[06:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:54] <cfaulk43> Good morning all you nice people! I wonder if you could help me; I'm trying to move away from 16.04.3 LTS to the latest version of Kubuntu, Zesty Zapus (17.04).  I can't get do-release-upgrade to pick anything up.
[09:55] <cfaulk43> I've tried a couple things on the net, do-release-upgrade -d to take it out of supported mode into devel, etc, but nothing's working.  If I do that, I get a traceback from python and something about it only being available from the "Latest supported relese">
[09:55] <cfaulk43> *release
[09:58] <cfaulk43> afk - brb
[10:02] <lordievader> cfaulk43: You need to configure the updater to allow upgrading to non LTS releases.
[10:03] <lordievader> That way you can upgrade to 16.10 -> 17.04
[10:07] <cfaulk43> Ok, can you explain to me how I do that please, lordievader?
[10:08] <cfaulk43> I'm in and out at the moment as i'm doing laundry, but I'm watching to catch any messages
[10:09] <BlackKatMike> Hi everyone! Got two 16.04 installations (one on a physical machine, one one a VMs) with the Kubuntu Backports PPA enaled (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu xenial main). After upgrading to Firefox 56, Flash plugin doesn't work anymore.
[10:09] <BlackKatMike> The checkbox in FF plugins configuration that disables Flash for certain domains seems uneffective.
[10:09] <lordievader> cfaulk43: i forgot, to be honest. But some googling will likely point you to documentation.
[10:09] <BlackKatMike> Is anyone experiencing the same problem?
[10:16] <hateball> lemme see, I am apparently on 55 still
[10:17] <BlackKatMike> Hateball: on the VM I still had 55. I tested Flash with that before upgrading and it worked, indeed.
[10:18] <BlackKatMike> But of course not anymore after upgrading to 56
[10:19] <hateball> just letting dpkg work its magic here...
[10:19] <hateball> come on little computer
[10:21] <cfaulk43> ok lordievader - thanks for the help, at least I have a rough idea of what I'm doing :)
[10:24] <hateball> BlackKatMike: hmmm, seems to work for me...
[10:25] <hateball> or maybe not
[10:25] <cfaulk43> Found it, lordievader - you have to update the line Prompt=lts to Promt=normal  in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[10:25] <cfaulk43> *Prompt=normal
[10:28] <hateball> BlackKatMike: I wonder if that's because it's a rather old flash (v25) in 16.04 package
[10:29] <BlackKatMike> hateball: if you go to http://get.adobe.com/it/flashplayer/about/ you should briefly see a bouncing cube animation made in Flash on top of the page (it swaps fith a fixed image ad after a few seconds). On the side of the text (above the table with Flash versions per platform) you should see a frame with the installed flash version.
[10:29] <hateball> yep
[10:29] <hateball> and I see I cant :p
[10:30] <hateball> It works in chromium with pepperflash, so lets see if a manual install in firefox will work
[10:30] <BlackKatMike> hateball: I have flash 27.0.0.130. It gets correctly listed in FF's plugin list.
[10:30] <hateball> oh!
[10:31] <hateball> I had 25 see, the adobe-flashplugin package wouldnt fetch anything newer
[10:31] <BlackKatMike> I used the flashplugin-installer package actually
[10:33] <BlackKatMike> It's the package that installs just a stub downloader script, then upon configuring runs it and downloads the actual Flash plugin (tar.gzipped maybe?) from Canonical's server.
[10:33] <hateball> yes
[10:34] <hateball> the adobe-flashplugin is supposed to do the same, but for chromium (pepperflash) as well
[10:34] <hateball> so you dont need two packages
[10:34] <hateball> anyhow, I tried some random flash game and it freezes firefox
[10:34] <hateball> same thing works just fine in chromium
[10:36] <hateball> soooooooo some sort of firefox regression then
[10:44] <BlackKatMike> Hmmm... I read that with FF56 Mozilla deprecated ALSA and supports Pulseaudio only. Don't know if that's a contributing factor, though.
[10:47] <hateball> I do have pulseaudio, but maybe libflashplayer.so speaks directly to ALSA or something
[10:48] <hateball> BlackKatMike: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1720908
[10:51] <BlackKatMike> ubottu: thank you very much, will follow that bug!
[10:52] <BlackKatMike> LOL talked to a bot :). Anyway, thank you hateball. Will follow that bug!
[10:53] <BlackKatMike> hateball: damn now I realized that the bot talked because of the link you posted! I'm doing too many things at once :)
[10:53] <BlackKatMike> Thank you again, bye!
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:14] <wojb> hello
[12:16] <wojb> is here anybody who likes help others kubuntu users? ;)
[12:17] <EvilClown> sure
[12:17] <EvilClown> I can try
[12:17] <BluesKaj> wojb, just tell us your issue and we'll try to help you
[12:17] <wojb> Great!
[12:17] <wojb> I am on ubuntu 16.04 now
[12:19] <wojb> and I want to use  Mouse Gesture Actions (I've been doing it on 14.04) but There is no "Mouse Gesture Action" option on the context menu on my system
[12:20] <wojb> I have enabled Guestures in Input actions Dameon
[12:20] <wojb> So the first question id is it the right place to ask the question? :)
[12:21] <wojb> and if yes, what may be the reason of it
[12:23] <lordievader> Are mousegestures supported under Plasma 5?
[12:24] <wojb> It is a question to  me?
[12:24] <lordievader> Thought support was thrown out.
[12:24] <lordievader> Yes, and in general.
[12:24] <lordievader> Oh, I see you enabled it somewhere, guess my info is wrong ;)
[12:25] <wojb> yes :)
[12:25] <wojb> And I see that there is some Konqueror Gestures defined in Custom Shortcuts  menu
[12:29] <hateball> wojb: if you enabled mouse actions *now*, did you restart your session to make sure the daemon is running?
[12:31] <wojb> I restarted my machine - yes
[12:42] <wojb> I must go now - anyway thank you for answers.
[12:42] <wojb> bye
[12:48] <BluesKaj> mouse gestures...never bothered with that
[12:49] <ForceRecon_> gooda mornin
[12:53] <BluesKaj> "Morning ForceRecon_
[15:20] <viewer|66161> In kubuntu OS i'm unable to connect to WiFi. Could u pls help me
[15:34] <johnpgarry> whois shameer
[15:39] <BluesKaj> john51, run /whois in the server textbox
[15:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:42] <johnpgarry> whois shameer
[15:43] <johnpgarry> whois john
[15:43] <BluesKaj> johnpgarry,, run /whois in the server textbox
[18:07] <sintre> well hello all if anybody is around
[18:08] <BluesKaj> sintre, yup, how can we help you?
[18:09] <sintre> seems a got of an audioproblem
[18:09] <sintre> with this new system er year old one
[18:10] <sintre> no sound from laptop speakers 'internal'
[18:10] <sintre> booted win10 and they work
[18:10] <sintre> so craching my head
[18:10] <sintre> scratching
[18:12] <sintre> everything is up to date
[18:12] <sintre> but using ts
[18:12] <BluesKaj> sintre, open  lasmixer in the konsole, scroll lrft to the automue ctl, use the down arrow to disable it
[18:12] <BluesKaj> alasmixer
[18:12] <BluesKaj> oops alsamixer
[18:14] <BluesKaj> my kb skills are worse than usual today
[18:16] <BluesKaj> sintre, scroll left to the automute ctl and use the down arrow key to disable it
[18:16] <BluesKaj> sorry agian , scroll right, not left
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ...bbiab ...need some fresh air
[18:22] <sintre> https://imgur.com/a/p37zY
[18:22] <sintre> so what do i disable again?
[18:34] <sintre> well tried every setting no go there atm
[18:40] <sintre> ok wierd settig change fixed it
[18:42] <sintre> https://imgur.com/a/6bBJX
[18:42] <sintre> changed the output to hmdi stero instead of surround which it auto defaulted too
[18:43] <sintre> output profile i should say
[18:44] <sintre> good use of an hour lol
[18:46] <sintre> ok not a full fix
[18:47] <sintre> shut down a audio /video playing window hen try to restart mute again
[18:47] <sintre> i just got to that audio configuraion page and choose any other profile and i get sound
[18:48] <sintre> anyways i'll toy with it later
[18:48] <sintre> have a good day all
[19:16] <reinaldo> Is there a way to send a "persistent" systray notification? I'm using "notify-send -t 0"(never expires) but isn't working as the notification disappear after 10 minutes. I'm using kubuntu 16.04 kde plasma 5.8.7