[11:16] ahoneybun: some cc meetings are private, but usually public in #ubuntu-meeting. [13:19] Alright thanks popey and jose [16:09] popey: do we have a UCC meeting this thursday? [16:09] I am not on the CC :) [16:10] mm well the meeting logs are kinda light lately so no idea if someone is planning a meeting soon or what [16:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda has the details [16:10] so yeah, 1st thursday looks good [16:10] depends who is going to come tho lol [16:11] well, the new cc should :) [16:11] *should* [16:12] maybe you could fire a mail at the cc and ensure they do :) [16:13] good idea lol [16:18] <- ideas man [16:32] (or as Chris Fisher likes to put it, "Canonical's Secret Weapon" :P) [19:41] popey, where have you imagined flavors would appear at the new https://community.ubuntu.com/ ? [20:19] knome: great question. how do you think flavours would want to use it? I anticipated that some already have their own tools. [20:20] i was thinking from xubuntu's point of view and i think we would at least want to show up there [20:20] probably not use it very actively [20:20] or at least - not as the main platform for anything [20:21] Right, that's what I thought. I figured some might want to use it but the branding might put people off, because it's not flavour specific branding [20:22] but, as a project resource, I'm super keen to have anyone in the wider Ubuntu family use it in whatever way they want, within the overall remit of the site [20:22] (i.e. not tech support) [20:22] of course [20:22] did discourse support subcategories again? [20:22] yes [20:22] look in the documentation category [20:22] there are two (hidden from the main page) sub-categories in there [20:23] so maybe a "Flavors" category and subcategories for each [20:23] Yeah, maybe opt in, I wouldn't want to create a bunch of categories which end up with zero content [20:23] absolutely [20:23] But if you have some ideas for what might be posted there, I ca [20:24] *can set them up [20:24] happy to set you guys as moderators of the area etc [20:24] i'll take this to the team devel list, but i think we could use it for some testing calls and other (probably more one-off) calls/announcements we want to spread as much as possible [20:25] like a call for submissions to a wallpaper contest for the next LTS [20:26] Yeah, we're gonna do a similar wallpaper thing for ubuntu i think [20:26] we have an "announcements" category, we could put flavour announcements in there too? [20:26] up to you, let me know what you guys/girls want and we'll accomodate it [20:27] yeah, i'm not sure [20:27] The good thing is it's super flexible so we can move posts around later [20:27] if the flavors have their own (sub)categories, it might just be confusing to have the announcements elsewhere [20:27] agreed [20:28] the flipside being it's nice having one place for all announcements [20:28] (although it's a complete lie that it's one place, of course, there's the social networks, ubuntu-announce mailing list, fridge, etc) [20:29] yep [20:31] Really like how it looks so far popey :D [20:31] <3 [20:31] Suggestions for improvements always welcome. [20:33] popey: So it seems like on the Ubuntu MATE one at least I am part of "teams" which show up as badges when I post something [20:33] For example, I'm in an Ubuntu Members team (I think). [20:34] Could we maybe try something like that out? [20:34] (maybe have it authenticate with Launchpad teams or something to ease maintenance) [20:34] We did discuss this with IS, and it's certainly an interesting thing that we could potentially do [20:34] popey: One more thing, is it ready enough to link in the topic here? :)) [20:35] Cool cool [20:35] but we had to get the site up quickly, so didn't have time during the initial deployment [20:35] totally! :D [20:35] GO GO TOPIC! === tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Welcome to the IRC Home of the Ubuntu Community Team | Visit our new Ubuntu Community Hub, the place to get the latest happenings in the Ubuntu Community: https://community.ubuntu.com/ | Home page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity | This channel is LOGGED: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | No Spoilers [20:35] Bam [20:36] Lil' marketing bit there :3 [20:39] popey: One thing I've been working on is helping reduce the number of exploitable CVEs in Universe packages [20:40] I've always just said something on my Twitter when an update is released [20:40] popey: Would that be something I can put under Announcements? [20:41] If it's tweet sized, then maybe it's ideal for twitter :) [20:41] Not sure we want to replicate things like artful-changes [20:42] Well the community CVE updates are somewhat low volume [20:42] A couple a week, maybe [20:42] But the point is to let people know that updates have been done to keep their systems secure. [20:42] * tsimonq2 shrugs [20:42] Yeah, they have value, totally [20:42] Wondering where the best place for that is, and in what form. [20:43] Because ideally the goal is to help onboard more contributors to help. [20:44] It's a good (and easy) way to get involved with packaging, it's nothing complex (usually), just patch the upstream source and test it in a PPA to make sure it works. :) [20:44] Here's the list that I've (sort of) been following: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html [20:45] You know what would be cool. Is a piece by piece guide to getting started helping fix these things [20:45] not a 22 page packaging guide ;D [20:46] heh well the packaging guide has its uses ;) [20:46] But I agree. [20:46] Something super easy and quick someone can do. [20:46] * acheronuk nods [20:47] I'd love to see a simple guide for SRUs too - I mean, testing them [20:47] that's a super simple way to help. Install this package - make sure the thing reported no longer happens - mark it fixed [20:47] And maybe once they've done the simple packaging tasks over and over and over again, they'll want to move on to something more complex. ;) [20:47] popey: Hm, I thought we already had one of those? [20:47] We do? [20:48] Bam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification [20:48] Maybe a bit outdated, though. [20:48] I reckon most people don't know that page exists (as with much of the wiki) [20:49] popey: ooh that's something else I've been thinking about [20:49] Once the outstanding MediaWiki CVEs are dealt with... I think we actually need to focus on having a good, working wiki... [20:49] (imho) [20:49] That would be fun. I'd love to help migrate. [20:50] Here's the thing, we had this discussion at one point, did we not? [20:50] And then (I think) Jorge Castro offered to give people a tarball of all the data to run through a conversion script. [20:50] Yup, but it fell on the floor due to lack of time [20:50] I have it [20:50] Nobody stepped up to make that happen. [20:50] yeah. it's a big job [20:51] Now, the next question is, do we *really* want to move to moin [20:51] discourse has the concept of wiki posts :) [20:51] (all the documentation category are wiki posts) [20:51] (the content I copy/pasta'ed over from the old static site is all there and editable) [20:52] Ooh, that might be workable... would be nice to have that integrated with the new Community Hub :D [20:52] Be interesting to build a list of most visited and most edited pages [20:52] to see what coverage we need [20:52] I imagine converting moin to markdown wouldn't be _that_ hard [20:52] famous last words :D [20:52] Exactly, famous last words... :P [20:54] popey: Small(ish) nitpick, the Ubuntu logo used in the favicon isn't transparent, I've just Telegramed you what I mean by that [20:54] It would certainly bug someone with a dark browser theme... [20:55] yeah, lemme see how to fix that [20:55] usn.ubuntu.com does that as well, I just need to figure out who/what to poke to fix it :P [20:56] AaaaaHA, nvm, found the GitHub page :P [21:01] the favicon doesn't have a transparent bg either. [21:01] oh [21:01] wait [21:01] yeah :) [21:02] going to bed, good night [21:02] o/ [21:03] o/ knome [21:04] https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/49a1a858-favicon-32x32.png [21:04] is that transparent for you? [21:05] because that's the currently set favicon [21:05] No [21:06] it is in eog [21:07] Hmmmm, interesting... [21:09] and that's the same one that's on ubuntu.com [21:09] O__o [21:09] Ahh [21:09] Except, ubuntu.com's favicon isn't transparent either [21:09] hah, okay [21:10] get me the url of another one that is good [21:12] popey: Every one of these on here ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IconsPage [21:13] wow, there's some crusty old icons on there! [21:13] But the Ubuntu one on there is actually good [21:13] :P [21:13] iconCircle32.png ? [21:13] This one, specifically: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IconsPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iconCircle48.png [21:13] Or that too :) [21:14] ok, set that as favicon, look right now? [21:14] (I see no favicon in my browser) [21:15] looks good in my bookmarks.. [21:16] First load takes a bit... (cleared my cache) [21:16] Hmm, still not good... [21:17] But wait a minute it's better in Qupzilla [21:17] * tsimonq2 blames Firefox for this one :P [21:17] popey: All better :D [21:17] hehe [21:17] \o/ [21:17] thanks! [21:17] :D [21:19] popey: I have to go get some stuff done, but this is looking great so far! [21:19] o/