karstensrage | infinity, hope everything is well, maybe we could pick up next week? | 02:16 |
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karstensrage | if you need time, i totally understand though | 02:16 |
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ginggs | kirkland: hi! calc-stats FTBFS https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calc-stats/1.4-0ubuntu1 and the README file seems to relate to a different package | 06:42 |
LocutusOfBorg | ricotz, what is the rationale for that ca-certificates-java patch? | 06:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | as said on -release some days ago, the "fix" would be to not have postinsts for circular dependencies | 06:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | and/or to merge the two packages into a single one | 06:49 |
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ricotz | LocutusOfBorg, hi, the rationale is obviously to fix its installation on armhf and therefore fixing builds of its rdepends like rustc on artful | 07:05 |
ricotz | LocutusOfBorg, I don't care about a better fix, just about it to be fixed and this did the trick here | 07:06 |
ricotz | e.g. this requires to be built, but fails due to this problem -- https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/rust-updates/+build/13512402 | 07:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | problem is that I don't get it, I think I can sponsor if you make me understand that change | 07:44 |
LocutusOfBorg | maybe just for artful, we'll see | 07:44 |
ricotz | LocutusOfBorg, the problem is due to a openjdk-8 change the installation paths on armhf are different from other archs, ca-certificates-java mimics the jvm-*.cfg to work with a half-installed openjdk | 07:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | ok but does that temp_jvm_cfg file gets removed after? | 07:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | why is armhf different? | 07:48 |
ricotz | it will be overwritten by the real one | 07:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | why did this happen only on the last nmu? | 07:48 |
ricotz | LocutusOfBorg, don't ask me, ask the openjdk maintainer | 07:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | ok, can this change make the nmu1 reverted? | 07:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | e.g. switching again to openjdk8 | 07:49 |
ricotz | this is not related to the nmu | 07:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | ack | 07:49 |
ricotz | openjdk being the cause is the reason I pinged d*oko about it | 07:51 |
ricotz | I will be back in a few hours | 07:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | I'm sponsoring it | 07:51 |
LocutusOfBorg | with some changelog changes | 07:52 |
ricotz | LocutusOfBorg, thanks | 10:38 |
LocutusOfBorg | ricotz, uploaded in debian | 10:41 |
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soc | hey | 13:48 |
soc | is there a reason why wwidgets is still compiled against Gtk2 as a backend instead of Gtk3? | 13:48 |
jbicha | soc: it's a lot of work, there was some discussion on https://bugs.debian.org/790222 | 13:55 |
ubottu | Debian bug 790222 in src:wxwidgets3.0 "wxwidgets3.0: depends on libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 which is deprecated" [Serious,Fixed] | 13:55 |
soc | jbicha: thanks, just read the messages | 14:07 |
soc | so the old webkit dep is dropped, wxwidgets can use gtk3, but they haven't ported their webkit dep yet? | 14:07 |
jbicha | webkit is not the problem, it's making sure that everything wxwidgets works fine with gtk3 | 14:10 |
soc | ah, so wxwidgets could be built with gtk3, but people aren't sure if that wouldn't introduce bugs in applications using wxwidgets? | 14:11 |
soc | jbicha: another, related question: gksu still depends on Gtk2, is there a Gtk3 replacement? | 14:13 |
soc | it looks like MATE ported gksu to gtk3 .. | 14:14 |
jbicha | apps should use PolicyKit | 14:14 |
soc | jbicha: what's the recommendation for launching apps with root privs? | 14:15 |
soc | e.g. gksu synaptic? | 14:15 |
jbicha | the recommendation is don't do it ;) | 14:15 |
soc | I beleive synaptic wont work any other way | 14:15 |
jbicha | you can try gnome-packagekit as an alternative to synaptic | 14:16 |
soc | uargh, caja-gksu depends on gksu? | 14:17 |
soc | just tried gnome-packagekit, that's sadly not what I want to use | 14:18 |
soc | jfc: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842184 | 14:28 |
ubottu | Debian bug 842184 in policykit-1-gnome "policykit-1: synaptic-pkexec no more work" [Serious,Fixed] | 14:28 |
jbicha | Ubuntu MATE 17.10 uses caja-admin instead of caja-gksu by default | 14:28 |
soc | I'm not sure caja-admin is what I want, it also pulls in a lot of dependencies | 14:30 |
soc | pkexec with those fixes mentioned in the bug report works! | 14:35 |
soc | just got rid of gksu | 14:35 |
soc | thanks! | 14:35 |
jdstrand | cyphermox: hey-- curious if you saw my comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1697730/comments/32 | 14:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1697730 in nplan (Ubuntu Artful) "Long boot time due to systemd-networkd-wait-online.service failure" [High,Triaged] | 14:59 |
cyphermox | jdstrand: there was an issue with systemd to begin with, xnox was fixing this week | 15:10 |
cyphermox | but otherwise, yes, networkd should always be running, just not doing anything if it doesn't have configuration to deal with (and it should not have any on a desktop) | 15:10 |
cyphermox | the missing NM file sounds like an upgrade bug maybe? | 15:11 |
seb128 | slangasek, bdmurray, is anyone from foundations coming in that stucked updates meeting? | 15:40 |
bdmurray | seb128: I'm not in NYC but could join a hangout. | 15:41 |
slangasek | seb128, bdmurray: sorry, I got pulled into another meeting, how did that phased-updates discussion go? | 16:29 |
bdmurray | slangasek: It was good althought I'd still like to discuss what to do with halted updates e.g. expiration | 16:30 |
* slangasek nods | 16:30 | |
jdstrand | cyphermox: I talked to xnox, thanks | 17:48 |
xnox | juliank, is there a way to check that I am not racing with in progress apt at all? | 17:53 |
xnox | juliank, for example, apt-get check succeeds, even when apt-get update is in-flight | 17:54 |
xnox | =/ | 17:54 |
kalikiana_ | o/ | 18:11 |
xnox | jdstrand, i think with libvirt however, there is a release-regression w.r.t. .libvirt machines | 18:22 |
xnox | jdstrand, .lxd is explicitely disabled. | 18:23 |
xnox | jdstrand, also stgraber says enabling .lxd resolution on the host will break things; and may not be possible with lxd-as-a-snap-only. | 18:23 |
cyphermox | jdstrand: cool | 18:38 |
kirkland | ginggs: fixed! build successful now, thanks ;-) | 18:38 |
ginggs | kirkland: \o/ | 18:52 |
Odd_Bloke | Laney: Someone just pointed me at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1530366 which refers to a packaging decision made because of having 4GB of RAM; I've just learned that we now have 8GB of RAM on the builders, so I'm wondering if the decision could be revisited? | 18:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1530366 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "1 second lag when opening URLs from the command line" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:54 |
Odd_Bloke | Laney: (Apologies if my "pick a random desktop person to ping" hasn't resulted in me talking to the correct person. :p) | 18:54 |
jbicha | Odd_Bloke: oSoMoN is the primary chromium-browser packager in Ubuntu now | 19:02 |
Odd_Bloke | oSoMoN: o/ What are your thoughts? | 19:05 |
Odd_Bloke | jbicha: Thanks. :) | 19:05 |
oSoMoN | Odd_Bloke, starting with chromium 61 we are now building with is_component_build=false (finally), so that issue should be fixed | 19:07 |
Odd_Bloke | Faux: ^ | 19:08 |
Faux | :D | 19:25 |
xorpad | Hi | 20:03 |
xorpad | Who is in charge of the windows linux subsystem, does MS manage that or is it a FOSS project? | 20:04 |
nacc | !ubuwin | xorpad | 20:04 |
ubottu | xorpad: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows. | 20:04 |
nacc | xorpad: afaik, it's Microsoft | 20:04 |
xorpad | Oh okay | 20:05 |
xorpad | I wanted to contribute to it, but MS doesn't like me | 20:05 |
xorpad | well not that they don't like me but they won't hire me | 20:06 |
xorpad | they liked me just fine for a job till I told them I never finished grade 5 | 20:06 |
* xorpad shrugs | 20:06 | |
ScottK | rbasak: You almost certainly want to sync the postfix I uploaded to Debian yesterday even though it's close to release. Among other things, multi-instance should work now. | 23:17 |
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