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mate|92796Ubuntu Mate ppc system freezes randomly. No drivers. How do I at least decrease the instances of this?02:41
mate|92796I meant no missing drivers.02:41
mate|92796I have a ibook g4,02:57
mate|92796Any insights?02:57
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ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.05:32
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m4tchanging the compton config to use --xrender-sync --xrender-sync-fence seemed to fix my issues with lag in pluma (using nvidia proprietary)09:41
* m4t crosses fingers09:41
ubuntu-matehi12:03
danboidmsttcorefonts doesn't seem to be installable under 17.10 - not from the US or UK mirrors at least14:12
alkisgdanboid: what's the output of `apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer`?14:16
danboidE: Failed to fetch https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe  Redirection from https to 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mirrorproblem?failedmirror=netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net' is forbidden [IP: 78.35.24.46 443]14:17
danboidOn a previous attempt it got a bit further but still failed to install all the fonts14:18
alkisgAnd can you download it from a browser?14:19
alkisghttps://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe14:20
alkisgIt works for me14:20
danboidalkisg, Its not a standard deb package really as it doesn't contain the fonts - it has to fetch them from another server14:20
alkisgI know14:20
alkisgThat's why I ask for the browser input14:20
alkisgwget "https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe"14:20
alkisg2017-09-28 17:20:47 (1,42 MB/s) - ‘andale32.exe’ saved [198384/198384]14:20
alkisgIf it doesn't work for you, it sounds like a net issue, not a server issue14:21
danboidThat address looks dodgy as it has a unescaped space14:21
alkisgThat's why I put quotes in wget14:21
alkisgAnd it works14:21
alkisgCan you try?14:21
danboidYep - I can wget that fine14:21
alkisgSo only the redirection is forbidden?14:22
alkisgSounds like a blacklist on sourceforge for your ip range then14:22
danboidSeems so. With both UK and US morrors14:22
alkisgWhich mirrors are you referring to, sourceforge mirrors?14:22
alkisgWe're using the same URL now14:22
danboidUbuntu mirrors14:23
alkisgIt's not about the apt mirrors14:23
alkisgNo, that package was downloaded fine14:23
alkisgIt's the postinst script that wgets it that fails14:23
alkisgIt's about the sourceforge mirrors now14:23
danboidHave you heard of this happenening before?14:24
alkisgI've heard about sf download issues many times. I don't remember the exact messages so I don't know if it's the same or not14:24
alkisgBut you're reporting that wget works14:24
danboidSounds like I eother use a VPN or install those fonts manually14:24
alkisgSo it's only about the redirection from https to http that chokes14:25
alkisgDo you have any apt related environment variables?14:25
alkisgenv | egrep -i 'http|apt'14:25
danboidNope - that produced no output14:26
alkisgAnd if you retry "apt install  ttf-mscorefonts-installer`, you get only that one failed line as the output?14:26
danboidNo - that was the key bit14:26
alkisgCan you paste all of it to paste.ubuntu.com?14:27
danboidhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25633640/14:28
danboidalkisg, can you install msttcorefonts?14:30
danboid(under 17.10)14:30
danboidYou won't be in my IP range so probably?14:30
alkisgdanboid: I haven't tested, but it now got past the andale32 issue, which sounds like busy sf servers14:31
alkisgIt's not a problem with apt or the ubuntu mirrors14:31
alkisgIt keeps the packages in a local cache14:31
alkisgSo if you try it many times, it may download more of the fonts and stop with errors in next ones14:31
danboidI've tried about 10 times now - it never does mor more about 5 fonts before failing14:31
alkisgYou've seen it retry andale?14:31
alkisgAFAIK, it keeps them in /var/cache...14:32
danboidI've seen it get further than that paste14:32
alkisgbbiab14:32
danboidSeems I've hit a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/160753514:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1607535 in msttcorefonts (Ubuntu) "ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.4+nmu1ubuntu2 fails to install core fonts" [Medium,Fix released]14:38
sixwheeledbeasthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/137178314:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1651923 in apt (Ubuntu Yakkety) "duplicate for #1371783 apt https method decodes redirect locations and sends them to the destination undecoded." [High,Fix released]14:39
sixwheeledbeastThere seems to be a few14:39
sixwheeledbeastInstall 3.6 from debian pool?14:39
danboidThere's an easy workaround in manually installing the font package frok DEbian tho14:39
danboidsixwheeledbeast, Yep - trying that now14:40
danboidManually installing that deb has done it :)14:45
danboidwget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb14:45
alkisgdanboid: you have already downloaded the .deb14:58
alkisgAnd it got in the preinst phase14:58
danboidProb solved by manually installig that deb yes14:59
alkisgdanboid: nah, you just misunderstood things and the sf net issues gone away at that time :)15:01
alkisgPackage preinst phase is after the .deb is successfully downloaded by apt15:01
alkisgYou never had apt issues, only sf issues15:01
alkisgAh you got a different version?15:02
alkisgOK then, my bad15:02
danboidalkisg, https://askubuntu.com/questions/829247/cannot-install-the-package-ttf-mscorefonts-installer15:03
danboidYep - not just me15:03
alkisgdanboid: you say you have 17.1015:03
danboidyes15:03
alkisgWhich has 3.615:03
alkisgThis answer says that 3.4 is broken and 3.6 is fixed15:03
alkisgThen you download 3.6 from debian15:03
alkisg...to replace the 3.6 from ubuntu15:03
danboidDebian != Ubuntu15:03
alkisgIf that works, that would mean that 3.6 in ubuntu is broken15:04
danboidyes15:04
danboidseems so15:04
alkisghttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_3.6ubuntu2/changelog15:04
alkisgThe diff from debian is there15:04
alkisgIf that diff causes issues, it should be reported in launchpad...15:04
alkisghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bugs15:05
alkisgdanboid: btw, the proper channel for 17.10 is #ubuntu+1...15:12
danboidalkisg, Know, reported, confirmed bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/171361515:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1713615 in msttcorefonts (Ubuntu) "Fonts fail to download" [High,Confirmed]15:15
Linux_Explorewhat's the meaning of Mate in Ubuntu Mate?15:19
MenzadorIt uses the MATE desktop environment, which is a drop-in replacement for GNOME 2.15:20
Linux_Exploreok15:21
Linux_Explorecan we run android app in ubuntu mate?15:21
MenzadorAre you talking about Anbox?15:23
Linux_ExploreI don't know what Anbox is.15:23
Linux_Explorejust curious about whether android apps can be run on ubuntu.15:23
MenzadorAnbox, Slashlik, and other apps create a compatibility layer that will allow you to run APKs15:24
MenzadorBut it's not built in15:24
Linux_Exploreok. Are they easy to operate?15:24
MenzadorAlso, YMMV - these apps are generally still in development.15:24
Linux_Exploreok15:24
Linux_Exploreso not yet ready.15:25
MenzadorA better option would be to work with a virtual machine or a dual-bokt environment running Android x86 or Remix OS.15:25
Menzador*dual-boot15:25
Linux_Exploreok. Virtual Machine is a better option.15:26
Linux_Exploreis there any good kanban app available for ubuntu mate?15:26
MenzadorFirst I should point out that everything available in the main Ubuntu flavour is always available for Ubuntu MATE.15:28
Linux_Exploreand also please suggest a good e book reader that is convenient for reading pdf fies and ebooks for long durations without much strain on eyes.15:29
MenzadorAlso, try Taiga.io15:29
Linux_Exploreok15:29
MenzadorMATE ships Atril, a fork of Evince.15:29
Linux_Exploreok15:29
MenzadorIf you've used Evince in the past, Atril's functionality is identical.15:31
Linux_Exploreok15:32
Linux_Explorethanks a lot for the info.15:33
Linux_Explorebye and have a great day.15:33
MenzadorYou're welcome. Pop in anytime. Also, #ubuntu can help with any non-mate-specific issues15:33
MenzadorBye!15:33
Linux_Exploreok15:33
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UtopialGood afternoon. There is room in spanish?17:29
alkisg!es17:31
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:31
UtopialGracias alkisg . Pero el canal está vacío...17:32
alkisgUtopial: I'm Greek, I don't speak Spanish17:33
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sigurdsonHiya, how can i run a system update?18:26
pavlushkasigurdson: "sudo apt update && sudo apt -y full-upgrade"18:37
sigurdsoney you will love this logging system : apt install heroku && heroku addons:create papertrale && echo "win" :D18:40
sigurdsonHave not tried it my self yet, but its a good tool this papertrail thing in heroku18:42
pintuhi18:45
sigurdsonHiya18:45
sigurdsonhmm looks like the heroku is not an apt package18:46
pintucan i ask questions here?18:46
sigurdsonSure :)18:46
mate|45328Anyone know how to 'open terminal here' in Caja? The extension is enabled but there is no entry in file or context menus18:47
pintuAnyone know How can i access bios area? I tried memmapping /dev/mem but it gives me segmentation fault.18:48
sigurdsonoh, can you do that?18:49
pintui read it somewhere18:51
sigurdsonoh this might not be the right channel, hope you get the help you need.18:54
sigurdsonWill mate move on to gnome 3 or stay the same i wonder18:55
sigurdsonwe have been on hollydays and i was wondering if someone can recomment a good tool for making boarders, signatures, collagues and some editing for photos. It must be simple to use :)19:00
alkisgsigurdson: move on to "gnome 3" or gtk 3?19:08
sigurdsongnome 2 went out then mate came along isn't it so?19:08
sigurdsonaww my mouse is so laggy.. using a G602 from logitech19:09
alkisgmate aims to keep the gnome 2 experience19:10
alkisgIf they clone gnome 3, there's absolutely no point in having mate then19:10
sigurdsonso how will it move in the future?19:10
alkisgThey'll keep the gnome 2 experience in the future too :)19:10
alkisgThe libraries will switch from gtk2 to gtk319:10
sigurdsondo you know the estemate life time of mate?19:11
alkisgI think they did that already...19:11
sigurdsoni dunno just got home from hollydays and did the update.. might need to restart the system19:11
alkisgI don't think anyone can really estimate the life of open source software19:11
alkisgSome things die too soon, others refuse to die for ages :)19:11
sigurdsonbut back to my question^^ i was thinking about a photo editing software that isnt very complicated.. Just making some boarders, albums, tags, collagues, editing :)19:12
harnapazadeI am here19:28
sigurdsonhmm what files do you add bash aliases for a user in.. i forgot19:51
sigurdsonhmm .bash_profile?19:52
sigurdsonallthough i am using the MATE-shell19:52
un2him~/.bash_aliases is what I use19:55
un2himShould work on all flavors19:55
lencoleQuick question, is there a way to turn off the trackpad when a usb mouse is plugged in (I know I could do it with a setting in KDE but cannot find something similar with Ubuntu-mate)?20:13
lenguahola21:15
lenguaHi21:15
lenguaHow can I start UbuntuMATE in recovery mode? Wich key do i have to press?21:16
lenguaHow can i access to recovery mode on ubuntu mate?21:54
tsimonq2!ask21:54
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:54
lenguaWhat key do I have to press?21:54
lenguaShift and Esc does not go.21:54
tsimonq2lengua: In GRUB, you should have an "Advanced Options" entry or something of that nature21:55
lenguaBut I don't know how to access GRUB21:55
lenguaIt loads the operating system directly21:55
lenguaI turn on the raspberry and I don't see GRUB...21:57
tsimonq2I think Esc21:59
* tsimonq2 shrugs21:59
tsimonq2I'll defer to the wonderful, knowledgeable flexiondotorg :)21:59
flexiondotorgThe raspberry pi doesn't use GRU22:05
flexiondotorgB22:05
tsimonq2Oh22:05
tsimonq2flexiondotorg: TIL then :)22:05
lencoleQuick question, is there a way to turn off the trackpad when a usb mouse is plugged in (I know I could do it with a setting in KDE but cannot find something similar with Ubuntu-mate)?22:26
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aidanhwy23:17
aidanhey23:18
flexiondotorghttps://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-artful-beta2/23:24
ouroumov_Lol23:43
ouroumov_flexiondotorg, "I'm afraid to say we had no choice but to add some new features to caja. We understand this will be shocking to many and apologize for our lack of sensibility."23:43
flexiondotorg😀23:46
ouroumov_flexiondotorg, there's another Ubuntu Family issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/171990823:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1719908 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Artful) "Keyboard step - Keyboard layout not applied when layout is selected" [Undecided,New]23:48
ouroumov_I'd recommend users of Beta2 choose a really dumb password such as "aaa" if they notice when inputing their username that the keyboard layout doesn't match.23:48
ouroumov_Oh and flexiondotorg there's also this one, even if it's not new, but it should be mentioned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1047384 because if users try full disk encryption without English keyboard they'll end up with unbootable system23:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1047384 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "System Encryption Password set before setting keyboard locale" [High,Triaged]23:50

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