[00:00] haha :> [00:00] on my super deluxe tesco wharfdale region 0 dvd player... [00:02] wow a wharfedale eh [00:02] no expense spared [00:02] cor this Firefox Quantum is fast [00:03] i've read that [00:03] * zmoylan-pi sticks with vivaldi [00:04] any particular reason, or just fond of underdogs? [00:05] deffo a fan of no#2. as casanundra the dwarf said, no#2 tries harder :-) [00:06] firefox seems intent on butchering the ui i used to like, chrome is creepy google [00:06] when i try chromium i just wonder how much google is left in it [00:08] and i used to love opera back in the day [00:09] not found any issues with FF myself over the moons [00:09] my first DVD was "sphere" [00:09] because it came with the DVD drive IIRC [00:10] mine was Enemy of the State [00:10] never seen either [00:10] i'd just gotten the creative labs 6x drive, Dxr2 decoder card ... and the Pentium 1 wasn't fast enough to play it. [00:11] you think that's bad. a mate order a region dvd from usa. he spent 6 months of having card refused as he was not america, address refused as he was not american so he arranged an american mate to order, pack and deliver it [00:12] every step of the way it failed for the most stupid of reasons. till finally it was on it's way. it was going to arrive the next day. [00:12] and it didn't have Irish subs? [00:12] * daftykins ducks [00:12] and someone broke in and stole his dvd player with region switching ability and giant ass tv.... [00:13] !!! [00:13] he asks me if i can play it... i asked him to nick the bosses ultraportable tablet jobbie. had a dvd player... you could change the region 3 times... we changed it twice that day :-) [00:16] heh yeah won't have had the disk space for a rip back then, were it even possible! [00:16] whether DVD Jon had been bored yet or not... [00:17] it was... but it needed 5gb of space free to rip it... but i had no region 1 dvd player that would read it [00:18] i was ripping a lot of dvds at work at the time... at night [00:23] there was great chinese vcd copy software that worked fine with a bit of adjustment [00:27] :D [00:28] Creating snapcraft-temptedly-defunct-ashlee [00:28] I love those names [00:29] ceiling cat loves snapcraft [00:29] oh i have to sleep, the window guy is coming back at 7am ;_; [00:29] :-o [00:29] but maybe i'll have finished windows! [00:29] o/ [00:29] that's crazy oily [00:30] yee it's quite mean [00:30] and the window is in my bedroom so i can't even slink off! [00:31] you can do a sharon stone moment :-P [00:33] you need to open the door in your sexy neglige [00:34] instead i'm lying in bed and Mischief is cleaning her... rear on the top of the sheets perhaps [00:34] maybe with a few dead mice draped around for lulz [00:41] g'night team \o [05:07] howdy all [07:17] Morning all [07:17] Good morning [07:27] morning diplo SuperMatt [07:46] Nearly Friday! How are you both ? [07:47] diplo: it's annoying how you can come into work excited about the day ahead, read your emails and then be in a total funk :D [07:47] I want to graph data flow on 3 x Draytek Routers, any of you guys recommend anything ? [07:47] I don't think I ever come to work excited to be honest anymore [07:47] But I see your point [07:49] https://www.draytek.co.uk/archive/kb_vigor_dataflowmonitor.html this help diplo ? [07:49] yeah I use that already, but more I want to collate it somewhere - use SNMP most likely - we monitor the routers already, but want to grab the info remotely to see peaks etc [07:51] opennms looks a bit heavy [07:53] nagios? spiceworks? [07:54] We use Nagios ( well I do, not sure anyone else has ever worked on it ) - just looked like a complete PITA, use solarwinds at a previous job, not after a long term solution really but I guess I'll give them all a try [08:04] Monitor nothing! Build for failure [08:11] heh, we've been like that for the last 25 years [08:11] I'm trying to change the company, they're all very old staff and change is hard [08:12] diplo: sounds familiar [08:20] Really need to find a job elsewhere, but generally it's easy enough, just the frustration mounts at times [08:21] diplo: you sound like me mate lol..... [08:21] heh, my problem I don't do change very often, last job was 13 years, one previous to that was 6, this ones now at 7 :) [08:22] diplo: yeah 5 years is my max for the last 4 jobs lol [08:22] diplo: ever thought about starting something yourself? [08:22] morning boys and girls. [08:24] MooDoo: I have lots, my biggest issue is billing people, I suck... I find it hard enough where I am now, I think we're overcharging them :D [08:25] I have a few customers outside work, and sure I could get loads more, they basically pay me what they think I'm worth, works for me [08:26] A friend of mine has also suggested some work, just trying to talk him into it. [08:27] SAP upgrades, he'd do the SAP stuff, I'd do everything else. 50k for a weekends work [08:39] diplo: sweet, i've been thinking about doing linux stuff myself, but I'm not brave enough lol [08:41] This would be both linux and windows, I guess the aim is to start without leaving your current job, pick up clientelle until your at a level it needs to be full time [08:42] Enough work to do full time ? [08:42] Can come work for us and sort our company out if you like, could do with someone in the nott office to bang heads :d [08:43] diplo: i'd end up killing someone, i'm gobby and loud lol [08:43] i'm also tempted to code a web application something for dentists or something like that.... [08:44] full server with os and application to be installed onsite.....something like that any way [08:44] Problem with that is it would have to be passing lots of checks for data ? [08:44] But sounds like a money making exercise :) [08:44] From what I've seen of their software, it sucks [08:44] just in my thoughts at the moment. [08:50] brb [08:53] Worth a thought, 10 years ago I was going to write something for takeaways to order online... mates said it was a stupid idea, no we have justeat and a multitude of others :( [08:55] heh, doh! [08:55] even the rock has gotten on the bandwagon with food.gg - i see folks with tablets on behind the counter awaiting the orders coming in [08:59] heh, defo the future! although I do hate people being on their phones etc all the time. I ban it when I'm out :) [09:01] as you should, there's one particular mate and his wife in our group that are both screen watchers [09:03] yeah, we have the same. Sucks really that it's gotten like this [09:03] if i knew them better i'd definitely say something [09:04] hah, that never stops me :P [09:04] :D [09:04] the funny part is that i sometimes think, well if one guy wasn't checking his phone he'd not see me asking where they are! [09:07] :) [09:10] but yep, lessons for all to rediscover how to be 'present' are definitely tempting [12:16] isn't there a thing were everyone puts their phone face down on the table and first one to flip it pays penalty? [12:31] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkCI7Og9bk [12:51] zmoylan-pi: What I've seen before is sticking it in a pile and the first one to get their phone pays for the meal [13:11] isn't there a rule about going home with the person whose phone you pick up? [13:12] grr. what's wrong with mir on my raspi?! [13:14] Sep 26 20:32:07 localhost mir-kiosk.mir-kiosk[1138]: /snap/mir-kiosk/35/bin/run-miral: line 68: 1639 Floating point exception${SNAP}/usr/bin/${bin_to_run} --vt 1 --arw-file --file /run/mir_socket [13:54] Can't say I know much about ( read nothing ) about MIR [13:55] me either :-p [19:48] how does this wifiextender work? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cre/NETGEAR-EX2700-100UKS-WiFi-Range-Extender-Wi-Fi-Booster/B00NIUHAG6 [19:49] double hop, don't touch it! [19:49] a wired or wifi device has to send packets to it, which are then sent again to your main router - so it's a joke [19:50] my sister hasa dead zone in her house [19:51] i'd either: 1) cable and put an access point / wired socket on the end 2) try out powerline adapters (depending on the electrical setup in the property) [19:51] think she tried 2) [19:51] hrmm [19:53] access point is double hop but wired link is more reliable i guess [19:53] yeah it's totally moot when you have a proper cable between, a guy with a big house (technically two houses) i work for, i have a 6 AP setup going on [19:54] which AP are you using? [19:55] we've got quite an old setup there, as the place was kitted out from 2010... let's have a look what i'd pick today - is a hardwire run practical there? [19:56] super low end 2.4GHz only - https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-WA901ND-Wireless-Access-Point/dp/B013HCO332/ or dual band and -ac: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-WAC104-100UKS-WAC104-Business-Wireless/dp/B01LWUJU8H/ [19:57] you might want to dig further and find something moddable with an open firmware though, not sure [19:58] thx [19:58] np ^_^ [20:27] anyone had any exposure to older ADSL2 Draytek Vigor routers? curious whether it's worth trusting their VPN features [20:42] older... vpn... not words to enspire trust? :-) [20:42] indeed [20:42] and theirs is on an outdated firmware too XD only a small office but so many things for me to tackle [20:43] on these occasions i am reminded of the wise words in ronin... if there is any doubt there is no doubt :-) [20:43] :D [20:44] * zmoylan-pi makes note to watch great film again... [21:04] * zmoylan-pi currently is watching darmok of tng... great episode [21:29] 21st of September: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERoo4_xX478 [21:30] at least we didn't blow up the planet [21:31] well, today [21:31] er, well you know - then :P [21:33] youtube is annoying me with adverts for converse where miley cyrus is pretending to be a journalist/interviewer [21:34] the problem is she's interviewing people who just wanted exposure [21:34] it's painful [21:36] haha so the alert turned out to be just regular evangelical christian broadcasting the same thing they broadcast every day? [21:36] they're adverts.... pitched at people who watch adverts... you'd need to be some flippin eejit to like them [21:42] diddledan: no adblocker? o0 [21:45] whenever i see other peoples browsers i'm reminded of tv in idiocracy... http://www.bontheball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/idiocracy-ow-my-balls.jpg [21:46] I love Ow! My Balls! [21:47] they never bettered you've been framed [21:51] well except for the japanese game show endurance but there the pain was often mental [21:52] as a viewer or contestant? [21:52] i mean when you saw what they did to the contestants it made you realise why it took to late 70s to get that soldier to give up... [21:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEOz7gaFfmU [21:56] :S