it doesnt by the way you can use it whenever and for whatever with no cost
[13:06] <lseactuary> i never used it before
[13:07] <tesla_> the download page may ask for a donation but you dont need to
[13:07] <lseactuary> ah
[13:07] <lseactuary> so i can just use this: https://www.virtualbox.org/
[13:07] <lseactuary> ?
[13:07] <tesla_> yes
[13:07] <tesla_> i use it myself
[13:07] <lseactuary> oki
[13:07] <lseactuary> i will try now
[13:26] <mamba_>  hello guys. i am having some problems with my samba hdd on openwrt. When i try to run fsck tool it runs all steps. at the end of pass 5 it return "Error writing file system info: Input/output error". the tool end with "/dev/sdc6: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****". is there anything to fix my hdd or shuld i copy data util it works. the disk works but crashes when accesing some files
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> mamba_  is that ubuntu?
[13:47] <wiak> anyone know how long file -b command is gonna take? doing a kernel compile
[13:47] <mamba_> MonkeyDust. i do fsck with ubuntu. its ext4 fs
[13:47] <Krennic> win 18
[13:49] <mamba_> i am running now fsck with -c option. its runing for 1 hour.
[13:49] <mamba_> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test):   0.00% done, 0:00 elapsed. (0/0/0 err  2.08% done, 1:04:27 elapsed. (20/0/0 errors)
[13:49] <mamba_> 2.08% its stuck for a whine but errors keep growing. is that ok
[14:03] <eddd> Hey, any xubuntu users running on thinkpad x270? Any opinions on the hardware compatibility? Does the WWAN modem work of the box? How about the multi monitor setup?
[14:05] <wiak> eddd xubuntu uses ubuntu as base, so which ever ubuntu version and kernel
[14:08] <respawn1> hello everyone. Does anyone know of a good way of backing up my android device on ubuntu? (the screen is broken so can't mtpfs it)
[14:13] <tomreyn> respawn1: with a broken screen things get difficult, and android is not great at backup in general. your best bet is probably adb. note that there is also ##android around here, IIRC, none of this is unbuntu specific.
[14:14] <respawn1> tomreyn: I wanted to know if there was software on ubuntu that could help. I am already on #android asking the other part of the equation. Thank you for the info on adb
[14:16] <tomreyn> respawn1: welcome, good luck.
[14:20] <LimeT> hi
[14:20] <LimeT> I caused a mess, please help me!
[14:20] <LimeT> a kernel update went wrong
[14:20] <LimeT> https://dpaste.de/7niq/raw
[14:22] <eddd> wiak: ok, let me rephrase,s/xubuntu/ubuntu/g
[14:30] <LogicalDash> I have the 8bitdo FC30 game controller. It mostly works with Ubuntu 17.04 over USB but appears to have eight axes when there are really only six (2 analogs + d-pad). The extra two get maxed out when I press left or right on the d-pad respectively, which is pretty useless behavior since there's an axis for left *and* right, and it confuses games as to which is the right stick's vertical axis. How do I get rid of the redundant ax
[14:35] <LogicalDash> I've reordered the axes in jscal but this doesn't seem to affect Unity games, which I think indicates that this is a kernel bug...?
[14:53] <danes> hello, Im struggling to install a driver for wifi adapter mt7610 (ID 0e8d:7610 MediaTek Inc). Apparently it is not native in ubuntu > 16 and I tried like 5 different versions of the driver but when compiling I get this error: https://pastebin.com/QvNtvTaz      Anyone knows how to fix this issue or knows of a good working tutorial?
[15:01] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I resize LVM with LUKS partition without losing data?
[15:03] <ibouvousaime> hello
[15:04] <ibouvousaime> I'm having a wierd issue today
[15:04] <ibouvousaime> Im unable to open any kind of image
[15:04] <ibouvousaime> and also
[15:04] <ibouvousaime> lots of program dont have icons anymore
[15:04] <ibouvousaime> I checked the update history
[15:05] <oaulakh> how to mount windows 10 partition in ubuntu
[15:05] <ibouvousaime> and I see there have been an "unattended upgrade" of https://gist.github.com/ibouvousaime/6e6238940f85177d7e2c0f7ae2564f43
[15:05] <ibouvousaime> Can someone help me with this issue please?
[15:06] <ibouvousaime> Im running ubuntu 16.04 atm
[15:06] <ibouvousaime> currently on i3
[15:12] <wiak> can someone point me in the right direction on how i can patch my kernel source with https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2016-November/122631.html
[15:12] <wiak> ?
[15:17] <qswz> do you guys map cap_lock key to something more useful?
[15:22] <kalcso> Why can't I switch languages by keyboard shortkeys in ubuntu(17.04), it's ok by clicking?
[15:24] <ioria> kalcso, Super + space not working ?
[15:24] <qswz> super is Fn?
[15:25] <ioria> kalcso, Super = Win key
[15:25] <qswz> ah ok
[15:25] <kalcso>  It's left shift + left alt.
[15:25] <ioria> not by default
[15:25] <kalcso> And it's ok in gnome or even in budgie.
[15:26] <kalcso> I know.
[15:26] <ioria> kalcso, check systemsettings ->  keyboard  -> shortcuts -> typing
[15:27] <kalcso> Both switch to next and previous source are defined.
[15:27] <ioria> kalcso, as what ?
[15:27] <kalcso> (As I said it's ok in gnome)
[15:28] <kalcso> left shift + l alt
[15:28] <ioria> kalcso, should be Super + Space
[15:29] <kalcso> Right super key or left one?
[15:29] <ioria> kalcso, idk, left is good for me
[15:30] <ioria> kalcso, yeah, bith
[15:30] <kalcso>     I did, it doesn't work.
[15:30] <ioria> }both
[15:32] <kalcso> I did, not works.
[15:33] <ioria> kalcso,  can you change it from  its panel icon ?
[15:34] <kalcso> Yes I can
[15:36] <ioria> kalcso,  dash is opening if you press the Super key ?
[15:36] <kalcso> Not for super+space.
[15:37] <ioria> kalcso,  ok, but dash is opening if you press the Super key ?
[15:37] <kalcso> Yes
[15:39] <ioria> kalcso,  ok, go in Text Entry Setting from the panel icon
[15:39] <kalcso> ok
[15:40] <Matsu> Must-have programs on programming-laptop running ubuntu 16.04, Go!
[15:40] <tesla_> ones you want to use
[15:41] <tesla_> dont install things for the sake of it just use what you need to
[15:41] <Matsu> Well what are some good IDE's for Ubuntu?
[15:41] <Matsu> Was using VS in windows
[15:41] <tesla_> vim
[15:42] <Matsu> isn't vim a text editor
[15:42] <kalcso> Then what should I do?
[15:42] <xet7> Matsu: https://code.visualstudio.com/
[15:42] <tesla_> use vim to type text and then compile it in gcc
[15:42] <dreamcat4> Matsu: you should know what text editor you prefer, there are many to choose from
[15:43] <ioria> kalcso,  Switch to the next source ... how is set ?
[15:43] <kalcso> Not it is "Shift L"
[15:44] <kalcso> Previous source is "Alt L".
[15:44] <ioria> kalcso,  so you have not changed it
[15:45] <kalcso> I did, it was super+space as you said.
[15:45] <kalcso> It didn't works too.
[15:46] <kalcso> And It is ok in budgie desktop, it was in unity too, but now ...
[15:48] <ioria> kalcso,  you should see in text entry settings the same value you set in keyboard -> typing
[15:49] <kalcso> Yes, it is.
[15:50] <ioria> kalcso,  no it isn't if you still see Shift L" Alt L"
[15:52] <kalcso> It is not the matter, cause when I change short key into super+space from panel icon, change will be appear in keyboard settings.
[15:54] <ioria> kalcso,  btw it's not mandatory use Win+Space, you can use what you want
[15:55] <kalcso> Right
[15:55] <kalcso> It is clear
[15:55] <ioria> kalcso,  the only condition is that the come it's not already in use
[15:55] <ioria> *comb
[15:55] <mathys> is it adviceble using zfs with ubuntu 17?
[16:32] <ducasse> mathys: what do you mean by 'advisable'? it's supported, yes, but not for the root fs.
[16:32] <mathys> and for what is supported?
[16:33] <ducasse> storage
[17:22] <nullbytes> When I try to update the kernel, it says there are unmet dependencies. But when I try to fix the dependencies with apt --fix-broken install, it says it requires a newer kernel.
[17:26] <Bashing-om> nullbytes: Before addressing the kernwls. what caused this situation ? Did you run out of operational head room ? Padtebin back ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See what we have to work with .
[17:26] <dystant> I want to modify the samba service startup file. Should I directly edit the file: /lib/systemd/system/smbd.service or is it going to break on update?
[17:38] <nullbytes> Bashing-om: I updated from 12.04 to 17.10
[17:50] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | nullbytes
[17:58] <Seveas> nullbytes: an upgrade like that is utterly unsupported :)
[17:59] <Seveas> nullbytes: that said, can you throw the output of the apt --fix-broken install command at a pastebin as well?
[18:02] <nullbytes> Seveas: https://pastebin.com/UBfPP2b2
[18:09] <trasckore> hi
[18:10] <trasckore> i have a problem
[18:10] <trasckore> sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi uboot-mkimage
[18:11] <ducasse> trasckore: which release is this?
[18:14] <Seveas> nullbytes: ooh, that's moderately annoying. A pre-install script failure with no output :(
[18:16] <Seveas> nullbytes: can you do a sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6:i386 -- maybe it'll say more. If not, try dpkg --configure libc6
[18:20] <ioria> yeah ; libc6:i386 (2.24-12ubuntu1) is superseded
[18:20] <nullbytes> Seveas: https://pastebin.com/4xSjyJNC
[18:26] <trasckore> ducasse debian 9
[18:26] <Seveas> trasckore: try #debian
[18:26] <ducasse> trasckore: ok, so ask in #debian
[18:26] <trasckore> somebody told me that debian and ubuntu uses the same package manager
[18:26] <trasckore> is false?
[18:27] <trasckore> if yes, sorry
[18:27] <ducasse> trasckore: that's true, but so what?
[18:27] <ducasse> trasckore: they're different distros
[18:27] <trasckore> so, different packages?
[18:28] <ducasse> ubuntu is based on debian, but they're not identical
[18:28] <Seveas> nullbytes: well, that's not very helpful of apt either :/ Can you edit line 2 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6:amd64.preinst and change 'set -e' to 'set -ex' -- then retry apt-get --fix-broken install
[18:28] <BluesKaj> trasckore, and different supporft chats, join #debian
[18:28] <trasckore> ducasse, well, so, i'm sorry for the off-topic question :(
[18:30] <BluesKaj> trasckore, nothing to be sorry about, just ask it in #debian
[18:45] <fiter> can anyone tell which ubuntu version is this gnu grub version 2.02 beta2-36 ubuntu 3.7?
[18:48] <EriC^^> !info grub2 xenial
[18:48] <EriC^^> !info grub2 trusty
[18:50] <EriC^^> fiter: what's your actual problem?
[18:51] <fiter> EriC^^: I have got initramfs while loading ubuntu
[18:51] <EriC^^> fiter: any message before it?
[18:51] <fiter> I tried fsck /dev/sda but failed
[18:52] <math-alpha> Hi all
[18:52] <fiter> when I try to run ubuntu then a new terminal named initramfs starts
[18:52] <math-alpha> I have an issue with my Ubuntu 14
[18:53] <math-alpha> It doesn't recognize mobile broadband
[18:53] <math-alpha> I use a USB in which I insert my sim card
[18:54] <ioria> fiter, why are you asking about 3.7 version ?
[18:54] <EriC^^> fiter: are you sure you have a filesystem failure?
[18:55] <fiter> ioria:  I wanted to use this solution to reboot using a live usb
[18:55] <fiter> EriC^^: yes but how can I assure you?
[18:55] <acer> i notice that ubuntu is so much faster on startup and far more fluid and responsive compared to windows
[18:56] <acer> i have both win 10 and ubuntu 16.04 lts on dual boot on my laptop
[18:56] <ioria> fiter, are you on xenial ? if so,  you should have 3.12 ...
[18:56] <acer> is there a reason for the huge difference? win 10 seems to use close to 100% disk at most times
[18:57] <fiter> ioria:  so I want to know my exact ubuntu version so that I make the live usb of the same one
[18:58] <fiter> ioria:  if its 3.12 then which ubuntu version it would be ?
[18:58] <ducasse> fiter: what solution requires using grub 3.7?
[18:58] <ioria> fiter, depends on your ubuntu version ... are you ion xenial or what ?
[19:01] <EriC^^> fiter: you dont need the exact version
[19:01] <EriC^^> fiter: hold shift to get grub and remove quiet splash in the kernel line and put debug ignore_loglevel
[19:01] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | see here
[19:04] <fiter> ducasse:  so that I may use it as live usb to repair my system partition
[19:07] <ducasse> fiter: that shouldn't require a specific grub version
[19:07] <fiter> ducasse: ok, so it can be done with any version ?
[19:08] <EriC^^> yes all you need is a live usb of the same architecture 32 or 64bit
[19:13] <ducasse> fiter: it's not necessarily grub that is broken, try running fsck on the actual filesystem first
[19:13] <ducasse> fiter: /dev/sda is a full device, not a partition
[19:14] <fiter> ducasse:  i used it but its not working for me
[19:14] <ioria> i'am still wondering why he asked about an old grub version ...
[19:15] <ducasse> fiter: sounded like you used it wrong from what you said above
[19:16] <ducasse> fiter: and don't you know which ubuntu version you have installed?
[19:16] <fiter> I did not remember exactly but i think it was 14.04
[19:18] <fiter> ducasse:  how should i use fsck ?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> filter to find your version: lsb_release -a
[19:21] <ioria> fiter, if you ask me, you boot a livecd , mount your / partition, chroot, and send us some reliable infos .
[19:22] <BluesKaj> oh, not able to boot in ,...nevermind
[19:23] <ducasse> fiter: run it on the partition that contains your root filesystem, which is something like /dev/sda1 - not /dev/sda
[19:25] <fiter> ducasse: I have checked it by giving /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2, /dev/sda3, /dev/sda0 but all failed
[19:26] <ducasse> fiter: do what ioria said
[19:27] <fiter> ducasse: ok i will do it tomorrow now going to sleep thanks
[19:49] <akik> can somebody on a dual boot ubuntu/win10 computer turn fast startup back on in win10 and then try mounting the partition in ubuntu?
[19:50] <akik> seems to be that it can be re-enabled
[19:53] <kalcso> Hey, I can't switch between two languages in ubuntu 17.04 (unity) by pressing keyboard shortkeys (which are defined in keyboard setting),* it is ok in gnome or budgie desktop.
[20:00] <bipesh> am I not using the rolldice application, or this a bug?
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> kalcso  workaround, in a terminal, type    setxkb [your langauage code]
[20:00] <bipesh> $ rolldice --separate 2d6
[20:00] <bipesh> Roll #1: (2 6) = 8
[20:00] <bipesh> (end)
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> !info rolldice
[20:03] <bipesh> from reading the --separate option in the manpage, I would have expected a line for each roll and then a sum
[20:03] <kalcso> MonkeyDust, Is it for Xfce4?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> akik: Note that fastboot is only used when you shutdown then boot again. If you select "reboot" from Windows it will do a full shutdown. Might that be what your tests are showing?
[20:06] <kalcso> I can switch by language icon that exist in panel.
[20:09] <akik> Jordan_U: i'll test shutdown and cold boot now
[20:10] <_BIGSHOT_> $ sudo vim /etc/init.d/make-ir-work <-- will this work on 16.04?
[20:11] <_BIGSHOT_> what should i use instead of init.d?
[20:11] <akik> Jordan_U: ok that's exactly what happened. after shutdown, ubuntu is unable to mount it
[20:12] <akik> thank god for ssds
[20:12] <kalcso> Anyone knows what should I do to fix switching between 2 languages in zesty by pressing shortkey?
[20:13] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: What is your end goal? What guide are you trying to follow?
[20:13] <_BIGSHOT_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25610043/ <-- Jordan_U can you turn this script into systemd?
[20:14] <_BIGSHOT_> i want to enable intel nuc to recognize ir remote commands
[20:14] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, can you convert this init.d script into systemd script?
[20:16] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, bud you there dawg?
[20:20] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, you there bud?
[20:23] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: What guide are you trying to follow?
[20:24] <_BIGSHOT_> http://blog.crsantos.info/2015/01/25/apple-remote-a1156-intel-nuc-kodibuntu-14-helix-ir-keytables/
[20:25] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: First, ensure that there aren't other differences between Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 17.04 that might prevent the steps in this guide from working, other than systemd vs upstart. Save that script somewhere and execute it, and see if it gets your IR remote working.
[20:26] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, IR works i can see the "scancodes"
[20:26] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Before running the script or only after?
[20:27] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, i installed ir-keytables and this command $ sudo ir-keytable -p NEC,RC6 -t
[20:27] <_BIGSHOT_> and remote ir codes were detected!
[20:29] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: So it sounds like most of that script isn't needed? I've never setup an IR remote in linux before. Do you just need the command "ir-keytable -p NEC,RC6 -t" run as root at boot?
[20:31] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U,  ir-keytable -p NEC,RC6 -w /etc/rc_keymaps/apple_remote <-- this command
[20:31] <_BIGSHOT_> modprobe nuvoton-cir
[20:32] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Also note that every instance of "&lt" and "$&gt" is supposed to be "<" and ">" respectively.
[20:34] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, i ran those commands as root and remote works
[20:34] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, i want it to start automatically at boot
[20:39] <buggaboosanchez> Does anyone know of a terminal ((other than gnome) that has the following features? Has tabs, ability to name tabs (via gui, hotkeys, and bash command on its own command line), and ability to contol the terminal's  behavior via the command line - so you can script terminal behavior mixed with other commands ?  I been looking at doing these kinnd of things with gnome but it doesn't look like its really geared for that and I'd like to try something
[20:39] <buggaboosanchez> fresh (new terminal) anyway. Thakns
[20:40] <Anticom> Hi all. I've just installed a fresh ubuntu and installed mysql-server package. However the service won't start and i'm not sure why
[20:40] <Anticom> I've found this SO thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/777845/mysql-not-working-after-upgrade-from-14-04-to-16-04 but I don't want to fiddle with stuff if there's a cleaner solution
[20:40] <Anticom> is this a known issue?
[20:41] <Anticom> buggaboosanchez: what kind of scripting do you mean?
[20:41] <Anticom> my workflow usualy is to add aliases in my .bashrc / .profile etc.
[20:41] <Anticom> However my favourite terminal is "guake". It's a kind of drop-down terminal
[20:43] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, you there how to do this at boot?
[20:44] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: Please be patient.
[20:45] <_BIGSHOT_> Jordan_U, ack would have been better
[20:47] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: I am on a laggy ssh connection trying to write responses to you. The more I need to stop writing my real responses to "ack" the longer it will take.
[20:47] <_BIGSHOT_> k
[20:48] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: OK, if those are the two commands that you want to run as at boot (I can't tell if they're correct/sufficient or not). Then make a script with those two commands, like http://paste.ubuntu.com/25610239/ and save it to /usr/bin/setup-ir, then "sudo chown root:root /usr/bin/setup-ir && sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/setup-ir". Then reboot and confirm that just running "sudo setup-ir" gets you working IR.
[20:49] <konrados> Hi. I want to upgrade one program (hexchat), and found this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/06/hexchat-irc-client-ubuntu-16-04/ - they tell me to add a ppa with $sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable  and here comes my question - *how* can I trust this concrete ppa, what this actually is, does anybody monitor this stuff?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> _BIGSHOT_: If it does, then create a new file /etc/systemd/system/setup-ir.service with the following contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25610302/
[20:53] <konrados> sorry for my English, I meant: how can I know I can trust this particular ppa. This actually applies to any ppa someone suggest me to add
[20:55] <Loshki_> konrados: your only real protection is that enough people use the ppa that the likelihood of an undetected vulnerability is low. In the end, using the official repos relies on much the same principle. At your own risk.
[20:55] <konrados> Loshki_, thanks, but how can I know how many ppl use this ppa?
[20:57] <Loshki_> konrados: I think you have to google it, and make your own estimate.
[21:01] <Loshki_> This is why people avoid ppas. Suppose you had something you wanted to release on your own. How would/could you convince people it was safe?
[21:02] <buggaboosanchez> Anticom: https://pastebin.com/PJsQzxa0
[21:02] <buggaboosanchez> Anticom: I heard in another channel that I should look for somethign called a 'terminal multiplexor' - such as 'tmux' (or others)
[21:03] <Toba> PPAs make me kinda nervous, yea.
[21:05] <Anticom> buggaboosanchez: well a terminal multiplexer just adds virtual terminals to your actual terminal. You can split your screen estate into multiple sub-terminals
[21:06] <Anticom> What's also nice about tmux is that you can close the "host" (tmux itself) and leave the commands you've started running
[21:06] <Anticom> Later you can then re-attach to those sessions
[21:06] <Anticom> like you would be able when using screen
[21:06] <Anticom> It takes a little time getting used to but it's actually a pretty powerful tool
[21:07] <buggaboosanchez> Anticom: Sounds pretty cool - think I'll play aorund w/ it  ;)
[21:07] <Anticom> I'd recommend searching for .tmux.conf files on github etc. to get some ideas on how to configure tmux (for example: https://github.com/gpakosz/.tmux )
[21:11] <konrados> Loshki, sorry, I got disconnected, and I'm not sure if you answered :(. So, how to know how many ppl use a given ppa?
[21:12] <Loshki> konrados: no way to know for sure. And my question remains: Suppose you had something you wanted to release on your own. How would/could you convince people it was safe?
[21:13] <konrados> Loshki, I would open sourced
[21:13] <konrados> it
[21:14] <Loshki> konrados: that helps a little bit, but it's (clearly) no gurantee of freedom from bugs, or malice. Actually, I don't recall the last time a ppa had a serious security problem. Anyone?
[21:17] <konrados> Loshki, I... actually have no idea what do I precisely do, when I add a ppa. Like now I want to add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:overcoder/hexchat - how can I know what will precisely happen, how is this related to https://launchpad.net ? Is it actually related in anyway?
[21:18] <konrados> OK, that question was probably very stupid, wasn't it?:) But I really just... have no idea what happens when I add a ppa, something probably obvious to you.
[21:18] <Loshki> konrados: what exactly is it about hexchat that makes you unable to wait for the regular release cycle, with it's attendant worries.
[21:19] <konrados> Loshki, it's really not about hexchat, I've had these doubts since I started using ubuntu. It's just that now I finally asked the question :)
[21:20] <Mathisen> konrados, if i where you i would not get in to the habbit of adding ppa,s
[21:20] <konrados> Loshki, my current version of hexchat is from 2015, on #hexchat they suggest upgrading
[21:20] <Mathisen> you will just end upp with a system that have 10 diffrent versions of whatever and finaly just die
[21:20] <konrados> Mathisen, but it seems to be the only way to install the newest version of hexchat, or am I wrong?
[21:21] <oerheks> yes, zesty gets that version , xenial sticks on 2.10 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat
[21:21] <Mathisen> konrados, you are wrong yes
[21:21] <Mathisen> konrados, get the source https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/archive/master.tar.gz
[21:21] <konrados> oerheks, yeah, that.
[21:23] <Loshki> konrados: a PPA is just a repository with files in it you can download, with a bit of housekeeping so you can update stuff easily. Unless you have a clear need, it's not worth resorting to a ppa, in my opinion.
[21:25] <konrados> Loshki, ok, got it, so I'll try to do that without a ppa :)
[21:26] <jamie_1> hey, odd question... i was having issue with my linux intsall whereit randomly crashed and when i restarted it, it was broken. so i figured it was the hdd and i replaced it but after doing a fresh install on the new hdd it still crashes the whole system and i have to restart...would that be and issue in ubuntu or probably the ram?
[21:27] <jamie_1> if it is ram is it possible to block the bad sectors like you would on a hdd with ubuntu
[21:28] <Ben64> test the ram
[21:29] <konrados> Mathisen, thanks but... I have no idea what to do with this downloaded archive :(((
[21:29] <oerheks> jamie_1, Yes you can ... btw do you see any smoke?
[21:29] <Mathisen> konrados, http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/building.html
[21:29] <jamie_1> oerheks: yeah i was thinking earlier...my bad
[21:30] <jamie_1> and Ben64 im doing that now
[21:30] <oerheks> do a memtest86 run with a live iso
[21:30] <jamie_1> but if it is a ram issue... is it possible to block the bad sectors like you would a hdd?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> jamie_1: Just those symptoms could be caused by a vast number of things. In what way was your install "broken" after crashing and rebooting? You can exclude bad areas of RAM, if that is the problem, but it's probably better to just replace the bad stick with a good one.
[21:32] <jamie_1> oerheks: i did a boot with a live stick and im running the mem test right now. and Jordan_U it would randomly revert to a non-gui display and then i couldnt do anything and it was complaining about a pcr read issue. then when i rebooted it would just get stuck in the boot loop
[21:33] <jamie_1> the memtest is at 50% right now
[21:33] <jamie_1> with 0 errors so far
[21:33] <Ben64> leave it running for a few hrs at least
[21:34] <konrados> Mathisen, Loshki - I just want to say thank you now, before I'll go into builing this thing and probably crash everything :) So, thank you!
[21:34] <Loshki> jamie_1: I like to run a memtest overnight
[21:35] <jamie_1> also odd question on top of that one... this computer i have been using for about a year and a half now and i bought it from a school which i put linux on it but a few times i tried to run windows it would have issue becaue it was locked with computrace.... is it possible that computrace with the new versions of ubuntu is able to shut it down like it does for windows?
[21:36] <Loshki> konrados: I'm running 14.04, which is old, but my regular, repo-downloaded hexchat seems to be newer than yours (2.9.6, compiled Apr 2016). Why is that?
[21:38] <konrados> Mathisen, but they tell me to do $apt install meson libcanberra-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev and many other, but... what if I have newer versions of this stuff? And... shouldn't the dependencies be managed by... something... not me? Like why ppl invented those .deb files? I'm really lost...
[21:38] <konrados> Loshki, IDK, maybe you upgraded?
[21:39] <konrados> Loshki, ah, I missed the "my regular, repo-downloaded" part
[21:41] <konrados> Loshki, this is what Help/about told me: "2.10.2, Compiled: Dec 18 2015" - "2.10" seems to be newer than 2.9, only the dates don't do the math here o_O
[21:41] <Mathisen> konrados, if you feel like you dont want to mess with it stay with the ones in the repo
[21:41] <Mathisen> konrados, also if you after having new shiny stuff all the time you using wrong dist, switch over to a dist that is a rolling one. like arch for example
[21:41] <konrados> Mathisen, I don't only want to learn doing this with hexchat, hexchat isn't that important to me. I want to learn this thins in general.
[21:42] <konrados> Mathisen, but I like ubuntu :) No, I don't want only new shiny things, but on the other hand, i don't want three years old stuff :)
[21:43] <Mathisen> like i said dont use a dist that has relases then
[21:43] <Loshki> konrados: actually that's quite reasonable. Your version is later than mine. The compilation date is just when it was built for inclusion into a release. That lag is part of the reason the risk is lower with repos. People have had more time to test it.
[21:45] <konrados> Loshki, ok, I got it, I think :) Thanks
[21:48] <illuminated> freebsd is kinda a 'rolling release' as well
[21:48] <illuminated> they have periodic releases, but they have a clear upgrade path from one release to the next
[21:49] <illuminated> although, it's probably not considered a true 'rolling release'
[21:50] <Loshki> I *choose* to run older software, as I prioritize stability/security over new features on my production machines.
[21:52] <konrados> Loshki, yes, but hexchat isn't one of those programs I *really* care when it comes to stability :) Same with most gui programs.
[21:52] <Mathisen> Loshki, i was thinking that before also, then i tried diffrent dists and now running arch and have been for 1 year. and i must say it is borderline the most stable os i used
[21:53] <Mathisen> so stable can be new stuff also
[21:53] <Mathisen> it all comes down to how you handle it
[21:53] <illuminated> konrados what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:53] <konrados> illuminated, xenial, 16.04
[21:54] <jamie_1> Loshki: it finished with 0 erros on a full test
[21:54] <illuminated> any reason you haven't done a do-release-upgrade to 17.04 so you can use the zesty repo?
[21:55] <illuminated> i'm sure hexchat in the zesty repo would be a bit newer
[21:55] <konrados> illuminated, eeeee, no, I won't upgrade entire system only to get newest version of some irc client... :) I mean, I really thought upgrading one simple app should be easier than that :)
[21:55] <jamie_1> any ideas on diagnossing issue
[21:55] <Loshki> jamie_1: that cannot possibly have been an 'overnight' run. You'll be sleeping anyway.
[21:56] <jamie_1> Loshki: i set the test to do all tests and it finishedin 2hrs
[21:56] <illuminated> konrados: welcome to linux.
[21:56] <theablestman> how do i remove discord from ubuntu 14.04lts?
[21:56] <jamie_1> theablestman: depends on how you installed it
[21:57] <jamie_1> if you used apt-get you woulddo apt-get remove discord. if you used a deb you should be able to use dpkg if not then do it manually
[21:57] <Loshki> jamie_1: That's a good sign, depending on how much ram it has?
[21:57] <theablestman> sudo dpgk -i discord-0.0.2.deb
[21:57] <jamie_1> Loshki: 8gb
[21:58] <theablestman> how do i remove it with dpgk
[21:58] <Loshki> theablestman: do you have a /var/cache/apt/archives/discord* file?
[21:59] <Ben64> sudo dpkg -r discord-0.0.2.deb
[21:59] <oerheks> not, use apt
[21:59] <theablestman> k ty
[21:59] <Jordan_U> theablestman: I would recommend just removing with apt "sudo apt remove discord". (Things installed via dpkg can be removed via apt).
[21:59] <theablestman> k
[22:00] <illuminated> sudo apt purge discord
[22:00] <Loshki> jamie_1: what kind of hardware is it?
[22:00] <jamie_1> Loshki: its a lenovo thinkpad l440 with dual core i5 dual with 8gb of ram
[22:00] <jamie_1> intel hd5200 graphics
[22:01] <theablestman> k
[22:02] <theablestman> ty
[22:05] <Loshki> jamie_1: bummer. laptop hardware is hard to troubleshoot...
[22:06] <Aaaaand> I just installed ubuntu 16.04 on a new computer, it was shipped with windows 10 home, when I installed ubuntu, it asked me to install in dual boot mode, I clicked yes. Everything went fine so far but when I now restart the computer I go to the grub command line
[22:06] <Aaaaand> When I restart and I hit f10 quickly to go to bios and then just hit save, it does go to the normal grub menu where I can choose ubuntu
[22:07] <Aaaaand> any ideas how to solve it?
[22:07] <jamie_1> Loshki: yeah... i know. and i dont have the money to go buy another one
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr -v".
[22:09] <Loshki> jamie_1: cheap fix attempt #1: run it next to a fan in case overheating is the problem (how old is it. Did you ever clean it? Does the cat sit on it?)
[22:10] <jamie_1> Loshki: 3 years, yes and no
[22:11] <jamie_1> i have an much older laptop running as a server lol
[22:11] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/raw/z2bxmrEz
[22:11] <Loshki> jamie_1: if it were a tower, power supply tests would be next, I think
[22:12] <jamie_1> Loshki: right now its running... well see how it goes with the fan... if it stops i know i need to redo the tim and maybe put in a better fan
[22:16] <Loshki> jamie_1: that's the idea. Worst case would probably be an non visible mobo crack. You'd have to replace the mobo to even test that as a theory.
[22:16] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Do you have any USB drives connected when you're booting?
[22:17] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: One external hard drive, but there no OS on it
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Do you get any error message when you're dropped to the grub shell?
[22:24] <undeclared> I'm using 16.04 desktop, whenever I switch inputs on my display device and go back, the screen is blank and I have to forcefully log out from an SSH terminal to get video back
[22:24] <Aaaaand> sorry my internet was gone
[22:24] <Aaaaand> I don't if you got my comments
[22:24] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: One external hard drive, but there no OS on it
[22:24] <Aaaaand> The pc also has two drives, one ssd and one normal drive. Windows is on the ssd and ubuntu on the other one
[22:24] <Aaaaand> (normally)
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Do you get any error message when you're dropped to the grub shell?
[22:25] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: no
[22:26] <Aaaaand> I think it has something to do with the dual boot
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: So that you know, currently Windows and Ubuntu are both sharing the same EFI System Partition, presumably on the ssd.
[22:27] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: is that a problem?
[22:27] <Aaaaand> well probably, but how do I fix it
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: It shouldn't be unless you plan to run Ubuntu without the ssd plugged in.
[22:28] <Aaaaand> no I don't plan to do that
[22:29] <Aaaaand> but is that the reason for the grub shell to come up?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: It shouldn't be.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Do you get any error message when you're dropped to the grub shell?
[22:33] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: no
[22:33] <Aaaaand> (you already asked btw : )
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Sorry :). Can you be at the grub shell and here on IRC from another computer at the same time?
[22:34] <Aaaaand> yes I'm on IRC on another pc, so I'll restart to see the grub shell
[22:35] <Aaaaand> It will take 5 to 10 minutes though
[22:36] <buggaboosanchez> could a linter be used to enforce a naming convention on the local ubuntu system?
[22:41] <undeclared> I have a weird issue (intel IGP) where if I switch off the input and back on, it blanks the screen.. Anyone encountered this and have any idea how to fix it?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> buggaboosanchez: A naming convention for what?
[22:49] <buggaboosanchez> Jordan_U: For example - suppose I want to make sure that all files and dirs under /home/* are in lower camel and can not contain anything  but numbers or letter and can not contain more than 10 letters - then, if I try to do any of 'touch MyStupidlyLongFileWithWrongCase'  it will abort the creation of the file and throw an error message (possibly containing what riles were violated or need to be fixed). If I use any other command to create the file (
[22:49] <buggaboosanchez> or directory with the improper na me - eg: cat, mkdr, etc) I will get the same behavior / enforcement. <---  That is an arbitrary example just to communicate one use case - the rules should be customizable to suit ones own use case(s).
[22:50] <Rashad> Hey all. I have created a bootable virtual hard drive (vhd) from which I want to use the official Ubuntu ISO to install Ubuntu. However, for the windows boot manager to work correctly, I need to specify the file that firsts starts the booting from the ISO.
[22:50] <Rashad> Which file would that be?
[22:53] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: ok, I see the grub shell now
[22:56] <Aaaaand> I see the grub prompt
[22:56] <Aaaaand> not the rescue one
[22:59] <buggaboosanchez> I see there is this: https://www.shellcheck.net  <---  linter for bash - could it enforce a file and directory naming convention?
[22:59] <buggaboosanchez> has anyone used it with ubuntu?
[23:02] <Ben64> buggaboosanchez: doubt that would work
[23:08] <Aaaaand> anybody can help me with my booting problem?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: What is the output of "echo $prefix"?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> buggaboosanchez: I'm still not understanding what naming convention you want to enforce. Are you trying to prevent yourself from creating files named in the "wrong" way? Are you trying ot prevent scripts you write from creating files named in the "wrong" way? What is your desired naming convention?
[23:16] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: (hd0,gpt1)/boot/grub
[23:17] <Aaaaand> that doesn't exist though
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: What does "ls" without any other arguments list?
[23:18] <Aaaaand> (hd0) (hd0,gpt1) .. to gpt4
[23:19] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: And what does "ls $prefix" list?
[23:19] <Aaaaand> file /boot/grub not found
[23:20] <Aaaaand> when I do ls (hd0,gpt1), it says filesystem is fat, for the other it says, filesystem is unknown
[23:21] <Aaaaand> but when i boot, the root is on /dev/sdb4 I think
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: "ls (hd0,gpt1)/"
[23:22] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: efi/ System Volume Information/
[23:22] <Aaaaand>  /dev/sdb4 should be (hd1,gpt4) no?
[23:23] <Aaaaand> it's not in the list
[23:23] <Aaaaand> it's looking at the wrong disk I think
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: The way that it should work is that it should initially read a grub.cfg from /efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg within the EFI System Partition, which should then change the prefix to your root partition and read the /boot/grub/grub.cfg there.
[23:25] <Aaaaand> there is a grub.cfg file at (hd0,gpt1)/efi/ubuntu
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: cat /efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg
[23:26] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: configfile /efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg
[23:26] <Aaaaand> search.fs_uuid 2b..lots_of_numbers root hd1,gpt4
[23:27] <Aaaaand> set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'
[23:27] <Aaaaand> configfile $prefix/grub.cfg
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Ahh, now I think I know what's happening. (Assuming you now have a grub menu)
[23:28] <max3> what the hell is this `tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:8000          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      off (0.00/0/0)
[23:28] <max3> `
[23:28] <Ben64> something listening on port 8000
[23:28] <max3> what is off?
[23:29] <max3> isn't that the name of the binary?
[23:29] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: I did configfile and now I just have a clean shell again
[23:29] <Aaaaand> like I did the command 'clear'
[23:29] <Ben64> max3: dunno, my netstat doesn't have that column
[23:30] <max3> Ben64, netstat -ano gives me that
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: My guess is that your slow HD takes longer to initialize than the ssd, and if it hasn't been initialized by the time grub starts, it won't be accessible. Running through the boot firmware configuration menus at some point probably probes for, and initializes, drives including your Ubuntu containing HD.
[23:30] <max3> how do i investigate which binary owns which port
[23:31] <Ben64> max3: netstat -lnp | grep 8000
[23:31] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: oh, so I always have to go through the bios now?
[23:32] <Loshki> Ben64: that last column is labelled "Timer" in mine. It's talking about tcp timers.
[23:32] <max3> Ben64, thanks
[23:32] <Ben64> Loshki: ok
[23:32] <max3> Ben64, wait this is just unix sockets
[23:32] <max3> oh nm i'm sorry
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: You have a few options. 1: Find an option in your boot firmware to probe for drives. 2: Move your Ubuntu ESP to the HDD, so that your boot firmware *knows* it needs to initialize the internal HD to boot Ubuntu.
[23:34] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: you mean in the bios?
[23:34] <Aaaaand> (for option 1)
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: Yes. (Boot firmware is a more general term, which includes BIOS, UEFI, Coreboot, OpenFirmware, etc based boot firmware, wheres technically a "BIOS" should be a BIOS based, i.e. not UEFI, boot firmware. That said, most boot firmware manufacturers for UEFI boot firmware call it a BIOS, so I guess I'm fighting a losing battle :)
[23:38] <Aaaaand> Well it looked like a standard bios, I don't know if that option is there I will look
[23:41] <Aaaaand> Jordan_U: The bios is very basic, I don't know if there is a hidden button to see more advanced features, but it doesn't seem possible
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: If this is a fresh install then the easiest way to get your EFI System Partition to be on the HDD is probably just to temporarily unplug the SSD and re-install Ubuntu. You can also make the change without re-installing, and re-installing and just manually partitioning rather than unplugging the SSD.
[23:43] <Aaaaand> Thanks for the help. I will look into moving the ESP to hdd
[23:43] <Aaaaand> but I didn't configure this part manual, ubuntu put the esp on ssd then
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Aaaaand: You're welcome. Yea, this seems like a possibly questionable descision by the automatic partitioning in Ubiquity (the installer).