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| Guest24493 | hi | 01:12 |
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| Guest24493 | can someone help me | 01:12 |
| Guest24493 | am trying | 01:12 |
| Guest24493 | to solce a problem | 01:12 |
| bazhang | ask | 01:16 |
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| glitchd | is there a way to update only the kernel? im using xubuntu 16.04.3, and the latest kernel is 4.10 and my system is running kernel 4.4.0-96. | 21:51 |
| bazhang | glitchd, checked the mainline yet | 22:02 |
| glitchd | bazhang, huh? | 22:11 |
| bazhang | !mainline > glitchd | 22:12 |
| ubottu | glitchd, please see my private message | 22:12 |
| glitchd | i see the msg, but dont clearly understand it | 22:15 |
| bazhang | The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel | 22:17 |
| bazhang | so you want a more recent kernel to test with | 22:18 |
| bazhang | correct or no | 22:18 |
| glitchd | i was thinking that i might be a good thing to update the kernel since it seems to be a few releases behind already, with it being 4.4.0-96 and the kernel release being somewhere around 4.10 already | 22:19 |
| glitchd | but if its not suggested, then ill just skip doing that. | 22:19 |
| bazhang | !info linux-image-generic aardvark | 22:20 |
| ubottu | 'aardvark' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, y | 22:20 |
| bazhang | !info linux-image-generic artful | 22:21 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.12.13 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB | 22:21 |
| bazhang | 4.13.0.12.13 | 22:21 |
| bazhang | thats from the soon to be released next version | 22:21 |
| bazhang | 17.10 | 22:21 |
| glitchd | yea i have so many things setup on this install that i dont want to reinstall atm, so i probably wont be upgrading to 17.10. | 22:23 |
| glitchd | thats the one thing i dont like about ubuntu. | 22:24 |
| bazhang | just a fyi | 22:24 |
| glitchd | right on | 22:24 |
| glitchd | so would you say its a good idea to upgrade the kernel on this install, or not? | 22:28 |
| bazhang | you want stable or not | 22:29 |
| glitchd | i just want less system hangs tbh | 22:29 |
| glitchd | thought this would be a good/possible solution | 22:29 |
| bazhang | is there any evidence gambling on a more recent kernel is going to do that | 22:29 |
| glitchd | not that i can provide | 22:30 |
| bazhang | 'system hangs' | 22:30 |
| bazhang | doing what, when, how | 22:30 |
| glitchd | if i open a few applications the system slows to a crawl and stops responding for a period of time | 22:31 |
| bazhang | whats the ram, which apps | 22:31 |
| glitchd | 8gb ram, i think i have 4gb swap, and app id say it would be chromium with maybe 4-5 tabs open, a terminal, and a thunar browser. | 22:32 |
| bazhang | in top whats the biggest hog | 22:33 |
| glitchd | when i check the task manager itll show like 10-15% cpu usage and high memory usage with like 17% swap usage | 22:33 |
| glitchd | but the system is unresponsive | 22:33 |
| bazhang | yes, what about top | 22:34 |
| bazhang | which is eating the most | 22:34 |
| glitchd | ill have to check the next time its happening | 22:34 |
| bazhang | hsve you tried a much lighter de | 22:35 |
| glitchd | thought xfce was a pretty light dm, compared to unity or the like | 22:35 |
| bazhang | not so much | 22:35 |
| glitchd | not a fan of gnome, or unity, and im away that there are a good amount more | 22:36 |
| glitchd | i prefer to stay where im comfortable | 22:36 |
| bazhang | I have a 12 yr old thinkpad with just 2gb that runs gnome3 fine | 22:36 |
| glitchd | ive used xfce for a long while and am pretty familiar with it | 22:36 |
| glitchd | ive always had serious speed issues with gnome | 22:36 |
| glitchd | across several different laptops | 22:36 |
| glitchd | most of the laptop had 8 gb ram too | 22:37 |
| bazhang | well, this is purely for troubleshooting purposes | 22:37 |
| glitchd | ok? | 22:37 |
| bazhang | to eliminate eash possible cause, step by step | 22:37 |
| glitchd | ok? | 22:37 |
| bazhang | these are merely suggestions to your 'system hangs/speed issues' | 22:38 |
| glitchd | are you suggesting something, because you lost me.. | 22:38 |
| bazhang | yes | 22:39 |
| bazhang | try a different DE | 22:39 |
| glitchd | youre suggesting gnome3? | 22:39 |
| bazhang | lighter | 22:39 |
| bazhang | lxde/opnbox | 22:39 |
| glitchd | never like the look of openbox tbh | 22:39 |
| glitchd | id like to try and stay in xfce if possible | 22:40 |
| glitchd | not sure if lxde can or will run xfce | 22:40 |
| glitchd | or if im even thinking about this the right way.. | 22:40 |
| bazhang | they are both DE how could they | 22:40 |
| glitchd | like is said in my last response.. | 22:40 |
| bazhang | no one is suggesting you completely abandon xfce4 | 22:41 |
| bazhang | a simple login to the diferent DE | 22:41 |
| glitchd | ohhh...lol | 22:41 |
| bazhang | same machine, sfce still there | 22:42 |
| bazhang | xfce | 22:42 |
| glitchd | rightright | 22:42 |
| glitchd | ill have to give it a try i suppose | 22:42 |
| bazhang | clearly there are serious issues if you hvae 8gb and xfce runs slow and hangs | 22:43 |
| glitchd | thats what i was thinking | 22:43 |
| bazhang | I am suggesting the most basic of troubleshooting tips, yet you seem hesitant to even try the very first | 22:44 |
| bazhang | I wont push it any further | 22:45 |
| glitchd | i misunderstood your suggestion, thought you were referring to a full reintsall | 22:45 |
| bazhang | a single command, install it, lougout and in again | 22:45 |
| glitchd | but im open to trying other de's i suppose | 22:45 |
| glitchd | i can see any harm in it | 22:46 |
| bazhang | I never mentioned anything at all about any sort of install/reinstall whatsoever | 22:46 |
| glitchd | like i said then, it was a misunderstanding on my part | 22:47 |
| bazhang | you were asking about the very big gamble on choosing random higher kernels to fix that | 22:47 |
| glitchd | not really a random kernel.. | 22:47 |
| bazhang | sure it is | 22:47 |
| glitchd | thought it was the next kernel release.. | 22:47 |
| bazhang | the ones on LTS are there for stability | 22:47 |
| glitchd | geeze i didnt think of it like that | 22:48 |
| bazhang | what kind of PPA and outside repos do you have on there | 22:48 |
| glitchd | so if i was to update the kernel, it would be best to upgrade it to the next lts kernel then. instead of a ".10" kernel. | 22:48 |
| glitchd | not sure | 22:49 |
| bazhang | next LTS is 18.04 | 22:49 |
| bazhang | thats a long ways away | 22:49 |
| glitchd | for me next lts would be 17.04 | 22:49 |
| glitchd | im on 16.04 | 22:49 |
| bazhang | no | 22:49 |
| bazhang | 17.04 is not LTS | 22:49 |
| bazhang | thats a nine month only support cycle | 22:50 |
| glitchd | thought all ".04's" were lts? | 22:50 |
| bazhang | nopers | 22:50 |
| glitchd | well dam. | 22:50 |
| glitchd | so only some .04 releases are lts? | 22:50 |
| bazhang | 12/14/16/18 | 22:51 |
| bazhang | see a pattern? | 22:51 |
| glitchd | yes, yes i do. | 22:51 |
| glitchd | noted. | 22:51 |
| glitchd | only even numbered releases are lts then | 22:52 |
| bazhang | what outside repos do you have on that | 22:52 |
| glitchd | http://i.imgur.com/fO3tNHk.png | 22:54 |
| bazhang | some PPA or no | 22:54 |
| glitchd | i think so, is there a way to tell specifically? | 22:55 |
| glitchd | welp, ive got some things to go do, but ill probably be back later to hash this out some more, thx bud. adios! | 23:01 |
| bazhang | npx | 23:02 |
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