[02:27] <acer> nbv
[05:31] <sparky8251> anyone here use Kates snippets a lot? trying to script adding the numbers on some lines together but cant find ANY recent docs on it. most recent i can find is for like v4.5 and it seems to be on v17 according to help now
[07:36] <hyper_ch> hi there, having a huge problem.... after loging in, I see the desktop for a second, then screen turns black.... then I see desktop again for a second, then screen turns black and stays black... I can still see the mouse cursor.... I did move the user home folder to /user/xxx-backup and created new empty user home folder, still same behaviour
[07:36] <hateball> hyper_ch: new install, has it worked before, etc?
[07:37] <hyper_ch> hateball: it worked before
[07:38] <hyper_ch> needed force poweroff to do yesterday because it was unresponsive
[07:40] <hyper_ch> hateball: created a new user, same behaviour
[07:42] <hyper_ch> hateball: same behaviour even with new user.... interestingly,  Alt-F2 for the search still works.... but it's black background and nothing else seems to be working
[07:42] <hateball> hyper_ch: right, and this happened since an update or what?
[07:43] <hyper_ch> hateball: no, had to force poweroff yesterday
[07:43] <hyper_ch> because notebook was not responsive
[07:44] <hateball> hyper_ch: anything in ~/.xsession-errors of interest?
[07:48] <hyper_ch> hateball: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/47fb63cb
[07:49] <hyper_ch> that was the new created user
[07:50] <hyper_ch> a problem with plasmashell?
[07:58] <hyper_ch> hateball: any idea?
[08:29] <hateball> hyper_ch: sorry beyond my scope of knowledge
[08:29] <hyper_ch> yeah :(
[08:29] <hateball> hyper_ch: suppose if you had to poweroff the machine in a poor state, liveboot it and run fsck?
[08:29] <hyper_ch> maybe time to use zfs and make regular snapshots
[09:49] <hyper_ch> hateball: so, got it to work again... first I did upgrade to 17.10 because I assumed some package file might have been damaged for some reason.... still, same behaviour... then I found to remove libqtcore4 which helped some users.... did that also... still no luck... then I read cups could be the culprit, purged and reinstalled... still the same... then I thought I grabe a 17.10 kubuntu iso, install it in a vm, generate a list of isntalled
[09:49] <hyper_ch> packages and and use that package list to do another apt-get install .... now it works again... few packages were missing :)
[10:15] <hateball> hyper_ch: weird
[10:51] <hyper_ch> hateball: https://github.com/sjau/bash-stuff/blob/master/apt-package-list  used that to get list of installed packaged in new kubuntu install in vm
[11:21] <John85> lo
[11:24] <hateball> hello
[11:30] <John85> sorry, think i joined the wrong channel lol
[11:31] <John85> nope im in the right place
[11:32] <John85> anyone use KDE wallet?  I downloaded the handbook,  but cant figure it out
[11:32] <lordievader> John85: Half, only my wifi password is in there.
[11:33] <John85> I have  created a new wallet in the wallet manager,  and from what the handbook says,  when i log on to a web site,  I should be propted as to weather i want to save log in details,  but it dont
[11:33] <lordievader> What browser, and does it have support for the Kwallet?
[11:33] <hateball> by default chromium will save to kwallet
[11:33] <John85> firefox
[11:34] <John85> ah ok
[11:34] <lordievader> Not sure if Firefox has support for it by default.
[11:34] <hateball> think you had to use a special plugin for firefox
[11:34] <hateball> plugin/extension
[11:34] <hateball> and now that mozilla has deprecated npapi... who knows
[11:36] <John85> ok,  found a plugin :)
[11:37] <John85> brb..need to restart firefox
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <lordievader> o/
[11:42] <John85> that was worrying
[11:42] <lordievader> ?
[11:42] <John85> kde wallet wont accept my password for firefox
[11:43] <John85> chrome works fine though
[11:44] <hateball> yeah, never tried getting kwallet to work with firefox
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader, John85
[11:44] <John85> hey BluesKaj
[11:44] <John85> might just migrate to chrome in that case
[11:45] <lordievader> How are you doing BluesKaj ?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> I don't muck about with kwallet, can't be bothered with it ...usually i receive a lecture about security at this point, but I haven't had any probs so far.
[11:47] <John85> i only really want KDE wallet to store passwords for websites, i dont want to have to enter my password whenever I open up a browser
[11:47] <BluesKaj> good here lordievader, and you?
[11:47] <lordievader> Doing good
[11:49] <John85> BluesKaj,  I'm thinking of going back to my old method of storing passwords too,  KDE looks like too much hassle
[11:49] <hateball> John85: well you can store them in firefox itself and use a master password, as well
[11:50] <hateball> John85: or just use a sane browser like chromium that works as expected ;p
[11:51] <BluesKaj> it's not kde so much as the whole wallet system is clunky IMO. John85`
[11:52] <John85> ye,  i tried reading through the handbook,  but couldnt figure it out, so will probably just leave it
[11:52] <John85> i do need to change my passwords though
[11:54] <BluesKaj> chrome works well ...i switched after FF decided they needed pulseaudio for web-audio ... not on my pcs they don't
[11:56] <John85> im just so used to using firefox,  used it for as long as i can remember
[11:58] <BluesKaj> me too but chrome quickly became my dwfault due to it's features , like PIA vpn extn and embedded version of flash that works
[12:00] <John85> if i cant get firefox to work again,  i may have to anyway
[12:14] <John85> anyone know of any apps available for checking security of passwords?
[12:17] <hateball> John85: see this https://www.cyberciti.biz/security/linux-password-strength-checker/
[12:17] <hateball> I use pwgen to generate random passwords
[12:21] <John85> random passwords are ok if you are storing them,  but i need a memorable yet secure master
[12:22] <John85> i believe my current one is secure,  but need to be sure,  and its probably time i chnaged it anyway
[12:22] <hateball> well yes, obviously you would not use kittykat1 as your master password :p
[12:23] <John85> no,  i googled most used passwords a while ago out of curiosity,  cant believe home many people use things like 12345 or qwerty
[12:30] <John85> hmmm...cracklib check says my password is "OK",  does not say how OK though lol
[12:31] <hateball> well either it's good or it's bad
[12:31] <hateball> either you can crack it easily, or you can't
[12:33] <John85> ok
[12:34] <John85> right..i best do some work
[12:34] <John85> speak soon
[12:47] <ForceRecon> !IrEaLlYcAnTsTaNdThIsMaChInE06061966
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, :-)
[12:48] <ForceRecon> Hey BluesKaj!  I just had to install chrome today to utilize some cryptography class videos in the browser.. Unfortunately Full screen ended up being the video in the middle with a huge white box around it
[12:53] <BluesKaj> perhaps the video aspect ratio is limiting it's size on full screen. ForceRecon
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, why use a browser anyway
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:14] <ForceRecon> sorry for delay
[13:14] <ForceRecon> the classes are posted online
[13:14] <ForceRecon> I can see them in YouTube but would rather do the ones from the official site and firefox won't play them
[13:15] <ForceRecon> http://www.crypto-textbook.com/ == online Course / Videos
[13:16] <ForceRecon> I just keep going here and use FF.. - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1usFRN4LCMcfIV7UjHNuQg/videos
[13:16] <ForceRecon> great teacher.. great classes
[13:24] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, the youtube video works fullscreen here
[13:24] <BluesKaj> on chrome
[14:40] <dougl> morning
[14:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning dougl
[14:41] <dougl> BluesKaj, how you making out wit vpn stuff?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> good, i installed a PIA vpn extn on chrome which hides my IP while I surf
[14:42] <BluesKaj> think Nordvpn has the same xetn
[14:43] <BluesKaj> extn even
[14:44] <dougl> BluesKaj, I never under stood the difference between vpn to be incognito or vpn to access remote network.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> dougl, their IP is substiuted for your actual IP by your vpn tunnel to their server , so thwe server IP shows as yours , not exactly incognito because an actual vpn server IP is shown as yours, but it ends there
[14:53] <dougl> BluesKaj, do you have a url for an educational read?
[14:55]  * dougl brb
[14:59] <dougl> k
[16:09] <threebar> so, i need help with sound
[16:09] <threebar> i have a Lenovo laptop, if that's important
[16:09] <threebar> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
[16:09] <threebar> standard 17.04 install
[16:10] <threebar> never messed with any sound
[16:10] <threebar> it just kinda worked
[16:10] <threebar> only problem: i start the system, it works fine. if i plug in my headphones, the audio switches to them. if i unplug them, it switches back to speakers
[16:10] <threebar> now, if i plug in the headphones again, no sound. unplugging sends sound to speakers
[16:11] <threebar> headphones never get sound until i restart
[16:11] <threebar> I haven't really had to mess with Linux sound stuff since ALSA was new, so I don't know much about PluseAudio or whatever the stuff is today
[16:19] <BluesKaj> threebar, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure automute is disabled, then add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, oprions snd-hda-intel index=0. That should help solidify your audio output settings
[16:19] <BluesKaj> correction: options snd-hda-intel index=0
[16:20] <threebar> ok, doing
[16:21] <threebar> done
[16:21] <threebar> should i test now?
[16:22] <threebar> same behavior
[16:22] <BluesKaj> logout and back in first
[16:22] <threebar> okay...
[16:22] <threebar> brb
[16:23] <threebar> back
[16:23] <threebar> 1 sec for me to check
[16:24] <threebar> negative
[16:24] <threebar> still broken
[16:24] <threebar> headphone cable unplugged, speakers work fine. plugged in = no sound
[16:25] <threebar> alsamixer headphone volume at 100, auto-mute = disabled
[16:25] <BluesKaj> you might have to reset your pulseaudio settings in system settings>multimedia>hardware
[16:26] <threebar> checking
[16:26] <BluesKaj> bbl..errands for 20mins or so
[16:27] <threebar> nothing working there
[16:28] <threebar> unplugging headphones makes stuff work there
[16:51] <kiroma> Hey, I'm eccountering a bug at random that makes Plasmashell use 100% of one thread for no apparent reason.
[16:54] <kiroma> I'm eccountering it right now, but the system still feels responsive.
[16:55] <kiroma> It looks like it has a softlocked while() loop somewhere, but I can't trace it down with perf top
[17:20] <mparillo> kiroma: I have seen that with dynamic wallpapers
[17:28] <kiroma> Don't have that mparillo
[17:29] <kiroma> But I have few widget
[17:29] <kiroma> s
[17:30] <kiroma> Oh and also mousing over a tab in task bar emits XCB Error
[18:18] <user|86554> hola
[18:18] <user|86554> Hello
[18:22] <user|86554> tengo una duda
[18:22] <user|86554> ojala puedan ayudarme
[18:22] <Ab3L> user|86554: this is an English channel
[18:22] <user|86554> i need help with Kubuntu
[18:22] <user|86554> ahh
[18:24] <Ab3L> user|86554: let us know your needs, and if someone that can help is reading, he/she will answer you.
[18:24] <user|86554> what software i should to use Kubuntu booteable in a a pendrive?
[18:24] <user|86554> Im in Ubuntu
[18:33] <kiroma> ‎user|86554: gnome-disks
[18:34] <kiroma> You can use any software you want, Kubuntu's installation image is just like any other one, but gnome-disks is already avaible and has option to write a disk image.
[19:21] <v3n0m> Please help me out. I am using kubuntu and I am behind a proxy in my university. The proxy settings of kde are not working.
[19:21] <v3n0m> I can't even use discover. I have to setup a proxy manually in firefox etc and the apps don't get the proxy itself.
[19:23] <v3n0m> I just used arch linux before and kde in it and it seemed to work that way in the proxy settings but it does not work in kubuntu. The version of kubuntu is 17.04
[19:23] <v3n0m> I really love kde and this is annoying me.
[19:24] <v3n0m> Anyone will help me or should I just leave?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, do you have the proxy set in system settings>settings>proxy?
[19:24] <v3n0m> yeah
[19:25] <v3n0m> I tried everything.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> which setting in proxy?
[19:25] <v3n0m> Setting up environment variables and allowing it to auto detect it. And setting up an environment variable myself.
[19:25] <v3n0m> Use manually.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> did you logout after each change
[19:25] <v3n0m> Is what I tired first and then the other.
[19:26] <v3n0m> Yeah, I rebooted.
[19:26] <v3n0m> I can make apt work through setting an environment variable but discover ain't working and neither the driver manager.
[19:27] <v3n0m> I mean it should just work by setting up proxy in the proxy setting just like gnome.
[19:27] <v3n0m> Why is it having this issue?
[19:28] <bael-c4> hello
[19:28] <bael-c4> where am i?
[19:29] <v3n0m> You are in the matrix talking to the 0s and 1s.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[19:29] <BluesKaj> bael-c4,  ^  this where
[19:29] <v3n0m> BluesKaj please help
[19:30] <v3n0m> This is getting frustrating.
[19:30] <bael-c4> thanks, now all is clear :-)
[19:30] <bael-c4> cheers
[19:31] <v3n0m> I mean, please there has to be a way.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, have you tried without the variables, whatever they may be
[19:31] <v3n0m> Yeah, without it as well.
[19:31] <v3n0m> I first set up without variables and was hoping it to work.
[19:31] <v3n0m> I mean, any issue with the proxy settings?
[19:32] <v3n0m> It didn't work in live evnvironment either while installing kubuntu.
[19:35] <v3n0m> Please any solution
[19:39] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, perhaps asking in #kde chat might help, if not there , then try the ##linux chat
[19:43] <v3n0m> What can be the issue?
[19:59] <v3n0m> It started working after I selected the option defaults
[20:00] <v3n0m> don't know what was the problem
[20:03] <v3n0m> Well yeah seemed like network manager wasn't running by default. All I did was sudo NetworkManager and it started working.
[20:57] <jamisnemo> If i install kubuntu fresh, what kernel version will it come with?
[20:57] <jamisnemo> or rather, how do i find that out?
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic artful
[20:58]  * genii goes back to making another pot of coffee
[21:07] <jamisnemo> genii, thanks!
[23:02] <ForceRecon> join #freenode