[00:39] afternoon everyone [00:50] hola [00:50] spanish ? [00:50] !es [00:50] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [03:29] .. [03:58] ello [03:58] hello [03:58] anyone here? [03:59] yes [03:59] ok i have a question [04:00] no way [04:00] i'm using 16.04 and my trackpad works great, but when i tried using 17.10 my trackpad was basically unusable [04:00] any idea why? [04:01] driver issue [04:01] yea, i know, but what did they change regarding the drivers? [04:03] maybe this can help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop#Touchpad [04:04] that's for arch [04:04] that's for linux in general [04:05] well [04:06] for some reason my trackpad works well in 16.04 in Mate, poorly in 17.10 Mate, and well in Gnome Arch Linux [04:07] I think it's a conspiracy theory [04:28] anyone here [04:30] not sure [04:31] lol [04:32] i was wondering when my version's update cycle expires then do i have to backup my data and install the latest version or can i just upgrade? [04:32] diogenes_, you there [04:33] I'd recommend to upgrade only to lts [04:34] oh ok thanks [04:34] yw [04:46] diogenes_, how do i find out what version i have [04:49] in terminal run: lsb_release -a [04:50] ok thanks [04:52] yeah i have 16.04.3 [04:52] lts [04:53] great [04:55] yep thanks [10:05] Let's try once more: my problem in Ubuntu Mate 16.04 is that I cannot figure out how to configure the keyboard to make special characters (ë, â etc.) via the compose key. [10:15] Langjan: what's the output of this? setxkbmap -query | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:48] Hi everyone, I managed to log in and found a message about my problem with special characters but had to connect via my laptop to respond and now I don't see my message and cannot identify the sender [10:49] He asked for an output [10:55] My problem is that I cannot configure my system to produce special characters via the compose key === noel is now known as Guest61953 [13:50] hey === pi__ is now known as RaspberryPi [15:36] Hello [15:50] Howdy [15:57] I set up Ubuntu Mate today in much less than an hour, maybe 30 min, being not too familiar with Ubuntu, it´s all working great and it looks so integrated, like this screenshot! https://i.imgur.com/1QTXwix.png [15:59] Went to Google about the compositors, and had to install tlp while I heard it came preinstalled, but very happy with it! Thanks devs! [16:00] hello guys, any idea for reading pdc files on linux? [16:00] i cannot find anything on goolge [16:01] There´s a pdf viewer already. You can also open them up with the browser [16:02] no pdf [16:02] pdc [16:06] had to look that one up [16:06] some DRM crap it seem [16:06] s [16:06] https://fileinfo.com/extension/pdc [16:08] gogabouga: gonna say... wine. [16:08] https://www.locklizard.com/download_pdf_viewers/ [16:09] could also try one of those apk converters for linux for the android one I guess [16:09] or. just avoid DRM crap [16:13] Locklizard has a web viewer. I think it´s more something to talk to the relevant person (manager, IT, publisher, whoever got you that), than to mess around with shady apps regardless of platform... [16:15] why does it take almost 9 minutes to go from grub to login screen on 17.04 [16:16] uofm49426, you have to run in terminal: systemd-analyze blame [16:18] Something1: interesting. web viewers are much easier to manipulate than desktop apps [16:19] Something1: normally screenshotting still works, something that's now impossible w/ DRM on OSX. [16:19] thankfully there's still so much legacy out there that DRM pushers aren't requiring secure enclaves yet [16:21] Yeah it´s not going to stop anyone. Just use NDAs like normal companies [16:22] what she i see with systemd [16:23] Can you make a screenshot and upload it to imgur or something, uofm49426 ? [16:27] the 992ms lightdm 1.170 network.service is that messurement of load time [16:27] Yes, that means it takes 1 second to load lightdm. It should also give some totals at the top, like ¨10s (kernel)¨ [16:31] so it took keyboard-setup.sevice to dev-sda5.device from 6.723s to 12.274s [16:33] uofm49426, is it laptop desktop? [16:33] its a x200t thinkpad [16:34] go to bios and check if it's ide or ahci [16:34] ahci [16:36] is it a new frash install? [16:36] yes [16:36] what OS you been using previously? [16:38] its kind off universal problem xubuntu and ubuntu-mate 17.04 my last normal everyday os is 16.04 xubuntu ive use mate 16.04 also [16:39] so it happens with all the distros? [16:39] yes [16:40] you have to say a huge thank you to lenovo, it's literally their politics, to make linux troublesome on their machines [16:40] I've had huge troubles with linux on every single lenovo that I been working with [16:41] whereas none, zero troubles with other manufacturers [16:41] i think its a problem with the change from swap part to swapfile [16:41] it doesn't matter if you say it's the same result on any distro [16:42] 16.04 boots fine [16:44] is there a way to boot without swap on to see if it is a swap probldem [16:46] run in terminal: cat /etc/fstab paste the output to some pastebin and share the link here [16:47] uofm49426: run `dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999` to show us the boot proces [16:49] ...or journalctl | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:53] http://termbin.com/ks4h [16:54] diogenes_, thinkpads work great with Linux though.. [16:55] Something1, ibm ones work great, [16:56] some of the earlier lenovo thinkpads where good too [17:07] if you go to termbin.com/67k3 is my systemd analyze [17:09] uofm49426: I don't see any delays in those [17:09] Where are you seeing delays, in autologin? [17:10] After login issues show up in ~/.xsession-errors [17:13] when i alt tab the slash screen in boot it will say top left corner i /dev/sda5 clean xxxxxx/xxxxx number and will pause for like 7 minutes [17:13] Do you have autologin enabled? [17:13] no [17:13] That just happens to be the last visible message [17:13] So after those 7 minutes, you see lightdm prompt for login? [17:14] Also try it again with no ethernet connected, to verify it's not related to dns timeouts etc [17:17] no ill do a record using my phone and post on youtube what it does before i go back to 16.04 im not connected to ethernet i use my cell phone easytether for my internet [17:18] then ill do a recording booting 16.04 to show its not a hardware problem [17:20] i have to get going now truck driver . [17:21] have great day [17:50] Shouldn´t there be a whole bootlog in the journal? Maybe just upload that? Anyone know how to get that for uofm49426? [21:42] HOLAÇ [22:29] Que tal?