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magkneetoehey03:03
magkneetoebefore installing package from apt-get should i do -f?03:04
magkneetoeor does it install necessary dependancies03:04
keithzg[m]magkneetoe: If you're installing a package from apt, it automatically figures out dependencies. You only need stuff like -f when you've installed a .deb file manually and it's missing dependencies.03:05
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magkneetoeke03:06
magkneetoekeithzg[m]: thanks for that03:06
keithzg[m]magkneetoe: no problem :)03:07
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lordievaderGood morning06:10
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Guest94996Hi07:33
lordievadero/08:11
anqxyron 17.04, I can't enable scripts in ktorrent, despite having krosspython installed. Any advice?08:26
markcAre there any Plasma 5.11 PPAs around?09:42
markcI've been using http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu artful but 5.11 is due today (6th)09:43
acheronukmarkc: plasma 5.11 is due out on the 10th09:57
acheronukhttps://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_509:57
acheronukDate Release: Tue 2017-10-1009:58
acheronukmarkc: have done some test builds already, but not public ones. when they get to release on 10th, should have something somewhere, even if just builds for testers to try10:06
ysteinHello. I am wondering why most touchpad settings are greyed out in System Settings. Using Kubuntu Artful, latest daily on an Asus laptop. Might this be a known bug or am I ignoring something?10:22
ysteinNo extra drivers for my touchpad are available from the Driver Manager in System Settings. Touchpad is working fine; the only issue is that I can't change the settings from the Settings Manager.10:27
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BluesKajHey folks10:54
ystein_Hello BluesKaj11:10
BluesKajHi ystein_11:10
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markc‎acheronuk‎: apologies, I was looking at the Date Tars column and got over excited, I'd love to be a tester so I'll poke around again in 4 or 5 days12:24
acheronukmarkc: no probs. that (yesterday) is when distro packagers got the first spin of release tarballs to test build. then find any build issue or obvious bugs, so they correct those problems for the actual release12:27
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markc‎acheronuk‎: yep, I tested the beta packages and reported back before they went public12:28
acheronukmarkc: same here, but keeping a bit of a tighter reign on access until I know these are likely to be the final ones12:31
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gsharp_Windows 10 user(legacy/mbr), wanna install Ubuntu14:28
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BluesKajgsharp_, this Kubuntu support , but look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation14:57
gsharp_   guess both Ubuntu and Kubuntu work the same :)14:57
BluesKajnot exactly, but close what do you want to install, Kubuntu or Ubuntu?14:58
gsharp_Ubuntu :)14:59
gsharp_Actually have got a downloaded Ubuntu iso file14:59
BluesKajgsharp_, then join the #ubuntu chat for help if needed15:00
BluesKajor refer to the URL I posted above15:00
gsharp_Posted my question there....haven't yet responded15:01
gsharp_Actually I had tried installing by reading ubuntu forums and watching youtube videos but didn't work out for me :(15:01
oerheksi didn't see a question in there > <gsharp_> Ubuntu setup in a windows laptop <gsharp_> mbr partitioned15:02
gsharp_oerheks: Yeah15:19
kiromaHow do you resize widgets?15:21
mparilloclick and hold.15:21
kiromaThat moves it15:21
mparilloYou should see a bar on the side of your widgets after maybe three second.15:22
mparilloseconds15:22
kiromaO15:22
kiromah15:22
kiromaThat's not intuitive15:22
mparilloI used to prefer the right mouse button way from Plasma 4.15:23
mparilloIIRC15:23
kiromaI'm on 17.1015:23
kiromaOkay, thanks.15:23
dougielmorning folds16:45
dougielerr folks too16:45
douglwhat should I google for to fix my icon text on desktop of 17.04 with nvidia drivers?17:25
kiromadougl what's the issue? Is the text corrupted?17:40
kiromaIt's a fairly known issue that NVidia's properitary drivers don't handle going to sleep too well.17:44
vrmuppallaIs omission of kio_gdrive in beta2 intentional or an oversight ?17:49
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I'm not sure that kio gdrive has had a release yet17:50
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> if it has, yes it is an oversight17:50
vrmuppallathanks, Valoriez. Hope to see it in final.17:51
vrmuppallaIt is included in neon releases, even the LTS.17:52
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> well, neon is mostly git-snapshots, but LTS should be released software, so I"ll ask the devels17:54
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Partly oversight, partly as it's not even a source in debian yet, and could not work until we got apps 17.04.x in17:56
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> it may be too late to get it into Artful because of the freezes17:56
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> but we'll have it for sure soon after release17:56
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> good point, rik17:57
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> It can and will go into backports PPA on release day17:57
vrmuppallaoh, no ! It worked quite well in neon. Was able to use kde wallet to store the auth tokens and could access multiple accounts.17:57
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+packages?field.name_filter=gdrive&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=17:58
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> have built it. just did not quite get into the main archive17:58
kiromaClicking on left side of my screen voids any mouse input18:09
kiromaAs if the mouse was getting out of bounds of my screen18:09
ystein_Nice to know that kio-gdrive is coming. I was considering switching to Neon or Manjaro just for that feature (google drive).18:26
BluesKajystein_, seems it's not in the repos for Kubuntu yet18:30
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> it is in staging, which should only be used for testing18:32
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> but once it's in debian, it's a shoein for the archives18:32
acheronukyes, the loooooooooooooooooooooong debian freeze for stretch put us behind for several new packages18:34
BluesKajystein_, but this ppa looks like it'll work https://askubuntu.com/questions/936140/can-kio-gdrive-be-installed-to-kubuntu-or-only-kde-neon18:34
acheronukshould be easier to get new sources into the archive now18:35
acheronukbut Artful freeze is in place sadly18:35
ystein_BluesKaj: Hey, thanks. Will check it out later.18:37
BluesKajystein_, np18:38
BluesKajthink I'll wait since I'm on Artful. 3 weeks or so isn't too long, and I don't use the google drive much anyway18:40
douglkiroma, thanks for the input - s19:17
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IwakiAnyone care to explain why this function is in KDE ?19:45
clivejowhat function?19:45
IwakiThe chat19:45
IwakiIs it just for the lolz? or is it functional?19:46
clivejobecause a lot of development takes place on IRC19:46
IwakiOk thank you :)19:46
clivejoand KDE is great :P19:46
acheronukIRC is old, but it is tested and reliable, so still used by many open source projects19:47
IwakiFirst time using Kubuntu ;) came from elementaryOS but thought it was too buggy. Not enough to be terrible but enough to be annoyin19:47
clivejothe Kool Kids use Telegram19:47
IwakiFeel the menu's are a bit on the busy side19:47
IwakiAh, I use telegram19:48
kiromaIRC is used a lot by developers. If you need to ask a question about a Linux compoment you can bet there is a channel for category of question you want to ask.19:48
IwakiCool :)19:48
clivejowhat version of Kubuntu have you installed?19:48
kiromaKDE applications are usualy like that, they like putting as many features in as possible.19:48
kiromaNot that I complain.19:49
Iwaki17.0419:49
clivejoIwaki: what do you use your system for mostly?19:49
acheronukDaniel Foré from elementary was on our podcast a few months back. he'll be sad to hear you left19:50
acheronukbut we are glad to have you19:50
IwakiMostly for browsing, typing up documents. I travel a lot since I have an overseas relationship19:50
IwakiTried ubuntu for a few weeks but thought it was too bloated with Amazon junk19:51
clivejoand unity :P19:51
IwakiLoved tinycore as a daily driver. But it just looks like *#*19:52
kiromaUnity isn't too bad IMO, but I enjoy Plasma.19:52
clivejoI don't like it at all!19:54
clivejojust rubs me the wrong way19:54
IwakiHmm yes, I get where you're coming from19:55
IwakiFeels like intuitive things are missing in it's GUI19:55
IwakiIt just doesn't do what you want it to do19:56
acheronukto much hassle switching apps/desktop/workspaces for me19:56
acheronukKDE panels and taskmanagers just do what I want19:57
kiromaWhere can I change screenshot daemon?19:57
clivejoacheronuk: do you use latte-dock on your own install?19:57
kiromaI don't like spectacle too much.19:57
acheronukclivejo: nope. it's nice, but a few hacks of the iconsonly taskmanager's qml actually does better for me right now19:58
IwakiAcheronuk: I rarely use more than one desktop or workspace. So didn't have any trouble with that19:59
douglkiroma, Thank you for the info re: Nvidia and artifacts/bad title bars and messy desktop icon labels - I messed around with the drivwes and check option for intel micro code and it seems to have resolved the issue - just thought I give you a 'nod' and thank you for the pointer and share incase anyone else is wondering19:59
IwakiMy kubuntu is as stock as it gets atm19:59
kiromaNo problem, we're here to help.20:00
douglthanks20:00
acheronukfair enough. KDE is flexible enough to cope with most needs :)20:00
clivejoI want more!20:00
Iwakianyone know where i can define keyboard shortcuts? I want my terminal to be Ctrl+alt+t20:00
clivejoSystem Settings > Shortcuts20:01
kiromaIwaki: System Settings -> Shortcuts20:01
kiromaCustom Shortcuts -> Examples -> Enable: Run Terminal20:02
clivejounder Workspace section20:02
IwakiThanks :)20:02
kiroma*Run Konsole20:02
douglIwaki, did you find where to config that ctl+alt+t I cannot find terminal in the list20:05
IwakiYes I found it. It's called konsole20:06
IwakiI guess KDE is german :P20:06
IwakiIt's a bit messy though. but maybe it's because of my low display resolution20:07
IwakiType in search "global shortcuts"20:07
douglLOL - I knew it english was a second language to the creators...20:07
douglIwaki, thank you20:07
douglHmmm - still cannot find it... I must be blind?20:09
Iwakiclick the +20:09
IwakiThen it's under system20:10
IwakiDon't praise the day untill it ended :P20:10
douglPraise Jeebus - I would have never found that thank you20:11
acheronukI love KDE, but they do make some stuff hard to find!20:12
clivejoand weird names!20:12
IwakiActually I still prefer elementary. But every bug I get rid of I get 10 new ones20:13
IwakiAlso my bluetooth doesn't work20:14
Iwakisays adapter isn't found20:14
douglI have always been KDE for main computers - I like the eye candy20:16
IwakiI've been using elementary somewhere since version 0.120:17
IwakiAnd ubuntu till 1020:17
acheronukyou can make most desktops look 'pretty' with some effort, but with KDE it's the shortest road. plus the default is not bad20:18
clivejopretty decent on resources too20:19
IwakiI added effort in the West-Frysk translations for Elementary. I think I was the only user as well ^20:19
kiromaThe dark default is cool20:20
acheronukyeah. still quite amazed it now uses about 400MB RAM on new install!20:20
kiromaMeanwhile windows consumes 3gb when idle.20:20
acheronukunless you start akonadi20:20
clivejothen boom20:22
IwakiWindows is as leak as a basket :P Friend of mine lost his password. Windows tells you it's impossible to reset it. Unless you boot up cmd from a usb and add a new administrator. It kind of made us question the need for a password20:22
douglYes, Linux makes pretty much anything possible but for people with bad memory (brain) kubuntu os my goto OS20:22
clivejogigabytes gone and disk grinding hell20:23
IwakiNo disks grinding here. SSD's only :)20:23
kiromaNTFS Purgatory20:23
douglI have dual nvidia (sli) is there anyway I can run to xorg thinys one on each display?20:26
IwakiWish I could help. never had the luxury of 2 graphics cards. sorry20:26
IwakiYou already installed the proprietary drivers?20:27
kiromaWhat do you mean by "Xorg thingy"?20:28
kiromaYou mean the display manager dougl?20:28
douglkiroma, yes 2 X servers20:37
kiromaI'm not sure if that's possible20:37
douglIwaki, I never had nice cards until my son gave me his rig - by gave I mean only charged me for the additional 560Ti20:38
douglkiroma, I dont know either but sounds like fun trying20:38
kiromaI know you can run 2 x servers and switch between them, but having both run concurrently is a whole different thing.20:38
douglkiroma, 2 x servers means I can rotate (desktop cube) each monitor independantly20:39
douglkiroma, wow that sounds cool20:39
kiromaNo, 2 x servers means you can switch between them like you do between virtual consoles20:40
kiromaSo ctrl+alt+F1-F1220:40
kiromaBy default you have an x session running on tty7 (ctrl+alt+F7)20:40
douglok20:42
kiromaTry #ubuntu, there are more pros than here. Maybe it is possible.20:43
douglyes I recall I have had an x server running on f7 and f8 before...20:43
douglkiroma, that was forever ago tho20:43
kiromaYou still have, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use konversation.20:44
douglI think gentoo or redhat20:44
douglkiroma, konversation do tell20:44
douglkonversation does not even run on my machine.20:45
douglcrashes20:45
kiromaI mean you wouldn't be able to use graphical interfaces20:45
dougloh20:46
kiromaYou can press ctrl+alt+F1 to see how Linux looks without xsession and ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to it.20:47
douglkiroma, right ;)20:48
douglbrb20:50
Iwakidougl: that's mighty nice of your son to give you his old rig. Wish i still had a desktop my notebook lacks graphic power21:17
douglIwaki, he is a good kid well young man21:24
IwakiI just left my Notebook for a while to find it was blowing at max speed. The package "web" was taking up 100% of my cpu only the webpage youtube was opened and this chat22:12
IwakiAnyone else have problems with this?22:13

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