[07:29] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:56] <chesedo> morning inetpro and others
[07:56] <chesedo> inetpro: meeting again tonight
[07:57] <inetpro> wow, where did the time go?
[07:57] <Kilos> hi inetpro chesedo 
[07:57] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[07:57] <inetpro> did you get rain last night?
[07:57] <Kilos> not if you dont count 10 drops
[07:58] <Kilos> nothing even showing on gauge
[07:58] <Kilos> and still dusty
[07:58] <chesedo> wow, we had a lot
[07:58] <Kilos> i watched the lightning there
[07:59] <Kilos> how much?
[07:59] <chesedo> our gauge is broken so wil have to wait for pro
[07:59] <Kilos> pro?
[08:00]  * chesedo had to run around the house to go which of the net and returned semi wet
[08:00] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:00] <chesedo> inet pro
[08:00] <Kilos> 'oh ja
[08:00] <chesedo> s/which/switch/
[08:01] <Kilos> so many peeps use pro for all kinds of things i get lost
[08:01] <Kilos> even pro for profit
[08:01] <chesedo> lol
[08:01] <Kilos> driving me nuts
[08:02] <Kilos> or nutser i should say 
[08:02] <chesedo> Kilos: so hoe gaan dit met oom?
[08:12] <Kilos> sigh
[08:12] <Kilos> net sucks
[08:13] <inetpro> what's up doc?
[08:13] <Kilos> left arm getting weaker, when i went in they did many xrays and say its a nerve problem, ulna nerve i think they said
[08:14] <inetpro> am not sure how much rains we had but it was not so much
[08:14] <Kilos> but they wont listen when i say its blood shortage to the left arm
[08:14] <Kilos> now will see neuro peeps on the 21st
[08:15] <Kilos> our medical system is shocking
[08:15] <Kilos> left hand much whiter than right hand
[08:15] <inetpro> ai!
[08:15] <Kilos> maybe i must take a box of spectacles next time so they can see better
[08:30] <chesedo> lol, yeah sometimes one gets the impression that some are just there for the paycheck at month end
[08:30] <Kilos> definitely
[08:33] <andrewlsd> Morning all
[09:04] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[09:20] <andrewlsd> \o
[09:47] <bushtech> Morning all. Finally found the time to change my ubuntu server from 32 bit to 64 bit. But ran into a problem trying to increase the size of bootduring install. Does anybody have a recipe for me to do this?
[09:52] <chesedo-> hi andrewlsd
[14:59] <Kilos> we see how long we stay connected this time
[18:33] <chesedo> wow now i have a bad connection
[18:34] <chesedo> anyone ready for the meeting
[18:34] <chesedo> *?
[18:34] <chesedo> inetpro paddatrapper theblazehen
[18:36] <chesedo> hi aquarat
[18:43] <paddatrapper> chesedo: will be in 5
[18:44] <chesedo> paddatrapper: seems like we will be the only ones...
[18:50]  * inetpro is back now?
[18:51] <inetpro> chesedo: I think I'm here now :-)
[18:51] <paddatrapper> So 3 :D
[18:51] <chesedo> hmm
[18:52] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - September 2017
[18:52]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:52] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction 
[18:52] <chesedo> Welcome all and thank you for joining in on our monthly meeting
[18:52] <chesedo> As usual, our bot maaz does the minutes, so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. 
[18:52] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:52] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:52] <Maaz> chesedo: Righto
[18:52] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:52] <Maaz> inetpro: Done
[18:52] <londoner> Maaz: I am Paul Romano
[18:52] <Maaz> londoner: Okay
[18:52] <chesedo> Today's agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170926
[18:53] <inetpro> londoner: nice to see you here as well
[18:53] <chesedo> i'll skip over the regular content since we are all regular... that ok with all?
[18:53] <londoner> hi all. thanks inetpro
[18:53] <inetpro> chesedo: +1
[18:53] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed All happy with agenda
[18:53] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with agenda
[18:54] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting 
[18:54] <chesedo> previous meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170822
[18:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:54] <chesedo> just for a refresher
[18:54] <chesedo> londoner: will you be needing any next step help?
[18:54] <paddatrapper> Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze 
[18:54] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Alrighty
[18:54] <chesedo> ...trello, mailing list, etc...
[18:55] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Events 
[18:55] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:55] <chesedo> upcoming events for the next month are:
[18:55] <chesedo> - PyCon ZA 2017: 5th and 6th October 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://za.pycon.org/
[18:55] <paddatrapper> Eish don't remind me... So much to organise before then
[18:55] <chesedo> paddatrapper: you were at debconf iirc?
[18:55] <paddatrapper> chesedo: yup
[18:55] <londoner> I opened a Launchpad account in May and, after waiting for 4 months, earlier this month finally got approved as an Ubuntu Wiki editor.
[18:55] <inetpro> londoner: wow
[18:56] <chesedo> paddatrapper: wow keeping busy... how was it?
[18:56] <chesedo> londoner: are you part of the wiki team?
[18:56] <londoner> I maintain the official Full Circle Magazine article index at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/FullIssueIndex - also in spreadsheet format at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UgDCiTyVRrG5cRFSgOLmY-bEOaZ0TQwf83j7RFCUybg
[18:56] <paddatrapper> chesedo: it was good fun. Getting there and back was a mission, but lots of interesting talks and discussions
[18:57] <paddatrapper> Debian packages are over 95% reproducible! 
[18:57] <chesedo> ah cool, i have not read that in ages
[18:57] <inetpro> londoner: that is nice to know
[18:57] <chesedo> paddatrapper: reproducible?
[18:58] <paddatrapper> chesedo: so the binary built in the archive can be rebuilt on another machine with the same environment and be bit for bit identical 
[18:58] <chesedo> i see the full circle mag still has the py section
[18:59] <paddatrapper> https://reproducible-builds.org/
[19:00] <chesedo> paddatrapper: that is interesting, i though that machine languages might differ between machines...
[19:00] <chesedo> or is that covered by the "same environment"?
[19:01] <paddatrapper> chesedo: yup. Needs to be the same architecture 
[19:01] <chesedo> ah righto
[19:01] <chesedo> i am not aware of other events for the year
[19:02] <chesedo> are any of you?
[19:02] <paddatrapper> But seeing as the Debian build infrastructure builds for all supported architectures, it isn't that much if an issue 
[19:02]  * inetpro should try to make an effort to print the Full Circle Magazine for coffee table reading in the office
[19:02] <paddatrapper> Nope. Wikimania happening in CT next year is the next one I know of 
[19:03] <chesedo> inetpro: that might be a lot of ink (colour wise)
[19:03] <chesedo> but a great distraction
[19:03] <inetpro> chesedo: true, that there's always nice content in there and we can't keep it to ourselves
[19:03] <inetpro> info is there to be shared
[19:03] <inetpro> :-)
[19:04] <chesedo> i remember saving each one years ago for the gimp content it had
[19:04] <inetpro> s/that there's/but there's/
[19:05] <chesedo> inetpro: how big is your office in head counts?
[19:05] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed No other events to add
[19:05] <Maaz> Agreed: No other events to add
[19:05] <inetpro> we have four in the office but a few other IT guys and users who come and go
[19:06] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[19:06] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:07] <chesedo> if anyone has any misc topics...
[19:07] <inetpro> chesedo: but you're right... maybe too much ink needed
[19:07]  * chesedo now wonders if it is possible to get a copied subscription
[19:08] <chesedo> or maybe a print shop will work out cheaper... and better looking...
[19:08] <inetpro> would be nice if we could just do cheap printing and selling locally to cover the printing costs
[19:09] <chesedo> i think posting would be the biggest/killer issue here in SA
[19:09] <chesedo> but yeah...
[19:10]  * chesedo sighs
[19:10] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:10] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:10] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 24 October 2017 @ 20:30
[19:10] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 24 October 2017 @ 20:30
[19:11] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:11] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:11] <chesedo> paddatrapper: are you still on for the next chair?
[19:12] <inetpro> +1 for paddatrapper, if he's available
[19:13]  * chesedo has an exam on that and the next day
[19:14] <inetpro> chesedo: he said last time, "I _should_ be free"
[19:15] <chesedo> ok, i'll put him on for now... can change if need be
[19:15] <paddatrapper> Sorry, yes I am
[19:15] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed paddatrapper to chair next meeting 
[19:15] <Maaz> Agreed: paddatrapper to chair next meeting
[19:15] <chesedo> awesome, ty paddatrapper
[19:16] <chesedo> and thank you all for having joined in
[19:16] <chesedo> Maaz: end meeting
[19:16] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:16] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-09-26-18-52-03.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-09-26-18-52-03.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-09-26-18-52-03.html
[19:16] <paddatrapper> chesedo: thanks! 
[19:16] <chesedo> lol that's the quickest yet inetpro
[19:16] <chesedo> yw paddatrapper
[19:17] <inetpro> chesedo: sorry for my lack of partcipation
[19:18] <chesedo> inetpro: you added loads
[19:18]  * chesedo is now interested in finding out how much it would cost to print a mag
[19:27] <inetpro> chesedo: maybe something this could work? http://www.printondemand.co.za/