| eblu | alright uh | 02:42 |
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| eblu | so i installed kubuntu-desktop | 02:42 |
| eblu | which is nice and all but i don't want to mess with kde at the moment | 02:42 |
| eblu | so i want to switch back to gnome | 02:42 |
| eblu | problem is the gear in gdm3 has just up and vanished | 02:43 |
| eblu | like it's gone | 02:43 |
| eblu | changing dms doesn't work either | 02:43 |
| eblu | so question is how do i get that DE selector back and get back to gnome sweet gnome | 02:44 |
| eblu_ | whuh oh | 02:48 |
| eblu_ | ubuntu thinks it's kubuntu now | 02:48 |
| valorie | perhaps reinstall gnome-desktop? | 02:48 |
| valorie | or ubuntu-desktop | 02:49 |
| valorie | whatever they are calling it now | 02:49 |
| eblu__ | ok, after restarting and logging out gdm3 got its gear restored | 02:51 |
| eblu__ | but it replaced the default gnome desktop with kde? | 02:51 |
| valorie | sudo apt remove plasma* maybe? | 02:56 |
| valorie | the desktop the KDE produces is Plasma | 02:56 |
| bazhang | lundmar, what video players have you tried so far | 10:58 |
| lundmar | vlc | 10:58 |
| lundmar | mpv works better because its running native wayland | 10:58 |
| bazhang | lundmar, thats odd, smplayer is working flawlessly in 17.10 for me | 10:59 |
| bazhang | smpplayer with the mpv backend | 10:59 |
| lundmar | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032 | 11:02 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 745032 in wayland "Mouse Tracking 'Laggy' on Wayland, and mouse movements cause frame drops in other OpenGL applications" [Normal,New] | 11:02 |
| lundmar | unfortunately, it's everything that is affected. Even if I start eg. firefox you will see the mouse jump stall | 11:02 |
| bazhang | lundmar, whats the ram with that | 11:03 |
| lundmar | it's just a really nasty design flaw / bug that makes gnome/wayland a tough experience, especially on slower systems | 11:03 |
| lundmar | bazhang: you mean my machine specs ? | 11:04 |
| bazhang | yep | 11:04 |
| lundmar | it's an i7 4 core with 8 GB ram | 11:05 |
| bazhang | odder still | 11:05 |
| bazhang | I have a twlece year old thinkpad with 2gb | 11:05 |
| lundmar | it's a laptop i7 though so the base clock is generally lower but still a beefy machine compared | 11:06 |
| bazhang | runs the smplayer/mpv just fine | 11:06 |
| bazhang | twelve | 11:06 |
| lundmar | yes, mpv works fine. I think it is because it uses a different rendering path | 11:07 |
| lundmar | maybe my vlc is not using hardware rendering which puts gnome/mutter to work instead | 11:07 |
| lundmar | but while the gnome/mutter rendering loop is loaded the mouse/input keyboard input stalls | 11:08 |
| lundmar | it's pretty terrible | 11:09 |
| lundmar | in the bug report they talk about moving the libinput input handling to a separate thread but I don't expect we will see that solution anytime soon. | 11:09 |
| bazhang | lundmar, just out of curiousity, have you done any dvd ripping | 11:09 |
| bazhang | ogmrip in particular | 11:10 |
| lundmar | I haven't used a dvd in 10 years or so.. | 11:10 |
| bazhang | ok | 11:10 |
| bazhang | that particular ripper uses vlc | 11:10 |
| lundmar | I've disconnected myself from all types mechanical devices ;) | 11:10 |
| bazhang | righto, just curious | 11:11 |
| lundmar | I expect the devs will put some focus on this issue for the next release | 11:11 |
| lundmar | because it affects everything you do on the desktop | 11:12 |
| bazhang | I just noticed a bit of lag doing that, and it does use vlc | 11:13 |
| lundmar | in my case, if you go fullscreen vlc and move the mouse to display the bottom player menu bar it stall the video. | 11:15 |
| bazhang | thanks for the chat lundmar | 11:15 |
| bazhang | hope to catch up a bit later | 11:15 |
| lundmar | you too | 11:15 |
| lundmar | have anyone noticed that in Ubuntu 17.10 there are two gdm login sessions running? | 12:06 |
| lundmar | is this intentional? | 12:07 |
| lundmar | seems like a waste of resources to me. | 12:08 |
| tux_ | Team Fortress 2 is crashing on Steam in 17.10, anyone else come across this? | 12:35 |
| tux_ | using Dell inspiron with intel mesa drivers (official 17.2.1) | 12:36 |
| LogicalDash | I've got an FC30 Pro gamepad. Ubuntu 17.10 doesn't recognize it, though it does show up in lsusb. I think that means I have to add a udev rule, but what kind exactly? | 14:47 |
| LogicalDash | Never mind that last, I got it to work...but now the controller appears in jstest-gtk to have 8 axes when it really only has 6. That seems like maybe a driver issue? | 14:59 |
| LogicalDash | Well, I've upgraded the 8bitdo FC30 Pro to the latest firmware, 4.01, and now Ubuntu doesn't recognize it even with the custom udev rules that worked with 4.00. | 15:54 |
| LogicalDash | I think this is a driver issue, where do I go to report driver issues? | 16:52 |
| Faux | Is it a USB HID device? If so, there is no real "driver" as such. | 16:58 |
| LogicalDash | It's a joystick, idk | 17:05 |
| LogicalDash | I filed bugs against xserver-xorg-input-joystick | 17:06 |
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