[06:25] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <vithiri> Mornings.
[08:02] <Laney> hai
[08:07] <didrocks> hey hey Laney!
[08:09] <willcooke> morning
[08:12] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[08:31] <Laney> hi didrocks
[08:31] <Laney> get back ok?
[08:35] <didrocks> yeah, the delay of the first flight was short enough to not impact the second flight
[08:35] <didrocks> and you?
[08:41] <Laney> pretty straightforward, was home for lunch
[08:41] <Laney> still jet lagging a bit i think
[08:42] <didrocks> heh, same here
[08:43] <willcooke> Slept til 11 yesterday
[08:43] <willcooke> oops
[08:43] <didrocks> Martin being sick, so waking up early and needing attention yesterday evening and this morning
[08:43] <Laney> /o\
[08:46] <koza> morning willcooke, how is NY this autumn?
[08:46] <willcooke> hey koza, hot, smelly, noisy, fun - in that order
[08:46] <willcooke> :)
[08:46] <koza> same as SF then
[08:48] <koza> willcooke, anythin interesting happened in terms of desktop, bt, snaps vs deb, etc...? should we sync or something?
[08:49] <willcooke> koza, Happy to sync up, not much to report though
[08:51] <koza> willcooke, as ok, so maybe on regular bt weekly then
[08:54] <willcooke> koza, +1
[09:56] <tseliot> Laney: my workaround for gdm doesn't seem to be needed any more with the 384 nvidia series (which I haven't uploaded yet)
[10:07] <Laney> tseliot: nice, what changed?
[10:08] <tseliot> Laney: honesty, I have no idea. A bug somewhere in the 375 series, I suppose
[10:08] <tseliot> Laney: I haven't tested the latest 384 driver, but I'll let you know
[10:13] <Laney> tseliot: I thought it was intentional/known to not work until something or other was fixed in mutter/the driver
[10:14] <Laney> or maybe just the wayland part but the X-broken-on-wayland part was always a bug?
[10:14] <tseliot> Laney: (luckily) there was a miscommunication problem.
[10:14] <Laney> so............ can we enable KMS by default for nvidia then?
[10:16] <tseliot> Laney: probably. I need to check if/why is still disabled by default
[10:18] <Laney> cool
[10:18] <Laney> maybe that part is a next cycle thing
[10:55] <tseliot> yep
[11:59] <popey> In 17.10 - I previously installed gnome-session - but i just tried removing/purging it, but it still shows up in gdm cog menu. Is there some package I have missed removing?
[12:02] <didrocks> have you rebooted in between?
[12:02] <popey> yes
[12:05] <popey> I have "GNOME Classic", "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu on Xorg" as options, to be clear
[12:06] <dobey> gnome-session-fallback ?
[12:07] <popey> you mean gnome-session-flashback? That's also uninstalled
[12:07] <dobey> what does dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions give?
[12:08] <popey> ubuntu-session, gnome-shell-extensions: /usr/share/xsessions
[12:09] <Laney> gnome-shell-extensions provides classic
[12:09] <Laney> iirc
[12:10] <dobey> yep
[12:10] <popey> looks that way, thanks :)
[12:30] <Gargoyle> Think I have a bug in the display prefs. I searched launchpad bugs for "display" and got nothing which is a bit unexpected. Is there a knack to searching launchpad?
[12:31] <Gargoyle> FYI, The bug is, goto prefs->devices->display. Change the scale to 200% (I don't get a prompt to apply changes). Change back to 100% and now it gives me an "apply" prompt.
[12:31] <didrocks> it's in gnome-control-center
[12:32] <didrocks> if you want to report a bug against it :)
[12:32] <Gargoyle> upstream then?
[12:33] <didrocks> yeah, that part is upstream AFAIK, so bugzilla would be good
[13:05] <jbicha> popey: sorry that the GNOME Classic package name isn't obvious. I don't know how to fix that without causing problems for people upgrading who do use Classic
[13:06] <popey> No worries :)
[13:50] <ThorHop[m]> A wild popey appears...
[13:51] <didrocks> just had a thought about it, we can fix the name and preserve people upgrading
[13:51] <didrocks> adding a recommends from g-s-extenstions on a new gnome-classic package (from the same source)
[13:51] <didrocks> and g-c which deps on g-s-extensions
[13:51] <didrocks> let's do that next cycle
[13:59] <jbicha> ok
[14:45] <jbicha> didrocks: do you want to try demoting xterm? LP: #1720482
[14:48] <didrocks> jbicha: they are a lot of rdepends, did you check all them are in universe?
[14:49] <didrocks> seems so from the bug report
[14:49] <jbicha> didrocks: I believe that's in the bug report
[14:50] <jbicha> xterm doesn't show up on component-mismatches but I think it's worth trying
[14:50] <didrocks> yeah, with the g-t provides, that should be ok
[14:51] <Laney> there's a chance that this could cause gnome-terminal to be included in an image when it wasn't before
[14:51] <didrocks> done
[14:51] <didrocks> yeah
[14:51] <didrocks> depending on the way germinate treat that
[14:51] <didrocks> if we don't have other providers
[14:51] <jbicha> unless we want to wait until 18.04?
[14:51] <Laney> compare seeded-in-ubuntu today with tomorrow
[14:51] <didrocks> let's give it a try, it's easy to fix
[14:52] <didrocks> yep
[14:52] <didrocks> jbicha: you agree having a look tomorrow? ^
[14:52] <jbicha> yes
[14:52] <didrocks> (can do a quick look as well, but better to be 2 to remember ;))
[14:52] <Laney> cheers
[15:19] <andyrock> good morning!
[15:19] <willcooke> hey andyrock
[15:25] <didrocks> hey andyrock!
[15:26] <andyrock> hey didrocks willcooke !
[16:43] <jbicha> andyrock: hi, could you leave a comment when you close a bug as Opinion like LP: #1720736 ? I think it's more polite
[16:44] <andyrock> jbicha: marking as opinion is not closing
[16:44] <jbicha> yes it is
[16:44] <andyrock> mmm
[16:45] <jbicha> it no longer shows up in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[16:46] <andyrock> ok I opened up it again
[16:46] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses
[16:46] <jbicha> Opinion might be correct here.
[16:46] <andyrock> thanks for clarification
[16:47] <jbicha> There's lots of GNOME documentation that refers to the Activities Overview which won't make sense if the button isn't named Activities
[17:21] <jbicha> willcooke: can LP: #1717309 be closed now?
[17:22] <willcooke> jbicha, oh, yes
[17:22] <willcooke> jbicha, shall I?
[17:22] <jbicha> yes, thanks
[17:23] <willcooke> done.  Closed all of them
[17:24] <andyrock> jbicha: done
[18:45] <willcooke> night all