[00:01] Shivam Dubey was added by: Shivam Dubey [00:05] @Shivam Dubey, Big welcome to you, Shivam. [00:05] @wayneoutthere, Thanks [00:11] @Schyken, yes. she knows she is bad. knowing is half the battle. [00:26] Project daily-hammerhead build #342: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-hammerhead/342/ [00:28] Project ota-push build #1120: SUCCESS in 2 min 0 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1120/ [00:36] QQ: Does "legacy" mean the device isn't going to get the 16.04 update? Specifically the N4 [00:36] yes [00:36] That's what it means [00:37] 👍 [00:38] @UniversalSuperBox, 👎 [00:38] It's been a long while since I've been in here... Is the OPO 100% or does it still have some issues with bluetooth and camera? I think those were the sticking points... I can't remember... [00:39] Camera works, but Bluetooth has issues across the board. Any specific issue you were thinking of? [00:39] And yeah I saw it's marked 100% on the website but I also remember there was some discussion about that... [00:40] Nothing specific, just trying to decide which device to pick up if I were to replace my N4. I suppose that's my question. [00:40] N5 seems to be very popular [00:41] The Nexus 5 has HDMI out so you can do convergence without the annoyance of Miracast [00:41] N5 is very popular, because it's a great phone comapred to newer phones at the same price [00:41] @Russ B, N6P even more popular. ;_; [00:41] I had an n6p. Didn't care for it. Not great battery and bent in my pocket. Twice. [00:42] But anywho, of the core devices Fairphone isn't really in my scope, so it was between the OPO and N5 [00:42] @Russ B, Wew. *_* [00:42] Since I know asking "what's the best xxx" is just flame bait [00:42] Like N5 used to be a very expensive phone but google subsidized it, so it was always $200, despite having specs of a $600 phone. the price hasn't dropped much because it still competes with $200 phones in most ways [00:44] But still, $200 is expensive in India. ;_; [00:48] @Zephoro, I want indian prices :( [00:48] Project ota-push-rc build #1: FAILURE in 0.93 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push-rc/1/ [00:48] @wayneoutthere, ;_; [00:49] You tried, ubports_bot. [00:49] Lol. [00:49] @UniversalSuperBox Where should I start with working on bullhead? [00:49] @UniversalSuperBox you were the one working on it right? [00:49] At one point. There's a Halium build now. [00:50] I can't test it because I need my 5X. [00:50] Oh, so I should start with their build? [00:50] Yes, but see these bugs... digs [00:50] bugs are just excuses to have more fun:D [00:50] t [00:50] u [00:50] https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20is%3Aopen%20bullhead [00:50] if it weren't for bugs programming would be fast and easy [00:51] @Xorpad, True. [00:51] and if it was easy I wouldn't enjoy it [00:51] the reason I do the stuff I do is because it's hard and forces me to adapt and grow [00:51] What's your Github? [00:52] it's almost empty, because I have private stuff on gitlab, but my nick on github is zerorax, so I think it's github.com/zerorax [00:53] It's mostly stuff I don't care if people steal... All my stuff I want to use in my portfolio stays private [00:54] I wish I used github starting long ago, so that I wouldn't have lost my whole portfolio through a series of stupid mistakes [00:55] If i didn't lose all my code, i'd have 3 OS's, 2 competed and one a work in progress, and i'd have a c compiler [00:55] along with tons of random stuff I did as learning projects [00:56] I should make another C compiler... the world needs more C compilers(j/k) [00:57] Nah, needs faster Python interpreters though. :P [00:57] on my private gitlab i'm working on a 2.7 python -> arm elf binary compiler [00:58] Project ota-push-rc build #2: ABORTED in 8 min 16 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push-rc/2/ [00:58] which could make it's way into this project depending how devoted I get to it [00:58] But 2.7 though. :( [00:58] app programming in python would make building up an app market's selection faster and more contributiors [00:59] Dalton: 2.7 is stable, there will be no changes to the way it works [00:59] Yeah [00:59] 3.x is changing [00:59] it's not got a stable API [00:59] also, I defeated the GIL:P [01:00] Luckily the most fun parts of 3 also work in 2 [01:00] Except the bytes to unicode thing that I fail to understand 90% of the time [01:00] I prefer 2.7 personally. but 3 has some cool stuff in it [01:00] like f strings [01:01] I really don't see a reason to adopt 3, it's slower because everything is more abstracted [01:01] oh wait we're off topic [01:01] move to OT? [01:01] yup [01:32] Yippee, build fixed! [01:32] Project ota-push-rc build #3: FIXED in 5 min 36 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push-rc/3/ [01:32] Ya did it @mariogrip [01:35] Exciting things are happening 🤔 [01:37] @UniversalSuperBox, YAY :D [01:37] @nfsprodriver, Rc weekly promotion [01:38] it works, now i can go to bed [01:38] The true reward [01:38] Yes! :D [01:38] Ah, okay. Just to mention (don't know why) my last hammerhead update had about 230MB. [01:39] devel? [01:39] Deltas are weird [01:39] (I updated recently to latest daily build before) [01:39] Yes. [01:40] Yeah, im aware for that, i need to add a check for changes to the android trings, since now it build them daily and since android is in a image the delta will just check the image file if that's different, and if it is, it will replace the whole file [01:41] (hint: it's always different) [01:41] I don't think Android is reproducible [01:41] so 4 days of detas is 55mb * 4 ish [01:42] but since android is so big, i need to find a smart way to check for differences [01:42] git? [01:42] yeah, but they are split across 100+ repos [01:43] `repo foreach`? [01:43] Maybe it could do something [01:43] yeah, but how can i compeare that to yesterdays build [01:44] could push all logs into a file, then next day to the same to another file and do a diff those two [01:44] anyway, bedtime :) [03:24] (Photo, 800x628) https://irc.ubports.com/17HHcPac/file_1001.jpg [03:24] lets try this again [03:28] @samzn, Is that Qt or GTK? [03:28] Electron :( [03:29] Ah k [03:29] Not as bad as GTK [04:01] Okay. I'm ready to work on something finally [04:15] is there any reason updating one of my new bullheads to oreo to check it out would mess with my ability to use ubport on it? [04:15] like does anything oreo OTA updates does to the phone mess things up? [04:16] does it have maybe like an incompatible bootloader or mess with hidden partitons ubports relies on? [04:28] Rumen Tsvetkov was added by: Rumen Tsvetkov [04:32] @Xorpad Might me better question on Halium group. [04:32] hello Rumen [04:32] sure @Ern_st [04:33] Hi all, can you tell me how to install ubports ubuntu touch on nexus 5 with multirom? [04:33] Multirom isnt supported [04:33] You can try efidroid [04:36] reviving and improving multirom is on the list of projects I plan to work on realted to this project [04:36] I already have the sources downloaded [04:36] is efidroid support nexus5? [04:36] but I haven't done much work on them yet [04:37] multirom supports nexus 5, but you need to do some hackish things to get ubports to work with it, I have an idea of how you could but I haven't tried doing it, it's just a got theoretical solution [04:37] ok, thanks. [04:38] I hope to get multirom working on all the nexus and pixel devices in the near future [04:38] I have most fo them already [04:39] Efidroid is likely more future proof [04:39] But any solution is welcome [04:40] samzn: but I like supporting EOL devices [04:41] Ya [04:41] Like, I don't think phones should stop getting support for much longer than the market gives them now [04:42] Efidroid should keep stable with any future paradigm shifts that might happen in the community [04:42] I'm also considering making my own bootloader to replace androids, and repartitoning one of my nexus 5's to have a more linux-like setup [04:42] While multirom needs constant maintenance [04:43] Would be dope if you manage to make your own aboot [04:43] Well, i know how to make it, I just haven't done it yet [04:43] bootloader for an arm system is the simplest thing I can think of doing that is realted to os dev [04:44] unlike x86 bootloaders [04:44] which are hard to make without using hackish tricks to bypass limitations imposed by the system [04:45] It's all ring 0 [04:45] yeah, and I've made my own multi-boot bootloader for my old raspberry pi to load my toy kernel [04:46] arm devices just boot the first data on the main storage device [04:46] unless they are uboot enabled [04:46] the reason I am not already doing it or done doing it, is because if I mess up I brick the device in question [04:47] If you have skill in bootloader development you should really contact @morpheus______ on twitter [04:47] why? [04:48] He's working alongside a team to finish the missing parts of the recently released XNU kernel on ARM [04:48] I see [04:49] Seems like the perfect chance to land a nice job at any tech firm with that in your portfolio [04:49] well, i've already got more plans for stuff to do for ubports than I can handle [04:50] Like, there's already dozens of things I want to do soon, and hundreds of things I'd like to do eventually [04:50] I know exactly how it is [04:50] Shame I'm overcumbered with work from university already [04:51] Like, while I was on the bus today, I was working on an algorithm to use dictionary based error prediction on the keyboad so we can make it more compact while not decreasing usability [04:51] I've not got it completely worked out, but it's half way there in terms of logic/pseudo code [04:52] with this, the keyboard could be made much smaller while still being easy to type accurately [04:52] by detecting how far from the key you pressed and the possibilities for which word you are trying to type [04:55] And maybe I'll add a feature where it learns a persons typing mistakes and tendencies to improve accuracy and correction over time with use [04:55] But I just don't like how bulky the current keyboard is, and it's easy to typo because there's nothing to improve accuracy [04:56] okay enough chatting, time to get to work [06:26] @Flohack The dots on a translation. Should they be like this in german: [...] gespeichert … … or [...] gespeichert... which is closer to the original and not a special char. [06:37] @twinkybot, Erm. Hu can you send me a link? I always put them without a blank TBH [06:53] @Flohack they are scattered all over. One example is messaging app - 105 ../src/qml/ComposeBar.qml:424 [06:54] @Flohack anything new with Telegram? when Supergroups will be supported? :P [06:55] @vanyasem, I have only 10 toes to step on ;) [06:55] @twinkybot, Well just judge by yourself, we do not have real guidelines for that. Or discuss it in the Localization forum =) [06:56] @vanyasem, Im a bit stuck now since the upgrade to Supergroups needs database changes, and an in-place db upgrader. I need to do this carefully to not break every devices db [06:56] @Flohack okay. Was doing anyways. Just wanted to be sure. [06:56] :) [06:56] :P [06:58] Just didn't want to be presumptuous [06:58] Nono you are part of the community, so you can shape it, too ^^ [07:01] Project click-import build #16: SUCCESS in 4.5 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/click-import/16/ [07:01] Project vivid-rootfs-armhf build #151: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/vivid-rootfs-armhf/151/ [07:01] Project ota-push build #1121: SUCCESS in 1 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1121/ [07:55] Hello everybody. I have a brief question. I heard, that one can choose between stable, RC und dev somewhere in the systemsettings. Where do I do that? [07:56] You can chose after updating from the initial install to the next version, it will add the option to chose an update channel [07:56] and then you can update to the latest images of that channel once you are able to select it [07:57] Ah alright. So it is an option at the next systemupdate. dont have to care about that for now. [07:57] Yes, unless you flashing using a tool that lets you select a channel to do your initial install from [07:58] like magic-device-tool, has the options to flash channels other than legacy, but they are commented out in all the scritps so you have to uncomment them [07:58] ok, thank you very much! [08:00] Good morning everyone. I have a few questions [08:01] M how are you and what is the questions? [08:02] First i want to know if there is any workaround for Tune In. And second, I am a bit stupid but with the Telegram app I am not seeing the UBports group online [08:02] Good good thanks. Ready to go to work [08:03] is the group different from this chat? I don't really know telegram other than that I installed it and got invited here [08:04] I have two groups in my telegram. None of them are showing in my N5 with telegram (I am now in another phone) [08:05] And there is not search in UBports yet I think [08:06] If I try to join from the web using the telegram group link does nothing [08:12] I use telegram on pc and android, i don't have it on touch [08:14] Touch I use for testing and playing around mostly [08:14] @M D, They are supergroups. Sadly we are still not supporting them in UT [08:19] Thanks for the rc7 [08:19] Thank you Florian :) . I appreciate your answer [08:19] Is there a change log? [08:21] One last last before I go. uNav is not working very well for me here in the CZ. Any plans to have the location services working in the browser? [08:21] (With google maps is not working for me) [08:22] Location service should work in the browser, just it takes ages to initialize sometimes [08:22] @kristijantkalec, Changelog for rc? no sorry [08:23] is there a change log for devel and stable? [08:23] Thank you I will keep trying. Have a great day everyone. [08:23] they seem like they should have one more than RC should [08:23] Project daily-fp2 build #360: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/360/ [08:23] devel so devs know what's changes, stable so users do [08:25] Project ota-push build #1122: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1122/ [08:27] @Flohack, Ok. Thanks for the answer. Can I see the progress somewhere? Github? [08:28] OTA-3 will be tracked here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/6 [08:28] Look then for the closed items coming up ;) [08:31] hi, is there a way to build twrp without an android build tree? [09:24] @Davy, OTA2 so the current version, rather than the next. The option is hidden away at the bottom, maybe to deter users who probably should stick with stable 😃 [09:25] @M D, It is a supergroup and those are not supported in the UBports app. You can see it in the web version though === allizom1 is now known as allizom [11:13] I've just tried to start an X app in a libertine container, however, the OSK is not opening. The OSK works with Libreoffice and Thunderbird but it doesn't open when starting iPython Qtconsole. Do you have a workaround for this issue? [11:23] @Guido, i think i lnow why, but cant test it now [11:24] u see libertine normally is used for gtk apps and osk integration is provided by maliit packages for gtk3 and gtk2 [11:24] but you are using qt [11:24] so u need to add maliit package for the qt and for the version u use [11:25] phone itself (Mir) uses modified version 5 of QT [11:29] for example for gtk if u wanted to run app on the phone directly not in Libertine, you would need to install these: … sudo apt-get -q -y install maliit-inputcontext-gtk3 maliit-inputcontext-gtk2 [11:30] ypur app is in libertine and uses qt so tey finding maliit package that suits it [11:30] maliit-inputcontext-qt4 or something [11:30] just search and see what is available [11:31] sudo apt-cache search maliit-inputcontext-* [11:31] @KrisJacewicz, You don't need sudo for a cache search [11:32] true! === allizom1 is now known as allizom [11:41] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/I3Kb0AZY/file_1003.jpg [11:41] To ser supergroup install web telegram [11:43] Ah, thanks for all the hints. I will try to install a qt version of maliit. If this does not work, there is also the option of a gtk console of ipyhton, I guess. [11:49] @Guido, that should worknout of the box. also u canninstall python in the phone directly not in Libertine or any other container and use qt there. [11:49] just check if u hv enough free space on your / partition [11:50]