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daftykinshaha :>00:00
zmoylan-pion my super deluxe tesco wharfdale region 0 dvd player...00:00
daftykinswow a wharfedale eh00:02
zmoylan-pino expense spared00:02
daftykinscor this Firefox Quantum is fast00:02
zmoylan-pii've read that00:03
* zmoylan-pi sticks with vivaldi00:03
daftykinsany particular reason, or just fond of underdogs?00:04
zmoylan-pideffo a fan of no#2. as casanundra the dwarf said, no#2 tries harder :-)00:05
zmoylan-pifirefox seems intent on butchering the ui i used to like, chrome is creepy google00:06
zmoylan-piwhen i try chromium i just wonder how much google is left in it00:06
zmoylan-piand i used to love opera back in the day00:08
daftykinsnot found any issues with FF myself over the moons00:09
diddledanmy first DVD was "sphere"00:09
diddledanbecause it came with the DVD drive IIRC00:09
daftykinsmine was Enemy of the State00:10
zmoylan-pinever seen either00:10
daftykinsi'd just gotten the creative labs 6x drive, Dxr2 decoder card ... and the Pentium 1 wasn't fast enough to play it.00:10
zmoylan-piyou think that's bad. a mate order a region dvd from usa.  he spent 6 months of having card refused as he was not america, address refused as he was not american so he arranged an american mate to order, pack and deliver it00:11
zmoylan-pievery step of the way it failed for the most stupid of reasons. till finally it was on it's way.  it was going to arrive the next day.00:12
daftykinsand it didn't have Irish subs?00:12
* daftykins ducks00:12
zmoylan-piand someone broke in and stole his dvd player with region switching ability and giant ass tv....00:12
daftykins!!!00:13
zmoylan-pihe asks me if i can play it... i asked him to nick the bosses ultraportable tablet jobbie. had a dvd player... you could change the region 3 times... we changed it twice that day :-)00:13
daftykinsheh yeah won't have had the disk space for a rip back then, were it even possible!00:16
daftykinswhether DVD Jon had been bored yet or not...00:16
zmoylan-piit was... but it needed 5gb of space free to rip it... but i had no region 1 dvd player that would read it00:17
zmoylan-pii was ripping a lot of dvds at work at the time... at night00:18
zmoylan-pithere was great chinese vcd copy software that worked fine with a bit of adjustment00:23
daftykins:D00:27
diddledanCreating snapcraft-temptedly-defunct-ashlee00:28
diddledanI love those names00:28
daftykinsceiling cat loves snapcraft00:29
daftykinsoh i have to sleep, the window guy is coming back at 7am ;_;00:29
diddledan:-o00:29
daftykinsbut maybe i'll have finished windows!00:29
zmoylan-pio/00:29
diddledanthat's crazy oily00:29
daftykinsyee it's quite mean00:30
daftykinsand the window is in my bedroom so i can't even slink off!00:30
zmoylan-piyou can do a sharon stone moment :-P00:31
diddledanyou need to open the door in your sexy neglige00:33
daftykinsinstead i'm lying in bed and Mischief is cleaning her... rear on the top of the sheets perhaps00:34
daftykinsmaybe with a few dead mice draped around for lulz00:34
daftykinsg'night team \o00:41
MooDoohowdy all05:07
diploMorning all07:17
SuperMattGood morning07:17
MooDoomorning diplo SuperMatt07:27
diploNearly Friday! How are you both ?07:46
MooDoodiplo: it's annoying how you can come into work excited about the day ahead, read your emails and then be in a total funk :D07:47
diploI want to graph data flow on 3 x Draytek Routers, any of you guys recommend anything ?07:47
diploI don't think I ever come to work excited to be honest anymore07:47
diploBut I see your point07:47
MooDoohttps://www.draytek.co.uk/archive/kb_vigor_dataflowmonitor.html  this help diplo ?07:49
diployeah I use that already, but more I want to collate it somewhere - use SNMP most likely - we monitor the routers already, but want to grab the info remotely to see peaks etc07:49
diploopennms looks a bit heavy07:51
MooDoonagios? spiceworks?07:53
diploWe use Nagios ( well I do, not sure anyone else has ever worked on it ) - just looked like a complete PITA, use solarwinds at a previous job, not after a long term solution really but I guess I'll give them all a try07:54
SuperMattMonitor nothing! Build for failure08:04
diploheh, we've been like that for the last 25 years08:11
diploI'm trying to change the company, they're all very old staff and change is hard08:11
MooDoodiplo: sounds familiar08:12
diploReally need to find a job elsewhere, but generally it's easy enough, just the frustration mounts at times08:20
MooDoodiplo: you sound like me mate lol.....08:21
diploheh, my problem I don't do change very often, last job was 13 years, one previous to that was 6, this ones now at 7 :)08:21
MooDoodiplo: yeah 5 years is my max for the last 4 jobs lol08:22
MooDoodiplo: ever thought about starting something yourself?08:22
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:22
diploMooDoo: I have lots, my biggest issue is billing people, I suck... I find it hard enough where I am now, I think we're overcharging them :D08:24
diploI have a few customers outside work, and sure I could get loads more, they basically pay me what they think I'm worth, works for me08:25
diploA friend of mine has also suggested some work, just trying to talk him into it.08:26
diploSAP upgrades, he'd do the SAP stuff, I'd do everything else. 50k for a weekends work08:27
MooDoodiplo: sweet, i've been thinking about doing linux stuff myself, but I'm not brave enough lol08:39
diploThis would be both linux and windows, I guess the aim is to start without leaving your current job, pick up clientelle until your at a level it needs to be full time08:41
diploEnough work to do full time ?08:42
diploCan come work for us and sort our company out if you like, could do with someone in the nott office to bang heads :d08:42
MooDoodiplo: i'd end up killing someone, i'm gobby and loud lol08:43
MooDooi'm also tempted to code a web application something for dentists or something like that....08:43
MooDoofull server with os and application to be installed onsite.....something like that any way08:44
diploProblem with that is it would have to be passing lots of checks for data ?08:44
diploBut sounds like a money making exercise :)08:44
diploFrom what I've seen of their software, it sucks08:44
MooDoojust in my thoughts at the moment.08:44
MooDoobrb08:50
diploWorth a thought, 10 years ago I was going to write something for takeaways to order online... mates said it was a stupid idea, no we have justeat and a multitude of others :(08:53
daftykinsheh, doh!08:55
daftykinseven the rock has gotten on the bandwagon with food.gg - i see folks with tablets on behind the counter awaiting the orders coming in08:55
diploheh, defo the future! although I do hate people being on their phones etc all the time. I ban it when I'm out :)08:59
daftykinsas you should, there's one particular mate and his wife in our group that are both screen watchers09:01
diployeah, we have the same. Sucks really that it's gotten like this09:03
daftykinsif i knew them better i'd definitely say something09:03
diplohah, that never stops me :P09:04
daftykins:D09:04
daftykinsthe funny part is that i sometimes think, well if one guy wasn't checking his phone he'd not see me asking where they are!09:04
diplo:)09:07
daftykinsbut yep, lessons for all to rediscover how to be 'present' are definitely tempting09:10
zmoylan-piisn't there a thing were everyone puts their phone face down on the table and first one to flip it pays penalty?12:16
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkCI7Og9bk12:31
diplozmoylan-pi: What I've seen before is sticking it in a pile and the first one to get their phone pays for the meal12:51
diddledanisn't there a rule about going home with the person whose phone you pick up?13:11
diddledangrr. what's wrong with mir on my raspi?!13:12
diddledanSep 26 20:32:07 localhost mir-kiosk.mir-kiosk[1138]: /snap/mir-kiosk/35/bin/run-miral: line 68:  1639 Floating point exception${SNAP}/usr/bin/${bin_to_run} --vt 1 --arw-file --file /run/mir_socket13:14
diploCan't say I know much about ( read nothing ) about MIR13:54
diddledanme either :-p13:55
foobarryhow does this wifiextender work? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cre/NETGEAR-EX2700-100UKS-WiFi-Range-Extender-Wi-Fi-Booster/B00NIUHAG619:48
daftykinsdouble hop, don't touch it!19:49
daftykinsa wired or wifi device has to send packets to it, which are then sent again to your main router - so it's a joke19:49
foobarrymy sister hasa dead zone in her house19:50
daftykinsi'd either: 1) cable and put an access point / wired socket on the end 2) try out powerline adapters (depending on the electrical setup in the property)19:51
foobarrythink she tried 2)19:51
daftykinshrmm19:51
foobarryaccess point is double hop but wired link is more reliable i guess19:53
daftykinsyeah it's totally moot when you have a proper cable between, a guy with a big house (technically two houses) i work for, i have a 6 AP setup going on19:53
foobarrywhich AP are you using?19:54
daftykinswe've got quite an old setup there, as the place was kitted out from 2010... let's have a look what i'd pick today - is a hardwire run practical there?19:55
daftykinssuper low end 2.4GHz only - https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-WA901ND-Wireless-Access-Point/dp/B013HCO332/ or dual band and -ac: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-WAC104-100UKS-WAC104-Business-Wireless/dp/B01LWUJU8H/19:56
daftykinsyou might want to dig further and find something moddable with an open firmware though, not sure19:57
foobarrythx19:58
daftykinsnp ^_^19:58
daftykinsanyone had any exposure to older ADSL2 Draytek Vigor routers? curious whether it's worth trusting their VPN features20:27
zmoylan-piolder... vpn... not words to enspire trust? :-)20:42
daftykinsindeed20:42
daftykinsand theirs is on an outdated firmware too XD only a small office but so many things for me to tackle20:42
zmoylan-pion these occasions i am reminded of the wise words in ronin... if there is any doubt there is no doubt :-)20:43
daftykins:D20:43
* zmoylan-pi makes note to watch great film again... 20:44
* zmoylan-pi currently is watching darmok of tng... great episode21:04
diddledan21st of September: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERoo4_xX47821:29
diddledanat least we didn't blow up the planet21:30
daftykinswell, today21:31
daftykinser, well you know - then :P21:31
diddledanyoutube is annoying me with adverts for converse where miley cyrus is pretending to be a journalist/interviewer21:33
diddledanthe problem is she's interviewing people who just wanted exposure21:34
diddledanit's painful21:34
ali1234haha so the alert turned out to be just regular evangelical christian broadcasting the same thing they broadcast every day?21:36
zmoylan-pithey're adverts.... pitched at people who watch adverts... you'd need to be some flippin eejit to like them21:36
daftykinsdiddledan: no adblocker? o021:42
zmoylan-piwhenever i see other peoples browsers i'm reminded of tv in idiocracy... http://www.bontheball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/idiocracy-ow-my-balls.jpg21:45
diddledanI love Ow! My Balls!21:46
zmoylan-pithey never bettered you've been framed21:47
zmoylan-piwell except for the japanese game show endurance but there the pain was often mental21:51
daftykinsas a viewer or contestant?21:52
zmoylan-pii mean when you saw what they did to the contestants it made you realise why it took to late 70s to get that soldier to give up...21:52
zmoylan-pihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEOz7gaFfmU21:54
daftykins:S21:56

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