[00:55] <Roey> hello
[00:55] <Roey> hi, how do I restart iptables?  I try "sudo sevice iptables restart" but I get "Failed to restart iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not found."
[01:03] <mparillo> Have you tried (without sudo) systemctl [stop|start|restart|reload] iptables
[01:09] <Roey> mparillo: oh, that;s right
[01:09] <Roey> it's systemctl now
[01:09] <Roey> thank you
[01:09] <Roey> mparillo: $ sudo systemctl restart iptables
[01:09] <Roey> Failed to restart iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not found.
[02:07] <mparillo> I do not think you need sudo
[02:13] <grahamperrin[m]> Updated Kubntu a few minutes ago, accepted the invitation to restart the computer, now I get no further than sddm.
[02:16] <grahamperrin[m]> Logged in at tty2, using htop, AFAICT the highest numbered PID for the failed login (user grahamperrin) is for kwalletd5
[03:03] <valorie> grahamperrin[m]: you might try `sudo apt install -f` or if you're using the old LTS, `sudo apt-get install -f`
[03:03] <valorie> f=fix
[03:04] <valorie> they had a recent update to apt, which seemed to mess up discover until another update to it
[03:04] <valorie> in Artful at least
[03:05] <grahamperrin[m]> valorie: thanks, 0 to upgrade etc..
[03:06] <valorie> well then, `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[03:07] <valorie> and finally, `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[03:08] <grahamperrin[m]> thinking back a few days, I vaguely recall adding a repo wondering whether it would get me Plasma 10.9.5
[03:08] <valorie> or apt-get dist-upgrade for older
[03:08] <valorie> what is your base system?
[03:08] <valorie> aha, you might have the beta PPA?
[03:09] <grahamperrin[m]> 17.04 and I see zesty-backports. How do I get rid of that backports ppa?
[03:09] <valorie> oh, that shouldn't hurt
[03:09] <valorie> but you can always ppa-purge
[03:09] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[03:10] <valorie> I've never seen a problem with backports
[03:11] <valorie> those are pretty extensively tested before being put there
[03:11] <grahamperrin[m]> Also I forget, how do I bring up the listing of boot options? (After entering the crypt phrase for the encrypted disk.)
[03:12] <valorie> but still, every PPA can be pp-purged
[03:12] <valorie> grahamperrin[m]: depends on your computer, but usually shift or control or so
[03:14]  * grahamperrin[m] tries both of those, just the pulsing Kubuntu logo
[03:23] <grahamperrin[m]> I have decades of experience with command line Mac OS X, around three years with FreeBSD, but the PPA stuff I find horribly confusing. The good news: the Kubuntu machine is non-essential to me
[03:23] <grahamperrin[m]> It's past 4 in the morning here, I might revisit this some time tomorrow. Thanks folks.
[05:28] <manberpig> list
[06:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:38] <ripper17> Hi all. Is there a PPA for newer KDE Applications for Kubuntu 16.04? I'd like to get 16.12 (or newer) as there was a bugfix in kate which would help me out quite a bit :-)
[06:45] <hateball> ripper17: this is what exists https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=xenial
[06:45] <hateball> I don't think there are any plans to backport further, but #kubuntu-devel knows for sure
[06:45] <acheronuk> ripper17: what is the bugfix?
[06:48] <acheronuk> not planning to backport a whole KDE apps release. too many dependency changes. individual things and fixes, maybe though
[07:16] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been wondering if there is a way to change the characters that signify a wourd-boundary in the system. What I mean is this: One can highlight a single word (let's say in LibreOffice) with the key-combination of shift+ctrl+[left or right]arrow. this works for words separated by spaces and "-" for example. But I would like it to work on "_" as well. Is there some way to achieve that?
[07:17] <noaXess> hey hey hey ;) long time ago
[07:17] <noaXess> hey hateball
[07:22] <hateball> hello noaXess !
[07:25] <noaXess> did anyone find a solution in kubuntu 16.04 to integrated google drive into dolphin?
[07:26] <noaXess> if i add google to online accounts, i only see that hangout services is loaded
[07:30] <hateball> noaXess: https://community.kde.org/KIO_GDrive
[07:31] <hateball> I dont know if it is included in Kubuntu now, or if you can manually compile against 16.04
[07:31] <noaXess> not included.. already checked hateball
[07:31] <noaXess> thats why i ask here ;)
[07:31] <hateball> noaXess: I was thinking in more recent releases
[07:31] <noaXess> hm..
[07:31] <hateball> I am also on 16.04, but I only use drive in a browser so
[07:46] <ripper17> acheronuk: https://cgit.kde.org/kate.git/commit/?id=fa5e37af33f44f6e721880042a48e162973c4840
[07:47] <ripper17> hateball: thanks, the backports is nice (I got it already) but it "only" has kate 16.04.3
[07:48] <acheronuk> ripper17: thanks. I will see in the next day or 2 if that fix can be applied to the kate package we already have in backports
[07:48] <ripper17> that would be great, thanks for looking into it !
[07:50] <acheronuk> ripper17: you are welcome. not sure it will be today, but if you are about tomorrow might have a test build to try (if the patch does do something weird)
[07:50] <acheronuk> *doesn't do something weird
[07:51] <ripper17> no worries, I'll be around for the rest of the week at least :-)
[07:51] <ripper17> (as long as my ISP doesn't disconnect me...)
[07:51] <acheronuk> cool :)
[07:54] <ripper17> Mrokii: you can define additional characters for Libreoffice in the settings
[07:55] <ripper17> hmm, sorry, I might have been mistaken, my LO has "_" as separating character built in, it seems ...
[08:35] <noaXess> hateball: yeah.. me also using drive only in browser.. kust thought there is a simple integration ;)
[08:37] <Mrokii> ripper17: I'm sorry, it seems that actually LO does separate on "_". But where it doesn't work is in the standard file requester in Kubuntu. So my main problem is that I'd need a way to set that for the system as a whole.
[08:50] <ripper17> Mrokii: AFAIK this is hard coded in QT: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qchar.html#Category-enum
[08:50] <ripper17> but I'm not an expert on this, sorry
[09:21] <Mrokii> ripper17: Thanks for the info.
[09:29] <Mrokii> Okay, here's another problem (though it's probably too generic). As of late, kwin seems to crash quite often. Sometimes it restarts by itself, sometimes I have to pen a konsole to restart it manually. I don't know what I should look for to see what causes the crashes.
[09:30] <Mrokii> Oh, btw, it seems to be crash-prone especially when I try to switch from one virtual screen to another.
[09:49] <Maakuth> I see that as well
[09:49] <Maakuth> it happens more seldom after installing newer versions off kde ppa
[09:50] <Maakuth> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports this one
[11:00] <Mrokii> Maakuth: I think I have that activated already, but I'll take a look. Thanks.
[11:02] <Maakuth> i still have crashes, not so often though
[11:02] <Maakuth> maybe it's some unfortunate version choice of kde packages for 16.04
[11:03] <Mrokii> I'm on 17.04.
[11:03] <Maakuth> oh
[11:04] <Maakuth> too bad, perhaps it's just kde being buggy these days
[11:04] <Mrokii> Could be.
[11:04] <Maakuth> I used to like KDE in in 3.x days and now i'm back. I don't think it used to crash that much back then
[11:05] <Mrokii> I haven't been that long on KDE, so I couldn't say. I think it's still far better than Gnome. :) I wouldn't want to go back to that.
[11:06] <Maakuth> https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ somebody still maintains kde 3
[11:06] <Maakuth> it's obsolete these days I guess. but I liked it a lot ten years ago
[11:07] <Mrokii> Okay. :)
[11:08] <Maakuth> my main gripe with (k)ubuntu isn't with kde though... it's this problem of monitor discovery
[11:08] <Mrokii> For now, the crashes on Kubuntu aren that bad that I would switch to something else. But thanks anyway.
[11:08] <Mrokii> I only have one monitor, so I have no problems there.
[11:09] <Maakuth> i have a pair in both my home office and at work
[11:09] <Maakuth> and I haven't gotten xorg (or whichever component is responsible) to redetect the displays when I move between these. so I'll have to shut down and restart when I change location
[11:09] <Mrokii> I see.
[11:10] <Mrokii> Sounds bad indeed.
[11:13] <Maakuth> yeah.. I do two office days a week and remotely the rest, so there's four location changes every week
[11:15] <Mrokii> Regarding work... I need to leave for work. :D Was nice talking, but I have to go. Bye.
[11:18] <Maakuth> no problem
[11:53] <ysaeki> Anyone know of a secure remote desktop 'server' and how it might easily be installed? Thinking SPICE-protocol based.
[11:53] <ysaeki> *If of course I can get KDE stable and to stop crashing random things on this fresh install..
[11:57] <ysaeki> Much obliged...answer is Linux Mint.  Thanks.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:26] <eschoenmaker> hi
[15:33] <kiroma> Plasmashell suddenly started using 100% of CPU0 time.
[15:33] <kiroma> That ain't good is it?
[16:40] <mparillo> You would not have dynamic wallpaper would you?
[16:52] <carlos__> Buenas
[18:41] <elichai2> hey
[18:42] <elichai2> I'm trying to connect to google drive, I opened `online accounts` and I click on google and then I get this error: "There was an error while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2"
[18:42] <elichai2> any ideas what's the problem?
[21:52] <valorie> elichai2: have you enabled things on the Google side?