[06:04] good morning [06:05] hi didrocks [06:05] good morning :-) [06:05] I was actually waiting for you :-D [06:06] hey Trevinho! really? ;) [06:06] yeah... [06:06] didrocks: as, you might have a look at branches in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2967 [06:07] there are also two branches that andyrock approved and tested, but he can't global approve [06:08] Trevinho: will have a look today [06:08] didrocks: ok, no rush... just I wanted to mention before I was going to bed :) [06:08] Trevinho: sure! Have a good night :) [06:09] thanks [06:09] * Trevinho loved the Bali timezone more :-P [06:24] morning [06:28] salut jibel [06:31] salut didrocks , bien rentré? [07:12] jibel: oui oui, aucun problème, et toi ? [07:33] didrocks, perfect, arrived 1h15 early. I was a very short flight [07:33] s/I/It/ [07:34] nice! [07:34] mine was delayed (boarding 40 minutes in JFK, then, waiting an hour for taking off) [07:35] but we arrived only 20 minutes late, which was ok for connecting anyway [08:02] morning all [08:04] sup [08:04] hi Laney [08:06] hey willcooke, Laney [08:06] hi didrocks, how goes? [08:07] good morning desktopers [08:07] hey didrocks willcookel [08:07] did everybody had a good trip back and recovered? [08:07] hi seb128l, how was your day yesterday? Restful? [08:07] * seb128 failed to connect to that channel today when he started irc because of the +r mode [08:07] same here [08:07] willcooke: good, still a little bit tired, but getting there :) [08:08] willcooke, it was good, not so much rest though, just catchup with busy life mostly... :-) [08:09] we had all been travelling for a week so quite some unpacking, tiding up, etc [08:09] * Laney nods didrocks willcooke seb128 [08:09] just as a fyi Olivier is off today, Catalonia protests = no school so he has to take care of his daugther [08:09] hey Laney, how are you? [08:11] ahh I was hoping he was going to be on strike [08:11] seb128: good! [08:11] umm there's a weird noise coming from the bathroom [08:11] brb [08:12] * Laney gets eaten by the drain monster [08:12] ... it's next door scraping on their side of the wall in a creepy way ... [08:15] lock the door! [08:44] andyrock: hey, once you are online, do you mind answering on https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/95? Feedback asked 4 days ago, you should really fix your github emails ping! (I don't really want to merge/sponsor it before upstream +1 on it) [08:50] didrocks, 4 days which included rally wrapup, w.e and post sprint monday ... still agreed that it would be nice to reply though, just putting things in perspective a bit :) [08:51] andyrock, but yeah, please reply today :) [08:54] well, it's just the second time I'm asking to track on this one and answer (and some others) [08:54] I think fixing his github notifications is a must, as already explained last week [08:54] Hm. the appindicator extension seems to keep disappearing for me [08:55] popey, report a bug with logs? [08:56] right, where? upstream git or launchpad? [08:59] launchpad, though you might want to report it against the upstream on as well since we don't really change it [09:01] * didrocks found another theme issue to fix, I wonder if this is an indirect related issue to what jibel saw on Friday [09:12] ok, thanks seb128 [09:12] thx [09:19] Am I the only one for who the nautilus copy progress bar in the dock doesn't refresh if you close the nautilus windows during the copy? [09:20] I didn't notice that but I'm not sure I close the window usually [09:20] I'm currently on my xenial partition but I try later when I reboot [09:21] I had cases where it stayed a bit longer but the in-win indicator does the same so it's a nautilus issue [09:22] could be that it doesn't send refresh signals if closed, but I don't see the in-win indicator jumping from one place to another when opening it (can maybe refresh too fast) [09:28] does the launcher refresh immediatly when you reopen the view? [09:32] yes [09:33] it's probably something like that then, and probably not easy to fix [09:36] didrocks: did you see there's a glib stable release up for merge? [09:36] (just saw the queue entry land) [09:37] Laney: I probably will do another glib upload once I debug the desktop file translation issue we have (I guess I'll tackle this tomorrow), I'll merge it as the same time [09:43] ok, let's hold for then then [09:43] it probably won't go through proposed-migration by tomorrow anyway [09:44] hum, I have other uploads waiting on this glib fix to go through thus [09:44] k, I'm out for some errands and lunch, bbiab [09:45] and time to debug/fix maybe it will be thursday, I hoped to get that one in in between as I tested it for a day already [09:45] but if you don't mind having more uploads by the end of the week, that's ok to me (migration scripts and default ubuntu settings fix) [09:58] looks like I'm also experiencing bug 1719192 [09:58] bug 1719192 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "Some Top Icons Disappear After Screen Locks - 17.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719192 [10:05] popey, https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/96 seems like a duplicate of https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/75 ? [10:06] ooh, could be yeah, thanks [10:06] I searched but didnt find that one [11:14] chrisccoulson, I assume this will be required for tb52.4 on artful https://paste.debian.net/plain/988838/ [11:15] ricotz, ah, yeah, I forgot about that one [11:15] thanks [11:16] chrisccoulson, also the arm64 fix for firefox doesnt look good imo [11:16] it is only required on trusty -- https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-beta.trusty/view/head:/debian/patches/build-arm64-skia.patch [11:17] chrisccoulson, you can imagine that there is all kind of things I wanted to ask you over the past couple of weeks [11:17] we shouldn't be shipping that - it doesn't really have any chance of landing upstream [11:18] chrisccoulson, I specifically talking about your patch here [11:22] chrisccoulson, "the desktop team are going to be gradually taking firefox", could you elaborate? [11:37] ricotz, yes, olivier will be gradually taking it. And hopefully foundations will take rust [11:40] chrisccoulson, do you have moment for a PM? [12:25] chrisccoulson: what do you think of LP: #1720422 ? does it help? [12:25] Launchpad bug 1720422 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Remove thunderbird from s390x" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720422 [12:34] seb128: hi, what do you think we should do for artful for LP: #1719322 now? [12:34] Launchpad bug 1719322 in evince (Ubuntu) "Remove patch to remove headerbar" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719322 [13:15] hello, there are Firefox 52 ESR packages to test in https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [13:27] jbicha, hey, I would revert, we discussed freezes a bit in N-Y and there was agreement that those are not well enforced nowadays and that people take more liberty of ignoring them which start making the process pointless [13:28] so I think it's time we start being more strict again [13:28] seb128: revert just file-roller? [13:28] UI change or feature without an approved request should be reverted imho [13:28] jbicha, let me read the wiki, is UIF about the archive or about flavors only? [13:29] seems default installation only [13:29] default applications [13:29] my personal opinion is that UIF is about documentation and translations so unseeded packages shouldn't be affected [13:29] so yeah, I guess just file-roller is enough [13:30] ok, that's fine. I felt bad about the file-roller change after I uploaded. That's why I stopped before changing eog & evince [13:30] though those changes are border line feature changes [13:30] and ffe is about the archive, no default install [13:30] didrocks: seb128 the issue with my github notification emails is not easy to solve :D [13:30] andyrock, hey! what is it? [13:30] jbicha, thanks [13:31] I get the email but then gmail deletes it and I cannot see any filter than can cause it [13:31] and "good morning!" [13:31] andyrock, it's in the trash? gmail doesn't give you indication of why? [13:31] maybe set in spam? [13:31] if it's on any github comment easy to test, disable all filters and do a trivial change [13:31] need to change location, brb [13:31] I only get notification emails from github sometimes, I have to manually visit http://github.com/notifications so I don't miss stuff [13:32] seb128 not in trash not in spam I get the notification on my phone for one second, than the notification disappears [13:57] what's that weird smell? [13:57] oh, that weird smell is me [13:57] :( [14:01] bah, I really need to fix my irc client to identify on start, failed to connect to -desktop again [14:01] even that isn't enough, as for me, ident answer is after autojoin [14:02] it's probably ok to take the mode off now [14:03] but that identify on connect is supposed to be for this case [14:04] * Laney has sasl set up [14:05] nope, I did that for OFTC but not freenode, for freenode I have laney:password in the server password [14:07] Laney: hey, shall I file a bug report against gdm3 about reverting my workaround? I have tested the new nvidia driver (which I haven't uploaded yet), and it's all good [14:07] andyrock: is there a LP bug for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/788268 ? [14:07] Gnome bug 788268 in xsettings "Windows not scaled on Ubuntu 17.10 using "Ubuntu Xorg" session." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [14:08] tseliot: maybe ping me when it's in archive and I'll do it [14:08] jbicha, bug #1720150 [14:08] bug 1720150 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Windows not scaled in hidpi setups using "Ubuntu Xorg" session." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720150 [14:09] Laney: ok, thanks [14:09] jbicha, you can https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/gnome-bugs/nnn to find the reverse bug [14:09] cool launchpad hack [14:09] :-) [14:09] wow, that's magic [14:11] I've an alias/keyword on that for years, it's handy :-) [14:14] PSA: The new community hub is live: https://community.ubuntu.com [14:15] nice [14:15] Looks good [14:16] great :) [14:16] popey: should we retry a mock blog post ? [14:16] Not sure it needs a mock one, why not a real one? :D [14:16] popey: the issue is if we publish a real one and it doesn't work… no comment for people [14:17] and if we do a mock one 5 mins after site launch, all eyeballs see a mock post [14:17] which looks messy :) [14:17] maybe tomorrow? [14:17] fine for tomorrow :) [14:17] or at 3am :D [14:17] popey: here is my ssh key to publish and try it thus :p [14:18] didrocks: i ssh'ed in but couldn't navigate all the baguettes and croissants! [14:18] I can ensure you wouldn't be able to find any « croissant au chocolat » here :) [14:18] Saw that coming :) [14:19] héhé [14:20] jbicha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1720150 [14:20] Ubuntu bug 1720150 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Windows not scaled in hidpi setups using "Ubuntu Xorg" session." [High,In progress] [14:20] thanks [14:21] seb128: could you review LP: #1719462 ? will that change break translations? [14:21] Launchpad bug 1719462 in Ubuntu Translations "[Translation] "Left" and "Right" must be translated differently in different contexts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719462 [14:26] jbicha, I believe it will yes [14:26] there is no fallback to the string without context since that would be wrong [14:26] fail [14:26] :-/ [14:27] so do we need a UIFe for LP: #1719462 or is emailing the translators list ok? [14:27] Launchpad bug 1719462 in Ubuntu Translations "[Translation] "Left" and "Right" must be translated differently in different contexts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719462 [14:28] jbicha, you need to stay away from doing it I would say [14:28] well it's tricky, if you do it now you risk to have that string not translated in most locales [14:28] depends how reactive translators are [14:29] to weight against a string looking weird in russian [14:29] ok, I can revert my change and it'll be fixed for 18.04 LTS instead [14:29] I would suggest to do that [14:56] Hi, anyone else getting hashsum missmatches from apt update for zesty universe translations? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25667357/ or know where to ask/report? [15:04] magic, seems to have resolved itself now :-) [15:07] ahayzen, that's weird :) [15:07] hey guys [15:19] Trevinho: hey! I did your review, small requests on them :) [15:20] didrocks: oh I didn't see the email, now I did :-D [15:24] Lots of people out for the meeting today, and not many emailed reports, so I think it will be a quick one [15:29] :) [15:29] quick is good [15:29] I've got a couple questions to discuss [15:30] ding ding ding [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 [15:30] |o| [15:30] Meeting started Tue Oct 3 15:30:37 2017 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: [15:30] o/ [15:30] o/ [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber (out?), kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN (out), seb128, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:30] o/ [15:31] hola! [15:31] o/ [15:32] Let's get started.. [15:32] But, before we do, an announcement... at the end of the meeting we're going to do a quick scan through the rls-aa-incoming bugs and see if there is anything which needs urgent attention and to make sure the bugs are getting looked at. [15:33] But first, #topic andyrock [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: andyrock [15:33] # Ubuntu Rally last week [15:33] # Setting up jhbuild to build the gnome stack. [15:33] # Fix scaling in appIndicator extension for pixbuf icons. [15:33] # Windows not scaled in hidpi setups using "Ubuntu Xorg" session. [15:33] # gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in st_theme_node_reduce_border_radius() from st_theme_node_paint_borders() from st_theme_node_paint(). [15:33] # Some work on "System goes to sleep with external monitor and lid closed after login.". Not yet fixed as I don't have a multimonitor with me right now. [15:33] # Working on fixing the way the osk is activated in gnome-shell on touch events. [15:33] ops too fast :D [15:33] I think it worked [15:33] :) [15:33] thanks andyrock [15:33] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:33] hey [15:33] nothing to share, have been out last week [15:34] thanks dgadomski [15:34] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: didrocks [15:34] Since last meeting (2 weeks ago?): [15:34] * Publish about dash transparency: https://didrocks.fr/2017/09/20/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-13/ and as usual, handle comments and feedbacks. [15:34] * Discussed with g-g-c upstream about some enhancements for ubuntu dock panel and most of those are now implemented (better layout, multiple screen detections…) and look with seb128 about white background for better readability. [15:34] * Add advanced printer button in g-c-c to trigger system-config-printer. [15:34] * Fix gnome-software to show up ubuntu software icon on xorg session. [15:34] * Spent some time looking and adding bugs to -incoming. [15:34] * Discussed with GNOME designers on shortcuts like (shutdown) after a patch introduced by system76. [15:34] * Worked on HUB integration beta with blog post to comments to collect feedback and traffic. [15:34] * Google Code-in 2017 desktop list tasks. [15:34] * Tease and work on plan for our next theming strategy. [15:34] * Fix some theme issues like better button discovery in headerbar, checkbox in the Shell… [15:34] * Released badges and progress bar in Dock and blog about it: https://didrocks.fr/2017/09/25/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-14/, reseed thunderbird support thus. Using those upload to cherry-pick other fixes and cleaning shorcuts list. [15:34] * Dig into existing GNOME Shell tests and see what we can do to run them with jibel, build a test framework around them. [15:34] * Test and uploaded a fix for french in gnome-calculator. [15:34] * Purge more s390x desktop packages as not leaf dependencies have been removed first and causing FTBFS and other random Archive Admin requests. [15:34] . [15:34] thanks didrocks [15:35] skipping duflu [15:35] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: jbicha [15:35] • Tweaks 3.26.1 release to fix some regressions [15:35] • Reviewed and merged GunnarHj's im seed changes (replacing fcitx with ibus) [15:35] • Filled in Desktop section of 17.10 Beta release notes [15:35] • Made ubuntu-gnome-desktop transitional depending on ubuntu-desktop [15:35] • Created vanilla-gnome-desktop for those who really liked Ubuntu GNOME [15:35] • Mentored ventrical and sponsored his work to fix some Unity 17.10 issues [15:35] • Discussed big-endian mozjs problem (this issue is blocking Debian unstable from updating GNOME Shell to 3.26) [15:35] • Dropped xterm and xdiagnose from default install [15:35] • Started packaging GNOME 3.26.1 [15:35] • I had some trouble with imagemagick LP: #1717951 do we want to discuss after the meeting? [15:35] Launchpad bug 1717951 in imagemagick (Ubuntu) "UIFe: Drop imagemagick-display from the default install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717951 [15:35] eof [15:35] thanks jbicha [15:35] want to leave your other topics for the end? [15:36] jbicha, +1 to discuss imagemagick [15:36] at end/after meeting is fine imho [15:36] kk [15:36] yes [15:36] skipping jamesh [15:36] #topic jibel / heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: jibel / heber [15:36] Ubuntu rally QA highlights: [15:36] KPIs: [15:36] Showed current KPIs in grafana dashboard [15:36] Ideas for new KPIs, example: SRUs (e.g. How long things are waiting in proposed), ISO Size, Boot Speed, Memory Usage [15:36] Make KPIs public [15:36] Add a KPI review to the weekly meeting [15:36] IRC bot to advise on KPI failures [15:36] IRC bot to say when an ISO fails to get promoted [15:36] Gnome-shell-extensions: [15:36] Discussion about creating an integration suite for gnome-shell-extensions: [15:36] JS tests scripts [15:36] D-bus service [15:37] External tests runner [15:37] This week working on: [15:37] Design D-bus interface for gnome-shell-extensions integration tests [15:37] Analyse red ubiquity jobs [15:37] Fix problems with VMs in venonat server [15:37] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: kenvandine [15:37] * Helped elementary guys create a runtime platform snap and snap their first application [15:37] * Created a build snap for elementary sdk, which will be used in stead of build -packages for building elementary apps. Not yet tested, once we sort out how this works I need to do the same for GNOME. [15:37] * Discovered the new build-attributes in snapcraft that allows us to exclude system libraries from our snaps more easily [15:37] * Put our snaps on a diet! Our snaps are now significantly smaller thanks to excluding the system libraries. [15:37] * 13 new snaps last week [15:37] * Created a wiki page for our snaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GNOMESnaps [15:37] * Working on the Ubuntu Migration to GNOME doc [15:37] EOF [15:37] thanks kenvandine [15:37] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: Laney [15:38] • Went to the Ubuntu Rally in NYC [15:38] ∘ Worked with wgrant on a new cloud region for arm64 / s390x testing, found some problems with the setup that are being worked through. [15:38] ∘ Discussed release team processes with the members who were there. [15:38] ∘ Took advantage of jadahl to learn more about monkeypatching in the looking glass, and to fix some random bugs. [15:38] ∘ Triaged the list of rls-aa-incoming bugs in person. [15:38] ∘ Helped out with defining the 18.04 work list. [15:38] ∘ Some pair debugging of the systemd/armhf failure with x_nox. [15:38] ∘ Helped s_il2100 out with his first serious bit of release managing (well done!) [15:38] ∘ Tested + released NM 1.8.4. [15:38] ∘ Pizza, steak, burger. [15:38] • Been doing release team reviews (queue + FFe). [15:38] • Helped out a bit with gnome-software 3.26.1 release upstream - cherry-picked some patches & wrote release notes, then hughsie turned up and pushed the tarball. [15:38] 💌 [15:39] thanks Laney [15:39] skipping osomon [15:39] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: seb128 [15:39] * travelled to N-Y [15:39] * had quite some discussions with different people here about random topics (didn't take enough notes to list them here, that wouldn't be too useful anyway) [15:39] * looked at some theme issues with Didier (g-c-c lists bg, action button colors) [15:39] * debugged some ubiquity issues (layout not applying, start sound not playing, orca not starting) [15:39] * reviewed trellos board and milestoned bugs with the team [15:39] * triaged recent reports on launchpad [15:39] probably others bugs and debugging I didn't list there [15:39] [15:39] thanks seb128 [15:39] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: tkamppeter [15:40] Hey tkamppeter, are you here? [15:40] yes [15:40] - Ubuntu Rally: [15:40] o Met Gerry Boland to coordiante integration of print dialog work, as in [15:40] the LTS we will not get beyond Qt 5.9, he suggests to create a separate [15:40] package with the new Qt print dialog [15:40] o Talked with Olivier about the (upstream-accepted) LibreOffice print dialog [15:40] patch. [15:40] o Met several of the Snap guys and got some help on the CUPS Snap. Next [15:40] problem is Avahi: [15:40] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapping-cups-printing-stack-avahi-support-system-users-groups/1502/16?u=till.kamppeter [15:40] Printer driver plug-in support is covered by this bug: [15:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1655125 [15:40] Ubuntu bug 1655125 in snapd "Missing interface: content sharing in the other direction" [Undecided,Triaged] [15:40] o Talked with several people about driverless printing. [15:40] - cups-filters: Released 1.17.8 with a bug fix in foomatic-rip and packaged [15:40] this for Artful [15:40] - OpenPrinting: Started to move all OpenPrinting projects to GitHub: [15:40] https://github.com/OpenPrinting [15:40] - Common Print Dialog Backends (CPDB): Started new OpenPrinting project for [15:40] all the GUI-toolkit-independent parts of print dialog work of this year's [15:40] Google Summer of Code: [15:40] o cpdb-libs: Libraries to implement the D-Bus interface between print dialog [15:40] and backends [15:40] o cpdb-backend-cups: CUPS/IPP backend [15:41] o cpdb-backend-gcp: Google Cloud Print backend [15:41] The GIT repositories are available on the OpenPrinting GitHub. [15:41] - Common Print Dialog Backends (CPDB): Suggested to do to additional pieces: [15:41] o "Adaptor" backend for current (old) GTK print dialog which connects to the [15:41] new CPDB backends, for the time being until the new GTK print dialog will [15:41] get released (like Ubuntu 18.04). [15:41] o "Print to File" CPDB backend to allow to save the output to a PDF file. [15:41] Nilanjana Lodh, who did the libraries and CUPS backend in GSoC will most [15:41] probably work on this. [15:41] - Google Summer of Code 2018: 7 project ideas already lined up. Most of the [15:41] students are still available for next GSoC and we will ask them to work for [15:41] us again. We will also start to recruit in December. [15:41] - Bugs. [15:41] thanks tkamppeter :) [15:41] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: Trevinho [15:42] · Fixed landing of unity7 stack on artful and did the landing [15:42] · Fixed mutter to get proper matching of snapped gnome applications [15:42] · Continued the work on fractional scaling with Jonas, targetting various annoyances [15:42] · Did the work to port ubuntu settings saved in gnome to our schemas [15:42] · Eat a lot of American food [15:42] · Took selfies with the team [15:42] <3 [15:42] heh [15:42] thanks Trevinho [15:42] skipping robert_ancell [15:42] #topic rls-aa-incoming review === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-10-03 | Current topic: rls-aa-incoming review [15:43] You forgot something: Drink a lot of Espresso. [15:43] Laney, could you take us through it? [15:43] UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOK [15:43] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html [15:44] so question for each one is [15:44] accept or not, and if so, assign to who? [15:44] the DHCP thingy is not for our team, but the other three at the top are I think [15:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lshw/+bug/1720624 [15:44] Ubuntu bug 1720624 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 blank CD or audio CD not detected" [Undecided,New] [15:44] I don't think the first one (g-s) is important enough to be on the list [15:45] jbicha, ^you tagged it? [15:45] (also, seb tried to fix the first one and it's not trivial) [15:45] can we do them in order please [15:45] well, the order that I'm giving them : [15:45] :P [15:45] That does appear to be the first one [15:45] seb128: if the actions don't work, we could disable them from the .desktop [15:45] Laney, "gnome-screenshot Actions don't work in default Ubuntu 17.10 session" is first here [15:46] :/ [15:46] I already gave one, but ok. [15:46] Laney, sorry, go ahead with your order [15:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1720262 [15:46] that's fine [15:46] Ubuntu bug 1720262 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-screenshot Actions don't work in default Ubuntu 17.10 session" [Low,New] [15:46] I would suggest we remove the extra actions from desktop file [15:47] better than a non working action [15:47] jbicha, if you wish, I don't think many users are going to pin that icon to the launcher and right click on it in practice [15:47] (for this cycle) [15:47] but a small improvement is still welcome and it's a cheap change [15:47] jbicha, would be worth upstreaming the issue still [15:47] who wants to be assigned it then? [15:48] ok, I'll do those 2 tasks (upstream and remove non-working actions) [15:48] k, nominate, assign, remove tag please, thanks! [15:48] jbicha, thanks [15:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1720829 [15:49] Ubuntu bug 1720829 in GNOME Shell "Calendar shows wrong day (Sun. Oct. 2nd instead of Mon Oct. 2nd)" [Medium,Confirmed] [15:49] I found the upstream bug, pinged on it for a review, but I vote notfixing for the release [15:49] as in, wait for that review [15:50] +1 [15:50] we can SRU the fix later [15:50] sounds minor enough to not risk it, at worst, SRU [15:50] yep :) [15:50] thx [15:51] kk, looks like the other bugs are not for us [15:51] no [15:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lshw/+bug/1720624 [15:51] Ubuntu bug 1720624 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 blank CD or audio CD not detected" [Undecided,New] [15:51]