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 @MatthewHodgson: Can you help me with the nheko instructions? I have an issue with opengl.
 Matthew, you there yet?
 (Photo, 345x155) https://irc.ubports.com/pJH926e0/file_899.jpg
[02:30] <tgBot> Ibrahim Asiri was added by: Ibrahim Asiri
[02:30] <tgBot> Angel Parada was added by: Angel Parada
 Welcome Ibrahim @angparada
 Gent, somebody try to install ubport on the Nexus 4, and it doesn't respond at the push, any idea ? Locked ? cable ? The person can install Android rom and Sailfist on this phone
 @UniversalSuperBox, Try it on matrix in the ubports room https://matrix.to/#/#ubports:matrix.org
 @jsalatas, If you want to be dragged out of your house in the middle of the night and get shot, yeah
 Welcome @angparada
 @Lorxu, The guns of Brixton ;)
 Well, we were talking about China, but the UK definitely is tending more and more towards that too
 @Lorxu, IMHO it's a global trend :(
 @jsalatas, VPNs get blocked too now. People from my company have issues going into our network when they are in China. Plus, for a good VPN you need to pay monthly fees which most CHinese cannot afford
 @Flohack, Yeah! You need to pay for that :(
 @Flohack, Any good recommendations?
 Privacy respecting and fast? Or is the balance not easily found?
 @pavi4de, We need to need to set up our own VPN infrastracture. We have done it in the past in Greece, Turkey and Egypt (during the arab spring), so I gues it's feasible ;)
 In some countries the laws are too crazy. They restrict people from running VPN server.
 OK! Those will run only VPN clients ;)
 In germany until last year or so it was a pain to run hotspots.
 Even today go to germany and roam around, you will rarely see public hotspots.
 Poor Freifunk guys did lot of work to get the infra going. As individual users are shit scared to run a open wifi.
 Freifunk people had to use free vpn combined with tor which were slow to send the connection out of the country to escape from the restrictions.
 @pavi4de, Actually her in California, you can find almost everywhere free wifi and electricity for charging your device. At the same time it's impossible to find free food and water :(
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 @pavi4de, Matrix.org riot.im with a homeserver ...
 How can I change useragent  from UT webbrowser?
 The only way is to edit the source somewhere (Possibly UserAgent.qml) under /usr/share/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Web
 or add it to ua-overrides.js in that same directory if it's for a single site
[07:37] <tgBot> David Allios was added by: David Allios
[07:37] <tgBot> <David Allios> Hi, everyone
[07:40] <tgBot> <David Allios> I've a question about Ubports. It's possible run an apk ? (machine virtual android ?) I don't found a recent response to this question.
 @DanChapman, Thanks! Trying that. 👍
[07:46] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> @DanChapman, Hi, I have installed the click package via UT Tweak tool and the two command in a terminal but still no notifications...btw buzzer never worked. Btw, How can I send the log file from UT Tweaktool here?
 @David Allios, No sorry. This is not on the roadmap now. There is a proof-of-concept here: https://anbox.io/ - But there is no usable implementation yet.
 Does UBports supports USB OTG to plug pendrives in the phone?
 @Frank Gores, See https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues/268 update coming today to work around it
 @Flohack Thx for your response I'll check that.
 Does UBports supports USB OTG to plug pendrives in the phone?
 Dekko 2 in my N4 doesnt have sound notification. However it vibrates when email comes. Panel notification also works.
 @osvr0, I read a Toshiba 1TB storage disk
 @DanChapman, 👍. Thank you.
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 Why my ut nano editor over adb is throwing some "can now unjustify" everytime when I press enter and same time it works in phone just fine? 😳
 I have updated one of my BQ E4.5 to r2 fine; how can I get Dekko2 installed?
 ^it's in th eopen store
 you can find it in the openstore
 This was my 1st idea as well, but I could no find it with search
[08:33] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> @DanChapman, Ok, thanks. Will wait for that.
 I have a question re the telegam-cli (the console telegram client): I see, for example the last message as: "[10:33]  UBports Supergroup [ENGLISH] Frank Gores »»» [reply to ] Ok, thanks. Will wait for that." -- what is missing in the "[reply to ]   ???
 Anyone else have unstable 3g connection in nexus4? It may sometimes work longer times but when it crashes both gsm and data disappears for few seconds and comes then back. With android it was rock stable..
 Is there somewhere I can read features planned for the OTA 3?
 @PacoIgnazioTaiboII, Always to be found here: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/milestones
 Thanks a lot, Florian!
[09:28] <Jessedhammu> hay
[09:28] <Jessedhammu> i need to install ubunut on my Sony Xperia SL
[09:28] <Jessedhammu> how do i do that .?
 All supported devices are here: https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
[09:33] <Jessedhammu> tgBot: I know that you stupid bot. i want to install it on a phone which is not listed in the list
 ehm... I'm not a bot... the IRC channel is bridged to telegram supergroup.
 If you want to install UT in a phone that is not listed, you'll probably have to port it yourself.
 @Jessedhammu, Can you be a bit more polite please? We are all humans, and its easy: there are supported devices and unsupported devices. Yours is not supported. No reason to flame
 If the bot gets angry will suddently make your device explode.
 @UniversalSuperBox, ... what is the scope of what just happened? I don't really know what the impact of this might be.
[09:54] <Jessedhammu> Oops, My sincere apologies
 @samitormanen, In my bq e4.5 is equal, vibration is ok and don't sound
 I think we need to wait an update of dekko2. In devel notifications not working neither.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/PHOAcapZ/file_901.jpg
 Can hou check wit uvolman if all sound levels are non zero? And check if the device is not on silent mode to make sure
 Testing now on FP2. Waiting for my test emailarrive to arrive...
 15.04/devel r156 btw
 There is no sound file set for the notifications yet
 ^ok that solves that mystery 😊 still waiting for my test mail though...
[10:34] <Matthew[m]> nfsprodriver / UniversalSuperBox: sorry, i was asleep (in london timezone); feel free to ask about the opengl issue
 Don't say sorry for your right to sleep 😄 I did the steps from your instructions until I stuck at the configure command.
 Fwd from nfsprodriver: Note: Dropped compiler flags '-pthread' when detecting library 'glib'. … Note: No wayland-egl support detected. Cross-toolkit compatibility disabled. … ERROR: Feature 'opengles2' was enabled, but the pre-condition 'config.win32 || (!config.watchos && !features.opengl-desktop && libs.opengl_es2)' failed. … ERROR: The OpenGL functionality tests failed! … You might need to modify the include and library search paths by
[10:53] <tgBot> QMAKE_INCDIR_OPENGL[_ES2], … QMAKE_LIBDIR_OPENGL[_ES2] and QMAKE_LIBS_OPENGL[_ES2] in the mkspec for your platform.
 Is it possible to compile deb package for UT with my ubuntu desktop?
 @YougoChats, Do you still have dekko from the canonical store installed?
 i have both dekkos installed
 could that cause conflits?
 i think both are from the open store
 @YougoChats, You won't get notifications showing up then. There's a bug/missing feature in url-dispatcher. see my comment here https://github.com/ubports/ubports-touch/issues/268#issuecomment-332297353 there will be a workaround in the next update or you can uninstall original dekko to get notifications working now
 heh. it worked before though. oud with the old, in with the new i say
 the only thing besides notifications, would be attachements for me, but i get that's a WIP
[11:22] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> @DanChapman, Nice and good, but dekko2 is not suitable yet to be the one and only mail client.
 @YougoChats, Yeah i know but I think that was just luck. It seems more than one app registering for the same scheme is just undefined behaviour. So yes they worked initially but something changed. Possibly with the OTA and now it doesn't.
 @Frank Gores, Yep and it says that in the description in the openstore
[11:23] <tgBot> <Frank Gores> And I have both dekkos installed aswell just to follow your efforts...
 👍
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tC0HSzfq/file_903.png
 https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_commit.png
 😂
 Should wifi hotspot work with nexus4?
 i like the idea of dekko secretly running on squirrels 👍
 I think it was disabled for the nexus 4
 @DanChapman, confirm
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/mz8ciJgr/file_904.mp4
 the squirrels are a bit too fast though. i get notifications now, but the squirrels remove the notification from the list immediately. it doesn't stick
 ^that mail cout is about right for my gmail :-P
 inb4 Dekko is renamed to MailSquirrel
 It's like K-9 except more scattered
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/uiFUG9dk/file_905.mp4
 @YougoChats, can't log into Google with dekko 2
 @YougoChats, That's odd. They should only be removed if either the message get's marked read or it is removed from inbox (delete/move). Are the messages still there and unread in your inbox after the notification dissapears?
 @looney_tkp, You'll need to use an app password for Google accounts
 @looney_tkp, Yeah squirrels don't like googles "less secure" nuts
 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en
 @mariogrip, nexus 5 @mariogrip
 @UniversalSuperBox, thanks
 @DanChapman, hahaha
 @DanChapman, they're still there, but marked as read
 i didn't read them
 i figured out a lil workaround for my problem
 @DanChapman, Any idea why?
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1434591
 @samitormanen, iirc instability. the whole wifi setup went wonky when activated, so canonical disabled it for Nexus 4
 @looney_tkp, when i try getting a logcat, the phone never shuts down. it powers off when idle … so before switching back to android i decided to watch free xD
 it's still up, i guess i gotta watch free forever
 @YougoChats, 😳
 since there's a process running, it it's still powered on
 been watching free for 2hrs 11mins
 anyway, can anyone help me out with how to autorun a script on boot ?
 @DanChapman, Ok. Thanks!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/iG6p4lmQ/file_907.jpg
 @looney_tkp, i can make the script, i don't know how to make it run automatically after booting on ubtouch
 Nexus5 connected to nexus4 hotspot. 😁
 @looney_tkp, upstart job?
 @samitormanen, kk ? damn i miss kk xD
 Working good.
 @DanChapman, :/
 Some gui would be good if someone can do it..
 @DanChapman, upstart job script-name ?
 I used this script. https://github.com/oblique/create_ap
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Q6y6WH2E/file_908.mp4
 it's working now
 you should fire that squirrel^
 If someone wants to try, only dependency missing was hostapd, so I installed it. Mounted filesystem writeable. Git cloned script and installed it. Then "sudo ./create_ap no-virt wlan0 rmnet_usb0 MyAccessPoint MyPassPhrase"
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 @DanChapman nice how dekko2 displays New messages in the APP thumbnail in quick launch 😎 kudos!
 Unfortunately I can not forward emails including attachments. Is that right, or do I make a mistake?
 It should work. If the message being forwarded has attachments then  the whole message get's wrapped up as an rfc822 .eml attachment.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/nGsnV0O5/file_910.png
 @YougoChats, This happens when you got a null ptr exception with your squirrels?
 @YougoChats, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 In File Manager Dev, how can I change file's name? With native app can't either.
 Swipe from file to right, then pen icon if I remember right.
 In ListView. We're still not finished yet and we must rework the icon view.
 @DanChapman Dekko2 is doing some seriously weird things here. I clicked a notification and dekko opened, so far so good, but then it started opening emails one by one, sliding in from the right until it crashed.
 now it it wont open
 Did you have the "Unread" filter selected?
 That can happen with that filter selected. It's a regression that appeared after keyboard navigation was added to the message list as that changed how messages are opened. If it's not that could i have the log please 😊
 Yes you can have the log, just tell me how to fetch it
 ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-dekko2.dekkoproject_dekko_0.1.3.log you can grab it with adb pull or rsync or any other way you like 😊
 @Flohack was there doaler-app update? Suddenly I have phrases to translate 🙂
 @thepeter, dialer app was not in weblate at all maybe?
 Oh okay, that would be it :) thanks
 Milan  not sure if you knew it but we refrenced you as the inspiration for this audiocast ;) … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubports-audiocast-009-devels-and-parenting-79
 @bastos777 just discovered a bug with the forwarding a message with attachments where the attachments are empty because they weren't synced locally first. They need to be opened/downloaded on the device before forwarding the message. So i'll create an issue for that one. If your issue is different could you create an issue with reproduction steps please.
 @DanChapman, Sent you the log
 @DanChapman, Would that be linked to the inability to download/open attachements manually too?
 Well they download and dekko dispatches the url but there's just no apps that accept file:// urls 😊 WHich is how it works on desktop. Needs changing for content hub
 You can find the downloaded attachments in ~/.cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/attachments
 So librem has achieved 56.5% of there target.. what's your guess will they complete their target in next 24 days
 Honest answer? I dont know. But we will reach out to them now to get more information on whats their plan for the future, even if they dont succeed
 can't see it happening tbh
 Eh, keep an open mind. The worst part of the Linux community is that we crap on any upcoming players
 yes https://www.delijati.net/image.png (chart with extrapolation)
 But this has been discussed here a lot. Forums are asking us to cover it again tomorrow.
 Not crapping on anything. WOuld love to see it succeed
 @DanChapman, +1
 Me too. Here a link (sorry german) from a quite big magazine at least in Germany: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/KDE-unterstuetzt-Purisms-freies-Smartphone-3834155.html
 @DanChapman, Is it than enough to download to succeed forwarding?
 Telling also they are working with KDE
 I wonder why Canonical is not supporting this.
 @bastos777, Well the bug i found, the message forwards fine it's just the attachments of the original message are empty. Is that what you are seeing?
 @twinkybot, Because Canonical does not make a phone platform
 😂
 true
 They haven't for about 6 months now
 Time ^flies
 @DanChapman i logged in but only spam messages synced, lol
 also contacts app is no showing some contacts
 @DanChapman, I tried... Downloaded an attachemt (without ability to open it) ... forwarded the message to my account ... forwarded message includes attachment 😀. ... orgininal message was not visible in 'all inboxes' anymore 🤔
 @UniversalSuperBox, agree in part.  However, question for you (s): … If operation librem succeeds, the bigger question is 'what about Ubuntu Touch"?  Do we join forces and fuse it all together?  Do we run to our own beat?  These are the reasons I don't like too many similar projects.  We need at least one 'big player'.  We need one top-shelf hands down winner to exist in the market as an "Android/Ios killer"  In this way we should all be worki
[16:23] <tgBot> on the same team.  Once this first goal is acheived then if you want to go out and branch and fork yourselves, feel free - say I
 Why do we need to win?
 Desktop Linux never won either, but its diversity makes it amazing for those who do use it
 I would hate Linux if <insert DE>  would've won and there were no other choices
 Sure, we do a lot of repeated work, but it isn't for nothing
 And projects like Halium help standardize the important parts
 And Qt became the de-facto standard for mobile apps, to the point the different libre OSses can run the same apps
 Isn't that enough?
 I'd argue that halium + app being cross-mobile OS is the perfect amount of standardization
 It gives us a mobile world where we can choose OS like DE and run whatever apps we like best
[16:31] <tgBot> * mariogrip loves @wayneoutthere and @exar_kun
 @Lorxu, ok. fair points. :)
 because it's about WINNNING!!!!!
 @mariogrip, That sounds like the start of a good shonen ai
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/J3CYqpve/file_911.mp4
 Hmm I've been losing signal and just outright missing calls even with signal since a few days (not sure if since OTA2)
 I had the opposite effect from OTA-2, haha
 when I restart the phone, or switch to flightmode and back, it works again, but at some point my phone just starts ignoring calls again
 FP2, 15.04/devel
 @YougoChats, could you send me `sudo /system/bin/logcat -b radio` logs when this happens
 Sure will do
 there has not been any changes to the radio part in a while, so should not be something with OTA2
 I know i had some drops with the my bq 4.5 back in the canonical days, but havne't since any since. but this is a big issue that needs to be fixed quick
 At this point it might as well be my service provider🤷🏽
 @mariogrip, also be aware this will incude IMEi number, so please remove this or send it to me privatly
[16:43] <Matthew[m]> @nfsprodriver: you may need to grab libgles2-mesa-dev on the phone (sorry for lag)
[16:44] <Matthew[m]> i will check if i missed listing other deps
[16:44] <Matthew[m]> the first bit of the recipe was written from memory :S
 @mariogrip, Thanks for the heads up
 did someone say... cannon?
 (Photo, 400x304) https://irc.ubports.com/eBR1zXJl/file_913.jpg
 (Photo, 400x304) https://irc.ubports.com/OebVCBTq/file_915.jpg
[16:56] <tgBot> howie sidekick was added by: howie sidekick
[16:57] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @wayneoutthere, Hi Wayne, You are fantastic, I just listened. I was so suprissed. Just was going to thank You. Very nice episode and very good idea: Ubuntu touch for children and parents of parents.
[17:00] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> There should be some Terminal command restriction for OpenStore, adding new contacts to Telegram and default apps without need of connection like endless os is offering. We should keep the phone smart.
 @wayneoutthere can you make one for ooh-bun-too as well?
 @UniversalSuperBox, hahaha.  No.  I will not encourage Mr. Grips
 @Milan Korecky, the next episode will get a lot of people 'interested'.  I might make a teaser... haha
[17:08] <tgBot> <howie sidekick> hello everybody, a quick comment from a noob: loving the work of all the developers.....have just installed on 2 OPO phones with a view to using them as daily drivers.....I will be providing support to the other user....gulp.....am testing now and feeling very positive lol.....keep up the good work.....we will both be making a financial contribution in the next few days...kudos
 @mariogrip, i got a log out, but what string am i looking for if i want to remove my IMEI?
 @howie sidekick, Awesome!
 @howie sidekick, Your words are encouraging, Mr. Sidekick.  Thank you
[17:22] <tgBot> <howie sidekick> @UniversalSuperBox, I think UB just might be awesome for what we use the phones for.
 @howie sidekick, Ubuntu Touch ★is★ awesome for phones ;)
[18:01] <tgBot> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai was added by: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai
 @gurucubano, With 'history dump' you can make a backup of an entire group. … https://github.com/tvdstaaij/telegram-history-dump
 @DanChapman, Try to read about 150,000 or even more unread messages from 150 groups in Telegram.
 STOP THE PRESS!  THIS JUST IN!   … THE LATEST FROM THE UBUNTU TOUCH NEWS DESK! … https://soundcloud.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-news-desk-170929
 @wayneoutthere, the love for you is rising!
 @wayneoutthere, btw, both opo and hammerhead is fixed now
 @mariogrip, we'll have to add that to the next one ;)
 @mariogrip, Everyone loves Wayne
 👍
 @PhoenixLandPirate, this reminds me of a far side comic... I wonder if I can find it....  you see, my name is designed to be *absolutely boring*.
 and so to compensate, I have to be ridiculous.
 sweet.  I found the comic. … https://imgur.com/r/comics/ntXyP
 @wayneoutthere, *feels tempted to join in* :P
 the internet is good that way.  i can just keep creating content.
[19:36] <xorpad> how do I go about contributing to and possibly forking possibly just contributing to the hammerhead build?
[19:37] <xorpad> Like is there a repo?
[19:37] <xorpad> I only find ways to get the builds not the source
 my mom just told me that if I giver her my nexus5... she can trade it in when purchasing a samsung galaxy and she will get a second samsung galaxy free
 would it be practical to do this and install ubports on a galaxy to replace a nexus 5?
[19:37] <xorpad> samsungs suck if you are into custom os or firmware
[19:37] <xorpad> or even root
[19:38] <xorpad> they also ship really bloated so root is requried to get the full power and battery life the device is capable of
[19:38] <xorpad> because you need root to uninstall all the things you're never going to use
 @Christopher, Unfortunately not
[19:39] <xorpad> I do android rom development, and I've worked with samsung stuff, it's mostly proprietary and what they have opensourced is not complete or entirely useful without a lot of work
[19:39] <xorpad> nexus 5 is better if you want to customize stuff
[19:39] <xorpad> unless there's something wrong with your nexus 5 i'd keep it
[19:39] <xorpad> mine is still 90% battery health after like 5 years
 nexus5 is working great with ubports
 ok thanks I will hold on to my nexus5
[19:40] <xorpad> Also, you can use franco kernel with the nexus 5, which is probably the best kernel in existance, also you can use ubuntu touch, and there is drivers in the linux kernel if you want to roll a custom os based on it
 too bad about samsung :/
[19:40] <xorpad> and multirom works on nexus 5
 @Christopher, It isn't a supported phone at the moment and is unlikely to be until some way down the line, if at all. Porting to a new phone is a complicated business
[19:42] <xorpad> I want to use ubuntu touch with multirom but multirom manager can't find the ubuntu touch files anymore(probably because it's abandonware)
[19:42] <xorpad> i was thinking of forking multirom and continuing development and porting it to all my devices
 @Christopher, If you want to install Ubport in 3-4 years, take the Samsung 😂 Nexus 5 is the culprit !
[19:45] <xorpad> don't take the samsung unless the specific model has TWRP and or a way to root it
[19:45] <xorpad> Because samsung's touchwiz(their android fork) is bloated to all heck
[19:46] <xorpad> and you need root to remove/disable stuff in order for it to be good
[19:46] <xorpad> also, I don't think any decent samsung phones have opensource drivers at this point
[19:46] <black_pixel> o
[19:47] <xorpad> they use proprietary hardware and release the sources with missing components, not even binary blob drivers which is needed for custom roms
[19:49] <xorpad> I had to reverse engineer some stuff when I was making a rom for my samsung phone... nexus 5 is supported without any work required to build a rom, and has drivers in the mainline linux kernel
[19:50] <xorpad> Christopher: Keep your nexus 5, if you get credit for a tradein, buy a cheap possibly broken but still seems like it works used phone and use that for the trade-in
[19:50] <xorpad> Spend like $50 on some cheap chinese android phone or somethind and use that to trade for the new samsung
[19:51] <xorpad> just keep your nexus 5... it's got lots of love from many projects that most phones don't have support for
[19:52] <xorpad> Unless the battery won't hold a charge anymore or some other age related issue
[19:54] <xorpad> Also, you should REALLY check out franco kernel for your nexus 5
[19:55] <xorpad> I have backported many features from it into my little os project which is linux based. I'm thinking of dropping it though and making non-free extensions for ubuntu touch instead of building a custom linux build to run my platform on
[19:57] <xorpad> Right now I have 2 parts, a linux based framework for the system, and a python -> elf compiler for arm 7, which is designed to later have more arm based archs added
[19:59] <xorpad> I am still investigating ubuntu touch... It may be that it already has most of the work done aside from the compiler, and that I can make a product for use with it instead of writing a whole os on top of the linux kernel. But I haven't decided yet, I need to peruse the touch sources before I consider it. And if I do it, I'll probably at some point port it to some of the more popular phones.
[20:00] <xorpad> I want my compiler/app system to be non-free though. It will be opensource and free use to and modify for end-users but I don't want my code getting used by companies to profit from my work without me getting a cut
[20:01] <xorpad> Like, I would hate to see my stuff end up in ios or android being shipped on devices, seeing manufactures of devices profiting from my work
[20:01] <xorpad> but I want it to be free for end-users
 @Lorxu, 👍
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 Ubuntu Desktop next release has discontinued 32 bits,  is UBports 64 bits arquitecture?
 @osvr0, They discontinued x86 32 bit. And only for the desktop ISOs. ARM is not affected.
[23:23] <tgBot> <Jose Barakat> Hi! I want to have UBPorts on my next tablet. What device do you guys recommend? Is it a stable/mature version? Can I find a good and growing apps market? Can I use the terminal the same way I use it in Ubuntu? Thanks!
 @UniversalSuperBox, UBports supported smartphones are 32 bits hardware?
 They are armv7
 32bits, but not x86
 Intel phones are AMD64 anyway