[00:00] <daftykins> haha :>
[00:00] <zmoylan-pi> on my super deluxe tesco wharfdale region 0 dvd player...
[00:02] <daftykins> wow a wharfedale eh
[00:02] <zmoylan-pi> no expense spared
[00:02] <daftykins> cor this Firefox Quantum is fast
[00:03] <zmoylan-pi> i've read that
[00:03]  * zmoylan-pi sticks with vivaldi
[00:04] <daftykins> any particular reason, or just fond of underdogs?
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> deffo a fan of no#2. as casanundra the dwarf said, no#2 tries harder :-)
[00:06] <zmoylan-pi> firefox seems intent on butchering the ui i used to like, chrome is creepy google
[00:06] <zmoylan-pi> when i try chromium i just wonder how much google is left in it
[00:08] <zmoylan-pi> and i used to love opera back in the day
[00:09] <daftykins> not found any issues with FF myself over the moons
[00:09] <diddledan> my first DVD was "sphere"
[00:09] <diddledan> because it came with the DVD drive IIRC
[00:10] <daftykins> mine was Enemy of the State
[00:10] <zmoylan-pi> never seen either
[00:10] <daftykins> i'd just gotten the creative labs 6x drive, Dxr2 decoder card ... and the Pentium 1 wasn't fast enough to play it.
[00:11] <zmoylan-pi> you think that's bad. a mate order a region dvd from usa.  he spent 6 months of having card refused as he was not america, address refused as he was not american so he arranged an american mate to order, pack and deliver it
[00:12] <zmoylan-pi> every step of the way it failed for the most stupid of reasons. till finally it was on it's way.  it was going to arrive the next day.
[00:12] <daftykins> and it didn't have Irish subs?
[00:12]  * daftykins ducks
[00:12] <zmoylan-pi> and someone broke in and stole his dvd player with region switching ability and giant ass tv....
[00:13] <daftykins> !!!
[00:13] <zmoylan-pi> he asks me if i can play it... i asked him to nick the bosses ultraportable tablet jobbie. had a dvd player... you could change the region 3 times... we changed it twice that day :-)
[00:16] <daftykins> heh yeah won't have had the disk space for a rip back then, were it even possible!
[00:16] <daftykins> whether DVD Jon had been bored yet or not...
[00:17] <zmoylan-pi> it was... but it needed 5gb of space free to rip it... but i had no region 1 dvd player that would read it
[00:18] <zmoylan-pi> i was ripping a lot of dvds at work at the time... at night
[00:23] <zmoylan-pi> there was great chinese vcd copy software that worked fine with a bit of adjustment
[00:27] <daftykins> :D
[00:28] <diddledan> Creating snapcraft-temptedly-defunct-ashlee
[00:28] <diddledan> I love those names
[00:29] <daftykins> ceiling cat loves snapcraft
[00:29] <daftykins> oh i have to sleep, the window guy is coming back at 7am ;_;
[00:29] <diddledan> :-o
[00:29] <daftykins> but maybe i'll have finished windows!
[00:29] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[00:29] <diddledan> that's crazy oily
[00:30] <daftykins> yee it's quite mean
[00:30] <daftykins> and the window is in my bedroom so i can't even slink off!
[00:31] <zmoylan-pi> you can do a sharon stone moment :-P
[00:33] <diddledan> you need to open the door in your sexy neglige
[00:34] <daftykins> instead i'm lying in bed and Mischief is cleaning her... rear on the top of the sheets perhaps
[00:34] <daftykins> maybe with a few dead mice draped around for lulz
[00:41] <daftykins> g'night team \o
[05:07] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:17] <diplo> Morning all
[07:17] <SuperMatt> Good morning
[07:27] <MooDoo> morning diplo SuperMatt
[07:46] <diplo> Nearly Friday! How are you both ?
[07:47] <MooDoo> diplo: it's annoying how you can come into work excited about the day ahead, read your emails and then be in a total funk :D
[07:47] <diplo> I want to graph data flow on 3 x Draytek Routers, any of you guys recommend anything ?
[07:47] <diplo> I don't think I ever come to work excited to be honest anymore
[07:47] <diplo> But I see your point
[07:49] <MooDoo> https://www.draytek.co.uk/archive/kb_vigor_dataflowmonitor.html  this help diplo ?
[07:49] <diplo> yeah I use that already, but more I want to collate it somewhere - use SNMP most likely - we monitor the routers already, but want to grab the info remotely to see peaks etc
[07:51] <diplo> opennms looks a bit heavy
[07:53] <MooDoo> nagios? spiceworks?
[07:54] <diplo> We use Nagios ( well I do, not sure anyone else has ever worked on it ) - just looked like a complete PITA, use solarwinds at a previous job, not after a long term solution really but I guess I'll give them all a try
[08:04] <SuperMatt> Monitor nothing! Build for failure
[08:11] <diplo> heh, we've been like that for the last 25 years
[08:11] <diplo> I'm trying to change the company, they're all very old staff and change is hard
[08:12] <MooDoo> diplo: sounds familiar
[08:20] <diplo> Really need to find a job elsewhere, but generally it's easy enough, just the frustration mounts at times
[08:21] <MooDoo> diplo: you sound like me mate lol.....
[08:21] <diplo> heh, my problem I don't do change very often, last job was 13 years, one previous to that was 6, this ones now at 7 :)
[08:22] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah 5 years is my max for the last 4 jobs lol
[08:22] <MooDoo> diplo: ever thought about starting something yourself?
[08:22] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:24] <diplo> MooDoo: I have lots, my biggest issue is billing people, I suck... I find it hard enough where I am now, I think we're overcharging them :D
[08:25] <diplo> I have a few customers outside work, and sure I could get loads more, they basically pay me what they think I'm worth, works for me
[08:26] <diplo> A friend of mine has also suggested some work, just trying to talk him into it.
[08:27] <diplo> SAP upgrades, he'd do the SAP stuff, I'd do everything else. 50k for a weekends work
[08:39] <MooDoo> diplo: sweet, i've been thinking about doing linux stuff myself, but I'm not brave enough lol
[08:41] <diplo> This would be both linux and windows, I guess the aim is to start without leaving your current job, pick up clientelle until your at a level it needs to be full time
[08:42] <diplo> Enough work to do full time ?
[08:42] <diplo> Can come work for us and sort our company out if you like, could do with someone in the nott office to bang heads :d
[08:43] <MooDoo> diplo: i'd end up killing someone, i'm gobby and loud lol
[08:43] <MooDoo> i'm also tempted to code a web application something for dentists or something like that....
[08:44] <MooDoo> full server with os and application to be installed onsite.....something like that any way
[08:44] <diplo> Problem with that is it would have to be passing lots of checks for data ?
[08:44] <diplo> But sounds like a money making exercise :)
[08:44] <diplo> From what I've seen of their software, it sucks
[08:44] <MooDoo> just in my thoughts at the moment.
[08:50] <MooDoo> brb
[08:53] <diplo> Worth a thought, 10 years ago I was going to write something for takeaways to order online... mates said it was a stupid idea, no we have justeat and a multitude of others :(
[08:55] <daftykins> heh, doh!
[08:55] <daftykins> even the rock has gotten on the bandwagon with food.gg - i see folks with tablets on behind the counter awaiting the orders coming in
[08:59] <diplo> heh, defo the future! although I do hate people being on their phones etc all the time. I ban it when I'm out :)
[09:01] <daftykins> as you should, there's one particular mate and his wife in our group that are both screen watchers
[09:03] <diplo> yeah, we have the same. Sucks really that it's gotten like this
[09:03] <daftykins> if i knew them better i'd definitely say something
[09:04] <diplo> hah, that never stops me :P
[09:04] <daftykins> :D
[09:04] <daftykins> the funny part is that i sometimes think, well if one guy wasn't checking his phone he'd not see me asking where they are!
[09:07] <diplo> :)
[09:10] <daftykins> but yep, lessons for all to rediscover how to be 'present' are definitely tempting
[12:16] <zmoylan-pi> isn't there a thing were everyone puts their phone face down on the table and first one to flip it pays penalty?
[12:31] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkCI7Og9bk
[12:51] <diplo> zmoylan-pi: What I've seen before is sticking it in a pile and the first one to get their phone pays for the meal
[13:11] <diddledan> isn't there a rule about going home with the person whose phone you pick up?
[13:12] <diddledan> grr. what's wrong with mir on my raspi?!
[13:14] <diddledan> Sep 26 20:32:07 localhost mir-kiosk.mir-kiosk[1138]: /snap/mir-kiosk/35/bin/run-miral: line 68:  1639 Floating point exception${SNAP}/usr/bin/${bin_to_run} --vt 1 --arw-file --file /run/mir_socket
[13:54] <diplo> Can't say I know much about ( read nothing ) about MIR
[13:55] <diddledan> me either :-p
[19:48] <foobarry> how does this wifiextender work? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cre/NETGEAR-EX2700-100UKS-WiFi-Range-Extender-Wi-Fi-Booster/B00NIUHAG6
[19:49] <daftykins> double hop, don't touch it!
[19:49] <daftykins> a wired or wifi device has to send packets to it, which are then sent again to your main router - so it's a joke
[19:50] <foobarry> my sister hasa dead zone in her house
[19:51] <daftykins> i'd either: 1) cable and put an access point / wired socket on the end 2) try out powerline adapters (depending on the electrical setup in the property)
[19:51] <foobarry> think she tried 2)
[19:51] <daftykins> hrmm
[19:53] <foobarry> access point is double hop but wired link is more reliable i guess
[19:53] <daftykins> yeah it's totally moot when you have a proper cable between, a guy with a big house (technically two houses) i work for, i have a 6 AP setup going on
[19:54] <foobarry> which AP are you using?
[19:55] <daftykins> we've got quite an old setup there, as the place was kitted out from 2010... let's have a look what i'd pick today - is a hardwire run practical there?
[19:56] <daftykins> super low end 2.4GHz only - https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-WA901ND-Wireless-Access-Point/dp/B013HCO332/ or dual band and -ac: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-WAC104-100UKS-WAC104-Business-Wireless/dp/B01LWUJU8H/
[19:57] <daftykins> you might want to dig further and find something moddable with an open firmware though, not sure
[19:58] <foobarry> thx
[19:58] <daftykins> np ^_^
[20:27] <daftykins> anyone had any exposure to older ADSL2 Draytek Vigor routers? curious whether it's worth trusting their VPN features
[20:42] <zmoylan-pi> older... vpn... not words to enspire trust? :-)
[20:42] <daftykins> indeed
[20:42] <daftykins> and theirs is on an outdated firmware too XD only a small office but so many things for me to tackle
[20:43] <zmoylan-pi> on these occasions i am reminded of the wise words in ronin... if there is any doubt there is no doubt :-)
[20:43] <daftykins> :D
[20:44]  * zmoylan-pi makes note to watch great film again... 
[21:04]  * zmoylan-pi currently is watching darmok of tng... great episode
[21:29] <diddledan> 21st of September: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERoo4_xX478
[21:30] <diddledan> at least we didn't blow up the planet
[21:31] <daftykins> well, today
[21:31] <daftykins> er, well you know - then :P
[21:33] <diddledan> youtube is annoying me with adverts for converse where miley cyrus is pretending to be a journalist/interviewer
[21:34] <diddledan> the problem is she's interviewing people who just wanted exposure
[21:34] <diddledan> it's painful
[21:36] <ali1234> haha so the alert turned out to be just regular evangelical christian broadcasting the same thing they broadcast every day?
[21:36] <zmoylan-pi> they're adverts.... pitched at people who watch adverts... you'd need to be some flippin eejit to like them
[21:42] <daftykins> diddledan: no adblocker? o0
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> whenever i see other peoples browsers i'm reminded of tv in idiocracy... http://www.bontheball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/idiocracy-ow-my-balls.jpg
[21:46] <diddledan> I love Ow! My Balls!
[21:47] <zmoylan-pi> they never bettered you've been framed
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> well except for the japanese game show endurance but there the pain was often mental
[21:52] <daftykins> as a viewer or contestant?
[21:52] <zmoylan-pi> i mean when you saw what they did to the contestants it made you realise why it took to late 70s to get that soldier to give up...
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEOz7gaFfmU
[21:56] <daftykins> :S