[00:57] sarnold: I'm presuming you aren't around? === giraffe is now known as Guest21598 === JanC is now known as Guest58454 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:22] LocutusOfBorg: would you like to update geary to 0.12.0 (released today)? [13:22] I intend to NMU it because I don't like leaving it as a git snapshot in Debian but the delay may be too long for artful [13:23] sorry but ENOTIME for some time [13:23] I have 500 packages to look at [13:25] wow ok [14:12] Laney: Any chance you can look at the FFe at bug #1707929? [14:12] bug 1707929 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Revert blacklisting of Indic layouts" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707929 [14:15] GunnarHj: sorry about that - looks OK to me, feel free to merge the pkg with Debian (that's the only change there) [14:15] Laney: Right; thanks! [14:17] speaking of Indic, we should discuss LP: #1719934 comment 5, maybe at tomorrow's Desktop meeting? [14:17] Launchpad bug 1719934 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Missing fonts in list of languages" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719934 [14:37] jbicha, can you use another bug report instead of repurposing this one ? It's specifically about missing fonts not moving others from one seed to another [14:38] jibel: sure, but I was pointing out that there were other Indic fonts dropped at 16.04 besides those 2 [14:44] jibel: and if we put fonts-indic in desktop-common than your merge proposal is unnecessary [14:52] hm, is ubuntu using google's noto font family for extended language support or is planning to? noto is among the highest quality families with the widest language coverage out there. [14:53] i often find it cringeworthy to open some wikipedia page and see a mixture of good and bad design in the side panel, even if i speak only two of the listed languages [14:54] Laney: Another thing: Would appreciate your advice re bug #1720250. There is a proposal in this PPA: [14:54] bug 1720250 in im-config (Ubuntu) "im-config configuration ignored with gdm3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720250 [14:54] https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/im-config/+packages [14:54] and it's especially the change of debian/user/im-config.service which is over my head. The change seems to solve the issue, but we don't want bad side effects... [15:00] GunnarHj: where did that come from? [15:01] ok, comment 8 [15:01] Laney: Right, from Mitsuya Shibata. [15:03] not sure about this [15:03] I think basic.target is too basic - it'll execute with non-graphical logins [15:04] And it probably starts up multiple times (RemainAfterExit=yes)? [15:04] Don't think ripping out PartOf=graphical.target is good, we need that when we go back to user sessions properly in 18.04 [15:06] Laney: Any other idea for a solution this cycle? Without the change, im-config is ignored. [15:08] madigens: Ubuntu installs fonts-noto-cjk, fonts-nanum, fonts-liberation (and of course the Ubuntu fonts) by default [15:09] madigens: there are more font weights in fonts-noto-cjk-extra but that's a large package so we try to only install that for users of CJK language packs [15:10] jbicha: If you add fonts-indic, as we talked about, the coverage would be rather good. [15:11] GunnarHj: not off the top of my head [15:11] well, ok, maybe you can add an ExecStartPre to check $XDG_SOMETHING and not start if it's not set [15:12] Laney: I'd need handholding to do that. :) [15:15] problem is you want to make it exit when the user logs out [15:15] and ideally clear the environment variables [15:18] Laney: Are you saying that this mechanism would result in user session variables not being cleared at logout? [15:18] looks like it to me [15:18] only if you're logged in somewhere else at the same time [15:19] if it's the last session then the systemd --user instance itself would go away [15:19] I guess we had that bug before though [15:21] Laney: Any chance you could summarize your doubts on the bug report? Mitsuya might be able to address them. (AFAIK we haven't had this bug before.) [15:24] jbicha: are you using the super OTCs for the CJK fonts? they save a lot of space [15:25] madigens: We use the weight specific OTCs, not the "super" one. [15:27] oh well :) [15:28] madigens: The difference is small from a size POV. [15:34] GunnarHj: done, and I thought of something to maybe do [15:38] Laney: Do you mean that we should basically keep the current file, and add something in /etc/profile.d as a workaround for now? [15:39] I think it'd make for a better solution than a unit which might cause problems [15:40] well, give it a go :-) [15:40] Laney: Right, thanks for clarifying. We'll try that route. [15:41] I don't much like stuffing /etc/profile.d/ with desktop things, but it feels like it offers the cleanest solution atm [15:41] until we get the user sessions hooked back up again [17:59] hi [17:59] can someone help me with an environment variable issue? [17:59] some application sets XAUTHIROTY, I beleive it is lightdm, and it seems I can't override it [18:00] setting it in .profile is too late, and in .pam_environment it just gets overridden === santa is now known as Guest26839 === Guest26839 is now known as santa__ === santa__ is now known as santa_ [23:08] chrisccoulson: is there going to be a correspondign 56.0 upload to artful as to the other releases? [23:08] chrisccoulson: re: firefox [23:09] yes, but tomorrow now [23:09] well, later [23:09] chrisccoulson: ack, thanks [23:10] actually, I may as well just do it now [23:10] chrisccoulson: :) [23:11] chrisccoulson: didn't meant to pester you into doing it ASAP, just was curious and was responding to someone asking about it [23:28] thanks chrisccoulson