[13:54] Ahoy [13:55] I was wondering why, at some point last week, autoremove marked 'gnome-themes-standard' as fit for removal, but not 'gnome-themes-standard-data'. Without the former package, GTK2 support under Adwaita seemingly broke. [13:55] Other themes were OK. [13:56] It only manifested in one of my applications; hexchat. [13:56] (I'm running 17.10 Artful beta, upgrading most days.) [13:58] Tommeh: yes, I'm going to have gnome-session recommend gnome-themes-standard later this week so I think that will fix that issue [13:59] jbicha: ah, glad I'm not the only one. :) [14:00] A few more packages went with it, though as far as I can tell haven't caused me any grief (yet) [14:01] Well, I should say 'a few more gnome-* packages went with gnome-themes-standard: gnome-photos, gnome-music, gnome-initial-setup, gnome-characters [14:03] hmm, ok welcome to Ubuntu 17.10 [14:03] do you still have gnome-session installed? [14:04] Yes [14:04] If the others aren't used any more, that's fine :) [14:04] * Tommeh was just aiming to avoid any more brokeneness [14:05] those other packages are stuff that Ubuntu GNOME used to install by default but Ubuntu 17.10 doesn't [14:05] you can still install them if you like them [14:07] I must've missed something political - is Ubuntu GNOME now officially just "Ubuntu 17.10 w/ Gnome" in light of the 18.04 shift to gnome-shell? [14:09] yes, we should probably make an updated announcement [14:09] https://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-released/ [14:10] there's a vanilla-gnome-desktop package available now if you want something like the old Ubuntu GNOME but we do not plan to make ISOs for it [14:12] Ahh [14:12] I had read this, but must've skimmed over the bit about 17.10 being the shift point for non-LTS [14:13] My bad. I'm happy to stick with the mainstream - I was really only using Ubuntu Gnome because installing gnome-shell alongside regular Ubuntu was *terrible* [14:14] we were a bit late with doing the switch this cycle [14:14] but we figured that most people would rather have the supported Ubuntu now and we made a metapackage for those who don't [14:14] but even installing gnome-session and logging in to GNOME works well too [14:19] I can imagine it does now. Well, unless you use Adwaita & HexChat :D [14:20] (Until that recommends bit is fixedup) [14:36] Well anyway, keep up the good work, and thanks for all of your efforts - I'll leave you in peace :) [19:13] hrm. I'm running the live CD but I can't do much with it, because /cow is running out of space very quickly. Can I somehow assign more space to /cow? [20:24] muelli: there's a tool called mkusb that could help you make a live USB have persistent storage so that's there more space available [20:25] (Ubuntu's live images are designed as a demo and installer, not long-term use) [20:27] mkusb isn't in Ubuntu, you have to get it from a PPA [20:40] hrm. yeah, I'm trying to use the live cd as a demo for my app. But installing it seems to involve too many dependencies to fill the overlayfs :-\