[02:41] <mate|92796> Ubuntu Mate ppc system freezes randomly. No drivers. How do I at least decrease the instances of this?
[02:41] <mate|92796> I meant no missing drivers.
[02:57] <mate|92796> I have a ibook g4,
[02:57] <mate|92796> Any insights?
[05:32] <schurdevin> résoudre mot de passe refusé sur terminal
[05:32] <alkisg> !fr
[05:33] <schurdevin> join
[09:41] <m4t> changing the compton config to use --xrender-sync --xrender-sync-fence seemed to fix my issues with lag in pluma (using nvidia proprietary)
[09:41]  * m4t crosses fingers
[12:03] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[14:12] <danboid> msttcorefonts doesn't seem to be installable under 17.10 - not from the US or UK mirrors at least
[14:16] <alkisg> danboid: what's the output of `apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer`?
[14:17] <danboid> E: Failed to fetch https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe  Redirection from https to 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mirrorproblem?failedmirror=netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net' is forbidden [IP: 78.35.24.46 443]
[14:18] <danboid> On a previous attempt it got a bit further but still failed to install all the fonts
[14:19] <alkisg> And can you download it from a browser?
[14:20] <alkisg> https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe
[14:20] <alkisg> It works for me
[14:20] <danboid> alkisg, Its not a standard deb package really as it doesn't contain the fonts - it has to fetch them from another server
[14:20] <alkisg> I know
[14:20] <alkisg> That's why I ask for the browser input
[14:20] <alkisg> wget "https://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe"
[14:20] <alkisg> 2017-09-28 17:20:47 (1,42 MB/s) - ‘andale32.exe’ saved [198384/198384]
[14:21] <alkisg> If it doesn't work for you, it sounds like a net issue, not a server issue
[14:21] <danboid> That address looks dodgy as it has a unescaped space
[14:21] <alkisg> That's why I put quotes in wget
[14:21] <alkisg> And it works
[14:21] <alkisg> Can you try?
[14:21] <danboid> Yep - I can wget that fine
[14:22] <alkisg> So only the redirection is forbidden?
[14:22] <alkisg> Sounds like a blacklist on sourceforge for your ip range then
[14:22] <danboid> Seems so. With both UK and US morrors
[14:22] <alkisg> Which mirrors are you referring to, sourceforge mirrors?
[14:22] <alkisg> We're using the same URL now
[14:23] <danboid> Ubuntu mirrors
[14:23] <alkisg> It's not about the apt mirrors
[14:23] <alkisg> No, that package was downloaded fine
[14:23] <alkisg> It's the postinst script that wgets it that fails
[14:23] <alkisg> It's about the sourceforge mirrors now
[14:24] <danboid> Have you heard of this happenening before?
[14:24] <alkisg> I've heard about sf download issues many times. I don't remember the exact messages so I don't know if it's the same or not
[14:24] <alkisg> But you're reporting that wget works
[14:24] <danboid> Sounds like I eother use a VPN or install those fonts manually
[14:25] <alkisg> So it's only about the redirection from https to http that chokes
[14:25] <alkisg> Do you have any apt related environment variables?
[14:25] <alkisg> env | egrep -i 'http|apt'
[14:26] <danboid> Nope - that produced no output
[14:26] <alkisg> And if you retry "apt install  ttf-mscorefonts-installer`, you get only that one failed line as the output?
[14:26] <danboid> No - that was the key bit
[14:27] <alkisg> Can you paste all of it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[14:28] <danboid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25633640/
[14:30] <danboid> alkisg, can you install msttcorefonts?
[14:30] <danboid> (under 17.10)
[14:30] <danboid> You won't be in my IP range so probably?
[14:31] <alkisg> danboid: I haven't tested, but it now got past the andale32 issue, which sounds like busy sf servers
[14:31] <alkisg> It's not a problem with apt or the ubuntu mirrors
[14:31] <alkisg> It keeps the packages in a local cache
[14:31] <alkisg> So if you try it many times, it may download more of the fonts and stop with errors in next ones
[14:31] <danboid> I've tried about 10 times now - it never does mor more about 5 fonts before failing
[14:31] <alkisg> You've seen it retry andale?
[14:32] <alkisg> AFAIK, it keeps them in /var/cache...
[14:32] <danboid> I've seen it get further than that paste
[14:32] <alkisg> bbiab
[14:38] <danboid> Seems I've hit a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1607535
[14:39] <sixwheeledbeast> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1371783
[14:39] <sixwheeledbeast> There seems to be a few
[14:39] <sixwheeledbeast> Install 3.6 from debian pool?
[14:39] <danboid> There's an easy workaround in manually installing the font package frok DEbian tho
[14:40] <danboid> sixwheeledbeast, Yep - trying that now
[14:45] <danboid> Manually installing that deb has done it :)
[14:45] <danboid> wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb
[14:58] <alkisg> danboid: you have already downloaded the .deb
[14:58] <alkisg> And it got in the preinst phase
[14:59] <danboid> Prob solved by manually installig that deb yes
[15:01] <alkisg> danboid: nah, you just misunderstood things and the sf net issues gone away at that time :)
[15:01] <alkisg> Package preinst phase is after the .deb is successfully downloaded by apt
[15:01] <alkisg> You never had apt issues, only sf issues
[15:02] <alkisg> Ah you got a different version?
[15:02] <alkisg> OK then, my bad
[15:03] <danboid> alkisg, https://askubuntu.com/questions/829247/cannot-install-the-package-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:03] <danboid> Yep - not just me
[15:03] <alkisg> danboid: you say you have 17.10
[15:03] <danboid> yes
[15:03] <alkisg> Which has 3.6
[15:03] <alkisg> This answer says that 3.4 is broken and 3.6 is fixed
[15:03] <alkisg> Then you download 3.6 from debian
[15:03] <alkisg> ...to replace the 3.6 from ubuntu
[15:03] <danboid> Debian != Ubuntu
[15:04] <alkisg> If that works, that would mean that 3.6 in ubuntu is broken
[15:04] <danboid> yes
[15:04] <danboid> seems so
[15:04] <alkisg> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_3.6ubuntu2/changelog
[15:04] <alkisg> The diff from debian is there
[15:04] <alkisg> If that diff causes issues, it should be reported in launchpad...
[15:05] <alkisg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bugs
[15:12] <alkisg> danboid: btw, the proper channel for 17.10 is #ubuntu+1...
[15:15] <danboid> alkisg, Know, reported, confirmed bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1713615
[15:19] <Linux_Explore> what's the meaning of Mate in Ubuntu Mate?
[15:20] <Menzador> It uses the MATE desktop environment, which is a drop-in replacement for GNOME 2.
[15:21] <Linux_Explore> ok
[15:21] <Linux_Explore> can we run android app in ubuntu mate?
[15:23] <Menzador> Are you talking about Anbox?
[15:23] <Linux_Explore> I don't know what Anbox is.
[15:23] <Linux_Explore> just curious about whether android apps can be run on ubuntu.
[15:24] <Menzador> Anbox, Slashlik, and other apps create a compatibility layer that will allow you to run APKs
[15:24] <Menzador> But it's not built in
[15:24] <Linux_Explore> ok. Are they easy to operate?
[15:24] <Menzador> Also, YMMV - these apps are generally still in development.
[15:24] <Linux_Explore> ok
[15:25] <Linux_Explore> so not yet ready.
[15:25] <Menzador> A better option would be to work with a virtual machine or a dual-bokt environment running Android x86 or Remix OS.
[15:25] <Menzador> *dual-boot
[15:26] <Linux_Explore> ok. Virtual Machine is a better option.
[15:26] <Linux_Explore> is there any good kanban app available for ubuntu mate?
[15:28] <Menzador> First I should point out that everything available in the main Ubuntu flavour is always available for Ubuntu MATE.
[15:29] <Linux_Explore> and also please suggest a good e book reader that is convenient for reading pdf fies and ebooks for long durations without much strain on eyes.
[15:29] <Menzador> Also, try Taiga.io
[15:29] <Linux_Explore> ok
[15:29] <Menzador> MATE ships Atril, a fork of Evince.
[15:29] <Linux_Explore> ok
[15:31] <Menzador> If you've used Evince in the past, Atril's functionality is identical.
[15:32] <Linux_Explore> ok
[15:33] <Linux_Explore> thanks a lot for the info.
[15:33] <Linux_Explore> bye and have a great day.
[15:33] <Menzador> You're welcome. Pop in anytime. Also, #ubuntu can help with any non-mate-specific issues
[15:33] <Menzador> Bye!
[15:33] <Linux_Explore> ok
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[17:29] <Utopial> Good afternoon. There is room in spanish?
[17:31] <alkisg> !es
[17:32] <Utopial> Gracias alkisg . Pero el canal está vacío...
[17:33] <alkisg> Utopial: I'm Greek, I don't speak Spanish
[18:26] <sigurdson> Hiya, how can i run a system update?
[18:37] <pavlushka> sigurdson: "sudo apt update && sudo apt -y full-upgrade"
[18:40] <sigurdson> ey you will love this logging system : apt install heroku && heroku addons:create papertrale && echo "win" :D
[18:42] <sigurdson> Have not tried it my self yet, but its a good tool this papertrail thing in heroku
[18:45] <pintu> hi
[18:45] <sigurdson> Hiya
[18:46] <sigurdson> hmm looks like the heroku is not an apt package
[18:46] <pintu> can i ask questions here?
[18:46] <sigurdson> Sure :)
[18:47] <mate|45328> Anyone know how to 'open terminal here' in Caja? The extension is enabled but there is no entry in file or context menus
[18:48] <pintu> Anyone know How can i access bios area? I tried memmapping /dev/mem but it gives me segmentation fault.
[18:49] <sigurdson> oh, can you do that?
[18:51] <pintu> i read it somewhere
[18:54] <sigurdson> oh this might not be the right channel, hope you get the help you need.
[18:55] <sigurdson> Will mate move on to gnome 3 or stay the same i wonder
[19:00] <sigurdson> we have been on hollydays and i was wondering if someone can recomment a good tool for making boarders, signatures, collagues and some editing for photos. It must be simple to use :)
[19:08] <alkisg> sigurdson: move on to "gnome 3" or gtk 3?
[19:08] <sigurdson> gnome 2 went out then mate came along isn't it so?
[19:09] <sigurdson> aww my mouse is so laggy.. using a G602 from logitech
[19:10] <alkisg> mate aims to keep the gnome 2 experience
[19:10] <alkisg> If they clone gnome 3, there's absolutely no point in having mate then
[19:10] <sigurdson> so how will it move in the future?
[19:10] <alkisg> They'll keep the gnome 2 experience in the future too :)
[19:10] <alkisg> The libraries will switch from gtk2 to gtk3
[19:11] <sigurdson> do you know the estemate life time of mate?
[19:11] <alkisg> I think they did that already...
[19:11] <sigurdson> i dunno just got home from hollydays and did the update.. might need to restart the system
[19:11] <alkisg> I don't think anyone can really estimate the life of open source software
[19:11] <alkisg> Some things die too soon, others refuse to die for ages :)
[19:12] <sigurdson> but back to my question^^ i was thinking about a photo editing software that isnt very complicated.. Just making some boarders, albums, tags, collagues, editing :)
[19:28] <harnapazade> I am here
[19:51] <sigurdson> hmm what files do you add bash aliases for a user in.. i forgot
[19:52] <sigurdson> hmm .bash_profile?
[19:52] <sigurdson> allthough i am using the MATE-shell
[19:55] <un2him> ~/.bash_aliases is what I use
[19:55] <un2him> Should work on all flavors
[20:13] <lencole> Quick question, is there a way to turn off the trackpad when a usb mouse is plugged in (I know I could do it with a setting in KDE but cannot find something similar with Ubuntu-mate)?
[21:15] <lengua> hola
[21:15] <lengua> Hi
[21:16] <lengua> How can I start UbuntuMATE in recovery mode? Wich key do i have to press?
[21:54] <lengua> How can i access to recovery mode on ubuntu mate?
[21:54] <tsimonq2> !ask
[21:54] <lengua> What key do I have to press?
[21:54] <lengua> Shift and Esc does not go.
[21:55] <tsimonq2> lengua: In GRUB, you should have an "Advanced Options" entry or something of that nature
[21:55] <lengua> But I don't know how to access GRUB
[21:55] <lengua> It loads the operating system directly
[21:57] <lengua> I turn on the raspberry and I don't see GRUB...
[21:59] <tsimonq2> I think Esc
[21:59]  * tsimonq2 shrugs
[21:59] <tsimonq2> I'll defer to the wonderful, knowledgeable flexiondotorg :)
[22:05] <flexiondotorg> The raspberry pi doesn't use GRU
[22:05] <flexiondotorg> B
[22:05] <tsimonq2> Oh
[22:05] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: TIL then :)
[22:26] <lencole> Quick question, is there a way to turn off the trackpad when a usb mouse is plugged in (I know I could do it with a setting in KDE but cannot find something similar with Ubuntu-mate)?
[23:17] <aidan> hwy
[23:18] <aidan> hey
[23:24] <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-artful-beta2/
[23:43] <ouroumov_> Lol
[23:43] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, "I'm afraid to say we had no choice but to add some new features to caja. We understand this will be shocking to many and apologize for our lack of sensibility."
[23:46] <flexiondotorg> 😀
[23:48] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, there's another Ubuntu Family issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1719908
[23:48] <ouroumov_> I'd recommend users of Beta2 choose a really dumb password such as "aaa" if they notice when inputing their username that the keyboard layout doesn't match.
[23:50] <ouroumov_> Oh and flexiondotorg there's also this one, even if it's not new, but it should be mentioned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1047384 because if users try full disk encryption without English keyboard they'll end up with unbootable system