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karstensrageinfinity, hope everything is well, maybe we could pick up next week?02:16
karstensrageif you need time, i totally understand though02:16
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ginggskirkland: hi! calc-stats FTBFS https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calc-stats/1.4-0ubuntu1 and the README file seems to relate to a different package06:42
LocutusOfBorgricotz, what is the rationale for that ca-certificates-java patch?06:49
LocutusOfBorgas said on -release some days ago, the "fix" would be to not have postinsts for circular dependencies06:49
LocutusOfBorgand/or to merge the two packages into a single one06:49
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ricotzLocutusOfBorg, hi, the rationale is obviously to fix its installation on armhf and therefore fixing builds of its rdepends like rustc on artful07:05
ricotzLocutusOfBorg, I don't care about a better fix, just about it to be fixed and this did the trick here07:06
ricotze.g. this requires to be built, but fails due to this problem -- https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/rust-updates/+build/1351240207:07
LocutusOfBorgproblem is that I don't get it, I think I can sponsor if you make me understand that change07:44
LocutusOfBorg maybe just for artful, we'll see07:44
ricotzLocutusOfBorg, the problem is due to a openjdk-8 change the installation paths on armhf are different from other archs, ca-certificates-java mimics the jvm-*.cfg to work with a half-installed openjdk07:48
LocutusOfBorgok but does that temp_jvm_cfg file gets removed after?07:48
LocutusOfBorgwhy is armhf different?07:48
ricotzit will be overwritten by the real one07:48
LocutusOfBorgwhy did this happen only on the last nmu?07:48
ricotzLocutusOfBorg, don't ask me, ask the openjdk maintainer07:49
LocutusOfBorgok, can this change make the nmu1 reverted?07:49
LocutusOfBorge.g. switching again to openjdk807:49
ricotzthis is not related to the nmu07:49
LocutusOfBorgack07:49
ricotzopenjdk being the cause is the reason I pinged d*oko about it07:51
ricotzI will be back in a few hours07:51
LocutusOfBorgI'm sponsoring it07:51
LocutusOfBorgwith some changelog changes07:52
ricotzLocutusOfBorg, thanks10:38
LocutusOfBorgricotz, uploaded in debian10:41
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sochey13:48
socis there a reason why wwidgets is still compiled against Gtk2 as a backend instead of Gtk3?13:48
jbichasoc: it's a lot of work, there was some discussion on https://bugs.debian.org/79022213:55
ubottuDebian bug 790222 in src:wxwidgets3.0 "wxwidgets3.0: depends on libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 which is deprecated" [Serious,Fixed]13:55
socjbicha: thanks, just read the messages14:07
socso the old webkit dep is dropped, wxwidgets can use gtk3, but they haven't ported their webkit dep yet?14:07
jbichawebkit is not the problem, it's making sure that everything wxwidgets works fine with gtk314:10
socah, so wxwidgets could be built with gtk3, but people aren't sure if that wouldn't introduce bugs in applications using wxwidgets?14:11
socjbicha: another, related question: gksu still depends on Gtk2, is there a Gtk3 replacement?14:13
socit looks like MATE ported gksu to gtk3 ..14:14
jbichaapps should use PolicyKit14:14
socjbicha: what's the recommendation for launching apps with root privs?14:15
soce.g. gksu synaptic?14:15
jbichathe recommendation is don't do it ;)14:15
socI beleive synaptic wont work any other way14:15
jbichayou can try gnome-packagekit as an alternative to synaptic14:16
socuargh, caja-gksu depends on gksu?14:17
socjust tried gnome-packagekit, that's sadly not what I want to use14:18
socjfc: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=84218414:28
ubottuDebian bug 842184 in policykit-1-gnome "policykit-1: synaptic-pkexec no more work" [Serious,Fixed]14:28
jbichaUbuntu MATE 17.10 uses caja-admin instead of caja-gksu by default14:28
socI'm not sure caja-admin is what I want, it also pulls in a lot of dependencies14:30
socpkexec with those fixes mentioned in the bug report works!14:35
socjust got rid of gksu14:35
socthanks!14:35
jdstrandcyphermox: hey-- curious if you saw my comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1697730/comments/3214:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1697730 in nplan (Ubuntu Artful) "Long boot time due to systemd-networkd-wait-online.service failure" [High,Triaged]14:59
cyphermoxjdstrand: there was an issue with systemd to begin with, xnox was fixing this week15:10
cyphermoxbut otherwise, yes, networkd should always be running, just not doing anything if it doesn't have configuration to deal with (and it should not have any on a desktop)15:10
cyphermoxthe missing NM file sounds like an upgrade bug maybe?15:11
seb128slangasek, bdmurray, is anyone from foundations coming in that stucked updates meeting?15:40
bdmurrayseb128: I'm not in NYC but could join a hangout.15:41
slangasekseb128, bdmurray: sorry, I got pulled into another meeting, how did that phased-updates discussion go?16:29
bdmurrayslangasek: It was good althought I'd still like to discuss what to do with halted updates e.g. expiration16:30
* slangasek nods16:30
jdstrandcyphermox: I talked to xnox, thanks17:48
xnoxjuliank, is there a way to check that I am not racing with in progress apt at all?17:53
xnoxjuliank, for example, apt-get check succeeds, even when apt-get update is in-flight17:54
xnox=/17:54
kalikiana_o/18:11
xnoxjdstrand, i think with libvirt however, there is a release-regression w.r.t. .libvirt machines18:22
xnoxjdstrand, .lxd is explicitely disabled.18:23
xnoxjdstrand, also stgraber says enabling .lxd resolution on the host will break things; and may not be possible with lxd-as-a-snap-only.18:23
cyphermoxjdstrand: cool18:38
kirklandginggs: fixed!  build successful now, thanks ;-)18:38
ginggskirkland: \o/18:52
Odd_BlokeLaney: Someone just pointed me at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1530366 which refers to a packaging decision made because of having 4GB of RAM; I've just learned that we now have 8GB of RAM on the builders, so I'm wondering if the decision could be revisited?18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530366 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "1 second lag when opening URLs from the command line" [Low,Confirmed]18:54
Odd_BlokeLaney: (Apologies if my "pick a random desktop person to ping" hasn't resulted in me talking to the correct person. :p)18:54
jbichaOdd_Bloke: oSoMoN is the primary chromium-browser packager in Ubuntu now19:02
Odd_BlokeoSoMoN: o/ What are your thoughts?19:05
Odd_Blokejbicha: Thanks. :)19:05
oSoMoNOdd_Bloke, starting with chromium 61 we are now building with is_component_build=false (finally), so that issue should be fixed19:07
Odd_BlokeFaux: ^19:08
Faux:D19:25
xorpadHi20:03
xorpadWho is in charge of the windows linux subsystem, does MS manage that or is it a FOSS project?20:04
nacc!ubuwin | xorpad20:04
ubottuxorpad: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.20:04
naccxorpad: afaik, it's Microsoft20:04
xorpadOh okay20:05
xorpadI wanted to contribute to it, but MS doesn't like me20:05
xorpadwell not that they don't like me but they won't hire me20:06
xorpadthey liked me just fine for a job till I told them I never finished grade 520:06
* xorpad shrugs20:06
ScottKrbasak: You almost certainly want to sync the postfix I uploaded to Debian yesterday even though it's close to release.  Among other things, multi-instance should work now.23:17

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