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| guest12345 | hello room, i tried to get help from the ubuntu channel but i can't get in. it says im banned. can someone please help or lift the ban | 13:28 |
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| RAOF | robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1720131 is the logind bug I filed | 13:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1720131 in systemd (Ubuntu) "logind holds open file descriptor to DRI nodes, preventing nvidia suspend" [Undecided,New] | 13:33 |
| LocutusOfBorg | guest12345, register your nick | 13:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg | guests are not allowed in some channels | 13:34 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF: didn't file upstream? | 13:34 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Not initially, no. | 13:34 |
| RAOF | I guess I can if you want. | 13:34 |
| robert_ancell | please :) | 13:36 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Hah! I'm three days late: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6908 | 13:41 |
| robert_ancell | :) | 13:41 |
| guest12345 | it appears to be an ip ban | 13:44 |
| guest12345 | we have a static here at the office | 13:44 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so go on #freenode and ask there | 13:49 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | jbicha, boinc mostly syncd :/ | 14:50 |
| jbicha | LocutusOfBorg: thank you | 14:54 |
| doko | stgraber: sru team meeting in the ballroom | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | juliank: I know it wasn't you who made the change (https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/commit/?id=cbaf353ead58aa9eefe51542b6ad91e69b6289ce), but do you know why this new bit of config is different from APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated? | 15:11 |
| juliank | cjwatson: no | 15:12 |
| juliank | cjwatson: But I know that it's older than 3 years, so I'm not sure we can figure out why | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | hmmm | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | we just noticed that allow-unauthenticated recently stopped being effective on buildds | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/339016030/buildlog_ubuntu-artful-amd64.node-babel_6.25.0+dfsg-7_BUILDING.txt.gz despite APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "1" | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | (I'm fixing this particular case in another way, but it seems unexpected) | 15:14 |
| juliank | cjwatson: Well, it's an unrelated setting, we just flipped the default for AllowInsecureRepositories to 0 recently | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | mm. so AllowInsecureRepositories affects update, AllowUnauthenticated affects other acquisition? | 15:15 |
| juliank | cjwatson: mvo split allow-insecure-repositories and AllowDowngradeToInsecureRepositories off from unauthenticated in Oct 1, 2014 | 15:15 |
| juliank | cjwatson: I think to be complete AllowInsecureRepositories affects downloading unsigned Release files | 15:16 |
| juliank | and the rest stuff with missing trust root from a release file | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | hm, right | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | infinity1: ^- so maybe chroots should start setting Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories as well? | 15:17 |
| juliank | You can also set these options per sources.list entry | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | Yeah I know | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | And we're moving towards that (and indeed to dispatching necessary keys so that it mostly stops mattering) | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | We're just not completely there | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | In this particular case, https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/external-dependencies-trusted/+merge/331490 (plus a bootstrap-package change) should make it not a problem | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | (or I guess here [allow-insecure=yes] rather than [trusted=yes] - will experiment) | 15:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg | rbalint, unattended-upgrades new merge? | 15:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | and why can't you apply for PPU? | 15:38 |
| rbalint | LocutusOfBorg: I applied for core dev | 15:41 |
| jbicha | LocutusOfBorg: he is applying for Core Dev now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BalintReczey/CoreDeveloperApplication | 15:41 |
| rbalint | LocutusOfBorg: would be nice to have an other endorsement as two seems not to be not enough :-) | 15:42 |
| rbalint | LocutusOfBorg: regarding unattended-upgrades I wanted to give it a few days in unstable but i plan filing the merge this week | 15:44 |
| kyrofa | tkamppeter, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1655125 | 15:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1655125 in snapd "Missing interface: content sharing in the other direction" [Undecided,Triaged] | 15:46 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25634196/ | 16:02 |
| nacc | juliank: how should i loop properly on `apt update`/`apt-get update` completing successfully? It returns 0 (it seems) when it fails to download all index files | 16:20 |
| juliank | nacc: You can't, really | 16:20 |
| nacc | juliank: sigh :/ | 16:21 |
| nacc | juliank: ok | 16:21 |
| nacc | cjwatson: how do the buildd's ensure they have a valid apt cache? | 16:21 |
| nacc | (e.g., start a container, apt update which may or may not update but returns 0 no matter what, ... but we want apt install to work) | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | nacc: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-launchpad-branches/launchpad-buildd/trunk/view/head:/lpbuildd/target/apt.py#L59 | 16:22 |
| nacc | cjwatson: thanks! | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | crude, but good enough | 16:22 |
| nacc | cjwatson: but wait, do you get a CalledProcessError? | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | it certainly used to return non-zero when it failed to download all index files | 16:22 |
| nacc | cjwatson: i thought that only got raised on non-zero? | 16:22 |
| nacc | cjwatson: ah ok :) | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | or at least in the relevant categories of failure | 16:22 |
| nacc | cjwatson: on xenial it does not (in a lxd) | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | maybe you're hitting something a bit different than buildds generally do | 16:23 |
| nacc | maybe, yeah | 16:23 |
| nacc | i can adapt your backoff logic | 16:23 |
| nacc | (we have other network retry/backoff stuff anyways) | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | it was a while ago, but when we did that our relatively frequent chroot failures basically went away | 16:24 |
| nacc | yeah it makes sense | 16:24 |
| nacc | cjwatson: juliank: thanks! | 16:25 |
| tsimonq2 | So I don't want to make Snaps and the backports policy isn't 100% clear... how would I go about requesting a 0 day Backports release of several LXQt components that saw a new upstream release recently? | 16:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Or rather, can something like that be done? | 16:49 |
| tsimonq2 | (Backports before a new devel release opens) | 16:50 |
| persia | tsimonq2: I'm not sure what you mean by 0-day. My experience has always been a) get new upstream version in Debian, b) sync to Ubuntu development repo, c) request backport (and providing testing feedback, etc.) | 16:50 |
| tsimonq2 | persia: Similar to the concept of a 0-day SRU | 16:50 |
| persia | Ah. I don't recall that happening, but I'll defer to someone paying closer attention these days. | 16:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok | 16:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Because if I test the packages in a PPA now, and they'll be synced when devel opens anyways, but the timing doesn't match up for artful-release, how would that go down? | 16:52 |
| tsimonq2 | And there's features in the packages. | 16:52 |
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| nacc | doko: is there any intention for ubuntu-dev-tools to become pythonn3? the wrapper scripts are *all* python2 :( | 19:10 |
| nacc | doko: which it turns out when you try to snap them, means you need to build python2 and python3 and build the part twice | 19:11 |
| nacc | once to get a python3 lib and once to get the python2 scripts | 19:11 |
| sarnold | nacc: while you're fixing things maybe apport scripts too pls <3 | 19:11 |
| sarnold | hey est31 :) | 19:11 |
| doko | nacc: feel free to update them ;) afaik most of them depend on launchpadlib ... | 19:12 |
| nacc | doko: sigh :) ok | 19:12 |
| est31 | hello sarnold | 19:12 |
| nacc | sarnold: heh | 19:12 |
| doko | cjwatson: ^^^ is there a python3 replacement for launchpadlib? | 19:13 |
| nacc | doko: launchpadlib works with python3 | 19:13 |
| nacc | doko: we use it heavily in git-ubuntu :) | 19:13 |
| doko | ohh, then this changed | 19:14 |
| doko | this and bzr keeps python2 for me on my laptop | 19:14 |
| nacc | doko: it'd be a simple tweak to setup.py for the scripts to install on python3, but then they all nneed updates to not use /usr/bin/python | 19:14 |
| cjwatson | python3-launchpadlib is mostly OK now in artful | 19:15 |
| cjwatson | it was a bit dodgy in xenial | 19:15 |
| nacc | yeah, i'm referring to the one on pypi | 19:15 |
| cjwatson | right, it's up to date there now | 19:15 |
| nacc | cjwatson: thanks for that :) helped enalbe the git-ubuntu snap | 19:15 |
| cjwatson | I have a load of ubuntu-archive-tool updates which I need to get round to landing | 19:16 |
| cjwatson | +s | 19:16 |
| est31 | wow someone on #ubuntu really wondered about TOR browser | 20:11 |
| nacc | est31: they had an offensive nick and were being helped | 20:11 |
| nacc | unclear why it escalated from there | 20:11 |
| est31 | I've got about 20 PMs from different nicks | 20:11 |
| nacc | yep | 20:12 |
| pfsmorigo | I only got two | 20:12 |
| nacc | it was basically random, it seems | 20:12 |
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| ppisati_ | doko: am i correct saying that we don't have a cross-compile toolchain from (!x86) to x86? e.g. cross-compile from arm64 host to i386 target? | 20:59 |
| ricotz | doko, any chance to get this patch into arful? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=874276#25 | 21:14 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 874276 in ca-certificates-java "ca-certificates-java: fails to install on armhf: Error: missing `server' JVM at `/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-armhf/jre/lib/arm/server/libjvm.so'" [Grave,Open] | 21:14 |
| manjo | meet @6:30 in the lobby for team dinner | 21:51 |
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