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lhc_..03:29
usr_ello03:58
usr_hello03:58
usr_anyone here?03:58
diogenes_yes03:59
usr_ok i have a question03:59
diogenes_no way04:00
usr_i'm using 16.04 and my trackpad works great, but when i tried using 17.10 my trackpad was basically unusable04:00
usr_any idea why?04:00
diogenes_driver issue04:01
usr_yea, i know, but what did they change regarding the drivers?04:01
diogenes_maybe this can help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop#Touchpad04:03
usr_that's for arch04:04
diogenes_that's for linux in general04:04
usr_well04:05
usr_for some reason my trackpad works well in 16.04 in Mate, poorly in 17.10 Mate, and well in Gnome Arch Linux04:06
diogenes_I think it's a conspiracy theory04:07
wavrydranyone here04:28
diogenes_not sure04:30
wavrydrlol04:31
wavrydri was wondering when my version's update cycle expires then do i have to backup my data and install the latest version or can i just upgrade?04:32
wavrydrdiogenes_, you there04:32
diogenes_I'd recommend to upgrade only to lts04:33
wavrydroh ok thanks04:34
diogenes_yw04:34
wavrydrdiogenes_, how do i find out what version i have04:46
diogenes_in terminal run: lsb_release -a04:49
wavrydrok thanks04:50
wavrydryeah i have 16.04.304:52
wavrydrlts04:52
diogenes_great04:53
wavrydryep thanks04:55
LangjanLet's try once more: my problem in Ubuntu Mate 16.04 is that I cannot figure out how to configure the keyboard to make special characters (ë, â etc.) via the compose key.10:05
alkisgLangjan: what's the output of this? setxkbmap -query | nc termbin.com 999910:15
Langjan_Hi everyone, I managed to log in and found a message about my problem with special characters but had to connect via my laptop to respond and now I don't see my message and cannot identify the sender10:48
Langjan_He asked for an output10:49
LangjanMy problem is that I cannot configure my system to produce special characters via the compose key10:55
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RaspberryPiHello15:36
TimAppleHowdy15:50
Something1I set up Ubuntu Mate today in much less than an hour, maybe 30 min, being not too familiar with Ubuntu, it´s all working great and it looks so integrated, like this screenshot! https://i.imgur.com/1QTXwix.png15:57
Something1Went to Google about the compositors, and had to install tlp while I heard it came preinstalled, but very happy with it! Thanks devs!15:59
gogabougahello guys, any idea for reading pdc files on linux?16:00
gogabougai cannot find anything on goolge16:00
Something1There´s a pdf viewer already. You can also open them up with the browser16:01
gogabougano pdf16:02
gogabougapdc16:02
nemohad to look that one up16:06
nemosome DRM crap it seem16:06
nemos16:06
nemohttps://fileinfo.com/extension/pdc16:06
nemogogabouga: gonna say... wine.16:08
nemohttps://www.locklizard.com/download_pdf_viewers/16:08
nemocould also try one of those apk converters for linux for the android one I guess16:09
nemoor. just avoid DRM crap16:09
Something1Locklizard has a web viewer. I think it´s more something to talk to the relevant person (manager, IT, publisher, whoever got you that), than to mess around with shady apps regardless of platform...16:13
uofm49426why does it take almost 9 minutes to go from grub to login screen on 17.0416:15
diogenes_uofm49426, you have to run in terminal: systemd-analyze blame16:16
nemoSomething1: interesting. web viewers are much easier to manipulate than desktop apps16:18
nemoSomething1: normally screenshotting still works, something that's now impossible w/ DRM on OSX.16:19
nemothankfully there's still so much legacy out there that DRM pushers aren't requiring secure enclaves yet16:19
Something1Yeah it´s not going to stop anyone. Just use NDAs like normal companies16:21
uofm49426what she i see with systemd16:22
Something1Can you make a screenshot and upload it to imgur or something, uofm49426 ?16:23
uofm49426the 992ms lightdm 1.170 network.service is that messurement of load time16:27
Something1Yes, that means it takes 1 second to load lightdm. It should also give some totals at the top, like ¨10s (kernel)¨16:27
uofm49426so it took keyboard-setup.sevice to dev-sda5.device from 6.723s to 12.274s16:31
diogenes_uofm49426, is it laptop desktop?16:33
uofm49426its a x200t thinkpad16:33
diogenes_go to bios and check if it's ide or ahci16:34
uofm49426ahci16:34
diogenes_is it a new frash install?16:36
uofm49426yes16:36
diogenes_what OS you been using previously?16:36
uofm49426its kind off universal problem xubuntu and ubuntu-mate 17.04 my last normal everyday os is 16.04 xubuntu ive use mate 16.04 also16:38
diogenes_so it happens with all the distros?16:39
uofm49426yes16:39
diogenes_you have to say a huge thank you to lenovo, it's literally their politics, to make linux troublesome on their machines16:40
diogenes_I've had huge troubles with linux on every single lenovo that I been working with16:40
diogenes_whereas none, zero troubles with other manufacturers16:41
uofm49426i think its a problem with the change from swap part to swapfile16:41
diogenes_it doesn't matter if you say it's the same result on any distro16:41
uofm4942616.04 boots fine16:42
uofm49426is there a way to boot without swap on to see if it is a swap probldem16:44
diogenes_run in terminal: cat /etc/fstab paste the output to some pastebin and share the link here16:46
alkisguofm49426: run `dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999` to show us the boot proces16:47
alkisg...or journalctl | nc termbin.com 999916:49
uofm49426http://termbin.com/ks4h16:53
Something1diogenes_, thinkpads work great with Linux though..16:54
diogenes_Something1, ibm ones work great,16:55
uofm49426some of the earlier lenovo thinkpads where good too16:56
uofm49426if you go to termbin.com/67k3 is my systemd analyze17:07
alkisguofm49426: I don't see any delays in those17:09
alkisgWhere are you seeing delays, in autologin?17:09
alkisgAfter login issues show up in ~/.xsession-errors17:10
uofm49426when i alt tab the slash screen in boot it will say top left corner i /dev/sda5 clean xxxxxx/xxxxx number and will pause for like 7 minutes17:13
alkisgDo you have autologin enabled?17:13
uofm49426no17:13
alkisgThat just happens to be the last visible message17:13
alkisgSo after those 7 minutes, you see lightdm prompt for login?17:13
alkisgAlso try it again with no ethernet connected, to verify it's not related to dns timeouts etc17:14
uofm49426no ill do a record using my phone and post on youtube what it does before i go back to 16.04 im not connected to ethernet i use my cell phone easytether for my internet17:17
uofm49426then ill do a recording booting 16.04 to show its not a hardware problem17:18
uofm49426i have to get going now truck driver .17:20
uofm49426have great day17:21
Something1Shouldn´t there be a whole bootlog in the journal? Maybe just upload that? Anyone know how to get that for uofm49426?17:50
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Something1Que tal?22:29

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