[07:09] <diplo> Morning all
[09:54] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:37] <diplo> diddledan: have you created a snap that needs a web server yet ?
[11:07] <tomred> "Can't locate object method "countries_for_form" via package
[11:07] <tomred> Sorry wrong channel
[11:09] <Seeker`> have you tried down the back of the sofa?
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> i'm surprised more databases don't fall back to searching there
[11:23] <zmoylan-pi> now i want you to sit down and breath deeply before clicking the link... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/29/commodore-64-coming-back-c64-mini-released-next-year/
[13:51] <diddledan> erhmagherd
[13:51] <diddledan> c64?!
[13:52] <ali1234> meh
[13:52] <ali1234> someone made a FPGA board in pi zero form factor that can emulate an amiga in hardware
[13:53] <ali1234> https://hackaday.io/project/13048-flea-ohm-fpga-project
[13:54] <ali1234> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fleafpga-ohm-fpga-experimenter-board-arduino#/
[14:10] <diddledan> I wonder how "turned-off" the military bits are.. as in could they be turned back on by a hacker? https://hackaday.com/2017/09/28/military-satellite-goes-civilian/
[14:12] <zmoylan-pi> might have been so secret we can initiate self destruct in case we ever saw a russian shuttle pull up along side in case type destroy important parts thing
[14:16] <diddledan> criminals totally need to look into ham radio
[14:17] <diddledan> what better way to middle-finger the establishment than to use unlicensed bands to communicate out of the prying eye of internet censorship/spying
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> everyone monitors those frequencies
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> plus very very low bandwidth
[14:20] <diddledan> do you need much bandwidth for a go order on robbing the granny on the corner of the street?
[14:22] <diddledan> that must be due to doppler - they list the frequency of the downlink on that sattelite as start-of-pass at 435.115MHz drifting to end-of-pass at 435.095MHz
[14:22] <diddledan> the uplink must have compensation inbuilt because it is static
[16:55] <diddledan> the internet isn't going to break https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/28/internet_update_on_hold/
[17:26] <diddledan> sweet ooga mooga
[17:26] <diddledan> I've cleared my overdraft!!
[18:16] <diddledan> uk school lost their balloon and you'll never guess where it ended up! https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/913763213195579392
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[18:39] <Guest14552> #sdf3dfgd454
[18:51] <diddledan> omg, I was thinking exactly the same thing
[20:20] <daftykins> diddledan: \o
[20:20] <diddledan> o/
[20:20] <daftykins> well, good thing i read that Draytek's firmware update manual, it had one image which nukes your config and one that doesn't XD
[20:20] <diddledan> run them both :-p
[20:20] <daftykins> i also firmware updated an Oki MFP o0
[20:21] <daftykins> i think i might just enjoy progress bars or something
[21:31] <diddledan> puerto rico is an island. surrounded by water. https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/913837786280558592
[21:34] <daftykins> hrmm
[21:40] <aptanet> Anyone here running the 17.10 beta?
[21:43] <daftykins> what if they were?
[21:43] <daftykins> (usually best to just ask the question :) )
[21:44] <aptanet> good point, I'm clearly getting rusty with my irc etiquette!
[21:45] <aptanet> I've just upgraded a box to play with and logged into the standard Ubuntu version of Gnome desktop and there are no indicators.
[21:45] <aptanet> I'm sure they should be there, but I don't even have the Gnome legacy thing at the bottom left.
[21:46] <aptanet> Just wondering how they were setup so I could fix it - rather than just sorting it out myself and ending up with a completely non-standard solution.
[22:46] <daftykins> oops i forgot i read your query, i have no idea about desktop matters but i would probably take the simple approach of nuking my ~ gnome config to resolve any such surprises
[22:49] <aptanet> Good point, I did try Gnome on 17.04; although I did surgically remove all packages and purge the configurations it may well have left stuff in my home directory.
[22:50] <aptanet> Just need to work out what to nuke now.
[22:51] <daftykins> mmm i'd only be googling, but maybe .config/<something in here>
[22:53] <aptanet> found some . directories that may be related, nothing recent in them so I'll move them out the way (never delete, just in case - I've seen that mistake far too often) and see what happens.
[22:54] <daftykins> *nod*
[23:10] <aptanet> Well those made no difference. Nothing else looks likely so far.
[23:10] <aptanet> Time to sleep on it.
[23:11] <aptanet> Added quirks with Dash to Dock having ghost icons and the shutdown/sleep buttons not doing anything.
[23:11] <aptanet> Also managed to get Dash to Dock appearing in the lock screen somehow!
[23:11] <daftykins> ooh-err
[23:11] <daftykins> can you create another user to test?
[23:12] <daftykins> i'd start wondering about graphics hardware + driver in use in a way, assuming that's gnome3 - but i'm really rusty on desktop issues (used to give support but i stick to servers day to day)