[00:21] <tsimonq2> n-iCe: Yep
[00:21] <tsimonq2> n-iCe: We're keeping it.
[00:21] <tsimonq2> n-iCe: We said something on Twitter on 9/28: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/913532513234096128
[00:22] <n-iCe> but is it going to be oficial?
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Yes.
[00:22] <n-iCe> since ubuntu will not keep it, and you grubs stuff from ubuntu
[00:22] <tsimonq2> n-iCe: Only Ubuntu *Desktop* is dropping it
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Every other flavor and us is keeping it
[00:22] <n-iCe> oh ok
[00:22] <tsimonq2> s/is/are/
[08:55] <murii> Where is the location of man's directory?
[11:30] <zap0> hi,  i recently did a software update....   it rebooted.    and now it wont start
[11:30] <zap0> it seems to get as far as  doing some query with the wifi...
[11:31] <zap0> i have booted a usb-live  lubuntu ok
[11:31] <zap0> how do i fix the one of the HDD ?
[11:31] <leszek> zap0: you need to figure out what is causing the issue. So what the culprit is
[11:32] <leszek> if its just a newer kernel lubuntu saves a list of installed kernels even older ones in the bootloader. So maybe try booting an older kernel
[11:32] <zap0> ok.
[11:32] <zap0> so how do i go about doing that?
[11:32] <zap0> i have the live ubuntu up and running.
[11:33] <leszek> zap0: go to the bootloader by rebooting
[11:34] <zap0> ok;   what key is that?      F1? f2?   F8 ?
[11:35] <leszek> usually it should appear on its own. Though if you only have lubuntu installed it might skip the grub bootloader. So pressing escape or shift should do
[11:35] <zap0> ok.
[11:37] <zap0> got to grub..  theres a huge list of (i'm guessing) kernel images..   blah blah 4.10.0-33-generic.. in batches of 3..  1) -- 2) upstart  3) recovery.   and then older 4.10.0-(less than 33)
[11:38] <leszek> zap0: exactly
[11:38] <leszek> try one of the older ones and see if it works with them
[11:38] <zap0> do i go for the latest one in recovery mode;  or   the previous version?
[11:42] <zap0> tried older one;  that's got the same weird  issue..  it's stuck trying to reset the graphics mode (i'm guessing)..   it goes between a screen with a cursor and the text log..  over and over again
[11:49] <leszek> zap0: sounds like a driver issue to me
[11:49] <leszek> do you have to happen anything proprietary installed?
[11:50] <zap0> it's a netbook..  it's been running fine (without any hardware changes) for over a year..  i've upgraded thru about 6 versions of lubuntu..   nothings changed.
[11:51] <zap0> the problem started a few days ago when i did that regular  software upgrade thing (just updates the installed stuff)
[11:51] <zap0> i have no propretiry stuff.   i don't do any kernel level stuff at all.
[11:52] <zap0> i have tried doing some arduino coding from it.... so maybe (big guess) it has a USB driver for that?!?!     that's the only thing i can think of
[11:52] <zap0> never had issues with it though.
[11:53] <zap0> is there some feature where i can roll back recent  updates?
[12:11] <leszek> zap0: if you did not do any btrfs snapshot then no
[12:11] <leszek> zap0: would be nice to know where the issue is. Can you take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:17] <chilaka> I am trying to install lubuntu 17.04 desktopt version(32 bit) through virtual box."ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1" error is ocuuring when I select the timezone as chicago
[15:26] <chilaka> Can you please help how to resolve this issue
[15:29] <leszek> chilaka: is this only a cosmetic problem or are there real problems?
[15:32] <chilaka> It is not allowing me to move further
[15:33] <chilaka> If I continue with this error, installation is getting crashed
[16:27] <chilaka> https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhzmmEQ8rBtV
[16:28] <chilaka> I am not able to share the screenshot
[16:37] <redwolf> try to use imgur
[16:40] <chilaka> can you please let me know how can i do that
[16:40] <chilaka> i need to upload the screenshot of the error
[16:41] <wxl> copy/paste
[16:41] <mmarconm> chilaka, https://imgur.com/
[16:43] <chilaka> https://imgur.com/QQOioCX
[16:43] <chilaka> Thank you
[16:43] <chilaka> I uploaded the screenshot of the error i am getting
[16:43] <redwolf> ah perfect. I see it now.
[16:43] <chilaka> :)
[16:44] <redwolf> that error happens for two reasons: 1. the installer is corrupt (download failed). 2.  that bug happened before and it's being fixed
[16:44] <redwolf> something related to EFI
[16:45] <mmarconm> chilaka, are u using usb boot or dvd to install lubuntu ?
[16:45] <chilaka> dvd
[16:45] <chilaka> i installed virtual box first and then downloaded the lubuntu desktop 17.04
[16:47] <chilaka> i am following this site to install : https://dwheelerau.com/2014/01/25/setting-up-a-lubuntu-virtual-machine-with-virtual-box/
[16:56] <mmarconm> chilaka, this install on screenshot is a virtual m, or real machine ?
[16:59] <chilaka> its in virtual machine
[18:15] <mixfmredfox> Hi guys. help with advice I installed today LUBUNTU 17.04 near with Windows 7 encountered such a problem when I run LUBUNTU then the port does not work, the indicators are not lit, nothing at all, how I can not connect, when I restart the PC on Windows, the same situation happens, the network card does not work no signs of life (although in fact everything is fine-tuned, and working before installing Linux) found the solution to
[18:15] <mixfmredfox> I pull out the PC and do a BIOS reset (clrcmos)  then when you start Windows everything works, everything is as usual, and when I run Linux, everything will repeat and such a problem was observed in other Linux destructives (Ubuntu, Linux Mint,) tell me what the problem can be and how it can be solved thank you in advance
[18:17] <as2330> hele me
[18:58] <yusu> i am new to Linux. How do I install Lubuntu on my Pc that is already running Ubuntu 14.04 and crashes Firefox multiple times during any browsing session?
[18:59] <wxl> yusu: if you're trying to "fix" firefox by doing that, i'm not sure it will happen, unless your issue is that you're running out of memory
[19:01] <yusu> I am not out of memory. I have 69 gigs and 2gigs ram
[19:01] <wxl> then the issue probably lies in firefox itself somewhere
[19:01] <wxl> did you try using a new profile?
[19:03] <yusu> no, how do I do that? I tried updating The ubuntu but it doesn't allow me to do so.
[19:04] <wxl> do `firefox -ProfileManager` and make a new profile and use it
[19:05] <yusu> ok i will try that. if it is not successful can I come back to you?
[19:06] <wxl> sure btu you can also do #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[19:07] <yusu> ok. Thanks, will keep you posted.
[19:27] <rivermonk> hiyas, Lubuntu kids
[19:28] <rivermonk> question:  I have been using the 32bit Ubuntu release for several year, with outstanding results.  Since Ubuntu is dropping 32bit, which flavor do I need to get?  Xubuntu? Lubuntu" Mint?
[19:29] <wxl> we have no intention of removing 32 bit, so use lubuntu
[19:29] <wxl> we are the ONLY flavour that focused on older machines, so we will be the last one to drop it
[19:31] <rivermonk> thanks for the reply.  and is Lubuntu somehow "better" than Xubuntu (I have heard they are also not dropping 32bit)?
[19:32] <wxl> well yeah totally better
[19:32] <wxl> in the same way that green is better than blue
[19:32] <wxl> (which is to say *I* think it's better, but i can't promise the same for you)
[19:33] <rivermonk> yeah, I figure it is apples and oranges.  not sure how to make the decision
[19:33] <wxl> lubuntu is unique (objectively) in that we specifically target older models so we make decisions based on whether or not it remains lightweight
[19:33] <wxl> if you are not limited on resources, that may not be a need, but it can still be a benefit
[19:34] <wxl> both builds are inheriently lighter weight, but lubuntu is more constrained over all
[19:34] <wxl> for example, we don't include open office, but include abiword
[19:35] <wxl> frankly, i loathe abiword and it pales in comparison to libreoffice (sorry didn't mean to say open office) but requires more memory and disk space which is not a reasonable assumption for our target market
[19:35] <wxl> so when i install lubuntu, i install libreoffice. done.
[19:36] <rivermonk> not familiar with abiword.  open/libreoffice is still available for download, right?  my resource limits are not so much HDD space, as RAM (2GB max) and (presumable) bus speed
[19:36] <wxl> yes
[19:36] <wxl> and actually that's a fair amount of RAM
[19:36] <wxl> lubuntu can run on as little as 256MB
[19:37] <wxl> but again, a lighter weight footprint will allow you to do more
[19:37] <wxl> that said, i'd advise lubuntu
[19:37] <wxl> also, i really like it :)
[19:37] <wxl> i run it on a machine that i could easily run anything on. i don't NEED it. but it works well for me
[19:37] <wxl> i mean lubuntu doesn't have a bunch of desktop effects, but that doesn't really add to my productivity, so that's a simple "compromise" to make
[19:38] <rivermonk> may just have to give Lubuntu a try on a donated (previously MS Windows Vista-blechch) mini-laptop.  I appreciate your opinion
[19:38] <wxl> no problem
[19:38] <wxl> feel free to come back here if you have any questions or concerns and we can help you sort them out
[19:38] <wxl> there's also the mailing list (see the topic)
[19:38] <rivermonk> with the next LTS coming out 18-04, will Lubuntu follow in a few months, ya think?
[19:38] <wxl> yes
[19:39] <wxl> Lubuntu (and Xubuntu and Kubuntu and all the other flavors provided by Canonical) *IS* Ubuntu, just modified. So we work on the same schedules
[19:39] <wxl> i.e. all those flavors some out at the same exact time
[19:40] <rivermonk> sweet.  I'll give L a try.  haven't heard about K, guess I'll try and research that flavor, as well
[19:40] <wxl> it's definitely heavier weight
[19:40] <wxl> waaaaaaay more feature rich, but you pay for it
[19:41] <wxl> you can think of it like this: regardless of your windows system, assuming they build for each version, you can run any software
[19:41] <wxl> but xp is definitely lighter than 10
[19:41] <wxl> we're more like xp and kubuntu/ubuntu are more like 10
[19:41] <wxl> the analogy fails in that xp is old whereas lubuntu is not. it's just simpler by design
[19:41] <rivermonk> yeah, I agree, I still miss the simplicity of XP... but not the networking difficulties
[19:42] <wxl> then i think you'll be very much at home with lubuntu
[19:42] <rivermonk> oic your point
[21:10] <wasabi> test
[21:10] <tsimonq2> wasabi: test 1 2
[21:15] <wasabi> newly installed Lubuntu on old machine and Abiword flashes like epilepsy
[21:16] <wasabi> 2 gb RAM on some weird 64bit single-core Intel
[21:24] <soundee> I have a problem with graphics drawing to button labels in praat speech analysis program
[21:25] <soundee> I guess you should see the screenshot. I am using lubuntu 16.04 with compton as a compositor. The problem occurs also without any compositor
[21:25] <soundee> https://imgur.com/a/YYK6L
[21:35] <tsimonq2> wasabi: It's fixed in 17.10, fix is coming for previous releases
[23:22] <korn788> hello i can't get my wifi working in 17.04 i can see it in the term but not showing up in networkmanger
[23:22] <korn788> it was working just fine in kali linux