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TopRopenoalternative: what are you trying to do?00:03
noalternativeconfigure a cpu miner on a digital ocean droplet00:04
noalternativethen clone the the droplet00:04
noalternativeso I can mine quarks00:04
noalternativeand other low diff coins00:04
noalternativelike yescrypt and neoscrypt00:05
noalternativethis miner is multi algo00:06
noalternativeif I can't get it running their are other miners that are for individual algos but this one saves time00:06
noalternativebecause it does them all save for equihash00:06
noalternativehttps://is.gd/create.php here is a tutorial, but the miner mentioned is no longer supported on most stratus servers.00:10
noalternativehttps://is.gd/hdFIke  here is the tutorial00:11
noalternativedisregard other link00:12
plasticwrapHello! I have ubuntu installed on an asus t100 tablet. Just did sudo apt-get upgrade, and now I'm at a screen that says "Configuring grub-eli-ia32 A new version (/tmp/grub.6gzEOQ92dG) of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified. What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"00:22
plasticwrapI think I might've done something with grub back when I installed ubuntu on this tablet-hybrid-thing, so idk what to pick00:22
noalternativeplastiwrap I would keep the old grub00:23
noalternativeI have done this before and no harm came of it00:24
naccview the diff and see what you changed to decide00:24
noalternativeA version of Ubuntu that would install on arm w/ android is probably pretty customized00:24
plasticwrapalrighty one sec I'll paste this00:25
plasticwraphttps://ghostbin.com/paste/283b400:28
plasticwrapnacc:00:28
Roeyhi, how do I restart iptables?  I try "sudo sevice iptables restart" but I get "Failed to restart iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not found."00:42
BurgerTimehello room00:46
BurgerTimeI'm trying to figure out what software is included in certain ubuntu predefined bundles when doing the mini.iso install00:46
BurgerTimeIt's way too generic terms for my googlefoo00:46
Disaster_Areawhy are all the free video editors so horrible...00:57
Disaster_Areaopenshot keeps crashing and at one point wouldn't even load up whatsoever.00:57
Disaster_Areakdenlive is the most unintuitive thing I've ever used...00:57
Disaster_Areacan anyone direct me to a good free, simple video editor. I literally just want to put music to a picture and call it a video, it should be dead simple.00:58
Disaster_Areaoh and kdenlive is crashing too00:58
BurgerTimeDisaster_Area: not an ubuntu solution but try youtube then dl as mp401:00
BurgerTimesuggestion01:00
BurgerTimeshould be pretty easy. youtube editor01:00
Disaster_Areawhat, that doesn't make any sense01:00
Disaster_Areawhat am I supposed to upload to youtube in the first place if I don't have a video file01:00
BurgerTimetake a short video of your picture maybe shoot IDK01:01
Tobayou should use ffmpeg for this Disaster_Area.01:01
Disaster_Areai mean I have the .mp3 file and an image file01:01
Disaster_Areahow do I use ffmpeg for it Toba01:01
Disaster_AreaI already have that on my system01:01
Tobahttps://stackoverflow.com/a/2538223101:02
BurgerTimeAny advice on my issue... I'm trying to figure out what software is included in certain ubuntu predefined bundles when doing the mini.iso install01:02
BurgerTime It's way too generic terms for my googlefoo01:02
BurgerTime?01:02
Tobagood luck Disaster_Area01:02
TobaI gotta go01:02
Tobathat stackoverflow looks promising01:02
Tobamake sure to check what version you have like it says01:02
Tobaor just try it and if it works, cool.01:02
Disaster_Areaooh that's interesting01:03
Disaster_Areathat worked01:13
Disaster_Areathat's really awesome :o01:13
oterrivelhow to access a NTFS partition with a normal account? prompts for main account password when mounting/unmounting.01:15
oterrivelanyone?01:17
userushey guys, whats the best way to clone drives in ubuntu?01:18
oterrivelclonezilla?01:18
kk4ewtdd01:35
Roeyhi, how do I restart iptables?  I try "sudo sevice iptables restart" and "systemctl restart iptables" but I get "Failed to restart iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not found."01:35
pavlosRoey: iptables is not a service, you can save the rules, flush the tables, or restore the rules. For details, man iptables02:00
Roeyiptables-restore02:01
Roeypavlos: thanks02:01
memo1how i establish the execution order of service (systemd).  I need that a rc-local.service execute first than myscript.service02:20
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plasticwraphi03:14
plasticwrapI have ubuntu installed on an asus t100 tablet, did sudo apt-get upgrade and got "A new version (/tmp/grub.6gzEOQ9dG) of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified. What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"03:16
m0oIs Ubuntu 17.10 getting the switch from Unity tp Gnome?04:09
m0oto*04:09
adrian_1908m0o: Yes, to my knowledge 17.10 will already come with Gnome and no longer Unity.04:10
m0oHow stable is 17.10 now?04:10
adrian_1908I'm using Xubuntu 17.10 pre-release here and have had no issues (except Firefox being quite outdated).04:11
adrian_1908Can't tell you how the Gnome part is working out though, just that the rest of packages seem to work fine for me.04:12
m0oadrian_1908, how are upgrades these days, is it still recommended to do a fresh install instead?04:13
adrian_1908m0o: Oh I'm the wrong person to ask. I still do fresh installs each time, because I don't trust upgrades :o04:14
adrian_1908But personally, for 17.04 -> 17.10 I would definitely do fresh, because of the Unity -> Gnome switch.04:15
adrian_1908God knows how much cruft is getting left behind there.04:15
m0oadrian_1908, that's what i'm leaning towards04:15
m0oI enjoyed having GNOME on 17.0404:16
m0oBut I think even with that a fresh install is better.04:16
m0oadrian_1908, thanks for your input!04:17
adrian_1908np :)04:17
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smithmailgood afternoon04:26
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tr0gd0rIf I want to use a 4TB as a media folder in ubuntu, should I make a partition or just do mke4fs /dev/sdb?  Any benefits to making a partition?05:09
azidhakatr0gd0r: you get cryptic messages when you reinstall a year later and try to mount it (and forget that it has no partitions)05:13
tr0gd0rthat seems like reason enough to do it, haha.  Anything special I need to do to make it aligned since it has 4k sectors?05:13
alkisgHi, is it ok if I `cp -a /src-partition/* /dst-partition/`, when the src partition has a lost+found directory and the dst partition doesn't have one? Or do I need to omit copying lost+found, and use `mklost+found` on the dst partition?05:14
vltalkisg: I’d say you can just ignore lost+found. It will be created when needed.05:36
alkisgvlt: in the man page it says the space needs to be preallocated in case fsck needs to recover files... that's why a separate utility exists... but if fsck can cope with the space not being preallocated, then sure I could ignore it...05:40
vltalkisg: That’s the last thing I read about. Unfortunately I don’t rememeber where; night as well have been on SO :-D05:43
alkisg:)05:44
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m0oDoes anyone know how to get a more customized scaling in Ubuntu 7.10?06:15
lotuspsychjem0o: #ubuntu+1 for artful issues please06:20
m0olotuspsychje, thanks06:21
Gallomimiai'll be looking for some assistance on getting my system to boot. i have had the bios reset for me (by some engineer who thought that was a feature, not a bug) and i think i also need to be using the amd_iommu grub parameter. everything is pretty fubar right now. just plugging in a few wires to get it powered on06:23
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MrokiiHello. I've been wondering if there is a way to change the characters that signify a wourd-boundary in the system. What I mean is this: One can highlight a single word (let's say in LibreOffice) with the key-combination of shift+ctrl+[left or right]arrow. this works for words separated by spaces and "-" for example. But I would like it to work on "_" as well. Is there some way to achieve that?07:17
vltMrokii: Some systems behave differently with alt+arrow. Tried that?07:19
GallomimiaMrokii: i think you might find that there's different places to set that for different apps, versus the system itself07:22
Mrokiivlt: I just did, but that doesn't select a word.07:22
MrokiiGallomimia: I'm only interested in a system-wide setting.07:22
Gallomimiawell i don't believe all apps will respect it.07:23
MrokiiGallomimia: If there is some setting somewhere within the system I may try that out and see how it works.07:26
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Gallomimiasorry i dont know where it is07:27
Gallomimiai just want mine to boot up07:27
ducasseMrokii: a system-wide setting doesn't exist, the best you can hope for is a setting for gtk, one for qt etc07:28
Mrokiiducasse: Too bad.07:32
[worksti]hey, im trying to figure out bash syntax for functions. i have this: dr() { docker exec -i containername bash -c "$@" } which i then try to use like this: dr cp -n somefile otherfile07:35
[worksti]what i want to get is this: docker exec -i containername bash -c "cp -n somefile otherfile"07:36
ducasseMrokii: it's handled by a wide variety of different libraries, so not really possible07:36
[worksti]but i have found no way to get those quotes to appear correctly07:36
[worksti]any advice ?07:36
[worksti]naturally i have tried \""$@"\" to no avail07:36
ducasse[worksti]: tried #bash?07:37
[worksti]ducasse: i will now07:37
Mrokiiducasse: Okay. Thanks anyway.07:40
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funabash1hi huys how can i kill tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:6379          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      5140/redis-server 1 ?08:17
funabash1kill -9 pid doesnt work it restarts again with a new pid. /etc/init.d/redis-serer doesnt exists08:17
EriC^^funabash1: which ubuntu version?08:17
EriC^^funabash1: try sudo service stop redis-server08:17
EriC^^sorry, sudo service redis-server stop08:18
funabash1hmm doest it matter which version ? :p08:18
gnomethrowerwas about to correct you ;)08:18
funabash1worked08:18
funabash1thx08:18
EriC^^funabash1: well sort of, service works for both systemd and upstart08:18
GamoderHi everyone. I wanted to download a pulsesecure client for ubuntu, but all the pages where I can download it seem to require a login. Why is that? Where can I find a "normal" package for PulseSecure/ubuntu (14.04)?08:18
EriC^^funabash1: if you want to stop it from starting on reboots sudo service redis-server disable08:19
funabash1perfect thanks08:19
EriC^^no problem08:19
Gallomimiaah... it's running! now i need to figure out my bios options and amd_iommu grub options. can anyone help?08:19
funabash1sudo sudo service redis-server disable08:19
funabash1redis-server: unrecognized service08:19
EriC^^funabash1: is it ubuntu 16.04?08:20
Gallomimiaanyone with experience on a gigabyte 990fxa-ud3? it's not apparently the most linux friendly board08:21
oerhekssometimes it is ctrl shift v08:22
Gallomimiacontrol.... shift.... v?08:24
Gallomimia"it"08:24
funabash1cat /etc/debian_version08:25
funabash1stretch/sid08:25
qswzhmm I forgot how I enabled emojis on ubuntu on my last laptop08:31
johnny_|_Hi. How can I make resolvconf(?) to stop updating my /etc/resolv.conf file?08:31
johnny_|_I manually edited resolv.conf and I want it to stay this way.08:32
qswzhttp://emojione.com/ how good is thus?08:32
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gde33Can I seamlesly upgrade to a newer firefox? What kind of problems to expect?08:34
gde33(I mean the offical realease)08:35
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: resolvconf process will want to over-write it08:35
johnny_|_Two_Dogs: then I need to reconfigure it to stop putting nameserver 127.0.0.1 and search lan in that file08:36
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: if you use network-manager you can setup the dns via network-manager config08:37
johnny_|_Two_Dogs: do you know how to do it via command line?08:38
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: no, i dont08:38
johnny_|_anyone else?08:39
gde33ah found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion08:39
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: explain what you are wanting to do instead of the default08:42
johnny_|_Two_Dogs: default is: nameserver 127.0.0.1; search lan. I just want it to be nameserver 192.168.1.108:44
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: what dns server does system use now? its not 127.0.0.108:46
johnny_|_Two_Dogs: I guess it uses 127.0.0.1 by default. I want it to be 192.168.1.1. Don't know what you are hinting at.08:47
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: i am hinting at you already using 192.168.1.1 now, that is your router?08:48
johnny_|_Two_Dogs: correct, that is my router.08:49
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: have you otherwise tweaked dns settings elsewhere?08:54
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: if you have network-manager set to dhcp-auto i am thinking your system is looking at 192.168.1.1 for dns08:56
funabash1guys anyone know a tool for check if your ubuntu server are secured ?08:58
Two_Dogsjohnny_|_: try this> systemctl status Net* net* | grep server ## see what for nameserver?08:59
qswzok emojione was fucking up my webpages, all numbers displayed as emojis..09:02
lotuspsychjeqswz: keep it polite in here please09:09
lotuspsychjefunabash1: a nice tool is lynis09:09
lotuspsychje!info lynis | funabash109:09
ubottufunabash1: lynis (source: lynis): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-1 (zesty), package size 172 kB, installed size 1303 kB09:09
lotuspsychjefunabash1: another thing you can do is nmap your whole server09:12
funabash1lotuspsychje: thats just for open ports09:14
funabash1i want vuln scanner and check unpatched programs, misconfigured config files etc09:14
lotuspsychjefunabash1: open ports + services versions etc09:14
lotuspsychjefunabash1: keep in mind that the first thing a malicious user will try, is scan your ip remotely09:15
hateballfunabash1: OpenVAS09:15
funabash1ok09:15
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codecutterhow do i setup cron to run the following command once a day? 'certbot renew'?09:22
EriC^^codecutter: 0 0 0 * * root certbot renew09:24
codecutterwhere do place this?09:24
EriC^^sorry 0 0 * * *09:24
codecutterdo i paste in shell?09:25
vltcodecutter: You can run `crontab -e` to edit your crontabs.09:25
EriC^^codecutter: no, type "sudo crontab -e" and put "0 0 * * * certbot renew"     (without the root)09:25
codecutterdo i not need root to renew?09:26
codecutteri just renewed it and i had to do it with a sudo, else it complains09:27
codecutter'sudo certbot renew'09:27
EriC^^codecutter: yeah if you use sudo crontab -e you'll be editing root's crontab so dont use root in the command09:30
EriC^^are you allowed to renew the cert though? i think you get like 5 week or something?09:31
codecutter"The recommended way to renew certificates is certbot renew, which ideally should be run automatically at least once per day, normally using cron."09:31
codecutterhttps://community.letsencrypt.org/t/renew-letsencrypt-certificate/34677/209:31
EriC^^aha nice09:31
codecutterEriC^^: its not clear if i should place it in the root cran file the users09:32
codecutteri just had to renewed it directly and it asked me for sudo to do it09:32
codecutterrenew*09:32
EriC^^put it in sudo crontab -e, it'll run as root09:32
codecutterdo i need to reload anything after the edit?09:33
codecutterEriC^^09:34
EriC^^no09:34
codecutterok09:34
codecutterdone09:34
EriC^^should be good09:34
codecutterthks, dude09:35
ams__Any good password managers for ubuntu?09:50
dl8bhI for myself use keepass209:50
oerheksmany,09:52
oerhekshttp://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-linux-password-managers09:52
oerheksbut good/best is an opinion, use the one you like best09:52
ams__I want want that integrates with the login key file encryption but can't find one09:54
oerheks"login key file encryption".. you want it to replace seahorse/keyring ?09:57
oerheksnot sure what you mean with that, actually09:57
maneHi everyone10:14
maneI see that ubuntu 16.04 has ruby 2.3.1p112 as official version and I was wondering if that's a vulnerable one as 2.3.1 should be vulnerable10:15
maneis there a document I can consult to see if a specific package coming from the official repositories is vulnerable or now?10:16
mane*not10:16
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oerheks!info rails xenial10:19
ubotturails (source: rails): MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 2:4.2.6-1 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 34 kB10:19
oerhekswe are @ 2.4 now..10:19
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maneoerheks: not talking about rauils, talking about ruby10:44
qswzbest way to install emoji support on ubuntu?10:49
qswzplease10:49
sirru5hqswz, what version of Ubuntu are you using?10:52
mane!info ruby xenial10:52
ubotturuby (source: ruby-defaults): Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0+1 (xenial), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB10:53
qswzeek ruby10:56
qswznodejs is the future10:56
qswzsirru5h: latest10:56
qswz17.0410:57
sirru5hokay give me a second10:57
qswzI rememeber having configured NotoEmoji before10:57
qswzNotoColorEmoji, I still have the zip, but I'd prefer something more standard10:58
sirru5hhttps://launchpad.net/~eosrei/+archive/ubuntu/fonts10:59
soona web-page drop down menu (.aspx#) will not open i FF 55 or in Chromium on my Ubuntu box, nor in FF on a Win7 box -- it only opens in IE on the Win7 box11:00
sirru5hqswz, did you give https://launchpad.net/~eosrei/+archive/ubuntu/fonts a look?11:03
sirru5hit does seem that there maybe a few emoji fonts out there11:05
qswzthanks , checking it11:10
sirru5hExcellnt hope it helps11:11
qswzoh that's emojione?11:11
qswzyes I tried it, but on several webpages it was nasty, it displayed numbers with emojis, where it shouldn't11:12
qswzlet me test it tho11:12
sirru5hAre you looking for emojione?11:13
qswzhmm I restarted chrome, doesn't work yet, when visiting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Unicode_blocks11:15
sirru5hokay give me a second11:16
qswzI could try to reboot11:16
qswzyea, one min11:16
sirru5hOnly Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird currently support the SVG-in-OpenType font11:16
sirru5hformat required to display these fonts in color. All other applications will11:16
sirru5hdisplay11:16
sirru5hokay11:17
qswznah, still showing rectangled11:18
qswzrectangles, in place of emojis11:18
qswz🦎 this hshould be a lizard, I don't see it yet :(11:19
qswz(on irssi too)11:19
sirru5humm it seems that those fonts work for firefox11:21
sirru5hand thunderbird11:21
sirru5hqswz, check if it works in there mate11:22
qswznot working on FF here11:22
oerheksthe ppa version works fine, indeed11:22
oerhekshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/emoji-one-font-linux-ppa-easy-install11:22
qswzah, I"m idiot11:25
qswzdidn't install11:25
sirru5hWell I gotta get going cya every one good luck qswz11:25
qswzok thx11:29
qswzworks 11:32
AristideHello !11:35
ddybingHi there11:35
AristideI have a problem with Compiz on « decor » module, he don't want to load :11:35
Aristidehttps://pastebin.com/YrTmFpLE11:35
AristideI have with many « window decorator » , including /usr/bin/compiz-decorator,11:35
AristideI get : /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Debug: Trying to load decor from: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/compiz/libdecor.so11:36
Aristide/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Debug: dlopen failed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/compiz/libdecor.so: undefined symbol: decor_window_property11:36
BendrHi, my screen is flickering, i just upgraded the kernel to 4.12 and the problem is still11:39
Bendrany help?11:41
ams__oerheks: sorry got distracted, rather i want it to integrate with keyring. So I login to keyring and it decrypts.11:53
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SimonNL_Afkgoing to work myself warm11:59
BluesKajHiyas all12:13
neurehi12:22
neurehow do i add a clock to my desktop?12:22
donofrioneure, what desktop do you use (I'm xfce4 fwiw)12:28
codecutteri have renewed the ssl certificate 'sudo certbot renew' but i'm still getting "Your connection is not safe" when I go to the site12:48
ikoniacertbot ?12:49
codecuttersee here https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/renew-letsencrypt-certificate/34677/212:49
ikoniaso it's not really an ubuntu issue it, an issue with the letsencrypt tooling12:50
codecutterwell, i was hoping an ubuntu admin will know12:50
ikoniaknow what ?12:51
ikoniaI'm not sure what you're asking beyond "why does certbot not work"12:51
ikoniain which case, talking to letsencrypt support would be the way forward12:51
ikoniathe tool isn't provided from ubuntus repos is it ?12:51
ikonia(I can't see it in there)12:51
codecuttercertbot certificates seems to suggest its renewed12:52
codecutterExpiry Date: 2017-11-14 11:31:00+00:00 (VALID: 47 days)12:52
codecutter...12:52
ikoniathe tool doesn't come from ubuntu's repos does it ?12:52
codecutteri may have installed when i was setting it all up12:52
ikoniawhere did it come from ?12:53
ikonia(the tool)12:53
codecutterlook the point is, it's renwed, forget about that tool.12:53
codecutterit did its jobs12:53
codecutterwell it seems to have12:53
ikoniano12:53
codecutter.... Expiry Date: 2017-11-14 11:31:00+00:00 (VALID: 47 days)12:54
ikoniathe point is - where did the tool that is managing your certificate come from ?12:54
codecutteranyone else around?12:54
ikoniacodecutter: answer the question12:54
codecutteri already have12:54
ikoniathis didn't come from the ubuntu repos (I can't see it - so I'm assuming it didn't)12:54
ikoniawhere did it come from ?12:54
ikonialetsencypt directly ? a ppa ?12:55
codecutter<codecutter>i may have installed when i was setting it all up12:55
ikoniainstalled it from where ?12:55
codecutterprobably one of these sources, can't remember12:55
ikoniaok - so if your http service is pointing at the cert that this tool manages and it's saying it's invalid, it's not going to be ubuntu's issue12:56
ikoniait's going to be the way this tool is managing the cert12:56
ikoniaif it's not pointing at that cert, then you're config is wrong12:56
codecutterhere https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-nginx-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-16-0412:57
codecutterwas following this ^^12:57
ikonianot asking for a tutorial12:57
codecutterwhen i set it all up12:57
ikoniaso either a.) engage with letsencypt to look up at the tool - or b.) digitalocean to find out why that tutorial isn't working12:58
ikoniait's not really an ubuntu issue12:58
codecutterok12:58
oerheksdid you restart nginx?12:59
oerheks'sudo systemctl reload nginx' does not drop current connections12:59
oerheks.. or maybe that is bad, old cert.13:00
codecutteroerheks: that did it13:02
codecutterthanks, man13:02
codecutter:)13:02
codecutteri had to reload nginx13:02
oerhekshave fun!13:02
oerheksnext time mention nginx with your support issue, that could have helped.13:02
codecutterok, cool13:03
francisvHi.  I use Ubuntu zesty.  I would like to index the filenames of a directory, so I can find them by typing the names in the main search box.13:05
francisvAny recommended tool or how to configure that?13:08
francisvI have added the directory in the search settings13:08
francisvbut nothing happens13:08
francisvI mean, no results from the files I have in that directory13:08
oerheksfrancisv, simply add the folder to your $PATH https://askubuntu.com/questions/141718/what-is-the-path-environment-variable-and-how-do-i-add-to-it13:09
francisvoerheks: the directory has documents, PDF and such.13:10
francisvI have a directory with a bunch of PDFs.  I just want to type the filename in the search box, and I want Ubuntu to find it.13:11
francisvJust as the spotlight in macOS does.13:11
oerheksfrancisv, that would do that, all i miss is "logout/login to take effect or run in terminal . ~/.profile "13:12
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francisvOk, I'll try that.  Although I don't see the use of "All Settings -> Search -> Search Locations"13:13
[worksti]i want to run a command, and after it prints something, i want to send the command to the background (as if i'd started it with a trailing &). is there anything like that already in linux/ubuntu/bash ?13:21
geirhaHit Ctrl+Z then run bg13:28
EriC^^[worksti]: there's the program "expect"13:28
EriC^^if you want something programmatic13:29
lEnn1What is the best program to edit dwg?13:30
[worksti]ill read up on that, thanks, yeah, its for a jenkins CI job13:30
geirha[worksti]: then it sounds like an XYproblem13:30
[worksti]geirha: : then let me elaborate: im starting a server, i want it to go to the background, but i dont want to start running the tests until the server finished starting up13:41
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geirha[worksti]: in that case I'd start the server in the background, and then poll it somehow. E.g. if it listens on a port, try connecting to that port for 30 seconds or something13:42
SimonNL_Afklaterz13:42
SimonissimoI'm looking for a command line setup tutorial for ubuntu, the things I'm finding are referencing wpa_supplicant.conf.. which isn't on my fresh install of ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS13:43
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[worksti]geirha: i went the other way - the server prints out when its finished starting, so i just redirect to a file, send it to the background, and wait with tail for the line to appear in the file13:46
Scoop7Hello I want to make an alias for chrome . Where is chrome located in ubuntu 16.04 ?13:59
geirha''type google-chrome''14:00
mrigHello14:00
mrigDoes anyone have any idea how I can start a wacom driver and control panel whilst using i3-wm with ubuntu?14:01
mrigWorks fine from within the unity desktop environment, it would be nice to be able to start it from the terminal too.14:02
Scoop7https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/04/headless-chrome  <-- anyone tried this? I can make this work14:03
Scoop7google-chrome  http://example.com --headles --disable-gpu  <-- doesn't work14:04
Scoop7[0927/170259.713074:ERROR:headless_shell.cc(132)] Navigation to  failed14:04
jink--headles or --headless ?14:05
jinkAnd you might need to put the url at the end.14:05
jinkOther than that: no, I haven't tried.14:05
Scoop7in my original command was --headless14:07
Scoop7will try14:07
d_ven0mQuick question: After running "echo -n foo > bar", running "cat bar" results in "foo%" being output. I'm sorry for asking such a dumb question, but what is the "%"?14:08
jinkIt's a "no end of line" indicator.14:08
d_ven0mAaaah14:09
d_ven0mThank you very much14:09
jinkIt can either do:  "foouser@host" or "foo%\nuser@host"  where it does output a newline, but needs a mechanism to tell you it's not actually there.14:09
d_ven0mI tried googling it, but my results came up with other shell stuff relating to "%"14:10
d_ven0mThank you @jink14:10
jinknp14:10
mrigAny idea how to find the name of the service?14:12
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corn_flakeshi14:26
corn_flakescan i ask you help about an old version of ubuntu?14:26
kostkoncorn_flakes, depends whether it is eol or not14:27
corn_flakeskostkon, 12.0414:27
FatalNIXwhat package is the 'no' command found?14:28
FatalNIXgoogle gets confused14:28
kostkon!precise | corn_flakes14:28
ubottucorn_flakes: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) was the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 28th 2017. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2017-April/003833.html for more information14:28
oerheksThat surely is an old version .. 'no command found' is given by bash14:28
corn_flakeskostkon, so, i can't ask?14:29
kostkoncorn_flakes, no, support for it has ended as you can see14:29
FatalNIXwtf lol14:34
oerheksno need for that language, FatalNIX14:35
FatalNIXoerheks: certainly is :) It doesn't say what you think :)14:37
FatalNIXIf looking carefully, you might be inclined to think that maybe I said, "Well This is Fun" for example.14:41
FatalNIXwhich is what I said14:41
oerheksYou have just been warned, FatalNIX, reed the code of conduct.14:41
FatalNIXI did, I said well this is fun, because so far I have found it impossible to get google to even narrow down the 'no' command, because no matter what I type and what google tricks I use, I can't get away from it giving me "no command found" results and things. It's actually quite amusing.14:44
musabiYou are upsetting oerheks, FatalNIX.14:45
mrigShould I perhaps ask in #gnome for for this, wondering who to address this problem too14:46
mrigI have the command to open the gnome-control-center but there is nothing running ...14:46
leftyfbFatalNIX: there is no "no" command that I can find available in any packages. What makes you think there is one?14:47
FatalNIXI've been trying to get this script to work that came with some code to build, at first, I thought maybe it just does what 'yes' does, but it had an argument I don't recognize.14:48
FatalNIXhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GubPwBD1/14:50
leftyfbFatalNIX: there is no binary available in any of the official packages called "no". If you're looking to answer questions of <command> with no automatically, try 'yes no | <command>' or 'echo "no" | command'14:50
FatalNIXwoops, well- it's used in that context^14:50
FatalNIXleftyfb: exactly that's what I figured14:50
admin0i setup MaaS and it shows the single disk in the system .. during deploy it says something like:   Logical volume "root", swap  created .. and then borks with   [Errno 6] No such device or address: '/dev/sda2'14:50
admin0where is the disk layout/kickstart for MaaS stored14:51
leftyfbFatalNIX: I don't think your script is intending to answer "no". I feel it might be written incorrectly.14:51
leftyfbadmin0: try #maas14:51
FatalNIXleftyfb: it's pssible, though I find it hard to believe he didn't test it on something... could be wrong15:01
FatalNIXleftyfb: I have a feeling that it may be a shell command for some weird shell he uses15:02
leftyfbFatalNIX: doubt it, but sure. Contact the developer for further help with it15:03
FatalNIXI'll do that15:04
avrdudeHey, i have some issues with my wifi. Suddenly my wifi icon was showing up and down arrows, but i dont even have an ethernet port. I restarted the network-manager, but now every time i connect to my home wifi it creates a new network15:16
avrdudei have now network1, network2, etc, and i have to enter the wifi password each time.. its a bit annoying15:17
avrdudei use 16.0415:17
bounce_I'm on an xubuntu live CD, trying to copy a few .pdf's from this laptop's /home partition to a micro SD, but I keep getting "error opening file, permission denied" even though I'm running the file manager in root "15:17
bounce_I've been able to do other stuff, like copy or save files TO the partition, I just can't copy these .pdf's out for some reason15:18
bounce_nvm, only had one of the file manager windows open in root, my bad15:19
qswzdamnit, microphone not working for an interview, had to switch to windoze15:20
qswzLenovo..15:20
lEnn1try to mount the partition manually15:22
skinuxDoes latest Ubuntu need SWAP partition?15:24
EriC^^skinux: no i uses a swap file15:24
skinuxOkay.15:24
skinuxAlso, is there still a free product for "building" your own Ubuntu?15:25
skinuxThere used to be one for Windows, does it still exist?15:25
kiromaHey, I have a problem with copying large directories off external USB HDD. After copying a few files it stops being detected by the system and acts as if it was disconnected manually, even though LED indicator is still on15:25
oerheksskinux, uck is dead, but there is an alternative cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image15:26
pavlosskinux: if you mean customizing, there is uck (ubuntu customization kit15:26
ghost-287hello, is there any sony vegas alternative in linux ?15:26
oerheksbut building 'your own ubuntu'means remove all branded items :-D15:26
oerhekspavlos, that is a dead project15:26
kiromaghost-287: Try kdenlive15:26
ghost-287kiroma, ty, i ll try it15:27
kiromaAlso MTP transfer fails on occasion. Does anyone know what might cause it?15:27
skinuxDoes installation still require disabling of EFI Secure Boot?15:29
oerheksghost-287, tons of them , openshot is my choise https://alternativeto.net/software/sony-vegas/?platform=linux15:29
oerheksskinux, no, see the uefi manual15:29
oerheks!uefi15:29
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:29
oerheksjust disable fastboot and the intel security stuff, details on that same page15:30
skinuxNevermind. Ubuntu documentation answered, Windows is installed using EFI, so Ubuntu must be as well.15:30
qswz!bios15:34
skinuxHrm. The same USB stick I used the last time, isn't coming up at all, even after I set USB to be the first item in boot order.15:38
justPieHey all, running into a strange issue. Whenever i use 'sudo' it changes the permissions to root:root.15:39
justPieAny idea on what might be causing it?15:39
oerheksjustPie, sudo. with sudo + command, you obtain root rights.15:39
justPiebut it shouldn't chown the file, right?15:40
jerit will yes15:40
jerbecause you're root for that command15:40
oerhekssure it does, you tells it to.15:40
jerthe command is executed with uid 0 -- root15:40
jertherefore default ownership of any file created with be associated with the uid and gid that the process is run with (if the process hasn't changed it itself) -- uid 0, gid 015:40
justPieinteresting. Wasn't aware of that15:41
justPieSo doing sudo atom and then editing a project is a bad idea15:41
justPieatom being a IDE15:41
jernow some processes might execute as root, to say, acquire a low port (< 1024) and then after that, change their owning uid to something like nobody15:41
jerbut i'm guessing your process doesn't do that :)15:41
jerah yes, sudo'ng any command that you don't explicitly need to for, is a silly idea15:41
glitsj16justPie: yep, 2 issues with that.. one you encountered relating to permissions, another is never use sudo with anything GUI.. use pkexec for that15:43
justPiei really need to brush up on my linux, apparently. :D thanks guys/girls!15:44
capella"sudo" ... hit it with the biggest hammer :)15:50
ghost-287oerheks, with openshot i think we cant blur a small zone of a video :/15:59
EriC^^ghost-287: sure you can16:02
EriC^^you can overlay stuff on top of eachother but they have to be in separate layers, and i think the top ones overlay the lower ones or viceversa (the order in the list matters)16:02
oerheksmasking, a standard tool in openshot .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Ls7YPqsOE&feature=youtu.be16:03
ghost-287EriC^^, i tried to import the blue effect to the timezone (like in camtasia ) but it blur all the image :p16:03
ghost-287i ll try ur idea16:03
oerheksand the page of the video http://www.openshotvideo.com/2009/07/advanced-masking-transitions.html16:03
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mrigquit16:14
jerwhere can i turn off core dump files? i'm rarely interested in them, and for the times i am, usually they're reproduceable so i can just turn them back on then =]16:15
trangarIf I want to use libclang 5, and it's not in apt, does that mean I have to compile it from source?16:15
jerah i see it in ulimit nm16:16
abedhello16:16
jertrangar, yes, or find an apt repo that has it that you trust16:16
genii_trangar: You might try http://apt.llvm.org/16:21
genii_The usual dire warnings about external repositories, etc etc16:22
trangarI think this is the only C++ project in the world that's easier to set up on windows than on linux16:23
DevilTigeris this valid shell script to download a file? wget http://domain.com/file.ext16:23
DevilTigerwhen i run that in the console it does it fine. inside script.sh it fails16:23
EriC^^DevilTiger: fails how16:24
DevilTiger400 bad response. seems to be because its adding %0D at the end of the URL16:25
EriC^^try quoting the url16:25
DevilTigersame16:25
genii_DevilTiger: Use an editor that doesn't add extraneous carriage return/linefeeds16:26
DevilTigeri was using sublime. just did it with nano, same result16:33
DevilTigerhttps://gist.github.com/lnorton89/9aa0b50c9580c7bf2f0253f4e287597116:34
DevilTigerremaking the file from scratch using nano worked. damn windows!!16:35
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avrdudedoes anyone know why my wifi keeps creating a new network whenever i connect to my wifi?17:00
avrdudeconsequently i have to enter the password each time i connect to my wifi17:00
royal_screwup21what17:07
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memo1l17:21
mrigHello, can anyone lend a hand in finding out how to start a gnome application that is not running when I am not in the ubuntu desktop environment?17:47
nicomachuscan someone help me to figure out what these sensors are that are showing alarms? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25628328/17:48
nicomachusthere are some concerning voltages there...17:48
mrigWhen I call the program as in the .desktop file it is not opening, I am guessing that it is missing some process that must be started first.17:49
oerheksnicomachus, in1 in5 and 6 seems to be underpowerd,.. did you overclock the mobo?17:50
nicomachusoerheks: nope.17:50
nicomachuswhat are in1, in5, and in6?17:50
nicomachusthere doesn't seem to be any way to see what those are.17:52
oerheksnicomachus, not sure, but those are power-inputs in the cpu or chipset ?17:54
nicomachusI assume the chipset.17:54
nicomachusthere's the one thermistor that's showing a high temp, and judging from my research here, thermistor's regular current through temperature. so maybe the high temp is causing the voltages to be off?17:56
oerhekscould well be a powersupply issue .. check the mobo for those round cubes, are they bold up/yellow stuff popping out?17:57
nicomachuss/regular/regulate/17:57
nicomachusthis PC is at home, I'm checking the sensors over SSH.17:57
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nicomachusI'll take a look at it later tonight and see if there's any visual damage.17:57
oerheksodd values indeed..17:58
nicomachusI just wish I could figure out what those "in1, in4" etc are18:00
JurgentjeHi, I'm running/testing aardvark. After rebooting (and upgrades) this afternoon, I now can't log into my X screen. Terminal login works just fine18:11
zarzar2does ubuntu have openssl 1.1.0 package yet?18:11
Jurgentjeanyone knows how I should start debugging this? (what logs to read)18:11
naccJurgentje: you want #ubuntu+118:11
nacczarzar2: non18:11
nacc*no18:11
qswzsomeone know if Docker-EE is free?18:15
qswzhttps://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/docker-ee/ubuntu/#install-docker-ee they mention curl -fsSL <DOCKER-EE-URL>/ubuntu/gpg | sudo apt-key add - , but what is that EE-URL?18:16
naccqswz: wouldn't that be  question for docker?18:17
nchambershttps://www.docker.com/enterprise-edition18:17
qswzbah I doubt #docker would be active18:17
nchambersthey're very active18:17
qswzoh lots of ppl there18:17
qswzyea thanks18:17
qswzthanks, I'll start a trial for now18:18
alkisgUbuntu announced that they drop the 32bit .iso in 17.10. Does this affect other flavors like ubuntu-mate or lubuntu?18:20
alkisgAh ok just saw the reply by iain, "other flavours are unaffected"18:21
SimonNL_Afknicomachus: does this provide you any in-site   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man5/sensors.conf.5.html18:22
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JorJeHey!18:41
JorJeI have a question. If PC1 and PC2 are working on Ubuntu 16.04 and are connected on the same local network, can I remotely open a Guest session on PC2 knowing it's ip address, maybe by using ssh from PC1 ? How can it be done ?18:42
nfshrHi all! very weird question: would there be any way to get in contact w/ the creator of the Hardy Heron (8.04) theme-creator? In fact looking for a higher resolution version of the heron wallpaper w/o the Heron18:43
nfshrI love that wallpaper and rock it basically ever since :) unfortunately though, screen resolution evolved, obviously :)18:45
ghost-287wine cant run files that have more than 200mb?18:46
ghost-287i would like to install Camtasia (for its good simple and easy to use  video editor)18:46
ghost-287but i got this message error : https://dpaste.de/HDCT18:46
naccJorJe: why wouldn't you just ssh to PC2? Or do you mean you don't have routing directly to it?18:48
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naccJorJe: and yes, you can, in newer ssh there is -J and in older ssh there is ProxyCommand18:49
JorJeYeah, I don't have routing directly to it!18:50
almostdvsnfshr: is it not available in svg?18:50
nfshralmostdvs, not to my knowledge.. is it?18:50
nfshralmostdvs, to my knowledge it wasn't shipped with a svg-version18:51
nfshram looking for this version: https://imgur.com/zrpbGIM18:53
almostdvsnfshr: It's been forever since I looked at this stuff, but you used to be able to download all of the source design elements if you were interested in contributing to the design18:53
naccJorJe: ok, research the options i suggested18:54
nfshralmostdvs, any idea whether these sources still exist and would be accessible somewhere?18:55
almostdvsnfshr: poke around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy18:55
JorJenacc: Actually, one can do ssh UserPC2@ipaddressPC2 then enter the password of User2. Is it possible to do ssh Guest@ipaddressPC2 and open remotely a guest session on the OS of PC2 without being asked for a password.19:03
jellywhich release of ubuntu had (or has) apt 1.2.24?19:05
nfshralmostdvs, found the main (w/ the Heron) as svg, but could not discern the author for the version w/o the Heron. Not available on the page, unfortunately19:05
jellytrying to figure out what a confused user in #debian has installed and where to point them to19:05
ioria!info apt xenial19:06
ubottuapt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.2.24 (xenial), package size 1037 kB, installed size 3315 kB19:06
almostdvsnfshr: you can probably just delete the heron elements in inkscape and export the png you want19:06
nfshralmostdvs, thought about that, but it overlays some other elements which would then probably come out awkward, but will have a look at it19:07
ioriajelly, probably he disabled xenial-updates19:08
oynfshr: I made this wp, that has some utility https://imgur.com/a/0BskR19:08
stevessssso.. I waint to raid1 my boot drive which has a 2TB SSD(expensive),  and a 2TB spinning dive as a redundant copy.. I want 90% of my read and write to go to my ssd first for performance reasons and my 2TB regular drive to just be backup.19:08
scootergrisenDo anyone know how long before ubuntu is released with gnome as default?19:08
stevessssis there a raid setup for this?19:08
stevessssmaybe 2 drive raid1 and a bcache ssd device is better?19:09
nfshroy, hah, nice :)19:09
kenrinyes disk cache would work better19:09
stevessssmaybe 500GB ssd and dual 6TB hdd's in raid1 would be ideal for safety and speed.19:09
stevessss500gb pcie ssd would have the top of line performance, and dual 6TB raid1 device wouold provide big data capability.19:10
nfshralmostdvs, lol, the Heron was indeed one element that would easily be erased, thx man!19:11
almostdvsnfshr: awesome!  you should post it somewhere19:11
kenrinI don't think you would even need that big of a SSD19:11
stevessss12TB drive3 is now 446 so buying multiple 6TB's and using raid5 or raidz1 makes more sense, but not sure zfs is liked as a root drive system.19:11
nfshralmostdvs, where though?19:11
almostdvsnfshr: gnome-look?19:12
nfshralmostdvs, true....19:12
almostdvsor reddit19:13
tgm4883scootergrisen: about a month19:13
scootergrisencool thanks19:13
scootergrisenI wanted to make sure everthing is translated19:13
sortahello. I installed a had a working 2 drive setup, and installed a new drive. the new drive has a lower sata port number than my old boot drive. BIOS launches the correct boot loader, however OS load fails as /dev/sda is now the new, empty drive. how do i correct the order of /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc?19:15
ikoniasorta: that shouldn't matter19:16
ikoniasorta: it should be referencing UUID'19:16
ikoniawhat part of the boot is failing and what version of ubuntu ?19:16
sortai've dropped into recovery console, and xenial19:17
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ikoniasorta: what part of the boot process is failing19:18
sortagrub loads, i select ubuntu, i get the maroon screen, eventually it fails with "emergency mode!" with some instructions to control-D to attempt to resume normal boot19:19
ikoniasorta: so the fact that it starts to boot suggests grub is fine and the kernel is booting, it's most likley your file system is pointing at the wrong device19:19
ikoniasorta: look in /etc/fstab and see if that matches what you currently have19:19
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nfshralmostdvs, up. https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/72umtz/the_good_old_hardy_heron_ubuntu_804_wallpaper_wo/?ref=share&ref_source=link19:23
scatterpcan anyone tell me why line 11 is never executed when i do bash step1.sh contents here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25628799/19:24
ioriasorta, if you have a shell (recov) run sudo blkid  and re-check fstab and dmesg | grep  ata[0-9]  will show your ata dev19:24
sortaah, i do have a non-UUID entry in /etc/fstab, fixing that19:25
ikoniascatterp: your execing a shell19:25
ikoniascatterp: it won't go passed that line until the shell exits19:25
ikoniado the other steps after 11 get executed ?19:25
ikoniaalso curl | sudo bash .....very bad19:26
ioriasorta, on recov you need to remount r/w or will be pointless19:28
scatterpikonia how can i proceed then i am trying to make an installer for this readme https://github.com/peatio/peatio/blob/master/README.md19:28
ikoniascatterp: why do you keep exec'ing shell19:30
scatterpikonia just following the readme ..19:30
scatterpnot sure why they do that19:30
ikoniascatterp: that readme you pasted doesn't say exec shell once19:31
ikoniascatterp: and if you want to do an installer for this package it properly, that script you are writing is VERY bad with curls being piped into privileged shells19:31
ikoniascatterp: I assume you mean you're following this terrible guide https://github.com/peatio/peatio/blob/master/doc/setup-local-ubuntu.md19:32
oerheks1 good sentence:  If you don't known how to make your exchange secure, hire an expert.19:33
nfshralmostdvs, subreddit would disab19:33
nfshralmostdvs, ..disapprove due to unsupported imagehoster.. will try again in the future, feel free to share: http://svgur.com/s/3Af19:34
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scatterpikonia yes the deploy version sorry i pasted the wrong url19:35
scatterpikonia https://github.com/peatio/peatio/blob/master/doc/deploy-production-server.md19:35
ikoniascatterp: no problem, the professional answer is to package that lot up and build proper dependencies, but that is a lot of work19:35
ikoniascatterp: sadly that whole install process is a disaster and I wouldn't touch it personally19:35
scatterpscatterp yeah i am not familiar with how to make a ubuntu package so all i can do is make some kind of batch script for now to make installing an easier process19:36
scatterpin the future its possible i could make a proper package19:36
ikoniascatterp: it's probably unrealistic to build a package19:36
ikoniadue to the shocking dependencies19:36
scatterpyeah19:37
scatterpso what do you suggest is a bash script an option ?19:37
ikoniascatterp: I suggest you don't use that product honestly19:39
ikoniascatterp: if you want to script it - script it, but that install guide is bad, and has too many dangerous commands and manual steps19:40
ikoniaup to you19:40
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scatterpi will pull later the curl stuff over so its safer i guess19:43
scootergrisenAre there any prerelease/alpha/beta/test ISO's with Ubuntu that has GNOME? So i can test translations before final release?19:51
tgm4883!ubuntu+1 | scootergrisen19:51
ubottuscootergrisen: Artful Aardvark is the codename for Ubuntu 17.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+119:51
scatterpnice name :)19:51
scootergrisenWho me?19:53
sortahow do i find the fstab format UUID for drives? hwinfo --disk shows UUID in a... base64 format?19:53
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Richard_Cavell_Is there any work being done on 18.04 right now or is it too early?19:55
Richard_Cavell_I'm on 16.04 but I'm a little unhappy that some packages are too old19:56
Ben64Richard_Cavell_: it's 2 releases away so no19:56
LoshkiRichard_Cavell_: 16.04 is an LTS stability release. It deliberately avoids the latest and greatest in favor of stability.19:58
naccsorta: `lsblk --fs` i think?20:00
sortaalright fixed my /etc/fstab20:01
sortathakns all20:01
sortanext question, ctrl+alt+f1 seems broken, I don't get a tty1, it just shows a graphical glitch with a small maroon bar and a few loading dots20:02
oerhekstty1 would be single user, try ctrl alt F220:04
naccand i think on tty1, you might be able to see the 'console' by hitting escape. But I am not sure, and if you want a login console you want tty2 anyways, I thinkn20:05
reynirshit20:06
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ArMedicWhen placing linux on a usb...one of my computers will boot from the live usb and everything runs fine.  This one however wants to boot a minimal screen with a grub> screen...20:48
ArMedicBoth laptops are identical..20:48
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Ben64ArMedic: obviously not identical20:50
oerheksobvious different bios settings20:50
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ArMediclol20:52
ArMedicI was just meaning hardware, etc, was the same.20:52
reynirmaybe one of the laptops is insane20:57
ArMedicpossible20:57
zambawhich filesystem do you recommend for a large data volume?21:15
zamba8 TB21:15
zambawe'd rather avoid having to perform disk checks21:15
ikoniait's not as black and white as big disk21:17
ikoniaresearch the user cases and what file system meets those requirements21:17
reyniris zfs an option21:19
zambait's for an ftp server21:19
zambaso generally one write and one read of the same data block21:19
Loshkizamba: if you've no idea, start with ext4. Stable, well-documented, widely available.21:25
LoshkiOh, and journalled.21:26
oerhekswe all try to avoid diskchecks, but s.m.a.r.t. we do21:27
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dupolasi am looking for an app like simplenote, but then one fully operational with keyboard shortcuts21:58
naccdupolas: https://github.com/insanum/sncli ? (first hit on google for 'simplenote cli'21:59
dupolasthanks @nacc - i was thinking a gui version, but this awesome cli tool makes me happy too (with vim bindings :) )22:13
naccdupolas: :)22:16
b0nnI have a system that Ithought was wily, but it seems it may have been tahr; I discovered this because I tried to upgrade to Xenial, but am having difficulty because libc needs a more current kernel. I want to know, now that I have got the system in a bit of a mess, how do I 'upgrade' it to wily, such that I can then upgrade it to xwnial?22:16
naccb0nn: how did you try to upgrade?22:17
b0nnchanged sources.lst to xenial, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade22:17
naccb0nn: yeah don't do that22:17
naccb0nn: do-release-upgrade22:18
naccb0nn: if your system is not completely messed up at this point, try that22:18
naccb0nn: if it is, reinstall22:18
b0nnnot a command22:19
b0nnI think I'd have to install update-manager-core first22:20
b0nnBut, to do that I need to get around the broken dpkg22:20
naccb0nn: ah22:20
naccb0nn: what is the current dpkg error?22:21
b0nnhttps://bpaste.net/show/851fe7e3bb4d22:27
b0nnand https://bpaste.net/show/9db4d2cf235722:32
b0nnFrom there it just hangs22:33
naccb0nn: sorry, i don't have time to unravel that -- tbh, it's probably just as fast to reinstall22:38
b0nnhm, I'm reluctant to reinstall because it's a VPS, but I hear you22:39
naccb0nn: is it an important VPS?22:39
naccb0nn: feels like if it was, you wouldn't have upgraded it in the first place :)22:39
naccb0nn: trash it and spin up a new one22:40
b0nnHeh, I'm just going through my mind if I should do that22:40
b0nnI'll have to bring /home to another machine, and /var/www; other than that I think it's vanilla22:40
naccb0nn: sounds like a good time to come up with a reasonable backup strategy22:41
b0nnpffft nobody backs up :)22:41
b0nnthanks though,I'll have a good think about what I want to do then act accordingly22:42
naccb0nn: gl!22:42
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xzhi there, I 'm using pretty standard keyboard HP KU-0316 over USB3.0 port. Unfortunately keyboard doesn't operate when connected through USB3.0 hub, only directly. Any recommendations?23:29
xzI also have mouse on the very same USB 3.0 hub and the mouse works perfectly23:30
johnjHi.  Can someone help me get sound working?  "aplay -l" lists a ALC1220 device that I'd like to use, but I think my PulseAudio is broken.23:41
xzif I use USB2.0 hub instead, then everything is fine with the keyboard. Wondering if it's Ubuntu thing or some hardware problem23:41
johnjAh, nevermind.  I think I know what to do.23:48
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