[13:37] <notlikethesoup> wb mrgoodcat
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> hi
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> digital ocean had a problem with my physical host
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> box rebooted a couple times
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> i've been migrated to new hardware now
[13:38] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:38] <cmaloney> good deal
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> google i/o today
[13:46] <rick_h> woot woot
[13:46] <cmaloney> They better still have a headphone jack on their new phones or there will be a paddling
[13:46] <rick_h> nope, won't be there
[13:48] <cmaloney> grrrr
[13:48] <cmaloney> I've already done the whole "daisy chain shit" off of a single port
[13:50] <rick_h> yea, I'm not looking forward to my next long flight with the "power with a headphone port" dongle required
[13:50] <cmaloney> http://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/mirror/www.atari-explorer.com/images/serial-dc1.gif
[13:51] <rick_h> the damn qc20 are firmly in place for best travel headphones around
[13:51] <cmaloney> I refuse to buy USB-C headphones
[13:51] <cmaloney> REFUSE
[13:52] <rick_h> there's only one usb-c port. If you're watching movies on the plane you'll need the dual dongle.
[13:52] <cmaloney> I'm not trusting a company that is already trying to meet a price-point to have a decent DAC converter
[13:52] <rick_h> I think apple finally released their version
[13:52] <cmaloney> converter converter. ;)
[13:54] <rick_h> https://goo.gl/nQEMKK nothing like adding some bulk to your sleek phone
[13:54] <cmaloney> I understand they're catering to the blutooth audio folks
[13:54] <cmaloney> but frankly audio over blutooth is not grat
[13:55] <cmaloney> great
[13:55] <rick_h> it's better, but yea not great.
[13:55] <rick_h> I picked some up for riding the stationary bike
[13:55] <cmaloney> this is what gets people to think vinyl is the superior format
[13:55] <rick_h> but power is limited, noise cancelling sucks
[13:55] <rick_h> lol
[13:55] <rick_h> "man, I miss the good ole days with bluetooth. All that dropping out really added character to the music"
[13:56] <cmaloney> sibbibbiliaaannnceeeee
[14:03] <mrgoodcat> rick_h: i like my mdr-1000x a lot as well
[14:05] <mrgoodcat> also i disagree that the noise cancelling sucks
[14:06] <rick_h> Bluetooth noise cancelling? Every review is it's not as good as the qc20 and that's not as good as their over ears ones
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> i used both in the store and decided on these
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> you can use them at CHC if you like
[14:06] <mrgoodcat> er try them out that is
[14:07] <rick_h> Cool will have to check it out
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> i got them for work. we have an open-ish floor plan and a training program for field consultants that consists of mostly 20-23 year olds
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> i havent been at chc in a while
[14:07] <mrgoodcat> are people still going regularly?
[14:09] <mrgoodcat> the biggest advantage of these is that they have an analog wired option
[14:09] <rick_h> I've not been in a long time.
[14:09] <mrgoodcat> which i used on the plane
[14:13] <cmaloney> I'm still going
[14:13] <cmaloney> We have a meetup group now.
[14:14] <rick_h> cmaloney: linky to the meetup group?
[14:17] <mrgoodcat> http://meetu.ps/c/3k5kN/BT1Ky/d
[14:20] <cmaloney> Mat set it up, so we're at 50 members
[14:21] <cmaloney> and naturally there's a lot of folks in there that have yet to make a meeting
[14:28] <mrgoodcat> yup
[14:28] <mrgoodcat> do people actually use the rsvp feature?
[14:29] <cmaloney> Sometimes
[14:29]  * cmaloney just cleared out a bunch of folks who haven't shown up (AFAICT).
[14:29] <cmaloney> Still thinking about building a meetup competitor
[14:30] <cmaloney> with federation
[14:30] <mrgoodcat> any particular reason other than the obvious of wanting to use federated services?
[14:32] <cmaloney> Ideally I'd like it to talk to other federated services so you can share photos with Mediagoblin and toot about it via Mastodon
[14:32] <cmaloney> since meetings are (by definition) social events
[14:32] <cmaloney> why not incorporate social platforms into it
[14:33] <cmaloney> That too, and I'd like an environment where if soemone wants to really keep something private they can
[14:33] <cmaloney> Groups that still want to meet but don't want the attention
[14:33] <cmaloney> eg: recovery groups, victims of assault, etc
[14:34] <cmaloney> so the meeting could be set to not federate off of the erver
[14:34] <cmaloney> server
[14:35] <brousch> cmaloney: Please do
[14:35] <brousch> I've thought the same
[14:35] <brousch> meetup is expensive: $140+/yr
[14:35] <cmaloney> Yeah, it is
[14:35] <cmaloney> Also I'd like it to federate so folks can run their own servers and not cost us a dime
[14:36] <brousch> Yes
[14:36] <cmaloney> but we can charge small amounts of money to be on the main server
[14:36] <cmaloney> part of this is also allowing groups that have wrong information on Google
[14:36] <cmaloney> eg: a church that has hours from M-F 9am-5pm
[14:36] <cmaloney> Closed Sunday
[14:37] <brousch> The church can fox its hours
[14:37] <brousch> fix
[14:37] <cmaloney> (Name me a Christian church that is closed on Sunday)
[14:37] <cmaloney> Right, but what's listed is the office hours, not the service hours
[14:38] <cmaloney> But yeah, that's the onus for the project
[14:38] <cmaloney> Meetup is expensive and is charged per group
[14:38] <cmaloney> and has a ridiculous membership cap for the basic level
[14:38] <cmaloney> which gets filled up with folks who are joiners, not participators
[14:39] <brousch> 7th day adventists
[14:39] <cmaloney> brousch: Thank you for reminding me of the exception to the general rule. :)
[14:50] <jrwren> Good morning
[14:50] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:53] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: what are you referring to RE: google information
[14:53] <mrgoodcat> does meetup check to make sure your hours are correct?
[15:12] <cmaloney> no, different problems
[15:12] <cmaloney> re: google information on a location vs. meetup foo
[17:22] <greg-g> wearing fingertipless gloves, it's cold in my office
[17:29] <cmaloney> I didn't realize Wikimedia was in that dire straits.
[17:30] <greg-g> :) home office
[17:30] <greg-g> low 60s in here
[17:31] <cmaloney> heh
[17:31] <cmaloney> We have humidity here. Looks like it wants to rain
[17:32] <jrwren> warmer in MI than it is out west this week.
[17:32] <rick_h> Rained here, thunder and such
[17:32] <rick_h> Clearing up a bit now
[17:33] <cmaloney> rick_h: Ah, must be that weather north of the University Drive line
[17:33]  * cmaloney is making shit up
[17:33] <jrwren> hahaha, swiping on the ear peice of google pixel buds.
[17:34] <jrwren> i wonder if they patented the touchpad on earpiece.
[18:26] <greg-g> what's the term for an academic article that is a meta analysis... I think I just remembered, meta analysis
[18:26] <dzho> that's the one
[18:27] <rick_h> jrwren: yea, but the translate demo was pretty cool
[19:08] <jrwren> VERY cool
[20:23] <mrgoodcat> yea that was the best part of the event
[20:26] <rick_h> ugh "Google bumped up the camera's aperture from f/1.8 to f/2.0. This lets in more light, which is everything in photography."
[20:26] <rick_h> umm, no. 1.8 is more light than 2.0
[20:27] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:27] <mrgoodcat> where do you see that?
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> rear is f/1.8 aperture btw on the pix2
[20:28] <rick_h> saw that in a cnet article
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> just looked in tech specs
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> 'im sure they just had it backwards
[20:28] <rick_h> hmm, maybe that's "from 2.0 to 1.8
[20:28] <rick_h> ah ok, that's cool then
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> i wonder how much of the advantage of the pix2 will be backported to pix1. obviously hw changes can't be, but things like the ML in the camera
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> is that somethign being released today? something that has been slowly developed and is just in the google camera app? pix2 specific?
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> does it depend on new hardware?
[20:32] <rick_h> well I think the big thing on the camera is the left/right pixels
[20:33] <rick_h> the ML is nice and all, but I think it's the dual pixels that's enabling the feature
[20:33] <rick_h> the new launch interface and such should arrive for sure