| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:43 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 06:21 |
| jink | 'sup, kids. | 06:25 |
| jink | Happy World Animal Day. You all get an extra treat today. :P | 06:25 |
| lordievader | o/ | 06:29 |
| ducasse | morning all | 07:08 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse, how are you? | 07:39 |
| ducasse | good thanks, lordievader - and you? | 07:40 |
| lordievader | Doing good here :) | 07:42 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl work | 08:37 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:41 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | hey pauljw | 14:29 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj, how's it going? | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | just fine thanks, pauljw, and you ? | 14:31 |
| pauljw | good here | 14:32 |
| nicomachus | it's playoff time for American baseball. :D | 14:45 |
| pauljw | :) | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | well it's called the "World Series" ...never undesrstood why, because no other leagues other than the American and National Leagues are allowed to participate :-) | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | we all know what that implies , but it's rather presumptuous | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | just funnin' btw ... i always liked baseball, even played it a bit as a kid | 14:52 |
| pauljw | how many other viable leagues were in existence when it was so named? it is an American sport | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | yup, so it should be called the US series or some such | 14:53 |
| pauljw | some such as World Series?? if they were the only leagues in the world at the time, it's not wrong. | 14:55 |
| pauljw | ...but maybe the rug we're sweeping the rest of history under is big enough for baseball, too. | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | this site debunks internet myths and it seems derive from world championship series from the 1880s or so http://www.snopes.com/business/names/worldseries.asp | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | but it's still presumptuous :-) | 15:06 |
| nacc | there are canadian teams :) | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | there were lots of baseball teams in Canada, especially in 1903 | 15:07 |
| nacc | yeah | 15:07 |
| nacc | was just saying the "us series" would also be wrong | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | but they didn't have money to challenge the American pros | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | Canada invented hockey but it took American money, arenas and fans to make it a pro league | 15:10 |
| nicomachus | pauljw: there are a lot of asian and south american leagues | 15:29 |
| nicomachus | japan and korea in particular are noteworthy | 15:29 |
| nicomachus | But also, yes, Canadian teams. | 15:29 |
| nicomachus | well, not just "team". Used to be "teams" | 15:30 |
| nicomachus | s/not/now/ | 15:30 |
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| BluesKaj | there's also a baseball world cup plus the olympics | 15:53 |
| daftykins | nicomachus: so i guess the Royals as we knew them are now gone, who knows how many players will leave! | 15:54 |
| nicomachus | at least 3 key players. and we already let 5 coaches go. | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | what's happening with the Royals? | 15:55 |
| daftykins | well they didn't make it to postseason this year, most likely due to getting rid of too many good players for this season | 15:55 |
| daftykins | doubt it was really the coaches fault, but they got the axe anyway | 15:55 |
| nicomachus | ehh... our pitching was pretty sub-standard. And the pitching coach was the big one they let go. | 15:56 |
| nicomachus | BluesKaj: 3 key players are now free agents (contracts were up), and we just don't have the money to renew their contracts. | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | not good , guess they got rid of some big salaries | 15:57 |
| daftykins | weirdly it's still Alex Gordon who earns the most versus anyone else | 15:57 |
| nicomachus | we're paying him WAY too much | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening guys | 17:00 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | hey lotuspsychje | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | hi oerheks | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | wayland isnt going well for me on artful | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | buggy mouse lags over animations/icons start | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | i read alot of those kind of bugs on wayland, both fedora & ubuntu | 17:05 |
| oerheks | heya lotus :-D | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | i haven't even bothered trying wayland since i'm on kde/plasma with nvidia gpu | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | fedora 25 with wayland and gnome 3 was very smooth and silkywith intel i915 driver but it was still gnome so it didn't last long on my laptop | 17:09 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: remember wich gnome version that was? | 17:10 |
| oerheks | fedora is much smoother, for ages, smoother bootscreen, and such | 17:10 |
| TJ- | I think most of that is to do with using gdm rather than lightdm/sddm, and this stupid split where the greeter runs on a different tty at times | 17:12 |
| lotuspsychje | the weird thing overall smoothnes is okay, just when i click icons to launch programs its laggy | 17:14 |
| lotuspsychje | htop shows gnome-shell and wayland ontop | 17:15 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje,well that makes sense, ..must be something else eating resourcers | 17:15 |
| lotuspsychje | on xorg, everything runned like rocket | 17:16 |
| lotuspsychje | you think wayland will not be a light thing to install on older systems? | 17:17 |
| daftykins | time to dump the single core athlon XP, lotus :) | 17:17 |
| * daftykins ducks | 17:17 | |
| lotuspsychje | lolll | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | hehe | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | its a 64bit amd 3200!!! | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | w00t | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | 2gig ram & 120gig ssd | 17:18 |
| lotuspsychje | i still boot faster then w10 | 17:18 |
| daftykins | oh i could've sworn you said it was still an Athlon XP :) | 17:18 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | I'm on an old amd 5200+ dual core , maybe wayland will run ok if I replace the nvidia with an amd gpu, or will it ? | 17:19 |
| daftykins | it might legacy boot something faster than 10, but modern hardware can boot 10 faster than old kit can boot legacy OSs | 17:19 |
| lotuspsychje | with an ati X800 | 17:19 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: thats true, cant compare with intel i... | 17:19 |
| daftykins | don't dump nvidia D: | 17:19 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: tested artful on that machine? | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, yup, speaking to you from Artful kde/plasma | 17:21 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | I read about wayland devel co-operation between nvida and fedora devs | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | they've formed a team, but i use the word loosely | 17:23 |
| daftykins | still smells to me like AMD's drivers are in a state of flux | 17:23 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: hmm that could be it right | 17:24 |
| lotuspsychje | i really wonder artful final | 17:25 |
| lotuspsychje | if they well make it with wayland | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, things will reamain so for a while until OS devels and the mfgs firm up their positions on wayland so to speak | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | but I do think wayland is the future, no going back now | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.thetrackr.com/bravo | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 17:45 |
| BluesKaj | hmm apparently the nouveau driver woks with wayland for nvidia gpus..nouvea has usually worked well with my semi-legacy Geforce 210 gpu | 17:49 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-384 | 17:56 |
| ubot5 | Package nvidia-384 does not exist in xenial | 17:56 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-384 artful | 17:57 |
| ubot5 | Package nvidia-384 does not exist in artful | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, the kwin-wayland deb package has unmet dependencies, oh well , maybe next time | 18:32 |
| Bashing-om | awaiting nvidia-384 to hit the artful repo : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/artful-changes/2017-October/011550.html . | 18:35 |
| BluesKaj | what i meant was the kwin package has unmet dependencies with the nouveau driver. wayland is supposed to work on the nouveau according to the article i just read | 18:38 |
| * Bashing-om afk for bout an hour :( | 18:40 | |
| daftykins | not the lawn again?! | 18:41 |
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