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vltIhrFussel: I don’t know what a mirroring interval is. Can you explain?00:01
IhrFusselvlt, I found it: I was talking about the RAID check/resync interval and it can be found in /etc/cron.d/mdadm00:02
vltIhrFussel: Thank you.00:03
IhrFusselOf course the cron file only exists if the machine uses RAID arrays00:04
slimjimflimthis is a friendly reminder that many of your ips are visible. https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks is how to get a cloak00:17
coldasfuccbut muh accountability00:31
IhrFusselThe IP doesn't tell much IMO...you won't get any personal info with that00:31
slimjimflimIhrFussel: paranoia exists in layers00:32
slimjimflimit's like an onion00:32
IhrFusselParanoid people exist everywhere, true that :P bye guys00:34
BajornHeyo! I'm back00:53
Bajornstill with that shutdown problem00:53
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Bajornusing acpi=off in /etc/defaults/grub makes the shutdown get stuck00:54
oaulakhqall of sudden my bluetooth stop working and i duuno why! anyone help00:58
slimjimflimoaulakh: what was the error message?01:01
oaulakhit's just not working at all after a restart, means it was working great before, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25650259/01:07
oaulakhslimjimflim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25650259/01:07
slimjimflimoaulakh: can't help you. good to have that paste in chat tho01:10
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Damnit__anyone here?01:19
ObviousTrollgenitals01:20
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ObviousTrollnigggggerrrrrs01:24
Damnit__is this a joke01:30
ObviousTrollDamnit__: is what a joke?01:31
blkadderIt's a cry for attention.01:31
ObviousTrollubuntu is a joke01:31
ObviousTrollall hail debian01:31
buggaboosanchezhi01:33
zautomatahow to make wkhtmltopdf keep href links in the generated pdf?02:02
dedondestais there an app that used instead of postfix to send email, but instead of sending them they be saved to filesystem?02:15
BajornNo idea man, I'm just here after 8 years of not using linux :^)02:19
dedondestaBajorn: welcome back02:31
Bajornthanks bud02:32
BajornI came back because I need my laptop to be swift as wind while I work in 20 tabs in firefox and so on :^)02:32
oerhekslolz02:33
BajornI'm getting a weird Issue with ACPI for all I've been reading02:33
Bajornwhen I turn off my laptop, it restarts02:33
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AlsophilaEriC^^:I installed the new version of Ubuntu Studio and finally my 3G module works.02:40
AlsophilaI think maybe there was something wrong with key-rings...02:41
AlsophilaIt was when I installed fingerprint that my 3G module stopped working...02:42
roothorickIs Launchpad down or something go wonky on my network?02:57
Bashing-omroothorick: Nope, not resolving for me either .03:02
oerheksno message here https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus?lang=en03:03
TuxFukhello i'm trying to download a win98.tar from this post and I need to make an account. The issue is that the server keeps timing out while i'm trying to make my account. any ideas?03:16
TuxFukhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81789703:17
vutralsomeone knows a really fancy terminal emulator?03:17
vutral^^03:17
TuxFuki use urxvt03:19
Bashing-omTuxFuk: Seems launchpad is having problems at this time .03:19
TuxFukBashing-om: darn. thanks for the confirmation03:21
KombuchaKipHey everyone. Could someone please help me with an encrypted drive issue? Output and question details here. https://pastebin.com/kjgFsJbq03:43
oaulakhi am facing problem with bluetooth, after i restart my pc its not working than in purge all bleutooth packages and now when i try to install bluez-utils, it just say package not exist, i did update but still can't find my bluetooth in settings03:56
oaulakhmy ubutnu setting not opening too04:00
Bashing-omTuxFuk: LP back up .04:01
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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:37
captain_morganusing 17.04 I have a couple applications where some keys don't work in text fields. tab, backspace, arrows. KiCAD is the most notable but I've seen it in others04:45
lotuspsychjecaptain_morgan: tryed to unplug keyboard/plug back in already?04:46
captain_morganlaptop04:46
lotuspsychjekk04:46
lotuspsychjecaptain_morgan: can you test the guest account please, if that would work?04:47
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captain_morganlotuspsychje, yeah, happens in a fresh account04:52
KombuchaKipCan anyone please help with an encrypted drive issue?04:57
SwedeMike!ask | KombuchaKip04:59
ubottuKombuchaKip: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:59
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: https://pastebin.com/kjgFsJbq04:59
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237295505:00
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: not that I am an expert in this kind of raid, but /dev/mapper/isw_dhcjejadcf_HOME_RAID1_PAIR looks like it should be the raid1 device assembled from sdc and sdd05:05
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yes, that's correct.05:06
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: so "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/mapper/isw_dhcjejadcf_HOME_RAID1_PAIR crypthome" should allow you to decrypt it, and re result will be /dev/mapper/crypthome05:06
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: But it is assembled already.05:06
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Device /dev/mapper/isw_dhcjejadcf_HOME_RAID1_PAIR is not a valid LUKS device.05:07
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: pastebin "lsbkl"05:07
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: That's also for the entire drive / raid1 array of sd{c,d}05:07
SwedeMike"lsblk"05:07
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: yes? isn't that what you want?05:07
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237295505:08
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yes, I want to be able to decrypt that entire RAID1 array so I can access the partitions inside of it.05:08
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: But you see from the lsblk output that sd{a,b} show more than c,d05:09
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: The system basically appears to have no knowledge of what's inside of the second RAID1 array, only that it is one.05:09
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: right. but it's also that the raid1 size it sees is only 746G instead of the entire 2.7T05:11
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yeah, I always had that problem before even when I could access the partitions inside where the system only saw the first 746 G instead of the 2.7TB. Different issue I presume.05:11
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: do you have more detail on how that was encrypted? Because there seems to be no luks superblock05:11
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Is there any way to probe the disk to see?05:12
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: well, I guess you could do "hexdump -C /dev/sdc" to see if there is anything there that looks like anything interesting.05:12
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Let's give that a try.05:13
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: What happened was /dev/sdc was dying so I replaced it. The RAID1 seemed to sync, but then the UUID changed for some reason and boot was broken because my /home is mounted on the latter RAID1.05:13
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yeah, first sixteen bytes all zeros.05:14
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: how was it encrypted? do you have an /etc/crypttab that contains any references to encrypted volumes?05:15
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yes, but only to swap05:16
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: cryptswap1 UUID=65dfa2a5-5169-4c12-8eee-518449c2d9e4 /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain6405:16
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: partprobe showed... /dev/mapper/isw_dhcjejadcf_HOME_RAID1_PAIR: msdos partitions05:18
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: that's weird because lsblk doesn't show any partitions.05:20
SwedeMikebut the raid on sdc and sdd was set up the same way as in sda/sdb, in bios? because this is that kind of raid, right?05:21
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yeah, it's Intel software raid1.05:21
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Performed through bios.05:21
lotuspsychjecaptain_morgan: ubuntu up to date to latest?05:23
captain_morganyup05:24
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: ok, I don't know how to proceed. It seems sdc and sdd contains a isw superblock that seems to make sense, but nothing else. How was the encryption set up? It's weird that there is nothing in crypttab, that's typically where luks is configured05:24
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: What surprises me is that it was working so long without anything in crypttab. But what I had was an entry in /etc/fstab to put the mount point for home from the second RAID1.05:25
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: I don't recall what I used to encrypt, but I believe it was whatever the suggested Ubuntu method was, such as dm-crypt05:26
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SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: what's the corresponding fstab line for /home ?05:29
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2372955&p=13692457#post1369245705:29
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: I just added the output there for the old /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab05:29
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Come to think of it, I have access to /dev/sd{a,b} which is the system partition which has the boot logs in /var/log which may give you what you need.05:31
lotuspsychjecaptain_morgan: how about removing keyboard layoyt, and re-add?05:31
captain_morganwhat sort of package would I be looking for? Cannot think of anything like that off hand05:33
lotuspsychjecaptain_morgan: the language settings/keyboard can do that for you05:33
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: can you please add output from "blkid" ?05:35
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2372955&p=13692457#post1369245705:36
captain_morganhuzzah! runnign Input Method (which render very garbled) and setting user configuration fixed it05:36
captain_morganthis has been getting terribly in the way, having to use the mouse way more than usual05:37
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: I'm out of ideas. It seems sdc and sdd doesn't contain anything reasonable, so it sounds like something went wrong either before or during your drive replacement.05:37
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: are you sure /home was really encrypted?05:38
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Wait, I think I have something I found in /var/log/installer about how the partitions were setup.05:38
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: /var/log/installer/partman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25651444/05:41
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SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: that seems to indicarte that /home was not encrypted?05:44
SwedeMikeindicate05:44
SwedeMike"parted_server: OUT: 11048576-801567145983801566097408primaryext4/dev/mapper/isw_eabehgedbj_HOME_RAID1_PAIR1Home"05:45
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Maybe I encrypted it later, but even if that was the case, I should at least still see a partition there.05:45
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: if you look on line 19497 http://paste.ubuntu.com/25651444/ then you have first and last block of the partition there05:45
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: so you could try to recreate that partition table05:46
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: I think what I'm going to do at this point is exercise the nuclear option, remove all the drives, except one, re-install everything on a single drive with no funny raid, lvm, dm-crypt, and just an encrypted home directory and that's it. I at least have everything backed up.05:47
lotuspsychje!yay | captain_morgan05:47
ubottucaptain_morgan: Glad you made it! :-)05:47
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: you could try to find the ext4 superblock by using the method in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33284/recovering-ext4-superblocks using losetup05:48
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: but yes, if you have backup that might be the easiest way to just restore from backup05:48
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Thanks anyways for your help, Mike.05:49
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: good lyck!05:50
SwedeMikeluck05:50
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Oh fuck05:50
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: I think I know what happened. When I added the new drive, they sync'd, but from the new one over the old one, e.g. all zerod.05:51
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Stupid fucking intel fake raid. When you first boot it should have asked when it sees the array was degraded and you put a new drive in there.05:51
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: yes, that's a plausible theory.05:52
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Yeah, testdisk is finding nothing in the array. No boot sector, partitions, or anything. A hex dump shows all zeros for the first 10MB I looked at.05:52
lotuspsychjeKombuchaKip: plz keep it polite in this channel05:52
SwedeMikeKombuchaKip: ok, then I think you're right, that's what happened.05:52
KombuchaKipSwedeMike: Thanks buddy. Ok, time for nuclear option. Thanks for your help.05:53
logan0405Anyone know why apt-get hangs on [0% Working] for some time? I fixed it before but now I forget how. It eventually loads but takes ~5-10 sec. Doesn't happen on linux mint05:53
lotuspsychjelogan0405: ubuntu version?05:53
logan0405how do i get version05:54
logan040517.0405:54
logan0405any way to see what it's hanging on? can't find anything to increase verbosity of apt-get05:56
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captain_morganoh... it's not actually working...06:09
captain_morganbut I can get it to06:09
captain_morganfor example, if tab doesn't work, then I hit alt (bringing up that "Type your command" bar) the focus in the previous dialog moves as if I'd hit tab06:11
captain_morganthen it continues to work until it just randomly stops06:11
lotuspsychjelogan0405: did you try apt update yet?06:21
logan0405yeah06:21
lotuspsychjewhat kind of error you get on it?06:22
lotuspsychjelogan0405: perhaps its your country erpo not functioning well today?06:22
lotuspsychjerepo06:22
lotuspsychjelogan0405: you can check known errors on repos in #ubuntu-mirrors06:24
Emmanuel_ChanelHello! Someone can help me for set-up of a WLAN router on Ubuntu 16.04?06:31
Emmanuel_ChanelI have a USB3 WLAN adaptor. The PC recognize it but it doesn't work.06:32
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logan0405i was able to fix the problem by editing resolv.conf06:49
logan0405was nameserver 127.0.0.1 changed to nameserver 8.8.8.806:49
ikoniawrong answer06:49
ikoniaas that will get overwritten06:50
logan0405good to know06:50
logan0405wonder why 127.0.0.1 was causing apt to hang?06:50
ikoniabecause it's pointing at a local dns server that either a.) wasn't running b.) didn't have anywhere to forward to06:50
ikoniaso it was hanging while it was waiting for the DNS time out06:50
logan0405is it weird for it to point to 127.0.0.1 ? it's just a default ubuntu install06:51
ikoniathat is the correct default config06:51
logan0405so it runs a dns server on my local machine by default?06:52
ikoniait runs dnsmasq06:52
logan0405so there must have been a problem there then right06:52
logan0405ikonia, any further advice to troubleshoot? i can just edit it every reboot to 8.8.8.8 if worst comes to worse06:54
ikonialogan0405: look at the dnsmasq config and see what it's forwarding06:54
ikonialogan0405: I assume this is a standard ubuntu desktop install with the network being controlled/configured with network manager ?06:54
logan0405yeah. dnsmasq.conf is just all commented out06:55
ikonialogan0405: thats not the config06:56
ikonia(thats part of it)06:56
logan0405where can i find the config?06:56
ikoniadont rush in - look at how ubuntu uses dnsmasq and how it's controlled via network manager06:56
ikoniabefore looking at config files and potentially making changes06:56
logan0405any simple way you can tell me so 8.8.8.8 will stick? i have something i have to do for the next few days06:57
ikonialogan0405: there is a page on the wiki that shows how libresolv works on ubuntu and how it's tied into network manager06:59
logan0405found a simple way.07:01
logan0405just add 8.8.8.8 in additional DNS servers in edit connections07:01
ikoniaexcellent07:03
logan0405appears to be working with that, but will look more into networkmanager dns wiki pages and all that if i have to07:03
logan0405thanks.07:03
logan0405would have just left it in resolv.conf if you didn't tell me hahha07:03
ikonianice work07:04
turbonigggeri like cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese07:23
jattgeeez, 🙉07:39
FManTropyxI am a little afraid of rsync08:14
lesshasteI have a pdf with a transparent background. How can I make the background opaque?08:26
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cristian_clesshaste: have ypu tried by xournal?10:09
lesshastecristian_c, no! Tell me more please10:09
slyrobotI am on Ubuntu 17.04 zesty. And I have run into sum serious trouble with my pacakge manager.10:11
slyrobot*some10:11
slyrobotI can't seem to install anything using apt-get. Please help.10:12
cristian_clesshaste: do you want just displaying opaque background?10:13
cristian_cor just saving it into pdf?10:13
cristian_c*or even10:13
lesshastecristian_c, I want to equivalent of convert -flatten pic.pdf pic.pdf10:13
lesshastethe equivalent10:13
Tin_manslyrobot, what have you tried to do so far?10:14
slyrobotTin_man: I have tried xrdp, filezilla.10:15
cristian_clesshaste: have you <lready tried a pdf editor?10:15
lesshasteinkscape couldn't cope10:15
cristian_c?10:15
lesshasteit doesn't read in the pdf properlty10:15
cristian_clesshaste: have you <already tried a pdf editor?10:16
Tin_mansly try these commands one at a time:  sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get -f install10:16
Tin_manslyrobot,10:16
slyrobotTin_man: Gotcha. trying.10:16
lesshastecristian_c, what pdf editor is there except inkscape?10:17
cristian_clesshaste: inkscape is not a pdf editor10:17
lesshasteok so .. what pdf editor is there?10:17
cristian_cinkscape is a vector graphics editor10:18
slyrobotTin_man: No luck.10:18
lesshastecristian_c, it can also edit pdf files10:18
cristian_c!search pdf10:18
ubottuFound: cupspdf, pdf, documentation, acrobat10:18
lesshastebut not that well10:18
lesshastecristian_c, acrobat pdf editor is not free in any sense10:18
cristian_c!info pdftk10:19
ubottupdftk (source: pdftk): tool for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02-4build1 (zesty), package size 679 kB, installed size 2869 kB10:19
slyrobotTin_man: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25652646/ This is what was generated/10:19
lesshastecristian_c,  https://www.pdflabs.com/docs/pdftk-man-page/#dest-output-flatten ? that might work10:20
Tin_mandid it finish, or is it still spitting out info?10:21
slyrobotIt finished with lot of errors.10:21
slyrobotTin_man: I also tried installing those packages and they din10:22
slyrobot*din't install.10:22
Tin_manwhat error do you get when trying to use apt-get?10:23
slyrobothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25652646/10:23
slyrobotTin_man: ^10:23
Tin_mank10:23
Tin_manslyrobot, is this a new install or have you had it for awhile?10:24
slyrobotA new install. However I added google-chrome to the sources.list10:25
slyrobothttps://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ Tin_man I used this.10:25
Tin_manmight try a few more web findings, but if it keeps failing, might be better off just doing a complete reinstall, and start fresh.10:27
slyrobotTin_man: Thanks.10:27
slyrobotTin_man: Is there a way in which i can completely reset my ap10:28
slyrobot*apt.10:28
Tin_manlooking now..10:28
slyrobotTin_man: Much appreciated.10:29
cristian_clesshaste: uncompress ypur pdf by pdftk. Then, make ypur changes and finally compress it again10:30
cristian_c*ypur10:30
Tin_manslyrobot, try this link, and see if it helps >>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories10:33
slyrobotTin_man: Conincidently I was looking at the same thread. Thanks M8.10:34
Tin_mansounds like your on the right track.. good luck..10:35
Tin_manmight run into a little translation problem if your using Kubuntu. can't remember what the10:40
Tin_mandifference is with the software sources looks like10:40
Tin_manin*10:40
Tin_mancan't type, to early.10:41
zautomatais there a way to wkhtmlpdf to export external html links into pdfs?12:01
BluesKajHey folks12:14
FManTropyxI am a little afraid to updgaer12:21
FManTropyxUbuntu wants to upgrade 145 packages and install 4 new ones12:22
lotuspsychjeFManTropyx: why affraid, upgrading is a good thing12:26
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FManTropyxwhat if things break?12:27
lotuspsychjeFManTropyx: what if you dont update & break things?12:27
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hazrpg[laptop]hey all12:37
hazrpg[laptop]just wondering, but has anyone recently got a 128GB (SSD) + 1TB (HDD) laptop? And if you have, what kind of configuration have you guys done for dual-booting? I'm currently doing a ddrescue of the 128GB because it has all the factory settings on it. But I want to clean install Win10 and Ubuntu.12:38
histohazrpg[laptop]: put /boot and / on your 128gb and /home on your 1tb12:43
histohazrpg[laptop]: or easiier yet / on 128gb and /home on the 1tb12:44
histohazrpg[laptop]: I however operate on a 64gb ssd with no issues, so probably not the best to ask.12:44
hazrpg[laptop]histo: That was my idea / and possibly /boot on the 128gb ssd, and /home on the 1tb. But its been soooooo long since I've used windows for anything that I don't know what to set up for that - can it even run in a small space?12:46
hazrpg[laptop]histo: I was also going to do /opt onto the 1tb too (but not as a partition, I tend to just mount it into /home/opt)12:47
frostschutzhazrpg[laptop], depends what you want to use SSD performance for. linux? windows? both? and how much space you really need... I use / and /home on SSD and HDD just for media files.12:48
skinuxHow do I mount Windows 10 partition? It's not showing in file browser12:51
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: ubuntu is always my go-to OS, I do all my work there (web dev). So I was thinking of treating the SSD as the boot place and the HDD as storage. I'd only ever go into Windows for games (if I ever get a moment to do so!)12:51
lotuspsychje!mount | skinux12:52
ubottuskinux: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount12:52
skinuxNevermind. I found it, it's just not called Windows12:54
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hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: I know this sort of thing is usually a personal choice, and in the past I've always done (because I only had 1TB) was 100GB for /, 800GB for /home and the rest for windows. But over time I noticed I'm not actually using the full 100GB12:55
hazrpg[laptop]for / I mean12:55
frostschutzhazrpg[laptop], put everything you want to be fast on SSD, that usually includes your /home. Put the clunky stuff on HDD (movies etc. do not benefit at all from SSD)12:57
frostschutzif you use LVM you can change sizes any time12:57
frostschutzwindows is fine on hdd if you rarely ever use it12:58
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: so essentially 50/50 split the SSD might be the best way? And then say symlink /home/me/projects on the hdd (since all my git repos are on there, and currently take up 500GB)12:59
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: Could you walk me through LVM, even just a general overview - that's something I've never touched but keep meaning to look into13:00
frostschutz500GB in git is quite a lot... :-) no choice then13:00
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: heh, its not all 1 repo! I've got roughtly 40 clients - the images are the main killer13:01
frostschutzhazrpg[laptop], not sure how to walk you through that... basically it allows resizing partitions without moving data. there should be several linux wiki explaining it.13:01
hazrpg[laptop](again not in the repos, images are usually just in the client folder)13:01
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: fair enough, I'll do a bit of research. :) Do you know if LVM supports NTFS filesystems, or purely just ext2/3/4?13:03
frostschutzhazrpg[laptop], LVM doesn't care about the filesystem, but Windows doesn't support LVM so ...13:03
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: ah, so if I was to add in some NTFS filesystems with LVM on the HDD, it won't see it then...?13:04
frostschutzwindows won't like it, yea13:04
hazrpg[laptop]frostschutz: shame... I noticed that it had storage spaces when I was digging around the settings to see what was new, was kinda hoping it was LVM13:06
hazrpg[laptop]I think its a bummer that windows and linux still haven't gotten along and finally ditched the NTFS filesystem13:08
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ewookhazrpg[laptop]: How did you make that connection?13:11
hazrpg[laptop]ewook: heh, the concepts sounded similar - honestly, haven't touched windows in so long13:16
ewookhazrpg[laptop]: Like all things legacy, it's hard to just ditch something. MS has tried, and failed and ditched plans for "winFS" (as far as I know). *nix in general tolerates ntfs - to some extent. But have you seriously seen a dist or deviation based with full compatibilty with ntfs?13:18
ewookas in "here, use ntfs it rocks".13:19
akikntfs works fine in ubuntu or am i missing something?13:25
frostschutzakik, fine as in, it mounts, and hopefully doesn't corrupt, and performance doesn't matter too much. it's something13:26
frostschutzworks a lot better than mtp anyhow13:26
frostschutzbut that doesn't work in windows either13:26
akiki've run a vm on a ntfs mounted usb disk and it was fine13:27
akiki think ntfs-3g doesn't even warn you when mounting a ntfs partition read/write13:28
cristian_chello13:28
cristian_cI've ite 9135 dvb chip (with remote control), it uses dvb-afatech9035 driver, and i've typed sudo ir-keytable13:28
cristian_cir-keytable and evtest perform successfully keypresses on the remote control. Unfortunately, enabled protocol field is empty and if I try to configure shortcuts in kaffeine, many keys don't work13:29
cristian_cI've tried to modprobe some nec modules, because the remote control support the nec protocol, but I don't know how to solve the issue13:29
cristian_cany ideas?13:29
billygoatIs there a way to only use the touchpad for gestures? I currently don't use the touchpad at all so its disabled, but I would like to be able to do a one finger swipe to swap workspaces, but I can't seem to find in synaptics where I can swap 1 finger POINTER_MOTION to 1 finger GESTURE. Any push in the right direction?13:56
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Bendrhello14:21
Bendrwhere can i find my C program core dumps? i can't find them in the current directory14:21
doug16khttps://stackoverflow.com/a/18368068/112797214:24
swift110hey all14:39
hfpHi all, unless I'm mistaken, I remember Ubuntu 17.04 doing seemless transitions between a wired and a wireless connection. i.e. I am currently on WiFi but plug the ethernet cable in, all my downloads etc continue over the wire and both interfaces get the same IP. But for a little while now, wired and wireless get different IPs, and my transfers are interrupted. Is there anything I need to do on the laptop to14:40
hfpfix it or is it a router issue?14:40
swift110hey hfp14:41
hfphi swift11014:42
quadrupleHi, I need help with a OpenCL/OpenGL application on a headless ubuntu 16.04 server. I can get an output of glxgears using VirtualGL but the application I want to run gives me a -5 error (CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES). Is this more likely an issue related to the application or to the installation of the drivers?14:45
JonelethIrenicuswhat is the iconv library?14:46
cristian_cthe server has disconnected me14:47
cristian_chas anyone answered to me?14:47
doug16kcristian_c, I don't see any14:49
swift110how are you hfp14:51
Gaming4JCAre there any MMOGs for Ubuntu anymore? Seems most of the multiplayer scene died off :o15:00
swift110how are you hfp15:00
ToadisattvaI want linux multiplayer games!15:05
Toadisattvapreferably not fantasy based though, sci-fi worlds would be ideal :)15:05
cristian_cdoug16k: ok, then I post it again15:07
cristian_cI've a ite 9135 dvb chip (with remote control), it uses dvb-afatech9035 driver, and i've typed sudo ir-keytable; ir-keytable and evtest perform successfully keypresses on the remote control. Unfortunately, enabled protocol field is empty and if I try to configure shortcuts in kaffeine, many keys don't work15:08
cristian_cI've tried to modprobe some nec modules, because the remote control support the nec protocol, but I don't know how to solve the issue15:09
cristian_cAny ideas?15:09
slimjimflimToadisattva: install steam15:14
slimjimflimor assaultcube15:14
ToadisattvaI have a love hate relationship with steam, name I love to hate on it :P15:18
Toadisattvanamely*15:18
slimjimflimwell it works natively on liux now15:18
slimjimflim*linux15:19
slimjimflimmy favorite is counterstrike source. haven't played it in a while15:19
Gaming4JCI don't like steam much either, feels so bloated... and it uses lots of bandwith15:19
Toadisattvait's fairly limited on what games it will run on linux isn't it?15:21
ToadisattvaI recall having to run the windows version in wine last time I was using it to play with friends15:21
slimjimflimi wanna say about half run on linux last i checked Toadisattva probably more now15:21
Toadisattvaoh so they are making progress on it15:22
Toadisattvathat's good to hear15:22
slimjimflimToadisattva: you don't need wine anymore15:22
slimjimflimthey have their own desktop environment15:22
ToadisattvaI know there is a linux version15:22
Toadisattvabut I couldn't play my age of empires 2 with my friends on it for example15:22
slimjimflimit's pretty stable15:22
Toadisattvaso I was forced to use the windows version in wine to play with em15:22
slimjimflimidk about aoe15:23
Toadisattvajust one example, it was maybe a year or two ago, but the linux gaming selection at the time was pretty limitied15:23
quadrupleanyone here who has experiences with OpenCL?15:24
ToadisattvaI know the various gpu manufacturers are starting to offer linux specific drivers and that's good to see15:24
Toadisattvaonce they finally open up linux gaming we can let windoze die forever15:24
Toadisattva:P15:24
Gaming4JCRIP Windows :)15:25
slimjimflimwindows died when androidos was released15:26
slimjimflimnow we'll have to wait for android to die15:27
Toadisattvayou can't play fallout 4 on android ***yet***15:27
Toadisattvahehe15:27
slimjimflimvalid point15:28
Bendri changed the core dumps path in core_pattern but i found no core dump files there15:37
Bendrdoug16k15:37
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ferniehi, seems that unredirecting fullscreen windows does not work in 17.1015:40
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scatterphi i have something running connecting to 127.0.0.1:4199 i see it in netstat -an how can i identify what it is thats runing pid and name ?16:06
Gaming4JCscatterp: try "netstat -peanut"16:08
Gaming4JCor... "sudo lsof -i:4199"16:08
glacialhello, gentlemen.16:19
glacialhow can i completely disable automatic updates in Ubuntu Xenial 16.04.3 LTS?16:19
glacialhow to completely disable all actions which Ubuntu takes in anticipation of system update?16:19
glaciali am especially annoyed because of automatic attempts of package database update.16:19
glacialwhen i truncate /etc/apt/sources.list to zero, Ubuntu still tries to update package database, which obviously results in failure (because there are no sources), and after this information about available updates reset to nothing (i.e. ``apt-get upgrade --no-download'' will show "no packages can be updated")16:19
ToadisattvaI know for specific programs you can lock version in synaptic but I don't know for the OS itself, maybe there is an option there?16:20
glaciali mean, how can i completely disable all HIDDEN, INVISIBLE background behavior related to updates?16:23
glacialafter that i will update everything only using explicit apt-get commands16:23
jerichowasahoaxglacial: why are you so allergic to automatic package database updates16:24
glacialbecause i am on mobile internet16:24
Gaming4JCglacial: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/how-to-disable-automatic-update-ubuntu16:24
glacialwill read this page16:25
glacialnothing new.  i already had "never" as value of "automatically check for updates" setting16:32
smallfoot-Help, Firefox is old version!! outdated!16:45
cristian_csmallfoot-: ?16:51
madmangun@smallfoot - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/download-firefox-57-nightly16:51
cristian_cBashing-om: hi16:55
Bashing-omcristian_c: Hey hey .16:55
cristian_cBashing-om: I've made some measures by two tempersture probes, yesterday16:56
cristian_cconnected to ide plugs16:57
Bashing-omcristian_c: And able to read out ?16:58
cristian_cBashing-om: yeah, the mini-displays turned on when I've turned on the pc16:59
Bashing-omcristian_c: :) some kind of smarts in your part .17:00
cristian_cBashing-om: unfortunateky, measures are not helpful, they range from 29 to 39 celcius17:00
Bashing-omcristian_c: corealiss effects ? fans effects ?17:02
cristian_cBashing-om: I've noticed fan accelerates when temperature in hwinfo raises up to 81-85 and over celcius17:02
Bashing-omcristian_c: This a laptop ? they tend to run hot as norm .17:04
cristian_cBashing-om: I can say that a temperature of 38 on temp sensor probe matches 85-temperature on hwinfo, about17:05
cristian_cBashing-om: no, I've connected the probes into the case, using the two ide connectors left17:06
Bashing-omcristian_c: cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp .17:06
cristian_cBashing-om: the probes hav3 a mini dispkay , so they don't communicate with the os, and they show the vslue on the display17:07
cristian_cBashing-om: btw, I'll try your command on 17.0417:07
cristian_cfor showing the temp caputred by cpu sensor17:08
cristian_cBashing-om: when the display shows 32 celcius, hwinfo shows about 65-69 for cpu package17:09
Bashing-omcristian_c: I would think conversion factors .17:10
dekatchperhaps they reading it differntly17:10
dekatchif your cpu is under load, id assume 65-69 is the correct one17:11
dekatch32 celsius is basically an idle temperatur if your system runs cooler fans.17:11
cristian_csummarizing: even if I notice that if temps measured with probes raise when temp measured by hwinfo software raise, temperatures measured by the probes are not reliable, because the probe is put next to the heatsink  and the heatspreader17:11
cristian_cBashing-om: it's notmal that temp probes measure a lower tempersture than software does, because probe is not diectly put between heatsink and cpu17:13
cristian_cwhere it's the real temp of the cpu17:13
dekatchjust googled. 32 celsius would be 90 fahrenheit. so its not a conversion issue17:14
cristian_cdekatch: the max value on the probe was 38-38.517:14
dekatchso both values should be celsius17:14
cristian_cno, I've put a second probe into the case, in the free air17:15
dekatchoh i may have totally misunderstood the issue17:15
cristian_cand it measures only some values below the first probe (that was put next the cpu, touchin the side of heatspreader17:16
dekatchyou put a sensor somewhere and you try to read from it?17:16
cristian_cdekatch: np17:16
cristian_cdekatch: I've put a stand-alone (not connected to os) in order to compare temperatures with ones measured by s0ftware17:17
cristian_c*software17:17
cristian_cbut they are not very comparable17:17
cristian_c*stand-alone sensor17:17
dekatchnah ofc not. sry shouldnt have intervened.17:18
dekatchbut as i understand it, you try to measure temperatur from your cpu with an probe/sensor put somewhere near to it?17:19
dekatchdoesnt work.17:19
cristian_cdekatch: https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1RbbZOpXXXXaKXFXXq6xXFXXXX/1-Meter-Metal-Probe-Thermometer-Temperature-Digital-Display-Sensor-Module-For-Computer-Air-Conditioner-Water-Measurement.jpg17:19
cristian_cthe first pic I've found on google17:20
dekatchyea, and that thingie floats in your case17:20
cristian_cyeah17:20
cristian_cI've made measures with open case17:20
dekatchits measuring at best case airflow temperature17:20
dekatchbut can never measure cpu temp17:20
cristian_cI've two probes, one measured the airflow, another is put touching the hestspreader17:21
dekatchnot accurate as well17:21
cristian_c(not over the heatspreader, but aside)17:21
cristian_cdekatch: I know17:21
dekatchthe heatspreader has less temperature than the cpu itself17:21
cristian_cyeah, snd it explains because the probe measures a temp lower of 30 celcius than software17:22
cristian_c*why17:22
cristian_cbut it gives an odea of tempersture inside the case, when the fan rotates at high speed17:23
dekatchwell, thats kinda odd. i wouldnt call it "software measuring"17:23
dekatchsince you need software as well to read from your probes17:23
dekatchbut i assume hwinfo reads from mainboard integrated probes17:24
cristian_cI'll try the Bashing-om command, in order to see what value I'll get from /sys17:24
smallfoot-Help, Firefox is old version!! outdated!17:25
cristian_cdekatch: sorry, I mean that probe read the temp and send it directly to the mini-display17:25
dekatchdidnt bother to much with that. but your probes can never measure real cpu temp17:25
smallfoot-ubuntu have old firefox 5517:25
smallfoot-windows have firefox 5617:25
cristian_cdekatch: ok, Bashing-om suggested me to try a couple of probes, btw17:25
dekatchcristian_c, so thats basically just sufficent for airflow temp at all then17:26
cristian_cyeah17:26
cristian_cbut, remember that csse was open when I did the measure17:26
cristian_cwith probes17:26
dekatchuh, feel like i missed something. didnt you try to compare cpu temps?17:26
dekatchlol sry for my nonsense if that wasnt the case17:26
cristian_cand it was outside of its location, at that moment17:27
cristian_cnp17:27
cristian_cdekatch: I've also made some screenshots of hwinfo, while measuring17:27
cristian_c(I've to say that hwmon is buggy regarding my cpu and my it6820e mobo chip17:28
cristian_c)17:28
cristian_cso, linux doesn't detect real temperatures17:29
cristian_camd developers should hire one dev in order to fix bugs for kaveri, and fam15th platform17:30
cristian_c*amd should17:30
cristian_c(about it87 driver)17:31
cristian_czenguy-: hi17:32
cristian_cI remember you stsyed in android channels, in psst, but I'm wrong maybe17:32
twinflyerHey guys, I recently moved from Arch back to ubuntu because I had problems with unreal engine on Arch. Now I have a new problem on ubuntu: Every time i start the game (editor itself works just fine) X freezes and theres no log about it (X log, sys log and dmesg seem to stop) I can move my mouse though. Any hints where I should check for details?17:33
twinflyerI'm on 16.0417:33
cristian_ctwinflyer: in past, I tried netconsole for these particular cases, but it did registered nothing17:36
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twinflyercristian_c: I can ssh into the machine to read the logs. I checked I checked X log, syslog and dmesg but I cant find anything which indicates some sort of crash / error.17:37
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cristian_ctwinflyer: you could try to use ldd command with the unreal editor executsble, in order to figure out what libraries are to blame17:38
twinflyercristian_c: theres a ton of libs required. I'm not totally sure what I should do with that information though17:42
cristian_ctwinflyer: if a X freezes happen it could be a graphics library somewhat17:43
cristian_ctwinflyer: what video drivers are you using?17:44
twinflyercristian_c: since I'm using an amd R9 390 I have to use amdgpu.17:45
twinflyercristian_c: afaik radeon doesn't support the R9 390 anymore. I loaded it just for testing purposes and the problem persists17:46
cristian_ctwinflyer: I'm not sure if r9 390 supports amdgpu-pro in placemof amdgpu radeonSI17:47
Bashing-omtwinflyer: per: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx you can use the  AMDGPU-Pro Driver  :)17:49
twinflyercristian_c: according to amd the 390 is supported. I didn't try the propietary amdgpu-pro yet but it might be worth giving it a try17:49
cristian_chttp://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx17:50
twinflyerBashing-om, cristian_c: thank you, I give amdgpu-pro a shot right away17:51
cristian_cAMD Radeon™ R9 390 Graphics is listed under AMD Product Family Compatibility  table​17:51
cristian_ctwinflyer: 16.04.3?17:52
twinflyercristian_c: yes17:52
cristian_ctwinflyer: have you installed the relase point stack with support for newer kernels and xorg17:53
cristian_c?17:53
cristian_c*point release package17:53
twinflyercristian_c: I installed the system yesterday and updated everything right away. What package do you mean?17:54
Bashing-omcristian_c: twinflyer:: If a ferh install of 16,04.3 then HWE is enabled by default :)17:56
Bashing-omfresh*17:56
cristian_cah, ok17:57
cristian_c 17:57
cristian_csudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0417:57
Bashing-omtwinflyer: "sysop@x1604:~$ uname -r >> 4.4.0-96-generic " You should have the HWE kernel 4.10 ???17:58
twinflyerBashing-om: yes I'm on 4.1018:00
cristian_cBashing-om: I'm fiddling with ite 9135 dvb usb chip, thst uses af9035 driver18:00
cristian_cBashing-om: the tuner works, and I'm trying to configure the remote control18:00
cristian_cI mean: evtest and ir-keytables show keypresses of all the keys on the remote18:01
Bashing-omcristian_c: Now ya way out of my experience range . No idea of that configuration .18:02
cristian_cBashing-om: oh, sorry18:02
cristian_cnp18:02
TobaOK, having a weird Unity issue.. I'm running 16.04.3 LTS (xenial)18:04
TobaI've plugged in an external 4k monitor and adjusted the panel/menu scaling to make it workble18:05
Tobabut since a 4k monitor is very large, looking at things maximized is less useful than it would be on a smaller/lower res monitor. So I unmaximized my already running apps18:06
Tobaand now I ... can't find them. I alt-tab to them, but they don't show.18:06
TobaOf course, my overall set of displays in the 'configure displays' dialog is not a rectangle... I have the smaller laptop lower and to the left as it's on the desk next to the monitor, to my left.18:06
TobaI suspect the windows are "located" in some kind of fake area of the coordinate space and as such don't show18:07
Tobais there some kind of trick to move everything within the space that actually corresponds to real pixels?18:07
madmangunalt+spacebar does that help?18:08
Tobaaha18:09
Tobaand then i can select 'move' and use the kb to bring it in view18:09
Tobathanks.. that works18:09
madmangunyep :)18:09
madmangunno problem Toba18:09
TobaI just hope this doesn't become a thing I have to do every time i dock/undock my laptop at my desk...18:10
Tobathat'd be irritating18:10
Bashing-omToba: Have you seen: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI ?18:10
TobaI will read that, thanks for the tip.18:10
marahinHello! I'm working on Ubuntu 17.04 with triple monitor setup, used with Xinerama "1" setting. My question is: is there a way to customize window grid (instead of LEFT HALF, RIGHT HALF, where the X server interprets 3 screens as 1 virutal screen, meaning half = one and a half screen)18:31
marahinso I could actually set the windows to take 33% part of the screen? So left, middle and right monitor?18:31
marahinthis works great without the Xinerama setting, but I kinda need it for games.18:31
marahinit's kinda → http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Grid in Ideas section (the first one), but maybe somoene has stomped upon a solution?18:36
dekatchyou could also try ##linux marahin18:45
dekatchnot sure, you are only connected to ubuntu. maybe some there have had same issues18:46
KallDrexxHi all.  I am trying to ensure that the vfio and pci_stub modules are loaded *before* the amdgpu module is loaded (so the amdgpu driver doesn't claim my 2nd gpu).  I did this by blacklisting amdgpu and adding it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, and then updated my initramfs.  However, when I boot up amdgpu is never loaded.  If I manually modprobe amdgpu everything work perfectly but is there some way to make it auto-load amdgpu?18:47
renlothis is probably a stupid question but, I have Ubuntu 16.04, I've downloaded FF developer edition, how can I replace the default FF with this new FF?18:50
renloalso, is there an equivalent to 'gnome-open' in Ub 16?18:51
zertyuihi there18:52
zertyuianyone good on networking ?18:52
akikrenlo: you can remove firefox with "sudo apt-get remove firefox firefox-locale-en"18:52
Bashing-omzertyui: Just ask your question .18:53
Bashing-om!ask | zertyui18:53
ubottuzertyui: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:53
renloakik: is it possible to install ff dev via apt-get?18:53
twinflyercristian_c, Bashing-om: It took some time (amd links to an outdated download on their amdgpu-pro landing page, so I had to recover my system like 5 times). I finally found the latest version on the install instruction page and everything is working now. Thank you for pointing at amdgpu-pro : )18:54
renlooh wait I see it, nvm akik18:54
akikrenlo: what is ff dev?18:54
renloI think it has some dev tools?18:55
renlolike the ability to inspect the DOM for web dev18:55
akikrenlo: where did you download it from? normal firefox has the inspector too18:55
Bashing-omtwinflyer: :) The best part is that you progressed 2 steps up on the learning curve .18:55
akikrenlo: don't know if this is the same inspector that you mean, but try pressing f12 in firefox18:57
renloakik: looks like one diff is that the extensions dont need to be signed18:57
renlocan probably disable some security features haha18:57
renlomain thing I wanted was the v57 of ff which runs fast18:58
zertyuii got 2 servers running on linux, the first one with 2 network interface the second one with one network interface18:58
zertyuithe second server communicate with his LAN @IP but can not access to internet18:58
zertyuithe first server able to access internet and to the LAN18:58
zertyuihow to give access to internet on the second server ?18:59
twinflyerBashing-om: learning never ends :D Destroying systems teaches a lot of stuff. I learned that the hard way since I'm using Archlinux on my notbook as a daily driver and guess what: I even had to reinstall the package manager manually one time18:59
akikrenlo: firefox 57 is not released yet18:59
renloit's in beta, dev edition uses beta18:59
Bashing-omtwinflyer: Man of my own heart :) . Get pat the GUI and it becomes the never ending story :)19:01
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KallDrexxIn 16.04 is there any reliable way to change module load order, since blacklisting the module causes it to be ignored in initramfs-tools19:09
Bashing-omanddam: grub as the bootloader ? then there is the #grub channel .19:17
oerheks"blacklisting the module causes it to be ignored "... that is the purpose of blacklisting19:18
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KallDrexxoerheks - Yea I understand that, but it's the only way I've found to make my module load after other modules :-/19:22
KallDrexxor rather to influence load order in any capacity19:22
ioriaKallDrexx, dependencies issue ? the module may be loaded if another non-blacklisted module depends on it19:26
KallDrexxioria: I need to load the amdgpu module after pci-stub and xen-pciback so those can claim my 2nd GPU.  Amdgpu module always tries to claim both GPUs and then I can't pass them through to a VM19:27
ioriaKallDrexx, passthrough ?19:28
KallDrexxso I don't know if another module is depending on it (doubt it but who knows) but blacklisting is the only way I've found to get it to load after everything is claimed19:28
KallDrexxioria: So Xen can give full direct access of my 2nd graphics card to my virtual machine19:28
ioriaKallDrexx, can't help you, sy19:29
KallDrexxessentially if I can just get amdgpu module loaded prior to X but at the end of module loading I'd be golden.  I can work around it by manually "modprobe amdgpu" but that's annoying, and putting that in /etc/rc.local means it loads with a delay, causing X to restart after I've already logged in19:31
ioriaKallDrexx, maybe you can work on lightdm, or what you have19:33
stochastixIf I install 17.04 now, Ill be able to update it to the LTS easily when it comes out right?19:34
ioriastochastix, maybe19:34
KallDrexx I'm using Xubuntu, so I don't know if they use lightDM by default or what19:34
stochastixhmm, well, chances are better than being able to upgrade to it from 16.04 I imagine?19:34
ioriaKallDrexx, yeah19:35
ioriastochastix, nope19:35
stochastixDoes that mean there is a special effort for an upgrade path from 16.04, or that means they are equally unlikely to be upgradeable?19:36
ioriastochastix, in my exp, depends mainly on what have you done on your sys before the do-release-upgrade19:36
stochastixHmm, ok. well just see how it goes.19:37
ioriastochastix, meaning, if your sys is 'clean' you just change Prompt=normal to Prompt=lts19:38
dougielstochastix, keep your /home on a seperate partition and then on the next install don't format it - is that help?19:39
stochastixCan you do something like change repos, and update everything and just arrive there hopefully unscathed? :)19:39
dougielthen atleast all you personal data and documents are kept for your new install19:39
ioriastochastix, it's recommended on ubuntu.... might work sometimes19:40
dougielstochastix, you can do it but I doubt unscathed19:40
ioria*not19:40
stochastixOk, Im kind of wondering because Im considering installing Ubuntu and running a bunch of Ubuntu LXC containers.19:41
ioriastochastix, just don't install weird (=outside) stuff19:42
stochastixIf i backup the containers, and reinstall a newer version of Ubuntu, is it going to still run ok, and then there is upgrading all of the containers somehow19:42
fastgate1hi19:43
fastgate1why when i press "shutdown"19:43
fastgate1it simply logout the user?19:43
fastgate1it does not shutdown the system19:43
stochastixOr, do the LXC containers somehow still stay linked to the base system, or after they are deployed, they have there own separate system that needs to be upgraded.  I think the latter is the case.19:43
Bashing-omcristian_c: New one on the block I see : https://github.com/amanusk/s-tui . Might be of value in your use case .19:43
cristian_cBashing-om: cool, thanks!20:00
Moe_AHello, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and I want to upgrade to 17.04, I have python defaults (2.7 and 3.5) and I manually installed 3.6, I heard 3.6 is available in 17.x repos so should I remove it before upgrading to 17.04?20:14
oerheks17.04 gives python3  3.5.3-1 as standard, but pyton3.6 is available. i hope manually installed packages get removed during upgrade..20:18
oerheks!info python3.620:18
ubottupython3.6 (source: python3.6): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.6). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.1-1ubuntu0~17.04.0 (zesty), package size 159 kB, installed size 288 kB20:18
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Moe_ASo if I remove the PPA from sources.list, python 3.6 will get removed when upgrading?20:19
oerheksMoe_A, yes20:20
oerheksbut you can easily reinstall it after upgrade20:20
Moe_AAlright, thanks for the info!20:21
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fastgate1 why when i press "shutdown", it simply logout the user? it does not shutdown the system20:56
gambl0rehow do i kill system monitor20:57
gambl0reit seems to be frozen20:57
Toadisattvait should shut down the system when you hit shutdown20:57
Toadisattvatry control alt backspace for the frozen system20:58
Toadisattvaor control alt T to pop a terminal20:58
gambl0reonly system monitor is frozen20:58
gambl0reeverything else is fine20:58
Toadisattvado the control alt t and type xkill it'll let you click the frozen window and kill it20:59
gambl0reoh damn...thats awesome20:59
Toadisattvahandy trick for sure20:59
gambl0reit's better than task manager20:59
hazrpg[laptop]anyone got any knowledge on secure boot? When I installed Ubuntu, the option for 3rd party drivers said that I needed to disable secure boot - this to me seems like a workaround instead of actually solving the problem. Is there a way I can keep secure boot enabled but allow some third party stuff?21:24
Toadisattvathat one I don't have the answer for21:28
* Toadisattva pulls out his notebook and waits for a greater nerd than himself to come along21:28
oerheksnot sure this page is any help, mokutils to sign your driver.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/755238/why-disabling-secure-boot-is-enforced-policy-when-installing-3rd-party-modules21:30
fastgate1 why when i press "shutdown", it simply logout the user? it does not shutdown the system21:45
dougielbug21:46
dougielerr - common problem here21:46
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VystyI'm formatting an external HD to use for purposes of backing up my system. What's the best way to format it for optimal performance and longevity? Ubuntu is giving me two options. 1. Erase by either overwriting existing data with zeroes, or not. 2. FAT, NTFS, or Ext4?21:55
histoVysty: will the drive be used only with linux?21:59
Toadisattvaonly overwrite with zeros if you concerned with someone being able to retrieve data that was previously on there, otherwise the standard format is fine22:01
histoVysty: if you are going to only use it with linux use ext4 if you need compatibility across platforms use ntfs22:01
Toadisattvafat is compatible with all operating systems but has a size limit of a few gigs, ntfs is the windows file system, ext4 if you are only using linux systems22:01
VystyI'm planning on only using Linux systems.22:01
VystyI simply want to use it as a backup in case my computer crashes.22:02
Toadisattvahow big is the drive?22:02
VystyNot as extra storage.22:02
VystyEither 500 GB or 1 TB.22:02
Toadisattvathe ext4 is probably your best bet in that case22:02
VystyThat's what I'm thinking. Thanks for the advice. I did read, though, that it's SUPER important to unmount properly with Ext4. I guess even moreso than NTFS.22:03
VystyIs that true/an issue?22:03
Bashing-omVysty: That large of a drive - partition to suit your needs . why wasre all that space ?22:03
VystyBashing-om: The only need I have for it is backup in case my computer crashes.22:03
Toadisattvayeah it can corrupt the file system if you don't unmount with ext422:03
VystyToadisattva: It can corrupt *the whole thing* or just whatever it was working on at the time?22:04
Toadisattvabut it's usually fairly easy to recover usually fairly keywords there22:04
Toadisattvalol22:04
Bashing-omVysty: UNmount is VERY important !22:04
VystyAnother question: what's a simple and reliable piece of software for backing up my whole system?22:05
Bashing-om!backup | Vysty22:08
ubottuVysty: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning22:08
Bashing-omVysty: But, I do not agree that a full system backup is of value . System files are on the install - All that is needed is to backup personal files and maybe some configs .22:11
buggaboosanchezHas anyone installed wordpress and / or installed it from this tutorial? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-with-lamp-on-ubuntu-16-0422:12
buggaboosanchez^ When I get to the step to launch the installer it does not work.  I also have phpmyadmin installed and it works fine.22:12
VystyBashing-om: What's the best way to go about that?22:13
Bashing-omVysty: Well, I use rsync and copy off my data directoroes ( 3 places ! ) .22:15
buggaboosanchezdoes the content of /tmp  persist through a reboot?  ( I cant reboot now to test it )22:35
LTCDGuys just did this on my 500GB HDD, how long should it take? sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda22:36
mguybuggaboosanchez: it should...what is the value of TMPTIME in /etc/default/rcS22:36
hazrpg[laptop]oerheks: sort of... I saw that askubuntu page before I came here - it outlines the problem, and suggests what tools to use but not how to use the tools. The bit I'm struggling with is how to use mokutils and on which packages do I need to sign.22:39
buggaboosanchezmguy: sorry for the delay - it appars to be commented out22:47
buggaboosanchezThat particular line is commented ( by default I guess cause I never changed it )22:47
zeeblefritzis this a good place to get help installing amd video drivers and also app sdk?22:52
realm174Hi all. I might have messed up my ssh config (n00b here).  What's the easiest way to start fresh?22:52
fastgate1 why when i press "shutdown", it simply logout the user? it does not shutdown the system22:54
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Bashing-omzeeblefritz: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx . Do you qualify for other than the defaults ?22:58
zeeblefritzBashing-om: I don't understand your question23:02
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: as of 16.04 release AND srivers are in the kernel . If your card is recent enough then AMD also provides a proprietary overlay .23:04
Bashing-omAMD drivers are in **23:04
zeeblefritzahh. I checked the list It seems this card the r9 280x is not in the list23:05
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: Humm maybe yes . let me check .23:05
billygoatIs there a way to change single finger motions to be gestures on a touchpad. I'd like to use single finger swipes to change workspaces.23:05
billygoat?23:05
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx . What are you running now ' lsmod | grep radeon ; lsmod | grep amdgpu ' ?23:10
zeeblefritzBashing-om: neither of those commands returns a result23:11
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: ouch ! no driver loaded ? what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?23:13
zeeblefritzum too long to list. can you help me pastebin. i haven't used that in a whiel23:13
zeeblefritzit definitely doesn't have a driver loaded as it is returning my clock speed at 33mhz23:14
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: sure .. terminal command ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .23:15
zeeblefritzBashing-om http://termbin.com/b3a923:16
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: Ouch !! ..,., Yeah, no driver(s) loaded .. but this is twinned AMD cards .. I do not KNOW . Is this arrangement supportable in linux ? others will have to advise .23:17
zeeblefritzthere are 2 cards. crossfire is enabled via the driver.23:18
zeeblefritzi haven't used this system in a few months. when I booted there was a problem loading so I "fixed" it in recovery.23:19
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: Others with the experience here will have to advise . Last I was aware non support from AMD .23:19
zeeblefritzjust now realized I have no driver. so I guess I use the radeon_gpu driver not the pro driver right?23:19
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: Sorry I have no expereince base for your situation.23:20
zeeblefritzif it was one card would yoU?23:20
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: Yes .. one card I can fingure our way through . But the 2 card working is the better option .23:21
zeeblefritzmeh. I could care less about that at the moment.23:21
zeeblefritzI use windows for gaming which is why i have 223:22
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: then pull a card .. boot up and see if the kernel configures it's self :)23:22
zeeblefritzi will try that. atm the dist upgrade is downloading. so i will do that after23:23
Bashing-omzeeblefritz: K .. we will be here to help if an issue continues ( possible) .23:23
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Kali_Yugamight not be an ubuntu problem. we got 1 router but my wifi network shows the same router twice as (wlan0) & (wlan1)... any Idea why i have two wifi spots?23:43
b0nnhrm I'm running a script that greps /etc/shadow for a user; the script uses ssh-pass23:51
slimjimflimKali_Yuga: #networking23:52
b0nnbut for some ips it's returning nothing, suggesting the user isn't on that server; but when I login ..manually.. to check.. the user is there23:52
b0nnthis suggests that my logging in is causing the e/tc/shadow ti be updated, if so how do I find out?23:52

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