[00:04] <d_ven0m> That IS odd
[00:05] <d_ven0m> I actually had a similar issue with the gnutls-dev libcurl
[00:05] <d_ven0m> I have libcurl3, but there is no libcurl3-gnutls-dev, I had to install libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[00:07] <d_ven0m> Turns out that solved my problem, and looking into it, apparently libcurl3 and libcurl4 don't change symbols so it doesn't affect compiling (at least to my knowledge). But I was always under the assumption that the number after the package name referred to a specific version of the package...
[00:08] <maxb> If you look at the packages built from gnutls28 source, there are libgnutlsxx28 and libgnutls30
[00:08] <maxb> So my guess would be that there was a change bumping only one of the libraries (twice), and leaving the -dev package name alone was least disruptive
[00:18] <d_ven0m> aaah I guess that makes sense
[00:19] <d_ven0m> Where did you find that btw?
[00:20] <maxb> 'apt showsrc gnutls28' and some conjecture based on past experience
[00:27] <d_ven0m> Hm, I get an error about putting source URIs in my sources.list, but shouldn't it be populated with the default repo URI?
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[01:38] <dobey> d_ven0m: no, source repos are disabled by default to speed up updates for people, as most people don't need them
[01:38] <dobey> that change was made a couple years ago, iirc; they used to be enabled by default
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[12:32] <lotuspsychje> hey guys, im experiencing this bug in latest 17.10 up to date: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032
[12:32] <ubottu> Gnome bug 745032 in wayland "Mouse Tracking 'Laggy' on Wayland, and mouse movements cause frame drops in other OpenGL applications" [Normal,New]
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> not sure if its related to each other, but got this bug running for ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1718653
[12:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1718653 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Windows buttons gone on specific programs" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:57] <jbicha> lotuspsychje: where did you get your theme from?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: standard theme ambiance
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: tryed other default themes aswell, no dice
[12:58] <jbicha> oh ok, you said "ambient" in the bug comments
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> oh lemme change that my bad
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: gnome runned smooth for long time(on daily), as for few latest updates it went sluggish
[13:04] <jbicha> lotuspsychje: please add more info about your graphics card and drivers to the 1718653 bug
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: ok will do
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: done
[13:10] <jbicha> lotuspsychje: could you try booting a 4.12 Linux kernel?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: yeah ill do it a bit later and add to the bug ok?
[13:10] <jbicha> sure
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> tnx
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[14:15] <soc> hey, does someone know where the lighdm maintainers hang around?
[14:23] <rbasak> ScottK: thank you for letting us know. I'm off for a couple of days but have made a note.
[15:33] <doko> ppisati_: yes. please send patches
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[16:42] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: booted Linux ArtfullBOX 4.12.0-11-generic but same moue & animations lag
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> *mouse
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> jbicha: would you like me to add that to the bug?
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