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 Hello Darryl and @TheUNK99
[02:27] <tgBot> <Darryl Allardice> Long live UbuntuTouch/ubports!
 lol
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 Can someone help me getting the right qtubuntu base for build qt 5.9 for vivid? I can't get around with the instructions of Matthew at this point.
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 @nfsprodriver have you tried pinging matthew on the ubports matrix room? uk timezone)
 Is there some problem with OpenStore? I cannot install sensorsstatus.. Install button does nothing
 Same behavior with few other apps too. Some apps I can install..
 ^wild guess, disk full?
 @YougoChats, It is clean install
 I can install bigger apps fine
 I downloaded app with webbrowser and installed it with UT tweak tool
 hmm. use UT Tweak to clear cache of Upen Store?
 Still not work
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 @samitormanen, is Brian Douglas in here?
 I don't think he is.
 @samitormanen see if you can find your bug here, or make a new report: https://github.com/UbuntuOpenStore/openstore-meta/issues
 @YougoChats, @sverzegnassi is though and may be able to help if he's around
 @per_sonne, I will take that as a compliment 🤗
 Visit my blog please​ guys  … 5 hal yang menandakan bahwa kamu sedang stres … https://rancakbanah.xyz/blog/5-hal-yang-menandakan-bahwa-kamu-sedang-stres/
 @Mushelpi, So first of all most people here will not be able to read Malay or Indonesian. Then please stop spamming or we need to kick you.
 Oke i am so sorry @Flohack so please dont kick me, I'll not to sent any link anymore
 True.. I just try to install media scope from the openstore and it is not working..
 not insalling..
[11:46] <tgBot> <Pedro Vicente> Is zenfone 3 compatible?
[12:17] <tgBot> <Pedro Vicente> I think it will be possible.
[12:17] <tgBot> <Pedro Vicente> We need to dig
 We'd love to support as many devices as possible. Unfortunately porting a new device takes a long time and there are only a few of us doing the work. More developers working on porting devices would mean more devices ported. This will particularly be true when the Halium Project is successful. … You can find our curently supported devices on https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
 @samitormanen, There is a problem in a client-app with redirected requests, likely due to some night coding of mine. It has never happened before since the client-app was fetching the packages directly, until the update to the OpenStore Web APIs we did last night. We'll try to fix this as soon as possible :)
 Ok. Thanks! Good to know.
 @sverzegnassi, Fixed it, now everything should be fine
 @sverzegnassi, Could it be that we present "important informations" in the store, fetching some status from a web service, to display downtime, or other stuff? That could be interesting feature
 Some of the info are already available here: https://status.uappexplorer.com/
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 hi together, has somebody running ubuntu touch on an android tablet / im looking for tablets which can be usable
 i found older supported devices / are they helpfull as a startpoint
 How do I switch keyboard layout on a physical keyboard?
 Connected via bluetooth to my Nexus 5?
 @vanyasem, There is a keyboard layout indicator where you could do it probably
 this keyboard has 3 modes: Windows, Apple and Android
 I guess I should give it a try with Android mode
 Fwd from nfsprodriver: Sorry to reask, but I stuck here: Anyone from the mozillahispano team or the yowsup team here being able to transcode py the js? We might fix media / group sending to make the app nearly fully usable again. I wish I could pin this post, but we're not a supergroup.
 @sugandhim, The BQ M10 is the only supported tablet but there has been some progress with Nexus 7. There will be more in future but will probably rely on success with the Halium project, so that will not be very soon
 Halium is working on the Nexus 7 and Plasma Mobile on top of Halium too (I think). Only Ubuntu Touch Isn't ready with the rootfs yet ...
 WHAT'S THE BEST MESSENGER FOR UBUNTU TOUCH? … TELEGRAM? … UMATRICKS? … WHATS UP? APP?? WHATEVER? … HERE'S THE LATEST UBUNTU TOUCH AUDIOCAST "SHOOTING THE MESSENGER" … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-audiocast-010-shooting-the-messenger-80
 shooting the messenger.  With wayne (outthere) and Joe (in here).   … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-audiocast-010-shooting-the-messenger-80
 thanks for the Pin, superbox!
 is a super box like a raspberry pi or something?
 @wayneoutthere, Is there a reason the post doesn't have a date?
 I'd like to know how old this is :/
 @Lorxu, don't know.  it's about a couple of days old
 probably because I was trying to make Odoo comply and it refused
 @Lorxu, date added. your wish is my command.
 oh we referenced you at least once in ... this one..?  or some audiocast. haha
 @wayneoutthere, Oh God
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/DUFYX0NL/file_947.webp
 we told them about how you secretly work for Microsoft and funnel all our secrets to them and that's why ubuntu ended up in windows
 (ok we didnt')
 reference was for the KDE link, i think.
 Ah
 UBports Installer need a password to flash UB on Nexus 5. Does somebody know witch PW?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0JENSNDj/file_949.jpg
 It's the 'sudo' password you use on your PC, IIRC
 PW of your Computer
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 I tryed, but nothing, it just put the device on fastboot mode, and nothing else
 @JeffiG, press start again
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/hYhBF6fJ/file_951.mp4
 @wayneoutthere, Is there a transcript? This is a full hour
 too bad.  no script for you!
 grab and go with RSS
 How will RSS fix that :P
 Transcript = text description
 it's there.  here it is: … This time Wayne (out there) and Joe (in here) talk about the current state of messenging applications on Ubuntu Touch and the other guys. They review specific applications and discuss potential pitfalls and ideals... Etc
 want more?? feel free to write it! :)
 plain text and I'll pop it up
 Oh fuck that, way too much work :P
 agree!
 that's why it's not there
 >80 … >can't do much with technology
 I don't know my grandma's age, but she's definitely over 50 and runs Kubuntu :P
 Sylvia, I'm 61 and run in my phone Ubuntu and in my laptops FreeBSD :-)
 I hope to still be good with computers when I reach that age :P
 @wayneoutthere, On this talk, someone talking about Telegram as favourite app: I wish I could use Matrix as my favourite app but I need my stickers
 re/ Matrix: 1+
 @Lorxu, +1
 on both
 "Family is the worst" Hahaha yeah...
 >tfw they're promoting Telegram for security despite Telegram's security being a joke
 lol, making people choose between talking to you by installing the same app or not... then people don't talk
 @Lorxu, that's why we said this is the evaluation to see if yo ucut the person out of your life or not
 @wayneoutthere has the power
 ? to do what?
 haha
 @wayneoutthere, Oh, I'm really good at cutting people out of my life, but generally by pissing them off accidentally :P
 @wayneoutthere, you're a woman, you can do anything
 ??
 @neothethird, no wait
 i'm a male-man
 i'm a hotmale
 @neothethird, I want to know more about this being able to do anything thing
 @wayneoutthere, you got the star
 @wayneoutthere, hotmale.com
 haha
 did you hear that episode?
 yeah
 lol
 joe denies he was involved
 didn't listen to the last one unfortunately. I moved and still don't have internet at my new place
 The problem of Telegram's encrypted chats is that their protocol is complete shit and doesn't support multi-device, there is a desktop Telegram client that does encrypted chats, but if you open one with someone you have to be lucky it opens on their right device
 Telegram should've done it more like Matrix, which does multidevice encrypted chat easily
 Oh, there is one app that's more insecure than every other one
 Wasn't Kik the one still not using SSL?
 @wayneoutthere listening and talking to you at the same time, wayne is taking over
 @Lorxu, yeah, that one is widely used for anonymous booty calls at my school :D
 especially fun on a non-encrypted network
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/3EjZENkb/file_953.jpg Is there a way to change the distance between the icons on the app scope? I want that the lower icons and not visible.
 The EFF secure messaging scorecard was really disappointing
 WhatsApp's crypto is mostly better than Telegram, they just don't notify of key changes by default, so it's extremely easy to just rotate keys and get the device to reencrypt
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 On the note of encrypted chats, Matrix supports encrypted group chats too
 How are they not talking Matrix
 Oh yeah Wire is neat
 OH FINALLY MATRIX
 @savetier, +1, would be great to set it the same distance as the N9
 (Photo, 480x854) https://irc.ubports.com/YbnnJvOz/file_955.jpg
 feels nicely spaced enough
 Surprised how much better ubports is looking compared to ubuntu touch
 Pff, I agree on the privacy discussion, but I just completely gave up on it myself the last half year or so
 On the audiocast
 Ashley Madison is a horrible example, those assholes deserved all they suffered and I'm glad to see suicides from that
 @Lorxu, jesus christ the last sentence
 The whole message is a single message :P
 But really, "privacy is important", sure, but adultery really does not fall under acceptable reasons to protect privacy
 I know it's an unpopular opinion but some people deserve to die
 Still having problems with my bluetooth mouse and (several) keyboards. Is there a way to easily diagnose what's going on with them? It's like they're clashing with one another. Tried two different keyboards and still the same.
 Singly, they work fine. Mouse OK. Keyboard OK. Use them both and the mouse works fine, but the keyboard barely does anything. Both show up in the Bluetooth settings as connected, but sometimes one will drop off for no reason.
 Sounds like your mouse is really hogging the bandwidth
 @YougoChats, Could be. I never really thought about that.
 what type is it? Does it run out of battery quickly?
 @YougoChats, It's a generic Chinese mouse. The battery life is OK with it.
 You might be able to log communication between bluetooth devices, but I'm not sure how, and what normal or bad behavior would look like
 something like logcat radio something something
 On my FP2, both mouse and keyboard work fine. Generic SilverCrest keyboard and Rapoo mouse
 I'll maybe try a different cheapo mouse. That'll give me two bluetooth keyboards and miceses  😄
 you have bluetoothctl if could help
 on the Nexus 4 we cannot have 2 bluetooths connexion and the wifi, except the 5Ghz
 @Ern_st, Hmm. Didn't know that. I'm using an M10 tablet though.
 it's an hardware bug Android user has it also
 @Lorxu, this is news!
 @Lorxu, it's an extreme example and many won't disagree with you.  sorry for the fail example as obviously 'they got what they deserve' many would say.  I however, take the position that all humans are sinners and not one is good.
 @Lorxu, correctly and legally speaking we all deserve to die. More on that on the side if anyone wants to hash it out ;)
 and! that's why we all need encryption! ;)
 A platform made to sin and break vows you made is a whole new level though
 you are correct.
 i don't disagree.
 but wickedness knows no boundaries
 I'd loved to have seen some of them kill themselves in desperation when they finally had to take responsibility for their actions
 hey, i think they created an off topic chat for us... we're going to get the boot any seconed
 I knew it happened, I'd love to have seen it first hand
 I hereby boot you and me into a PM
 Ehh, true I guess
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 @wayneoutthere, Well, that escalated quickly.
 @per_sonne, It happens... I guess
 @wayneoutthere, TL;DR We all deserve to die, which is why we need encryption
 Valar morghulis.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, i like it.  that has a good ring
 it's a quotable moment
 Valar Dohaeris: all code must serve, Your Grace.
 (Sticker, 512x335) https://irc.ubports.com/bIKXg190/file_956.webp
[22:27] <xorpad> I downloaded the kernel but it's not building, is the a snapshot or tag I should use to make sure my build setup is correct before I start fixing compile-time bugs?
[22:27] <xorpad> hammerhead kernel from github
[22:28] <xorpad> also, I compiled htop for nexus 5: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-mfTuH1QCVhd2gxa1VCU0VlUFE
[22:29] <xorpad> if anyone wants it
 @xorpad, you need to compile in a android tree
 it does not compile out of tree
[22:29] <xorpad> I see
[22:29] <xorpad> Well I'll have to fix that
 that's mostly due to wierd dtb
 you need to use dtbtool, but since that's build by the android source, it makes sense to make the kernel in tree. but you could use precompiled dtbtool
[22:32] <xorpad> We shouldn't be dependant on android to build, imo
 this might give you an idea on how to handle the dtb out of tree https://github.com/ubports/android_device_oneplus_bacon-1/blob/ubp-5.1/mkbootimg.mk
[22:32] <xorpad> thanks mariogrip
[22:33] <xorpad> I got past the error I was having... on to the next one
[22:33] <xorpad> :D
[22:33] <xorpad> once I can get it built and boots, it's time to work on the power consumption, which is really high compared to where it could be
[22:34] <xorpad> once i get voltage and frequency scaling set up it should go from 1 day battery life on standby to 5+ days
 @xorpad, yeah, i belive we could also short down on some android services running in the backgtround, most of them we dont need
 @xorpad, yeah that also will help alot
[22:36] <xorpad> yeah it does... When i added it to my android kernel, it made the battery life 900% of what it was with stock kernel
[22:36] <xorpad> not including screen time, because kernel can;t make screen eat less juice
[22:37] <xorpad> anyways, I'm gonna walk my dog since compiling seems to be going smoothly, I expect i'll return to some errors or something needing work
[22:37] <xorpad> hehe
 yeah, you can also take some hints from the oneplus one's kernel, that is pretty optimized
 :)
[22:38] <xorpad> I was planning to merge my android code, which is a modded version of franco kernels freq/voltage scaling module, into this kernel
 ah! sounds good! :)
[22:39] <xorpad> yeah:D
[22:39] <xorpad> anyways, dog walking time
 I'll jump to bed, europe timezone here
[22:39] <xorpad> cool sleep well
 @mariogrip, I was gonna do a pun but it just reads bad without empathis
 @PhoenixLandPirate, well excuse my non native english lol :P
 @mariogrip, Yeah, its pretty bad, a miricle anyone can understand you tbh
 @PhoenixLandPirate, now it's just bullying
 :P
 My English is worse and I native speaker
 (Photo, 500x578) https://irc.ubports.com/NQg0sciR/file_958.jpg
 How would I mock up an interface for Ubuntu Touch
[23:19] <tgBot> TheOriginalSaiyajin was added by: TheOriginalSaiyajin
 Where iz Simon Kekley
 @TheOriginalSaiyajin, ;_;
 @tsimonq2, Gib Ubuntu 18.04
[23:35] <xorpad> now to test the compiled kernel, gotta see how you guys normally package/flash the kernel
[23:35] <xorpad> where's the build script again?
 For testing purposes, `fastboot flash` is the preferred method
[23:36] <xorpad> yeah but I need to see what difference you have comapared to normal android boot.img
 The initramfs is different... that's it.
[23:37] <xorpad> different how?
 It's just a different initramfs than you'd have in Android.
[23:37] <xorpad> Oh, okay
 If you'd like to inspect an image, you can try http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/
 And download   device_hammerhead_devel.tar.xz
 There's something about system-image and the server that brings that together with the rootfs, though I'm not sure what it is.
 magic, I suppose.
 And I think @mariogrip went to sleep
[23:39] <xorpad> okay, thanks