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clypbcowan that's i used ls -a -l and got it all and just nano'd the output to the textfile00:00
clypthanks*00:00
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kevc45After upgrading my server to Ubuntu 16.04. Most of my services don't work anymore (apache2, mysql, phpmyadmin, fail2ban) (fail to start). Where do I even start? What logs should I be looking at?00:38
Bashing-omkevc45: Initiation/scripts have changed in systemd, see : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .00:41
kevc45@Bashing-om I heard. But how do I migrate?00:54
kevc45Shouldn't that be something that's done when you upgrade to 16.04.00:54
nacckevc45: what did you upgrade from?00:55
kevc45nacc: I started this adventure on 12.04 (EOL) -> ?? (used do-release-upgrade) -> 16.0400:59
Bashing-omkevc45: See the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . Follow up : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bug/1571865 .01:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1571865 in mysql-5.7 (Ubuntu Xenial) "mysql fails to start after upgrade if previous defaults were customised" [High,Fix released]01:16
Hooloovo0I am installing ubuntu from a PXE booted mini.iso and grub-install is failing01:27
Hooloovo0I believe it thinks it booted from efi, but that is not the case01:27
web_devhi01:27
web_devinstalled apache 2.4 by compiling by myself01:28
web_devthe only way i found to start it was: sudo /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start01:28
web_devthere is another one?01:28
web_devif i write apache2 or httpd in shell, nothing found01:28
mattflyyo02:04
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mattflyhello02:06
mattflyi changed the resolution of my screen after wine messed with it using xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --mode 1366x76802:06
mattflybut now every program i open gets a weird font size02:06
mattflya too small font size02:07
mattflywhat is happening? how to just get the default settings like after boot02:07
mattflyi have a nvidia with propretary drivers installed02:07
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Bashing-ommattfly: Use a set up wizard ? ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup '  It would guide you through the steps to choose a font and font-size.02:13
Bashing-om the new settings will be effective after reboot. To apply immediately, just run:02:13
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Bashing-om' setupcon ' .02:13
mattflyi didnt mean only for consol02:14
mattflyhave u ever tried to play a game on wine? it messes up your screen resolution02:14
mattflythen i had to run xrandr to sovle this02:14
mattflybut every pŕogram i open and specially browsers have such a small font size now for some reason02:14
Bashing-ommattfly: unity ?02:16
mattflyno i302:16
mattflyi3 window manager02:16
mattflyno DE02:16
mattflyisnt there a way to make xrandr set all default things?02:16
mattflyhey!!!02:18
mattflyi have the problem only with browsers02:18
mattflywhat the helll is that02:18
mattflywhat a stupid thing02:19
Bashing-ommanacit: Maybe try : https://askubuntu.com/questions/440958/is-there-any-way-to-set-the-display-scaling-back-to-default-other-than-from-the .02:23
AnthaasIs there a way to, like, re-format Ubuntu to a clean install?02:32
AnthaasDoes it need a live disk?02:33
Bashing-omAnthaas: "re-format Ubuntu to a clean install?" is a backup data and a clean fresh install .02:35
wavrydri have a question02:36
Bashing-om!asl | wavrydr02:36
ubottuwavrydr: Most of us don't speak American Sign Language; please try English instead. ✌02:36
Bashing-om!ask | wavrydr02:36
ubottuwavrydr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:36
wavrydrif a new version comes out do i have to bakup my data and do a clean install or can i just upgrade02:36
wavrydroh my bad sorry02:37
Bashing-om!upgade | wavrydr02:37
Anthaaswavrydr, Its smart to backup before upgrading, but there is no necessity...02:37
Bashing-om!upgrade | wavrydr02:37
ubottuwavrydr: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade02:37
lotuspsychjewavrydr: /home is saved, depending on what you do exactly02:37
jayzeSo I have a couple of questions if anyone might know where to point me in the right direction. I am trying to setup suspend on close lid for my laptop, but only when on battery power. When on cord, I just want it to keep running as this is normally when I am hooked up with my docking station.02:56
lotuspsychjejayze: in normal case, energy options in ubuntu should be managing hibernate03:01
jayzeTrue but I was hoping for more granular control of behavior between plugged in and on battery power.03:02
jayzeI have used linux off and on for many years. I finally have a dedicated machine that I can run linux on fulltime again. However it is a laptop that I am using for school. I actually got a docking station for it and plan to use both modes.03:03
lotuspsychjejayze: perhaps playing with dconf-editor can bring more tweaking?03:03
jayzeReally happy with how mature linux and ubuntu have come.03:03
jayzeI never have used dconf-editor before but I might give that a try.03:04
lotuspsychjejayze: yeah ubuntu is very neat these days03:04
lotuspsychje!info laptop-mode-tools | jayze maybe more tweaking here also03:04
ubottujayze maybe more tweaking here also: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70-2ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 80 kB, installed size 367 kB03:04
jayzeah! thank you. That might help me alot03:05
lotuspsychjejayze: wich ubuntu version did you have?03:05
jayzeI am actually running ardvark.03:05
jayzeI know its not release yet but I felt it was close enough.03:06
jayzeI will be probably making another install on the laptop of LTS sharing the same homedirectory structure for my personal files just for peace of mind.03:06
jayzethe laptop is not anything much except for the fact that it has plenty of ram and a nice big ssd.03:06
jayzelenovo t430, but it was in perfect condition with the 1600x900lcd and it was free to me.03:07
jayzejust had to provide an ssd :P03:07
jayzeyep, looks like dconf-editor was it03:09
lotuspsychjejayze: for 17.10 you can idle in #ubuntu+1 for issues mate03:11
jayzek :P03:11
jayzeOnly been up on the machine since this afternoon but it seems quite stable.03:12
yookoalaWith 0 person in #ubuntu+1, where can I get help with Ubuntu 17.10?03:26
yookoalaI want to report an issue, but event #ubuntu-bugs won't help it.03:27
yookoalaI'm totally confused.03:27
christian_do you have a detailed procedure on how to install dnscrypt-proxy?03:39
nergarhello03:39
yookoala!ask | nergar03:49
ubottunergar: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:49
kristhiananother question, how do i know if i am using eth0 or eth1?03:54
kristhiancan i do it just by typing ifconfig?03:54
nergarHello, how do I know if tomcat8 package in ubuntu uses systemd or sysinit?03:55
nergarim using xenial 16.0403:55
Bashing-omkristhian: ' ip link ls ' will tell what link is active .03:58
kristhianthank you03:59
kristhiananyways what does 'lo' means?03:59
Bashing-omkristhian: the local loop - internal link .04:00
yookoalanergar: Look for tomcat* in /etc/init.d. If there is such file, then your tomcat package is sysinit.04:00
yookoalanergar: If you have it installed already.04:00
nergaryookoala: yup, it is indeed in init.d but xenial uses systemd does it not? what do I do now?04:02
yookoalanergar: When using systemctl command to control services, it will fallback to sysinit script if a service file of the name is not found.04:03
nergarneat!04:04
nergarand when are the packages updated to use systemd? just curious bout how dev side works04:05
yookoalanergar: I'm not sure :-P.  I guess it would probably remove the rc script and install the systemd unit file.04:06
yookoalanergar: if you do a dist-ugrade.04:07
yookoalanergar: I'm talking about my exprience with Ubuntu and other distro with systemd. Not sure how it works underneath.04:08
nergarI see04:10
wavrydranyone here04:29
lotuspsychjeyes04:29
wavrydroh hey there04:29
wavrydri was wondering when my version's updates period expires, do i have to install the latest version or can i just upgrade to the latest version?04:30
wavrydrlotuspsychje, you there04:32
lotuspsychjewavrydr: wich version?04:33
wavrydri have ubuntu mate 16.04 lts04:33
Bashing-om!do-release-upgrade | wavrydr04:33
wavrydrin terminal you mean?04:34
glitsj16wavrydr: you're good untill April 2021 with that04:34
wavrydri thought it was april 201804:34
wavrydrglitsj16, ?04:34
Bashing-omwavrydr: ^^ and yes the upgrade path does exist .04:35
glitsj16not with 16.04 LTS, are you sure that's what you have?04:35
wavrydri have whatever the newest version of mate is04:35
wavrydrthe lts version04:35
wavrydri may be stating that incorrectly04:35
wavrydrlet me check the version04:35
jayzeLTS versions last a nice long time if you dont feel like upgrading out of them.04:35
Bashing-omwavrydr: Terminal command ' lsb_release -a ' .04:36
glitsj16might be handy if the release time info was in that04:37
wavrydrthanks Bashing-om04:37
wavrydrhow do i find out which version i have04:45
Bashing-omwavrydr: The Desktop environment? ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION ' .04:49
wavrydrok thanks04:50
wavrydri was looking but coudn't find it04:50
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vernhttps://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life04:52
wavrydri have 16.04.3 lts04:52
wavrydrthats what i thought04:52
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sara2010hi05:07
sara2010any one help me05:07
sara2010by mistake i rm these /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/shadow-05:08
sara2010i los my all data05:08
sara2010how do i recover05:08
sara2010plz help me05:08
glitsj16restore your backup05:08
alkisgsara2010: check in /var/backups05:09
alkisgThere should be backups there05:09
lotuspsychjealkisg: did you get your ibus issue straight?05:10
alkisglotuspsychje: the dependencies issue? Yeah I used aptitude and removed them, but I haven't yet learned if it's possible to do the same thing with plain apt.05:11
* alkisg waves btw :)05:11
lotuspsychjehey :p05:11
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sara2010how to restore backup files05:12
jayzeBtw: lotuspsychje thanks for the tip about dconf. I was able to tune a few other things that had been bothering me as well.05:12
jayzePowerful tool that dconf05:12
alkisgsara2010: are you in the booted system now? Or are you using a live cd?05:12
lotuspsychje!yay | jayze05:13
ubottujayze: Glad you made it! :-)05:13
sara2010alkisg .. i have put HDD in secondery05:13
alkisgsara2010: so you have a second ubuntu and you booted from the second ubuntu?05:14
sara2010alkisg .. yes05:14
alkisgDo you know how to access the old partition? Like e.g. in /media/sara/Ubuntu/etc ?05:14
sara2010alkisg .. yes i know very well ..05:15
alkisgOK, do you see a /media/sara/Ubuntu/var/backups folder? Does it have passwd.bak there?05:15
sara2010alkisg .. there is media/sara/ nothing in sara05:18
alkisgsara2010: then you don't know how to access the second disk...05:18
sara2010alkisg .. sara is empty05:18
alkisgsara2010: what's the output of this command? sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 999905:19
sara2010alkisg .. there is 2 partition in one is /home  one is /root05:20
alkisgsara2010: can't help without the output of that command05:20
sara2010alkisg .. in /home i got sara and all my data05:21
sara2010alkisg .. okay letme give you output of command05:21
sara2010alkisg. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684174/05:26
alkisgsara2010: it's two - there, not one05:27
alkisglsblk --fs vs lsblk -fs05:27
sara2010alkisg .. i got backups in /var05:29
alkisgOK, copy those then05:29
sara2010i should give access 1st05:29
sara2010should i copy in /medai/sara/05:30
alkisgsara2010: I can't tell you more if you don't give the output of that command: sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 999905:31
alkisgBecause now I don't know if you are booted in a second installation, in a live cd etc05:31
sara2010alkisg . already i give you output05:32
sara2010alkisg. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684174/05:32
alkisgsara2010: you typed it wrong05:32
alkisgYou put one - instead of two --05:32
sara2010okay05:34
sara2010http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684191/05:35
westonHi all. During booting, I could not see the grub menu..it directly boots to the new kernel I installed. How can I stop at grub and select my other kernel?05:36
Bashing-omsara2010: Slow dowm and think; alkisg may posibly get you through this :)05:36
sara2010Bashing-om.  hmmmm05:37
sara2010alkisg . http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684191/05:37
alkisgsara2010: nice. Now can you give the output of this command? ls /media/*/etc/*sha* | nc termbin.com 999905:38
alkisgYou don't need to put it to pastebin.ubuntu.com, you can paste it here05:38
alkisgIt's only one line05:38
Bashing-omweston: EFI system, as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key . legacy; depress and hold a shift key .05:38
westonBashing-om: I am using legacy boot and not UEFI05:39
alkisgweston: hold down left shift while booting05:39
Bashing-omweston: As soon as the bios screen clears . depress a shift key ,05:39
westonBashing-om: ok let me try05:39
westonBashing-om: how can I avoid so that, it will show grub always?05:40
Bashing-om!Grub | weston05:40
ubottuweston: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:40
sara2010alkisg  f3ck505:41
sara2010alkisg . http://termbin.com/f3ck505:42
alkisgsara2010: so, this disk does have shadow. Where did you delete shadow from?05:42
alkisgsara2010: Ah sorry this is the backup05:42
Bashing-omweston: ^^ make an edit to the /etc/default/grub file . - remember to run 'sudo update-grub ' to propogate the change .05:42
westonBashing-om: What I need to edit?05:42
alkisgsara2010: ok, now try this: cd /media/92af4d1a-295e-41fa-8c55-2dc3471b6602/etc/; for f in passwd group shadow gshadow; do sudo cp -a ${f}- $f; done05:43
alkisgsara2010: then reboot in your primary installation05:43
Bashing-omweston: #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 ; GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true .05:45
westonBashing-om: it is like that only05:45
westonI checked now05:45
sara2010alkisg . okay05:46
westonBashing-om: ohh..should I comment both?05:47
westonNow it is un-commented.05:47
Bashing-omweston: "GRUB_DEFAULT=0" what number do you have set .. and what entry do you want as the default ?05:48
weston005:48
sara2010alkisg ...  there is no user showing to login only guest05:48
westonI have both 4.10-rc and 4.6 kernel05:48
weston4.10 new05:48
westonand I need to select while booting05:48
jayzeexit05:49
alkisgsara2010: can you login as guest?05:49
alkisgsara2010: maybe you misstyped something again...05:49
sara2010i give this command . cd /media/92af4d1a-295e-41fa-8c55-2dc3471b6602/etc/; for f in passwd group shadow gshadow; do sudo cp -a ${f}- $f; done05:50
westonBashing-om: Thank you. I got it working. I disabled both lines and now I could select in grub during booting05:55
Bashing-omweston: :)05:58
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alkisgIf I right click on any flash applet in firefox 56, it crashes. It worked fine in firefox 55. Does right click in flash work fine for anyone in firefox 56?06:11
alkisgE.g. right click there: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/about/06:11
hateballalkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1720908 ?06:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1720908 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox cannot load Flash because of libxul broken dependency" [Undecided,Fix released]06:19
hateballoh nm, applets actually load for you06:19
alkisghateball: yes I reported both issues to chriscoulson and he fixed the one you linked, but not the other one06:19
hateballalkisg: but it is mentioned here I see06:19
alkisgSo I wanted to verify it happens for everyone before I ping him again06:20
westonBashing-om: Thank you so much.06:20
Bashing-omweston: np, glad you got it sorted .06:21
glitsj16alkisg: Chris already enterd a fix upstream for the context issue, see the last 2 comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/172090806:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1720908 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox cannot load Flash because of libxul broken dependency" [Undecided,Fix released]06:25
alkisgglitsj16: thanks, I haven't seen the last comment from chris06:45
jmft2Hi, is it possible to 'upgrade' my install of Xubuntu 16.04 32bit to a 64bit install, but keeping my packages, files, &c.? I didn't put my /home and /usr directories onto a separate partition when I first installed07:14
Ben64jmft2: not really07:15
ducassejmft2: realistically, you need to reinstall07:16
jmft2ducasse: Yep, but wouldn't that wipe my /home and /usr?07:17
Ben64thats what backups are for07:17
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ducasseback up /home, why would you need to save /usr?07:17
Ben64also, export a list of installed packages07:17
Ben64then you could just install those afterwards07:17
ducassecheck out apt-clone07:17
jmft2ducasse: cheers07:19
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SteristI'm having issues shrinking an unmounted ext4 within an extended partition... gparted doesn't specify an error number or type07:58
Steristwould a gparted live cd be able to do anything that gparted on the live ubuntu installer can't?08:00
ZiolaBleuIs there anyone online?08:15
SteristGoogle seems to suggest a swap partition is interfering with ext4 resize, anyone know how to safely discard swap?08:16
onlaWhy my chrome cant play this video eventhough it can play some other flash videos https://www.nrk.no/mr/sja-direkte-fra-mannen-1.1201265108:16
onlaworkin for ou?08:16
SwedeMikeSterist: you can use the "swapoff <device>" command to turn off swap. You can see active swap partitions by doing "cat /proc/swaps"08:16
ZiolaBleuI'm doing a group project with two foreigners who don't speak English and on top of that they don't even speak the same languages. They have contributed nothing and because of them, I'm going to fail this project if I don't get it done by the 10th. Is there any way someone could help me?08:17
ducasseZiolaBleu: wrong channel08:18
onlait's a live stream of a fucking kilometer long mountain going to collapse any time soon, and now my linux is blocking me to see it08:18
ZiolaBleuI know it's the wrong channel I just don't know where else to go08:18
bazhangonla, no cursing here08:18
ducasseZiolaBleu: then ask in #freenode08:18
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onlacan I say *curses*08:29
bazhangonla, what version of ubuntu is this08:30
onla14.0408:30
jmft2What's the best way to restore a Mac's Time Machine backup onto a Ubuntu machine?08:37
jmft2I've been using fuse-time-machine (https://github.com/isnotajoke/fuse-time-machine) but some of the files copied over — always binaries, not text files — are corrupted. It appears there's a problem with line breaks08:38
Steristis there a root command that won't make nautilus take ownership? or more specifically, for editing /etc/fstab08:39
jmft2wc says:08:40
jmft26847   37332 1730610 file_on_time_machine_volume08:40
jmft26956   37790 1730610 copied_over_file08:40
lindbergioDo anyone know if it would be possible to change the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.orientation active' key system wide and not only for a specific user? This a GNOME thing.08:40
danieledhi all08:51
muriiwhere is the location of man's directory?08:56
alkisgI'm trying to download the source of linux-image 4.8 to compare it with 4.10, but both of them get me 4.10. Example:08:59
alkisgapt source linux-image-4.8.0-58-generic => Skipping already downloaded file 'linux-hwe_4.10.0-35.39~16.04.1.dsc'08:59
alkisgWhere can I find the 4.8 kernel source?08:59
buzoHi. How can I draw the maintainer's attention to bug 1713638?09:07
ubottubug 1713638 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "bcmwl-kernel-source 6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu1~1.1: bcmwl kernel module failed to build [error: ‘struct net_device’ has no member named ‘last_rx’]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171363809:07
buzoThere seems to be an easy fix available, or maybe it is even fixed upstream already.09:07
buzoOr should I ask in #ubuntu-kernel?09:08
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ducassebuzo: best thing to do is to add a comment with a link to the fix you're talking about09:30
solarshi, is there a way to check the syntax of /etc/crontab?09:35
buzoducasse: I've done that already.09:36
Steristis it ever necessary to leave a small amount of unallocated space between partitions?09:36
buzoducasse: There is also a patch attached since 2017-09-17.09:36
alkisgSterist: not unless the previous one is misaligned. Use gparted and it'll do the correct thing.09:37
ducassebuzo: ok, then the maintainer will look at that when he/she can09:37
Steristrighto. thanks09:37
buzoducasse: But the bug is unassigned.09:38
buzoAnd it makes kernel 4.11 unusable.09:39
ducasse4.11 is not used in any ubuntu release09:40
buzoducasse: Wrong. I'm running 16.04 and get it from the package linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04-edge.09:41
buzoBut maybe the edge is too bleeding … ;)09:43
RonaldsMazitissomething is wrong with chromium for ubuntu using openbox09:43
RonaldsMazitissometimes it starts to zoom in or out on scroll09:43
RonaldsMazitismakes impossible to write text in any programm09:44
RonaldsMazitis+ can't get right click on screen09:44
RonaldsMazitisfeels like09:44
Hanumaanhow to repair segmentation fault core dumped python problem in ubuntu09:45
Ben64Hanumaan: fix your python code09:45
ducassebuzo: interesting, i thought that was on .13 now. still, you can't really do anything to get your bug report more attention, other than hoping others with the same problem comment on it.09:46
Ben64buzo: ha, i'm the dude who submitted the patch, use it!09:47
RonaldsMazitisI could not write text in quassel irc client09:48
RonaldsMazitisso I had to quit it09:48
RonaldsMazitisfeels like viruses on ubuntu09:48
RonaldsMazitisor something09:48
RonaldsMazitismesses with keyboard and mouse09:48
ProktoHi, I'm having issues with unattended installation. Is there a good channel to ask questions about this topic?09:59
alkisgHere is fine10:00
ProktoAlright, thanks. I'm running into an issue where the installation is interupted by an error. I can continue the installation by manually hitting continue twice and the installation finishes succesfully with a working system at the end. The only discernable error I can find looks like this: https://pastebin.com/C8f1jUfn10:04
ProktoI'm not sure what I can do to influence in the installation to the point that this error comes up even though this isn't an issue whatsoever in another repository of ours.10:07
ProktoIt complaining that udev is not started confounds me since it's in a chroot and this is, I assume, a step that debootstrap always takes10:08
ProktoIs there a way to increase log verbosity during installation?10:10
dchotasHello guys, on a fresh 17.04 install here and my wireless card seems to be hanging my computer on restart/shutdown. The hang doesn't occur if I'm connected via cable of if my wireless card is turned off altogether. Can anyone help me figure this out and try to fix it?10:10
alkisgProkto: do you know about policy wrappers that disable service restarts in chroots?10:12
alkisgProkto: first google hit is this: https://jpetazzo.github.io/2013/10/06/policy-rc-d-do-not-start-services-automatically/, to get you going. Some services are clever enough to not run in chroots, for others you need this policy wrapper10:14
ducassedchotas: which chipset is this?10:15
timkofuhi10:16
timkofuI have made a package with checkinstall10:16
timkofubut the deb is binary only10:16
timkofuhow can i make a "dev" deb?10:16
Proktoalkisg, No, I haven't heard of that before. I'll read into it, thank you very much.10:16
alkisgnp10:16
dchotasducasse, qca937710:17
ducassedchotas: then not sure, sorry. you could try an older/later kernel.10:19
timkofuanyone?10:21
buzoBen64: Do you have a .deb with that? I just patched the installed version and run «dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source», but I guess this gets overwritten by the next update.10:21
buzotimkofu: Did you try «apt-get source ‹package›» ?10:23
Steristthe problems never end. now grub won't start. "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found" I know what caused this, and I know how to get past it, but once I'm booted up I don't know how to make the fix permanent10:23
Steristset root=hd0,msdos5 and set prefix=($root)/boot/grub then insmod normal and insmod will make it load grub10:25
SteristI boot ubuntu, run sudo update-grub and it goes thru without errors, but after reboot it's the same problem.10:25
Steristwhen I deleted my swap partition sda5 the other partitions 6 and 7 became 5 and 6, so grub is probably looking in 610:27
Steristanyone know how I can make it stick?10:33
SimonNLSterist: I'm not sure but I think you should have ended that line with normal not with insmod10:38
SimonNLinsmod normal, normal10:38
Steristyes typo, that's what I did lol10:39
SimonNLokay10:39
Steriststill hammering my keyboard for a solution =/ if anyone has ideas I'd love to hear em10:40
SimonNLSterist: #grub  you could try there as well.10:41
arunkumar413my ubuntu is lazy10:42
arunkumar413how do i troubleshoot it10:42
thneeWhen searching for how to force all traffic through a vpn, the recommendation is the remove the existing default gw and add a new one. But how will the VPN itself work if all traffic is routed through the VPN?10:51
BluesKajHey folks10:54
Steristwould reinstalling grub have potential to cause now problems?10:56
Steristbtw I did check with the grub channel, still no responses :(10:56
dchotasHey BluesKaj o/11:00
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BluesKajhi dchotas11:01
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arunkumar413lspci | grep VGA commands returns two cotrollers11:11
arunkumar413which one should I use and install the drivers for11:11
BluesKajarunkumar413, pastebin your lspci output so we can have a look11:13
arunkumar413BluesKaj: https://pastebin.com/uR7yykAR11:14
arunkumar413BluesKaj: seems like AMD has not released the drivers for 16.04 Ubuntu11:16
BluesKajarunkumar413, is this a desktop or laptop?11:21
arunkumar413BluesKaj: laptop11:21
BluesKajhmm, seems you have some kind of hybrid gpu system which I've never seen before11:22
arunkumar413BluesKaj: may be one is a processor builtin and another is an external graphic card11:26
BluesKajcheck the additional drivers manager11:28
computer2000How can I see when this package has been updated for the last time? Package: libxinerama1 (2:1.1.3-1)11:30
brokencodesarunkumar413: You have an APU style GPU / CPU setup11:32
brokencodesneed to install FGLRX11:32
buzocomputer2000: see /var/log/apt/history.log*11:32
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BluesKajbrokencodes, we know what he has, just needs to install from the additional drivers11:33
brokencodesletting him know he doesnt have a hybrid11:34
brokencodesits an APU11:34
arunkumar413BluesKaj: what should I do now11:35
brokencodesin the additional drivers dialog, you should see the option to install amdgpu drivers11:36
brokencodesin 17* fglrx was depricated, in favor of amdgpu / radeon11:36
BluesKajinstall the recommended driver/fglrx from the additional drivers manager , https://askubuntu.com/questions/856478/radeon-hd-7500m-7600m-series-drivers-for-ubuntu11:37
BluesKajarunkumar413,^11:37
arunkumar413BluesKaj: the additional driver doesn't list the drivers11:37
brokencodesBluesKaj: FGLRX is not available in Ubuntu 17+11:37
BluesKajyeah, amdgpu seems to ahve replaced it11:38
brokencodesamdgpu is not auto selected11:38
brokencodeshe will have to open terminal, and install with apt-get11:38
BluesKajarunkumar413, are you on 16.04?11:39
arunkumar413BluesKaj: yes11:39
brokencodeswonderful11:39
brokencodessucks, because trident gen2 is not supported before kernel 4.1011:40
brokencodesarunkumar413, have you updated ubuntu with update manager in the last 5-6 months?11:41
BluesKajarunkumar413, open a console , sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu11:41
brokencodes16.04 its apt-get11:41
BluesKajno it isn'11:41
brokencodescheck my credentials please11:42
BluesKajapt install has been around for over 3 yrs11:44
brokencodeswill produce the following when you do it... just say yes...11:45
brokencodesThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:    gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common libavahi-glib1    libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcanberra0 libgconf-2-4 libgconf2-4    libgnome2-0 libgnome2-bin libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0    libgnomevfs2-common libidl-common libidl0 libntdb1 liborbit-2-0 liborbit2    libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a11:45
brokencodesmysql-server-core-5.6 openjdk-8-jdk-headless    sound-theme-freedesktop  Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  The following extra packages will be installed:    libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1    libdrm2 libepoxy0 libgbm1-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial libllvm3.8v4    libxkbfile1 x11-xkb-utils xfonts-base xserver-common    xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenia11:45
brokencodesl  Suggested packages:    xfs xserver xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable firmware-amd-graphics  The following packages will be REMOVED:    libgl1-mesa-dri  The following NEW packages will be installed:    libdrm-amdgpu1 libepoxy0 libgbm1-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial    libllvm3.8v4 libxkbfile1 x11-xkb-utils xfonts-base xserver-common    xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xo11:45
brokencodesrg-video-amdgpu-lts-xenial  The following packages will be upgraded:    libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm211:45
brokencodesignore my part about installed packages...11:46
BluesKajnice flood there...you dhould know better if you're so cnowledgeable, brokencodes11:47
brokencodeswas a single line.11:47
BluesKajknowledgeable11:47
BluesKajyeah sureL11:48
brokencodeslook at it... its a single line. I remove all 63 \r and \n11:49
arunkumar413BluesKaj: apt install or apt-get,,,?11:49
BluesKajyou can use either one11:50
arunkumar413BluesKaj: got a message that there are unmet dependencies11:51
brokencodesyou must do apt update first11:51
brokencodessudo apt update11:51
BluesKajarunkumar413, have you updated and upgraded lately?11:52
arunkumar413BluesKaj: yes11:52
BluesKajnot just updated but upgraded as well11:52
arunkumar413i update it regularly11:52
brokencodesin SF it is 8 to 511:52
brokencodesto be sure, please do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade11:53
Proktoalkisg, I added a debian package to the installation which creates the policy-rc.d file under /usr/sbin/ like I read in that link you posted however it is installed after the package that is causing the issue. Is there a way to specify the order in which the programs are installed?11:54
brokencodesrename the deb files, so the first one has a 1 in the beginning of the name, second has 2... and the like11:55
oerhekshilarious answer ..11:56
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brokencodesthat changes the order of dpkg --install *.deb... but I guess I missed the context of the question11:57
oerhekshe thinks a debian package on ubuntu is not the cause of his issue11:58
brokencodes...11:58
arunkumar413BluesKaj: brokencodes, updated, upgraded and ran the command but still getting the unmet dependency error:11:59
arunkumar413 xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu :11:59
arunkumar413Depends: xorg-video-abi-2011:59
arunkumar413 Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902)11:59
arunkumar413under additional drivers it says unknown: unknown this device is using an alternate driver12:00
Proktobrokencodes, The context is that during an unattended installation plymouth complains that it cannot be started since udev is not running. This is all happening in a chroot so it can't start the service anyway. policy-rc.d tells the system not to start the service. I need my debian package that contains policy-rc.d to be installed before the other plymouth at least.12:00
ProktoThe problem is that the unattended installation throws an error during the base system installation that a package could not be configured hence making the unattended installation an attended installation.12:00
BluesKajarunkumar413, run sudo apt full-upgrade12:01
brokencodeswhat is the error thrown?12:01
arunkumar413BluesKaj: I want to use 16.04 only as it's a LTS12:02
arunkumar413don12:02
arunkumar413dont want to upgrade the os12:02
brokencodesfull-upgrade is not dist-upgrade12:02
Prokto"Debootstrap warning - Warning: Failure while configuring required packages." The only discernable error I can find looks like this: https://pastebin.com/C8f1jUfn12:02
brokencodesBluesKaj is correct, that will force upgrade packages held back, including Xorg-core12:03
BluesKajarunkumar413,  full upgrade only upgrades all packages, not the OS release, do-release-upgrade does that12:03
oerheksProkto, policy-rc.d is part of the sysv-rc package, why the debian package?12:03
arunkumar413BluesKaj: did full upgrade but still the same error12:03
arunkumar413unmet dependencies12:03
BluesKajarunkumar413, try installing xserver-xorg-core12:04
Proktooerheks, good question. I have very little idea how I'm supposed to do this best so I'll take a look at that.12:04
brokencodesyou could remove plymouth12:05
brokencodesProkto: you could remove plymouth12:06
arunkumar413BluesKaj: installed the xserver org  core12:07
brokencodesnow do the previous12:07
BluesKajno errors arunkumar413 ?12:07
arunkumar413no erros12:07
brokencodesarunkumar413: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu12:08
oerheksseems like you give random answers to random people, brokencodes, please don't.12:08
BluesKajok now install the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu12:08
arunkumar413BluesKaj: done12:08
arunkumar413should I run the update command again to install the driver from additional drivers12:08
brokencodesoerheks: how is it that you think my answer was random?12:09
BluesKajarunkumar413, did you install the amdgpu ?12:09
arunkumar413BluesKaj: yes12:09
BluesKajthen reboot12:09
oerhekswe appreciate volunteers, but this was not helpfull at all, remove plymouth?12:10
brokencodesoerheks: Plymouth only supplies a graphical boot.12:10
ProktoThat is an option we're considering as a workaround. It is not necessary for us.12:12
brokencodesoerheks: later after he resolves his issue, he can simply reinstall plymouth12:12
ioriabrokencodes, please run this simulation :  apt-get -s remove plymouth12:14
brokencodesoerheks: although I still cannot understand why anyone would want to install a debian package in an ubuntu distrubution... similar, yes, but different enough to become a nightmare later12:14
brokencodesiora, I dont have to, I dont run plymouth / plymouthd on any of my systems...12:15
ioriabrokencodes,  ok, so half of your x-system will be removed12:15
brokencodeswindows here, but ubuntu on all my workstations / servers12:15
ioriabrokencodes,  so, please don't recommend it12:16
brokencodesumm...12:17
brokencodesmore than just one way to do what I said...12:17
Proktothis is a server installation. No gui is needed whatsoever. however apparently mountall requires plymouth.12:18
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arunkumar413BluesKaj: it got stuck at the login screen12:20
arunkumar413Nothing responds12:21
brokencodesarunkumar413: is the login screen blinking?12:21
arunkumar413brokencodes: no12:21
ProktoThe devices this is meant for do not communicate with the outside world. We pull the packages and create and iso with all packages we need including some from our own repo.12:21
arunkumar413BluesKaj: how to switch to console n roll back the driver12:23
brokencodesCTRL+ALT+F312:24
brokencodes^ arunkumar41312:24
BluesKaj!nomodeset | arunkumar41312:24
ubottuarunkumar413: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:24
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Proktobrokencodes, I'm going to try renaming the debian package to see if that gets the package installed first. We need a permanent fix but a hotfix would allow us to work so I'm gonna give it a try. Quick and easy to test.12:26
brokencodesIf it works, its because of my random nonsensical answer...12:28
arunkumar413BluesKaj: it's not switching to console12:28
brokencodesarunkumar413: CTRL+ALT+F312:28
arunkumar413Yes I did press that12:29
arunkumar413Nothing happens12:29
arunkumar413The screen is freezed12:29
brokencodesdo you have a FN button on this laptop?12:29
arunkumar413At the login12:29
arunkumar413Yes have fn button12:29
brokencodesCTRL+ALT+FN+F312:30
arunkumar413Its hp g6 notebook12:30
arunkumar413brokencodes: nothing happened12:30
brokencodesok12:30
brokencodesarunkumar413: reboot and on grub menu select ubuntu rescue mode...12:31
arunkumar413How do i select on boot12:31
arunkumar413I don't see any option while booting12:31
brokencodesarunkumar413: do you have grub menu at all?12:31
arunkumar413I don't know12:31
brokencodesarunkumar413: is your home directory encrypted?12:32
BluesKajarunkumar413, ok try the rescue mode in grub if you grub isnn't auto boting theOS12:32
arunkumar413How do I know it now. It's not responding12:32
IhrFusselDoes performance decrease if I append lines to a very long file vs a short file? Let's say 5 million lines vs 1 million ... is there a difference?12:32
BluesKajauto booting12:32
brokencodesarunkumar413: to reboot, hold power for 6-10 seconds...12:32
arunkumar413BluesKaj: how do i gomto rescue mode while booting12:33
brokencodesarunkumar413: if you shutdown ubuntu incorrectly, like I'm telling you to... it should give boot options menu, from grub12:33
BluesKajhold the left shift key down right  after the post/bios page12:34
BluesKajarunkumar413,^12:34
brokencodesIhrFussel: yes, in some cases it can, it depends how you are appending... for instance one tool I run, using nohup can create a file over 80MB in size, and it slows down... but it's not always so... it depends how the file is written12:37
IhrFusselbrokencodes, in my case the log file gets written by a c++ file handler12:38
brokencodesIhrFussel: best answer I can give is sometimes.12:40
brokencodesIhrFussel: as I dont know how the file handler is "handling" the file12:40
brokencodesarunkumar413: are you still here?12:41
arunkumar413brokencodes: it's not going to console12:42
brokencodeswhile the PC is booting, hold right shift key12:43
brokencodesarunkumar413: sorry, left shift key12:43
arunkumar413brokencodes: i tried both keys12:44
arunkumar413Going into gui12:44
brokencodesok12:44
brokencodesarunkumar413: this time, try repeatedly and quickly hitting the left shift key after powerup...12:45
brokencodesarunkumar413: so turn it on, wait 1/2 second... and repeatedly and quickly press the left shift key12:45
IhrFusselIIRC it works with Esc12:46
brokencodesarunkumar413^^^ also try12:46
brokencodesarunkumar413: I dont remember if fglrx-amdcccle is available in ubuntu 16.0412:48
brokencodesarunkumar413: it appears to be...12:48
arunkumar413But now its noy even going into console to rollback the driver12:49
brokencodesarunkumar413: we may have to use liveCD12:49
arunkumar413brokencodes: i don't have a live cs12:50
arunkumar413Cd12:50
brokencodesarunkumar413: have a usb stick?12:50
arunkumar413brokencodes: no12:50
brokencodesarunkumar413: did you try ESC ?12:51
arunkumar413Yes, i takes to boot options12:52
brokencodesgood12:52
brokencodesdoes boot options screen say "ubuntu" on it?12:53
arunkumar413brokencodes: but while installing I didn't create a recovery partition12:53
brokencodesarunkumar413: thats fine...12:53
arunkumar413Pressing f9 gives me two ubuntu options12:54
brokencodeswhat options are those?12:54
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EdAnwpIb/irccloudcapture-1521563030.jpg12:54
brokencodesselect either of those, and immediately start pressing esc after pressing enter...12:55
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CMg1dCYS/irccloudcapture-1110226055.jpg12:55
brokencodesshould give you menu12:56
brokencodesadvanced system options for ubuntu12:56
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jZSbJmH8/irccloudcapture-1045908143.jpg12:57
brokencodes3rd line says recovery mode12:57
arunkumar413Not sure why there r so many same entries12:57
brokencodesselect it and hit enter12:57
brokencodesbecause there is an entry for every kernel installed12:57
arunkumar413Selected recovery. Hope it will load12:58
brokencodesit will12:58
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tKZq0ihr/irccloudcapture969000526.jpg12:58
brokencodesdrop to root shell prompt12:58
brokencodesOr you can chose run in failsafeX12:59
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vegombreihi, whats a good free VPN i could use with ubuntu?13:01
brokencodesprovider? or application?13:01
oerheksVPN is already in networkmanager13:01
brokencodesexactly13:02
vegombreiim guessing both ?13:02
oerheksvegombrei, we are not the yellow pages, just technical support.13:02
vegombreiso how do i set it up13:02
brokencodesneed to know what kind of vpn you have subscribed to... before anyone here can help...13:03
arunkumar413brokencodes: in root shell now13:03
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html13:03
vegombreioerheks: big deal if someone can answer and help me here how does it matter if youre a peon ?13:03
brokencodesarunkumar413: apt install fglrx-amdcccle13:03
oerheksvegombrei, sure, that would be technical support13:04
vegombreiwell thanks13:04
oerhekswe just don't advise on providers13:04
vegombreiah13:04
brokencodesvegombrei: no one here can help you set up a vpn until you have selected a provider...13:04
arunkumar413After going to root sheel it again went back to recovery menu and is not responding13:04
brokencodesarunkumar413: well, we have to hard boot and catch the boot again...13:05
vegombreii understand but i need to have an option of providers, as of now i dont know any providers , im reading up on that link its got information13:05
brokencodesarunkumar413: catch it with f9, select ubuntu, and smash the esc key fast fast again13:05
arunkumar413brokencodes: pressed f913:06
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Njj5X7IE/irccloudcapture-326438751.jpg13:06
brokencodesarunkumar413: top line13:07
brokencodesvegombrei: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vpn+providers+supporting+ubuntu13:07
brokencodesarunkumar413: be sure to catch the boot with esc13:07
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HAoJmBfF/irccloudcapture-1236807371.jpg13:07
brokencodesarunkumar413: advanced options13:08
vegombreibrokencodes: thanks13:08
eternoWe extreme the dangeroud13:09
oerhekslmgtfy is against the channel policy13:09
vegombreibtw you guys should know im beginning to think vpn doesnt really work, well with movie sites etc mebbe but ive been trying vpns on my mac and trying to set up a new gmail account and somehow vpn doesnt work they know my location now im trying thru my ubuntu desktop13:09
brokencodesoerheks: so is calling you a peon...13:09
eternoCheck brpwser apps13:10
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2fNc7Jwy/irccloudcapture-573074689.jpg13:10
eternoBrowser apps for vpn13:10
brokencodeswith VPN providers, you get what you pay for...13:10
brokencodesarunkumar413: yes13:10
vegombreiLOL that peon part was a typo13:11
vegombreii actually meant to type bot13:11
vegombreidunno how that happened13:11
brokencodesFreudian slip13:11
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1kCQkrVW/irccloudcapture-2143625386.jpg13:12
brokencodesarunkumar413: yes13:12
vegombreiyou know one of em bots that kick you out if you chat abusive or something13:12
arunkumar413I selected rootshell but again it came back to this screen13:12
oerheks!coc | brokencodes, please read this,  you are starting to get annoying13:12
ubottubrokencodes, please read this,  you are starting to get annoying: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv13:12
brokencodesnext time select failsafeX13:12
BluesKajarunkumar413, you nay need to eenable networking first before you update/upgrade/install remove anything with apt13:14
vegombreihey is there like an underground ubuntu channel where one can talk all kinds of illegal stuff and hacking etc ??13:14
arunkumar413brokencodes: we removed the driver not sure if failsafe x works13:14
BluesKajvegombrei, nope13:14
brokencodesoerheks: I was sticking up for you, attempting not to be rude, and slam the door in the face of someone clearly wanting help from us to pirate movies, and stay within the guidelines... I forgot the lmgtfy thing, but really? Annoying?13:14
oerheksvegombrei,  not on #freenode13:15
brokencodesarunkumar413: failsafex should use the vga driver.13:15
arunkumar413this screen is lazy not responding to arrow keys https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QUZS2x6N/irccloudcapture1216946178.jpg13:15
brokencodesarunkumar413: hopefully BluesKaj can help you, I unfortunately have to step down, as some of the others in here have a problem with me...13:17
BluesKajsorry arunkumar413, i had some connection troubles here .. trying to figure out what you've done13:17
brokencodesarunkumar413: I sincerely wish you luck13:18
* vegombrei well should we make one ??13:18
arunkumar413brokencodes: :(13:18
BluesKajvegombrei, stop this illegal stuff, it's not supported here, then go away13:18
brokencodesBluesKaj: amdgpu doesnt work for him, he needs fglrx-amdcccle, he unfortunately is having issues getting to root shell, and doesnt have an ubuntu live CD nor USB stick to work with13:18
brokencodesBluesKaj: I suggested failsafeX and thats where we were... also of misfortune, is the fact that after the first selection he has to reboot to regain control13:20
arunkumar413BluesKaj: trying to get into the root shell to install the correct driver13:20
BluesKajouinds like an xorg problem if his mouse isn't responding13:20
brokencodesBluesKaj: in order to get to rescue, he has to catch boot with F9, select one of his raid volumes (seems mirrored with llvm), and immediately start hitting ESC, because LFT Shift doesnt work13:21
brokencodesI will leave, because I somehow annoy oerheks.13:21
arunkumar413this sceen is lazy nor responding to arrow keys https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VdBbwMVy/irccloudcapture1731432289.jpg13:21
vegombreibrokencodes: awwww13:22
BluesKajarunkumar413, yes I saw that13:22
brokencodesBluesKaj: I hope i brought you up to speed.13:22
ghost-287is there an alternative to teamviewer?13:23
BluesKajhmm lvm/raid is a different story, but live media to help this situation , arunkumar413 think you need a live image to work with here13:24
brokencodesghost-287: tightVNC / Remote Desktop13:24
brokencodesBluesKaj: he has simple raid... its simply mirrored13:24
ghost-287thank you i ll try this13:24
brokencodesBluesKaj: any questions before I leave? I think I covered everything...13:26
BluesKajwell if the arrowe keys aren't responding then xorg is somehow affected13:26
arunkumar413BluesKaj: in the root shell now13:26
brokencodesarunkumar413: apt install fglrx-amdcccle13:26
ghost-287brokencodes, c est  xtightvncviewer  ??13:28
ghost-287brokencodes, oupss, it s xtightvncviewer ?13:28
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GLrT1v9Q/irccloudcapture696415645.jpg13:28
brokencodesyes13:28
BluesKajarunkumar413, do you have networking then install fglrx-amdcccle13:28
ghost-287ty13:28
arunkumar413Unable to locate package13:28
arunkumar413Is it connected to internet13:28
brokencodesyou have to enable networking13:29
brokencodesare you using wifi?13:29
oerheksfglrx-amdcccle is old, xserver-xorg-video-radeon is current13:29
arunkumar413brokencodes: yes i have WiFi13:29
arunkumar413How do i connect13:30
brokencodesoerheks: he has apu / trident 213:30
arunkumar413brokencodes: ifconfig command doesn't show WiFi device13:32
brokencodesubuntu stopped supporting this APU in 2015... officially... Radeon HD driver works, but overworks the fans.13:32
brokencodesarunkumar413: you will need to start networking service with the "Start networking" option in recovery menu13:33
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bzdXzMYM/irccloudcapture-269827815.jpg13:33
BluesKajthanks for the heads up oerheks, my knowledge about amd driver is rather linited, I see it's limited to trusty 14.0413:33
brokencodesoerheks: BluesKaj: refer to the following: https://community.amd.com/thread/21022213:35
oerhekstrident is really old indeed, xserver-xorg-video-trident should have been installed AFAIK13:35
brokencodesno... not trident VGA... Trident APU... he has AMD A10, or A12, with Radeon HD 7650m13:35
brokencodesit's Trident 2 archetecture from AMD13:36
arunkumar413brokencodes: its amd A813:36
brokencodessame13:36
brokencodesits APU13:36
brokencodesI have a G7 here with the same beaver Family 15 chip in it...13:36
oerheksah, my bad, i didn't catch that with all the previous attempts13:36
brokencodesI can get him up and running, but believe me, I'm not trying to annoy anyone13:37
arunkumar413selected networking in recovery options https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/O5oWKZpH/irccloudcapture-1068828537.jpg13:37
arunkumar413It's taking lot of time13:38
arunkumar413Cant i enable networking from command line13:39
brokencodeswe gonna do something new13:39
arunkumar413Okay13:40
brokencodeshold power till it dies, and boot up same as last time, with F913:40
BluesKaj /etc/resolv.conf seems to ahve a problem there13:40
brokencodeshit esc after selecting the top line of the boot menu13:40
brokencodesBluesKaj: network cant write to disk, because RO13:41
BluesKajno kidding13:41
arunkumar413brokencodes:  should i select advanced options13:42
brokencodesno13:42
brokencodesput cursor on top of ubuntu and press e13:42
arunkumar413System setup?13:42
brokencodessend me screen shot13:42
arunkumar413Okay13:42
brokencodeswe will force text boot13:43
arunkumar413Im in some set params screen13:44
brokencodesshow please13:44
brokencodesalmost there, I promise13:44
arunkumar413https://photos.app.goo.gl/67sATCJut30Z8FnE213:46
arunkumar413I reached the irc app upload limit. Sharing from google photos13:46
brokencodesgive me a minute13:46
skinuxnginx error log says /var/www/html is forbidden....?13:46
zarzari think i wrecked my ubuntu vm by remove libxml* packages, gnome was relying on some libxml i think, any idea how to recover?13:49
zarzari think i wrecked my ubuntu vm by remove libxml* packages, gnome was relying on some libxml i think, any idea how to recover?13:49
zarzarsorry for repeqat13:49
brokencodesok13:52
arunkumar413:)13:52
brokencodesreboot the machine13:52
arunkumar413:(13:53
brokencodeswe have to do this in perfect order13:53
arunkumar413Ok13:53
brokencodesf9 catch the boot13:53
brokencodesthen top line of boot menu, then immediately press esc13:53
arunkumar413On the top line13:54
brokencodesto let you know, I perposely broke my machine, so I could help you fix yours13:54
brokencodespurposely...13:54
arunkumar413Should I press enter and escape13:54
brokencodesyes13:54
arunkumar413Or just escape13:54
brokencodesenter, then escape escape escape13:54
brokencodeslike last 3 times13:54
arunkumar413In the grub screen now13:55
brokencodeswe go to older kernel13:55
brokencodesso second recovery screen13:55
brokencodessecond recovery option in advanced13:55
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/j4ZA05Oa/irccloudcapture-658761537.jpg13:55
gsharp_I want to install Ubuntu in my laptop...Currently I am using Windows 10 64bit (Legacy) and have MBR partitioned. What should be the best approach. Thanks for the help in advanced :)13:55
brokencodes?13:56
arunkumar413U told press enter n esc13:56
brokencodes...13:56
brokencodesin boot menu (bios boot selection from F9, select top line with enter, then press escape several times till ubuntu grub menu shows13:57
arunkumar413Should i go to advanced options n select older kernel13:57
brokencodesyes13:58
brokencodesolder kernel, recovery13:58
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3JB4mhYq/irccloudcapture1577948834.jpg13:58
arunkumar413Okay. Which kernel13:58
brokencodesbottom line13:58
arunkumar413Now in recovery menu13:59
arunkumar413Root shell?13:59
brokencodesnetwork enable first13:59
brokencodesthen second, failsafeX13:59
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wc2La9DN/irccloudcapture-1892534435.jpg14:00
arunkumar413Selected network enable getting this message14:00
brokencodesI know14:01
brokencodessee if you can CTRL+ALT+F3 and get a console14:01
arunkumar413A blank screen with cursor14:02
arunkumar413Blinking cursor14:02
brokencodesCTRL+ALT+F414:02
arunkumar413Nothing happens14:02
brokencodesthen go back to other cosole with CTRL+ALT+F114:03
arunkumar413Same black screen with blinking cursor14:03
arunkumar413Done14:03
brokencodeswe have to wait... for network to fail14:03
brokencodeshas it changed at all?14:03
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arunkumar413It's not failed. What is the time out to fail14:04
brokencodeseither 2 mins 59 seconds, or 5 mins14:04
arunkumar413Should i.press the WiFi button in keyboard to interrupt14:04
niko1990Hello14:05
brokencodesyou can try14:05
arunkumar413In the recovery menu again14:05
brokencodesok14:06
brokencodesroot14:06
brokencodesroot shell14:06
arunkumar413In the root shell now14:06
arunkumar413It asked to enter for maintenance14:07
niko1990Is there a software with that i can record/stream my screen in a "hidden" way? Like no red blinking "record" button, or something like that. And I need to be able to start recording/streaming on boot automatically... Is that possible?14:07
brokencodesapt remove xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu14:07
arunkumar413Or ctrl-d to continue14:07
brokencodesenter14:07
brokencodesmount -o remount,rw /14:08
arunkumar413Removed14:08
brokencodesreboot14:08
arunkumar413Is that mount command for me?14:09
brokencodesno, I thought you would mount RO14:09
brokencodesarunkumar413: type reboot now14:09
arunkumar413I'm comfused. Should i run the mount command14:10
skinuxIs this a good tutorial? https://www.ivankristianto.com/howto-make-swap-file-in-ubuntu/14:10
brokencodesno... just "reboot now"14:10
arunkumar413While rebooting should i enter any button14:10
brokencodesif apt remove xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu removed it, then you are already RW mounted14:10
arunkumar413Or normal reboot14:10
brokencodesnormal boot14:10
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arunkumar413Hope it works14:11
brokencodesme too...14:12
arunkumar413I have to take some backups14:12
* brokencodes crosses fingers14:12
arunkumar413Same stuck at the login screen14:12
skinuxWell, I hope it was, because I just used it to configure swapfile, since my system keeps lagging out as if it needs the SWAP.14:12
arunkumar413:(14:12
brokencodesarun, can you get a console with CTRL+ALT+F3?14:13
tomeaton17Some how my local settings specifically LANGUAGE and LC_ALL have been unset. How do I set these back?14:14
arunkumar413brokencodes: not going to console14:14
brokencodesarunkumar413: do you have another PC?14:15
arunkumar413No,.only mobile14:15
brokencodesis mobile on wifi?14:15
arunkumar413Yes14:15
brokencodesI'm assuming mobile is android, correct?14:16
arunkumar413Yes14:16
arunkumar413With marshmallow14:16
brokencodesopen android market, install connectbot14:16
brokencodesdo you know what the last IP address was that your pc got from wifi router?14:16
arunkumar413There r many connect bots14:17
arunkumar413No14:17
brokencodesConnectBot by Kenny Root14:18
brokencodesit is an SSH client'14:18
arunkumar413Installed14:19
brokencodesslide notification bar down from the top 2 times, and touch the gear, on your phone, we will get your IP14:19
brokencodeswhat make of phone is this?14:20
arunkumar413Moto g314:20
brokencodesgood14:20
brokencodesvanilla android ftw14:20
brokencodesbottom of settings, about phone14:21
arunkumar413It's marshmallow14:21
brokencodesI know, we are getting IP address14:21
brokencodesstatus14:21
arunkumar413How to get the ip address14:21
brokencodesI'm telling you14:22
brokencodes:)14:22
brokencodesGear | about phone | Status14:22
brokencodesshould show wifi address14:22
arunkumar413192.168.1.514:23
arunkumar413fe80::a670:d6ff:fe88:9ab814:23
brokencodesperfect14:23
brokencodesHow many other devices are on your wifi router?14:23
gsharp_Ubuntu setup in a windows laptop14:23
gsharp_mbr partitioned14:23
arunkumar413I'm not sure if my laptop is connected now14:24
brokencodesarunkumar413: how many devices would you assume are connect to your wifi router ATM?14:24
brokencodeswe will assume it is14:24
arunkumar413Now only my mobike seem to be connected14:24
brokencodesIs the wifi light on laptop on? or is it still disabled from earlier?14:25
arunkumar413Yes on14:25
brokencodesok14:25
brokencodesthen lets try14:25
sliptteesHi guys. Libreoffice Ubuntu 16.04 is 5.1.6 and libreoffice website version stable is 5.3.6. why no update repo?14:25
sliptteesLTS use older firefox :/14:26
sliptteesops14:26
sliptteesLibreoffice14:26
arunkumar413Laptop gone to black screen. But power button is on14:26
brokencodesLTS == Long Term Support. Newer applications require updates sometimes at system level...14:27
brokencodesarunkumar413: screen went to sleep... space bar slap will waker it14:27
brokencodeswake*14:27
brokencodesLTS releases are not bleeding edge releases, instead looking for stability, and offering bugfixes.14:27
arunkumar413No. It's not waking14:27
sliptteesbrokencodes: but libreoffice than important, maybe get 5.3.6 inside 16.04.314:27
arunkumar413Should i hard reboot14:28
brokencodestry connecting to pc with connectbot...14:28
brokencodesenter in hosname field YOURUSERNAME@192.168.1.414:28
sliptteesbrokencodes: Libreoffice 5.3.6 stable version, better 5.1.6 :/14:28
arunkumar413Is username the laptop host name?14:29
arunkumar413Or just a ramdom name for time being14:29
neurrehi14:29
neurrewhy is /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ not in ld search path?14:30
brokencodesusername is your username in ubuntu14:30
brokencodesslipttees: Libreoffice 5.2 was feature release... only help file bugfix...14:30
arunkumar413Ok14:30
brokencodesshould ask you to accept a key14:31
arunkumar413In connect bot what other settings should i select14:31
arunkumar413Apart from user name14:31
brokencodesssh, thats it14:31
brokencodesusername@192.168.1.414:31
sliptteesbrokencodes: i want 5.3.6 in oficial repo ;-)14:31
sliptteesbrokencodes: i have more than 200 machines for update 14.04 lts to 16.04.3, and libreoffice are older :-(14:32
brokencodessliptees: I want Time Machines sold at toyota dealerships... unfortunately for both of us, its not how either company's business model works14:32
sliptteesbrokencodes: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.314:33
arunkumar413192.168.1.4 or 1.514:34
brokencodes1.5 is your phone14:34
brokencodes1.4 might be your PC, we will hope14:34
brokencodesotherwise, you need livecd to fix it...14:35
ProktoDoes anyone know a way to increase the verbosity of debootstrap during base system installation?14:35
AnthaasHi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?14:36
arunkumar413Tried both 1.4 and 1.514:36
brokencodestry 1.314:36
arunkumar413Not connecting14:36
brokencodes1.1 should be router14:36
brokencodes1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.6 may be your pc14:36
arunkumar413Hw can it connect to laptop. laptop itself seem to be not connected to wifi14:37
brokencodesdoes wifi light blink when connected?14:37
skinuxWhen a web-based software installer needs write permission, what should it be? I know 777 is a horrible idea.14:38
brokencodes064414:38
skinuxFor directory?14:38
arunkumar413brokencodes: no14:39
skinux0644 is for non-writable files14:40
brokencodesarunkumar413: does your wifi light blink, or what indication do you get that it is connected to wifi, besides wifi icon on screen?14:40
arunkumar413the laptop is blank now14:40
arunkumar413I don't think it connect ti wifi without logging in14:40
brokencodesonly graphics is blank... CPU still working in back14:40
arunkumar413Yes, but we're not authenticated to work with laptop14:41
innovate41Hey anyone seen this thing where upstart reports a service running but then it actually isnt?14:41
brokencodesunless you have to manually connect to wifi on startup, wifi is connected by NetworkManager which is a service14:41
oerheksslipttees, maybe you want the LO ppa, it gives 5.4.1  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial14:41
arunkumar413As it's blank screen now should i reboot14:42
sliptteesoerheks: ok. I don't like ppa! Libreoffice 5.3.6 oficial ubuntu better choice kkk14:42
skinuxif g+w makes writable, does g-w make it non-writable?14:42
brokencodesyes14:43
jerg+w makes group writable only, and g-w makes it unwritable for the group14:43
brokencodes-w no write perms14:43
jerany arbitrary user may still be able to write to it14:43
jerif they have permissions through u or o14:43
skinuxg+w didn't make it writable14:43
oerheksslipttees, it won't land in 16.04, maybe you can open an SRU14:43
oerheks!sru14:43
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates14:43
skinuxGot it.14:44
jerskinux, i'm pretty sure it did =] you just may not be in the group that owns the file14:44
jerk14:44
skinuxIt didn't have the proper ownership that i thought it had.14:44
VlanXHello guys, please I need urgent help on this problem: I have extreme latency with NFS mounts , as the navigation between folders takes minutes to load. Do you belive that any of these parameters can be causing this?    auto,noatime,nolock,bg,intr,tcp,timeo=100,actimeo=1800  0  014:45
arunkumar413https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kjT9SZLE/irccloudcapture1896957118.jpg14:46
brokencodeslooks connected to me14:46
arunkumar413I don't think it can connect without logging in14:46
brokencodesup down arrows shows is connected14:47
arunkumar413If connected it shows WiFi symbol14:47
brokencodeslogin screen doesnt show wifi symbol14:47
arunkumar413Okay14:47
brokencodesmine does same thing14:47
brokencodesarunkumar413: please install network scanner in android phone14:48
brokencodesby easy mobile tools14:49
arunkumar413brokencodes: it shows only one device connected to router14:51
innovate41hi guys ubuntu uses systemd these days right ? or upstart ?14:51
arunkumar413My mobile14:51
VlanXplease don't reply all togheter14:51
arunkumar413Doesn't show the laptop14:51
arunkumar413P14:51
VlanXcan't keep up14:51
brokencodeswelp... you need livecd or ubuntu boot usb stick to fix it...14:51
arunkumar413brokencodes: can we do it via micro usb cable14:52
brokencodesVlanx someone will answer your question when a qualified person sees it...14:52
innovate41also why do i have 2 .service files in /lib/systemd/system   openvpn.service and openvpn@.service  ?14:53
brokencodesarunkumar413: unfortunately, you need root on laptop, and a console, to set up a virtual terminal with getty for android14:53
innovate41innovate41:   never mind i got the answer14:54
brokencodesarunkumar413: I must leave now for work...14:55
brokencodestry to get ahold of a usb stick today, or get someone to write a cd for you with ubuntu 16.04 on it...14:56
brokencodeslive or installer14:56
arunkumar413I'll geta usb stick14:56
arunkumar413Can u share the summary of things to do after getting the live usb stick14:57
arunkumar413BluesKaj: u there14:59
pavlosVlanX: http://osr507doc.xinuos.com/en/PERFORM/NFS_tuning.html ... maybe add rsize=1024,wsize=101414:59
BluesKajyes  arunkumar413 ?14:59
arunkumar413Once i have the live usb stick what should i do15:00
VlanXpavlos: thank you , lemme try15:00
arunkumar413Is there any other way to go to console and connect to WiFi15:00
jerthere's a long delay between when my bt keyboard loses connection to ubuntu and when it comes back (usually happens during low battery conditions) -- on ubuntu takes about 90 seconds for it to come back, but on osx less than 5. thoughts?15:01
BluesKajI don't what you did since I was busy with other things, arunkumar413 ...got tired of the interference from certain parties so i moved on.15:02
adrian_1908I just ran an apt update and got new Nvidia drivers. During installation it read "unable to delete old directory '/etc/OpenCL/vendors'" and the same for several other directories. Does anyone know if this is ok, or is some manual cleanup advisable?15:05
arunkumar413We just removed a amdgpu15:06
adrian_1908Things like `/usr/lib/nvidia-vvv` were among those too. In fact, it looks like these dirs contains broken symlinks.15:08
arunkumar413BluesKaj: in the rootshell can we load the basic vga driver15:10
Asad2005I tried installing ubuntu-dock on 17.10 from extention tab in tweaks but nothing happen it seems to fail15:12
nacc!ubuntu+1 | Asad200515:13
ubottuAsad2005: Artful Aardvark is the codename for Ubuntu 17.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+115:13
EriC^^arunkumar413: did you run the nvidia installer as root? also you need to run it with the gui not running15:16
zarzarcan i boot ubuntu (via vbox) into a command line only mode? my 16lts vm does not complete boot15:17
arunkumar413EriC^^:  i have amd graphics15:17
EriC^^zarzar: in grub press "e" over ubuntu and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz quiet splash and remove quiet splash and put "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"15:18
EriC^^and press f10 or ctrl+x to boot15:18
EriC^^arunkumar413: oh sorry, i meant to highlight adrian_190815:18
adrian_1908EriC^^: howdy. I ran `sudo apt full-upgrade` and the proprietary drivers arrived that way.15:19
adrian_1908EriC^^: Is there a way I can recover the output of the apt command? I already closed that terminal.15:20
AnthaasHi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?15:21
adrian_1908EriC^^: nevermind, I should have done a websearch, found it!15:21
adrian_1908Here are the relevant parts of the log: https://pastebin.com/R1LYjc8115:24
EriC^^adrian_1908: try "apt-cache policy nvidia-384"15:25
sleehi, i have a 2nd box, i remote desktop to it with vnc, the 2nd box doesn't have a monitor, so when i go to settings > display, it sees there isn't a monitor so i can't set the screen resolution, it's defaulting to like 1024x...how can i manully tell it to use a higher res...the gfx card in it is capable of higher res15:27
zarzarlooks like Light Display Manager fails to start in endless loop, stop, start etc...15:28
adrian_1908EriC^^: Looks good to me. I'm certain that 384 installed fine, I was just wondering if the old stuff not being cleanly deleted is an issue. Thanks to the apt log, I can do so manually.15:28
BluesKajarunkumar413, sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but you're gonna need an ethernet connection to do this...the wifi connection driver comes later15:29
naccslee: you need to adjust the vncserver's resolution15:29
EriC^^adrian_1908: it did mention some errors15:29
naccslee: it has nothign to do with your desktop15:29
arunkumar413BluesKaj: can't i connect to wifi using command line15:29
anddamhello, I have a multiboot with windows10, I installed the MS System Update Something Something while in W10 and it screwed it Windows Boot Manager that was chainloaded from grub. Now I copied back the UEFI boot loader and it works when manually called from firmware, however os-prober doesn't see the windows entry anymore15:29
EriC^^adrian_1908: try dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii15:29
zarzarEric^^: pressing e did not work, i think because of failed light display manager and failed start to detect available gous15:30
naccslee: you don't even need a graphics card on the 2nd box in order to use vnc, afaik15:30
anddamdoes os-prober rely on the installed systems, on the bootloader or what else?15:30
anddamnvm, I just re-tried os-prober after rebooting and it does indeed see the windows bootloader15:31
zarzargpus***15:31
arunkumar413Or can i launch x window server from command line15:31
anddamsorry for the noise15:31
BluesKajarunkumar413, did you read what i posted above?15:32
AnthaasHi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?15:32
arunkumar413BluesKaj:  u said i need a Ethernet first15:33
adrian_1908EriC^^: Is there something I should be looking for in that output? All listed items are "rc" (first column). Only nvidia related item: "nvidia-opencl-icd-375    384.90-0ubuntu2    amd64    Transitional package for nvidia-opencl-icd-384"15:33
EriC^^adrian_1908: "rc" is ok, that just means the config files are left over but it's removed15:33
anddamdifferent topic, is there a way to assign a name for a third linux system that appears as "unknown Linux distribution"?15:33
adrian_1908EriC^^: Ok, thanks!15:33
EriC^^adrian_1908: i guess it's all good then :)15:34
EriC^^no problem15:34
adrian_1908EriC^^: I'll just remove the old driver version dirs (with broken symlinks) and of course leave the non version-specific dirs intact.15:34
BluesKajyes, ethernet much simpler/automatic arunkumar413, then after the gpu driver is installed we can work on the wifi driver15:34
EriC^^adrian_1908: sounds good15:35
arunkumar413There r no problem with wifi why isn't turning on root shell15:39
oerheksarunkumar413,  making wifi work in root is harder than just grabbing a cable to fix this.15:40
arunkumar413Tried ifconfig waln0 up command n also network-manager command also15:40
arunkumar413Whr r the files stored which r imported through shotwell15:48
zarzarcan i unmount the /dev file system while running from it? my ubuntu vm is in emergency mode, need to check file system15:49
leftyfbzarzar: you need to do that outside your filesystem. As in with a live cd/usb.15:50
oerheksarunkumar413, Shotwell >  Edit -> Preferences. In the Preferences dialog you can see the library directory15:51
oerheksnot sure, but here i see it in ~/Pictures15:51
BluesKajarunkumar413, dn't use textspeak on irc like "u" and "r" etc., use real words please15:53
zarzarleftyfb: ok15:53
TrangarHello, I'm running out of space in my home dir and I know my server has more physical hard drive space, but I don't have physical access to my server, is there a way to increase the home dir size without taking it down? df is https://pastebin.com/4sG0Hfw616:01
naccTrangar: you have 9G free?16:02
Trangarnacc: not once I start compiling a project16:02
naccTrangar: how much more space do you need? you only have ~ 4.5G more to take from /16:03
nacc(based upon current partitioning)16:03
Trangarnacc: I have a 160GB hdd in there16:03
naccTrangar: I also has no idea why your system is partitioned the way it is16:03
TrangarI guess I'll add 20GB more?16:04
naccTrangar: why is your /var 10 G?16:04
TrangarDon't know16:04
naccTrangar: if you're using LVM, you can do partition resizing safely. Otherwise, you need to do it from the recovery boot, I believe16:05
TrangarHow can I tell?16:05
naccTrangar: bug also, I cna't tell if your partitions are laid out in a way that is resizable16:05
BluesKajTrangar, autoremove and autoclean can keep your / and /home dirs free of uneeded packages16:06
TrangarBluesKaj: yeah but the project i'm going to compile is like 20GB16:06
brokencodesTrangar: can you show the result of fdisk -l please16:06
nacciirc, something like `sudo pvs; sudo lvs`16:06
BluesKajtoo many partitions can be a curse as well as a convenience for an OS16:07
Trangarbrokencodes: https://pastebin.com/u1Z7Suys16:07
brokencodeshas 2 real partitions, but opted to use Extended to place logical partition inside of... and uses mapper / xfs for layout on single partition...16:11
TrangarI'll take your word for it16:13
BluesKajoh well, I'm gone ...again16:13
BluesKajlots of crosspoating going on these days between #ubuintu and ##liinux.. tiresome16:15
BluesKajcrossposting even16:15
Trangarbrokencodes: so do you think there is a way I can increase my home dir?16:21
AnthaasHi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?16:21
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brokencodesI would love to help, but apparently all it does is piss off the regulars...16:22
Trangar... what?16:24
leftyfbTrangar: no, you cannot increase your /home partition without rebooting. What you can do is (through trickery and some patience), copy the data from your home onto a new, larger partition and remount that over your /home16:27
Trangarleftyfb: can you send me a link to something that will help me get started?16:30
xcom169hello all16:42
xcom169if my /home/blabla/Video is 75516:42
xcom169but my /home/blabla is 70016:42
xcom169then  can I access only Videos from another account?16:42
k12Is this anything to worry about? Using Ubuntu Server: https://imgur.com/a/gMoiN16:43
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zuiss1can anyone with an ubuntu system tell me if exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packages are available to install from the default repos without adding any PPAs?16:45
baxxhow do16:46
nacc!info exfat-fuse | zuiss116:47
ubottuzuiss1: exfat-fuse (source: fuse-exfat): read and write exFAT driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (zesty), package size 30 kB, installed size 78 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)16:47
nacc!info exfat-utils | zuiss116:47
ubottuzuiss1: exfat-utils (source: exfat-utils): utilities to create, check, label and dump exFAT filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (zesty), package size 48 kB, installed size 255 kB16:47
nacczuiss1: or you could have searched on packages.ubuntu.com16:47
EriC^^xcom169: no, cause the /home/blabla isnt execute for everyone16:48
xcom169EriC^^: That's my problem. I need a directory which avaiable for me, and plex account also16:48
baxxi'm going to upgrade my ubuntu today. 16.04.3 seems to be the one to use - Ubuntu Mate is the lighter version, correct?16:49
xcom169EriC^^: I directory where I can stroe videos16:49
EriC^^xcom169: make a dir in /var/stuff16:49
zuiss1nacc: that information dump isn't sufficient info for someone who doesn't know anything about ubuntu to get an answer from. i don't know what component universe "is optional" or zesty means. does is optional means it is not installed by default, but available from the default repos, or optional as in available from PPAs?16:49
xcom169EriC^^: Under which user?16:49
baxxIt's " proper ubuntu ", ? Or if I get that and ask a question in here is that going to get a response of " idk , we don't use Mate "16:49
EriC^^xcom169: your user, and make the dir 755 so everyone can access the videos16:50
xcom169EriC^^: thanky16:50
EriC^^xcom169: welcome16:51
nacczuiss1: if you don't know "anything" about ubuntu, and yet know about PPAs and package names, I find that hard to believe. PPAs are not supported here, so we don't list packages in them. packages.ubuntu.com *also* does not earch PPAs, afaik.16:54
nacc!components | zuiss116:55
ubottuzuiss1: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.16:55
naccbaxx: mate is an official flavor of ubuntu, supported in this channel16:55
zuiss1nacc: it shouldn't be hard to believe. debian is working on PPA support and has the same package names ubuntu does in many cases16:55
baxxnacc: ok cool - wasn't sure whether it was a fork... it's the lightest ubuntu ?16:56
naccbaxx: i have no idea if that's true or not. I'd assume both lxde and xfce are lighter16:56
baxxnacc: right but they're not ubuntu are they?16:56
naccbaxx: xubuntu and lubuntu are16:57
SicnusI know what /etc/group is... but what is /etc/group-  ?  is it just a backup?16:57
nacc!flavors | baxx16:57
ubottubaxx: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours16:57
baxxah ok cool, i'll look into those - thanks16:57
BeansnRicesometimes this computer, seemingly out of nowhere, goes to a black screen16:58
BeansnRicewhat gives?16:58
zarzari'm in recovery menu, trying to repair brokwn packages, but all downloads fail, networking is enabled, can ping 8.8.8.8 successful16:59
EriC^^BeansnRice: when you move the mouse it comes back?16:59
EriC^^zarzar: can you ping google.com?17:00
BeansnRiceEriC^^: no, the only key that behaves normally is the power button17:00
strobotHi, can someone help me please? I have installed Ubuntu Studio and now I want to install the NEWEST version of Tuxguitar: Version 1.4. I have downloaded the .deb file and everytime I open it with the application called "Software" the Version changes to 1.2. Also after installing the version is 1.217:00
EriC^^BeansnRice: anything in /var/log/syslog around the time of it happening?17:00
zarzarliterally "ping google.com" no17:00
strobotThere ist an installation guide on this page: http://tuxguitar.pw/tgwiki/doku.php?id=doc:install_ubuntu17:00
EriC^^strobot: try in the directory of the deb file, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb17:00
zarzarEric^^: literally "ping google.com" no17:01
zarzarEric^^: so DNS lookup doesn't work17:02
BeansnRiceim getting one of these "(fwupd:1742): Fu-WARNING **: Failed to coldplug: UEFI firmware updating not supported"17:04
BeansnRiceand two of these "[pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org     .bluez': timed out"17:04
strobotThanks Eric^^ :)17:05
SicnusI'm trying to migrate one of the users off of my laptop to my new desktop system...  Can I simply just grab their entries from /etc/group (make sure the Group ID is unique) and then copy the entry from /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd ?17:07
EriC^^strobot: no problem :)17:07
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EriC^^Sicnus: yeah, you should be good doing that17:08
Sicnusk17:08
EriC^^Sicnus: of course make sure of the uid's in /etc/passwd17:09
RonaldsMazitisI just scanned whole hard drive with clamav17:20
RonaldsMazitisit found 6 viruses17:20
RonaldsMazitisdid not report where they are17:20
RonaldsMazitisdoesn't show up in quarantine17:20
RonaldsMazitishow do I see which files were infected17:21
oerheksRonaldsMazitis, you will need to tel clamav to make a report, and it does not clean https://askubuntu.com/questions/812336/how-can-i-make-a-detailed-report-of-clamav-scan-results-location-of-infected-fi17:21
RonaldsMazitisI accidentaly made another scan17:22
RonaldsMazitiswill it make report about all scans?17:23
oerheksnot if you don't  tell it to17:23
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV#Infected_files_reporting17:24
RonaldsMazitissudo clamscan -v -r / | grep FOUND >> /home/username/viruses.txt17:24
RonaldsMazitisthis should show all viruses from the scan I made on whole drive17:24
oerhekschange that last bit in: /home/$USER/viruses.txt17:25
RonaldsMazitisif I just use my username it's ok right17:25
oerheksyes, suspicious files, it maybe not harmfull at all, false alarm17:25
RonaldsMazitisI had problem with crtl pushing itself17:27
RonaldsMazitishttps://askubuntu.com/questions/742762/keys-malfunctioning17:28
RonaldsMazitissomething like this17:28
oerhekssounds more like a technical issue to me, dirty keys17:30
RonaldsMazitiskeys are ok17:30
RonaldsMazitisdid change my keyboard few moths ago17:31
EriC^^RonaldsMazitis: logging "xev" might show if the key is being pressed or not17:32
tomdickharryis there an easy way to add a script to startup without having to add symbolic links etc. etc.17:32
EriC^^tomdickharry: easiest way is to put a crontab job as @reboot /path/to/script17:33
leftyfbtomdickharry: yes, either write a systemd unit or add the script to /etc/rc.local17:33
oerheksor add to 'startup applications'17:33
leftyfbeww17:34
EriC^^add to startup if you want it run only for your user17:34
baxxi want to update my system - what happens with file ownership from files that I transfer?17:34
baxxI was going to just wipe my current setup and install a new version from a usb stick17:35
SicnusAny way to find out what packages are installed on a system without using dpkg?  I have a backup of a system I nuked and forgot to run dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list  before hand.17:35
baxxso I would copy my ~/ directory to an external drive, then copy it back afterwards, ? Won't there be some file conflicts or something?17:35
leftyfbSicnus: not with any sort of reliability17:36
RonaldsMazitishow long it takes for this - > sudo clamscan -v -r / | grep FOUND >> /home/username/viruses.txt to work17:36
leftyfbSicnus: just focus on installing the applications you know you need. If you had 20 applications you forgot about and never need them again, then....17:36
leftyfbRonaldsMazitis: depends on what it's scanning17:37
tomdickharryis /etc/rc.local just going to run it a few times....ie. at the end of each run level on startup17:37
leftyfbtomdickharry: it's only run once17:37
RonaldsMazitisleftyfb I thought it will use my already done scan on whole drive17:37
tomdickharryleftyfb, thanks, in "startup applications" for now anyway - thanks17:37
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RonaldsMazitiswhat was the reason to scan before if it did not had any log17:39
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oerheksRonaldsMazitis, you tell us? if you would have used the manual, you could have known there will be no log17:41
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zylogz80can anyone recommend an image editor that has HiDPI / 4k support for the interface? GIMP and PixelSheep are both to small to use on a 4k display. Or, even better, does a newer version of GIMP than what's in the 17.04 repos have HiDPI support?17:43
johnfgHi folks.17:50
johnfgJust got this error at the end of running: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)17:50
johnfgW: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 'linux_4.4.0-96.119.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)17:50
johnfgAny idea how to fix?17:50
johnfgAnd I'm running as root (sudo su -).17:50
zarzari am running repair packages from recovery mode, it is frozen at OK Started Braille Device Support, what should I do/17:51
leftyfbjohnfg: what's your pwd?17:52
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johnfgleftyfb: /root17:52
leftyfband does your user have access to write to /root?17:52
johnfgleftyfb: maybe, probably not.17:53
leftyfbjohnfg: by default, the answer is no17:53
johnfgWhat's the better way that sudo su -?17:53
johnfgs/that/than17:53
leftyfbjohnfg: why do you think you need to download the source into /root ?17:53
leftyfbwhy are you even in /root ?17:54
johnfgleftyfb: I'm not doing it on purpose.  I didn't have the kernel source installed, and wanted to install it.17:56
leftyfbjohnfg: why are you in /root?17:56
johnfgAll I did was sudo su -, then ran the command that I showed.17:56
leftyfbwhy do you need the kernel source?17:57
johnfgI guess sudo su - puts you in /root.17:57
johnfgleftyfb: to install openafs-modules-dkms17:57
leftyfbjohnfg: sudo apt-get install openafs-modules-dkms17:58
johnfgleftyfb: That's where I get the error that the kernel source for my kernel isn't installed.18:02
leftyfbjohnfg: paste the exact error you get to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com18:03
johnfghttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25687316/18:06
tgm4883johnfg: I'd think you probably just need to install linux-headers-generic18:10
johnfgtgm4883: I'll try that.18:12
Cat_BPRMI cant boot the installer from my usb or the try it version18:15
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zarzarwould removing all libxml* packages18:16
zarzarwould removing all libxml* packages cause gnome ui to fail?18:16
oerhekszarzar, yes, most likely. i think it is time to reinstall18:17
daptordarattlerzarzar, I STRONGLY advice you to refrain from making such package naming wide operations on ur packages18:17
zarzari am, i was able to get it to boot without gnome, command line only18:17
oerheksgood lesson not to remove things randomly18:17
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zarzaryea i wasn't thinking, i was in hurry\18:18
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zarzarit was dumb i know18:18
oerhekszarzar, so, if you can boot to text, why not reinstall the desktop ackage?18:19
oerheksc/package18:19
zarzaroerheks: didn;t know that was possible18:19
zarzarthat might fix it18:19
oerheks sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop18:20
zarzardo you know of a guide to reinstall it?18:20
zarzaroerheks: cool beans, thanks, will try it after i copy off important files18:20
_adbusing 16.04. `systemctl enable --now apache2` output begins "apache2.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install", and the --now flag isn't respected. two questions: 1) is there a reason this package isn't a "native service", and 2) is there a way to make the --now flag function as documented?18:27
zarzaroerheks: is there anything i should reinstall to make help make sure the system is cleaned up?18:28
Cat_BPRMWhen I try Boot Ubuntu installer from usb, it freezes; is this supposed to happen?18:28
nacc_adb: `apt-cache policy apache2` in a pastebin, please18:30
Cat_BPRMAll I get is the Ubuntu logo and the 5 dots but they aren’t switching between orange and white18:30
_adbnacc: http://sprunge.us/DKeZ18:32
nacc_adb: and did you do something like `sudo apt install apache2` ?18:32
_adbyes. is that wrong?18:33
nacc_adb: no, i'm just trying to reproduce it18:33
nacc_adb: had you disabled apache2?18:33
_adbyes, i've tried enabling and disabling it a  few times. with and without the --now flag.18:33
_adbi can start over with a fresh install if that helps18:34
nacc_adb: I guess I'm trying to understand why?18:34
nacc_adb: it comes enabled18:34
nacc_adb: not sure why you are manually enabling it or disabling it, exactly18:34
pavlosCat_BPRM: this may help ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/861743/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-from-a-usb-drive-freezes18:34
_adbbecause sometimes i want it running and enabled and other times i don't. as far as i remember, it always complained about not being a native service.18:35
nacc_adb: well, if you want to start or stop a service, and you aren't going to check if it's native or not, you should use start and stop respectively18:37
nacc_adb: it seems like --now only applies to native services18:37
AnthaasHi guys - I don't have a .xsession file?18:37
AnthaasIm trying to create an .Xresources file to load18:38
naccAnthaas: there is no ~/.xsession file by default (there might be a .xsession-errors)18:38
Anthaasnacc, There is.18:38
naccAnthaas: there is, what?18:39
AnthaasI thought xsession was loaded when an xsession was created, and you use xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources to change the general layout of your xsession?18:39
Anthaasnacc, There is a .xsession-errors18:39
_adbnacc: systemctl stop apache2; reboot; ## apache2 will start up when the machine finishes booting, but i don't want it to. this is why it must be disabled. of course i can systemctl stop apache2 && systemctl disable apache2, but the --now flag exists so i don't have to do that. why isn't apache2 a "native service"? what does that mean? i get that obscure packages won't have systemd unit files yet, but apache?!18:39
nacc_adb: if your intentionn is to stop and disable a service, then you don't want &&, you want ;, I think semantically18:40
nacc_adb: becuase there is no systemd service file for it18:41
johnfgtgm4883: Thanks!  That worked!  I now have a working openafs-client, and can access my cell and volumes!18:41
nacc_adb: most packages don't have systemd files, tbh.18:41
_adbnacc: you're right. ; just in case the first one fails.18:41
nacc_adb: feel free to contribute in Debian, if you would like to write one. Or perhaps file a bug that systemctl --now could work properly for non-native cases (it might be an upstream systemd issue, I don't know)18:42
_adbwell that's disappointing. thanks anyway.18:43
Cat_BPRMpavlos thanks, it worked :)18:46
pavlosCat_BPRM: great!18:46
nacchttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/c9905d4dd291c1525dc1a075651aade26498b204/src/systemctl/systemctl.c#L5917 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/systemctl/systemctl.c#L6388 seem relevant18:47
nacc_adb: basically, the --now should not be elided and /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install needs to learn to understand --now (possibly)18:51
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CapprenticeHI! Im using Ubuntu 16.04. I have installed KFTPGrabber which shows no Icons on its interface. Im pulling my hair off trying to fix it. I have installed oxygen and many other icon themes, gtk theme etc and used Unity Tweak Tool to change the themes, but still no progress.19:00
CapprenticeWhat could be the issue?19:01
Cat_BPRMSorry my client glitches out My question was if I install Ubuntu alongside windows boot manager, how do I choose which Os when I start my computer19:02
greengameplayerhmm...19:02
greengameplayerhave you tried reinstalling it?19:02
CapprenticeCat_BPRM: You can install grub-customizer and customize the ordering.19:03
Capprenticeyes.19:03
Cat_BPRMCan I just use my bios?19:03
greengameplayerOK, did you try grub-reconfigure19:03
CapprenticeNo.19:03
oerheksCat_BPRM, hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu, to choose19:03
oerheks!grub19:03
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:03
Bashing-omCat_BPRM: That depends on the system configration as to what options you have How many hard drives and what is installed where .,, AND the mainboard firmware - bios or EFI ?19:04
greengameplayertry doing sudo grub-reconfigure19:04
Cat_BPRMI have so many decision to make, do I want windows and Ubuntu or just ubuntu19:04
greengameplayerLol, I just remembered I'm talking from Minecraft19:04
Cat_BPRMWhat’s better? Installing with windows or alone, as in which is safet19:05
Bashing-omCat_BPRM: Do not go cold turkey off Windows :)19:05
Cat_BPRMSafest*19:05
oerheksformat and use ubuntu19:05
greengameplayerUbuntu by itself is the safest19:05
Cat_BPRMWhat are the risks19:06
greengameplayerYou loose Windows19:06
Cat_BPRMApart from everything deleted19:06
CapprenticeCat_BPRM: There were Wubi installer for testing,19:06
greengameplayerOh. None.19:06
CapprenticeYou should use that.19:06
oerheksugh .. wubi is dead19:06
oerheks!wubi19:06
ubottuWubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and Windows, and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.19:06
Cat_BPRMI’m scared as this is the only computer I got and o don’t want it broken19:06
greengameplayerUbuntu will NOT19:07
greengameplayerUnder ANY circumstance19:07
greengameplayerruin your computer19:07
greengameplayer.19:07
CapprenticeAh! I have not around for many days, I purchased a shitty laptop which runs i7 7th gen iCore, and it wont allow windows 7.19:07
Toadisattvaif you plan on modern age gaming you may want to set it to dualboot windows and ubuntu (only kuz linx isn't quite there yet on the most modern gaming, if you aren't worried about gaming the newest games then trash the windoze and go full ubunutu19:07
Cat_BPRMOkay, I have and nvidia card, what can happen in the time that I don’t have the drivers?19:08
Cat_BPRMI’m good with tech I’m just VERY cautious19:08
greengameplayerThere are Nvidia drivers19:08
Cat_BPRMI know but before I install them, what can happen19:08
greengameplayernothing19:08
Cat_BPRMOkay19:08
Toadisattvaubuntu will autodetect your card and run it on open source drivers, you can install nvidia specific drivers (in most cases) but it's not usually necessary19:08
Bashing-omCat_BPRM: We DO maintain nvidia drivers . That is not an issue .19:09
greengameplayerUbuntu comes pre-installed with some drivers19:09
greengameplayerfor any type of card19:09
Cat_BPRMOkay19:09
Capprenticekde connect is kool19:09
Cat_BPRMI think I’m almost ready to stop being a wimp and just do it19:09
Capprenticeim typing via android19:09
Capprenticeyes19:09
Capprenticedo that19:09
greengameplayerAnd, if you want to use Windows programs you can use Wine19:09
Bashing-om!dualboot | Cat_BPRM19:09
ubottuCat_BPRM: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:09
Cat_BPRMI’m not gonna dual boot19:10
Capprenticeany one have any suggestion for my case?19:10
Toadisattvaif you already have windows install setting up ubuntu alongside it incredibly easy19:10
Toadisattvaclick "install alongside windows" done19:10
Toadisattva:P19:10
Cat_BPRMI’m not gonna install it with windows, ima do it alone19:10
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Cat_BPRMI’m just working myself up to do it...19:10
ToadisattvaI am always in favor of killing windoze for the record19:10
Toadisattvaif we don't use it will go away is my thinking19:11
Toadisattvathen the game companies can just make them properly linux compatible to start with and everyone wins19:11
* Toadisattva an optimist19:11
Bashing-omCat_BPRM: A Windows install ?? Talk to the Windows people " and it wont allow windows 7" ???19:11
blacknred0i'm trying to transfer a file from macos to ubuntu, but i am getting an error on my mac that says "the device does not have the necessary services"19:11
blacknred0is there some bluetooth thing that i need to enable?19:12
_adbnacc: this debian bug (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798430 (opened 2015-09-09, closed 2016-09-29)) says it's fixed in apache2/2.4.23-5, but latest apache in ubutnu repos is 2.4.18. so i guess i should just wait on that. i haven't found any existing bugs in upstream systemd for --now flag yet, but haven't finished looking yet. if i can't find an existing bug, i'll create a new issue. is this the correct place for that https://github.com/sy19:12
greengameplayerCapprentice what's your problem>19:12
ubottuDebian bug 798430 in apache2 "apache2: please add systemd service file" [Wishlist,Fixed]19:12
Bashing-omCapprentice: ^^ sorry Cat_BPRM  , Meant for other :(19:13
Cat_BPRMOkay, I click install, now I just need to hit continue19:13
zarzaroerheks: seems to be working now after desktop reinstall, thanks for the advice19:13
greengameplayerCapprentice you may have a major glitch or a software broken package19:14
greengameplayertry to do alt f419:14
Capprenticegow do i fix that19:14
greengameplayeryou should get a terminal19:14
greengameplayerthen do sudo apt-get -f19:15
nacc_adb: to be clear, that version won't appear in 16.04 ever. You could ask ubuntu to add the service file to the version in 16.04 via !bug19:15
nacc_adb: i think so (re: github)19:15
_adbnacc: oh :-(  why not? LTS doesn't get minor version updates, just security patches?19:17
nacc!stable | _adb19:17
ubottu_adb: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.19:17
nacchrm, not that :)19:17
nacc!latest | _adb19:17
ubottu_adb: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.19:17
nacc_adb: and yeah, released versions almost nenver update19:17
nacc_adb: apache minor version aren't actual minor versions in the sensible ways19:17
nacc_adb: they are not backwards compatible, necessarily19:17
nacc_adb: and add new functionality :/19:17
_adbi see. thank you for clarifying.19:17
Capprenticegreengameplayer: Done that. Nothing is broken or held19:18
nacc_adb:  you could test with 17.04 or 17.10, which should be recent enough19:18
_adbnacc: they only allow LTS in this environment19:18
greengameplayerOkay, do sudo apt-get update19:18
CapprenticeNothing left to upgrade19:18
Capprenticeno new updates19:18
greengameplayerHmm...19:19
greengameplayerTry doing alt  f119:19
greengameplayerCan you alt least log in19:20
_adbin the shortterm, just doing the two commands (enable and start) separately will be good enough. hopefully systemd support will be more complete in the future versions. thank you for your help.19:20
Capprenticegreengameplayer: Im logged in19:20
nacc_adb: yw19:20
CapprenticeIts the app icons which does not work19:20
greengameplayerokay, so there's NO icons anywhere?19:21
Capprenticegreengameplayer: https://i.imgur.com/zSwN2io.png..19:23
CapprenticeThis is how all of my KDE apps looks here on Unuty Desktop - https://i.imgur.com/zSwN2io.png19:24
Capprenticeno icons on the tool bar19:25
CapprenticeWhere are all the Ubuntu Widards.19:27
CapprenticeWhere else should I ask this?19:27
greengameplayerWait19:27
greengameplayerdo sudo apt-get install -r KFTPgrabber19:28
greengameplayerthen sudo apt-get install KFTPgrabber19:28
greengameplayerthat should reinstall it19:28
CapprenticeYes! Tried that. Thats the second thing I did.19:31
Capprenticestill the issue same19:31
greengameplayerok, i'll point you to the KDE channel'19:31
Capprentice#kde?19:31
greengameplayeryes that's it19:33
greengameplayergo ahead and head over to #kde19:33
greengameplayerthey should be able to help you19:34
AnthaasIs there an .xsession file or .initrc file at all on ubuntu?19:38
AnthaasI want to get xmonad to launch19:38
akikAnthaas: .xsessionrc19:41
Anthaasakik, I dont even have that.19:41
AnthaasI have .xsession-errors, thats it.19:42
akikAnthaas: create it. i have no idea why it's changed names19:42
AnthaasThanks19:42
akikAnthaas: could you tell me if it worked?19:48
Anthaasakik, Will do19:52
ecdheOn xenial, I have gnome-terminal set to the perfect transparency.  I have a large number of other desktops I'd like to configure to have the same settings, but I can't figure out where gnome-terminal stores its settings.  Any idea how to programmatically configure gnome-terminal preferences?19:52
Anthaasecdhe, .Xresources19:53
akikAnthaas: can you select xmonad in the login screen?19:53
Anthaasthen xrdb -merge .Xresources19:53
Anthaasakik, I am set to auto-log in atm19:54
Anthaasakik, Also, what is an ".xpm" file - its used for xmonad's background19:54
AnthaasCan it be replaced for any image?19:54
akikAnthaas: it's a bitmap file19:54
Anthaasakik, Is there a way to convert, say, a .jpg to .xpm?19:55
akikAnthaas: try convert from imagemagick19:55
greengameplayer_lol20:01
greengameplayer_im doing irc on irc20:01
greengameplayerand minecraft20:02
greengameplayer_Anyway, i gtg20:03
greengameplayerbye20:03
Anthaasakik, So, I've created my xsessionrc, which does xrdb -merge .Xresouces, xpmroot [background image.xpm], /usr/bin/xmonad - should be enough, right?20:04
AnthaasSo....should I just restart now?20:04
akikAnthaas: i really don't know. which desktop environment were you using until now?20:05
Anthaasubuntu 16.04 - pretty much a fresh install20:05
Anthaasakik ^20:07
akikAnthaas: try it20:07
Anthaasakik, Yeah - its loaded to xmonad.20:11
KombuchaKipCan anyone help me with a boot problem? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2373496&p=13695024#post1369502420:14
truelaiHey everyone. I have a network interface situation. I can't ping my second bridge, even from the host. what am I getting wrong? http://pasted.co/78c9ed4720:27
nacc!crosspost | truelai20:28
ubottutruelai: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.20:28
truelaigotcha. thanks20:28
KombuchaKipCan anyone help me with a RAID1 issue? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2373496&p=13695024#post1369502421:04
kenrinDo you see the md if you use a livecd ?  It may just not have the required packages to view it21:12
snkcldhow can i disable the HSP/HFP  profile for my bluetooth headphones? for some reason, anytime i use my bluetooth headphones, i have to connect, disconnect, then connect again to get it to switch to A2DP21:12
kenrinBy livecd,  I mean booting into it and installing mdadm.  Not just trying to view it without the right packages21:12
desez2tpunkAnyone on that is able to help me with a networking issue? I'm unsure if it's possibly Ubuntu related or my laptop :/21:26
samlhow do I rename a package in a way that it cleanly replaces existing package of different name?21:26
naccsaml: you keep coming in here and asking the same question21:29
naccsaml: I believe you know the answer. build it properly.21:29
strivedesez2tpunk: Just ask the question.21:29
desez2tpunkWell, running on Windows 10 I had no packet losses and such. However I have wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu 17.04, when I ping a website such as google, I get ping times of 35, then random packets of 100-800, and sometimes packet loss completely.21:31
samlnacc, that's what i'm trying to do.21:31
samli do have to keep package name different. but my package should cleanly replace existing one21:31
desez2tpunkRunning on a wireless card. Not through ethernet, however a windows laptop I have next to me is not losing packets or having high ping times.21:32
samlhttps://wiki.debian.org/RenamingPackages    there's Clean slate method. That seems like what I need. but even with Provides, Replaces, Conflicts,   it does not cleanly remove old package if another package depends on the old package.21:32
naccsaml: ok, then don't ask the other question. Ask the actual question, and you probaby want either #ubuntu-packaging or #debian-packaging. Definitely not an Ubuntu support topic.21:33
samlah thanks21:33
adamitschWhy selective print screen doesnt work on 17.1021:37
desez2tpunkNo one at all willing to help with the wireless network issue? :/21:38
nacc!ubuntu+1 | adamitsch21:43
ubottuadamitsch: Artful Aardvark is the codename for Ubuntu 17.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+121:43
ycyclisthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25688462/22:00
naccycyclist: that's a rather unhelpful way to ask a question.22:01
naccycyclist: but the answer is that /bin/sh is not the rigth thing to use if you're relying on bash functionality22:01
naccycyclist: use /bin/bash22:01
ycyclistThe question is, why is the Bourne shell not the same on Ubuntu?  What is the difference?22:01
naccycyclist: it is, you're not listening.22:02
naccycyclist: /bin/sh is not by definition bash.22:02
ycyclistWe are trying to NOT use Bash.  We are trying to use Bourne shell, or its equivalent.22:02
ycyclistWe want to specify POSIX minimal Bourne Shell, like dash, presumably.22:03
naccycyclist: then you should learn syntax. there is no 'let' in dash.22:03
ycyclistAt any rate, doing so works on CentOS 7, and SuSE.  As I know you have a flavor of Bourne shell on Ubuntu, since at requires it and I use at there all the time, I wonder why it differs.22:04
ycyclistOk.  So that means the Bourne shell on the other two is something more.  That makes sense.22:04
ycyclistThanks guys.22:04
mcphailycyclist: lots of distros symlink /bin/sh to bash (the bourne again shell) which has added features and syntax. Ubuntu has /bin/sh linked to dash (a minimal shell) by default. If your shebang is "#! /bin/sh" you should only ever rely on the minimal shell syntax22:08
baxxwhat doesn't Lubuntu include that Ubuntu does?23:30
adrian_1908baxx: The difference of derived distros is mostly the selection of pre-installed programs. So you might have a different control panel, file manager, email program, text editor etc.23:38
baxxadrian_1908: ok - that's it though? I mean, i can just install a different PDF reader if i like... But I wasn't sure if there were *loads* of libraries not included and stuff like that23:39
baxxwhich would cause me to bump into lots of missing things and what not.23:39
adrian_1908baxx: Most of the skeleton is identical, so you have access to all the same libraries, drivers, programs, i.e. you still get all the good stuff of the Ubuntu ecosystem.23:40
baxxadrian_1908: ok - and PPAs, mp3 codecs etc are the same23:41
baxxthat's all good then i think23:41
adrian_1908yes, that's all there like before. In fact, one could probably recreate something similar to Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc. from a vanilla Ubuntu install. It's just less convenient than a streamlined sister-distro.23:42
baxxadrian_1908: all good, i don't really mind about it not looking as pretty, and have a pretty definite use for my computer that lubuntu will be fine for ( just checking there wasn't anything hidden that i was missing )23:43
urgodfatherhello room, does anyone know off hand if mythtv is still supported?23:56
nacc!info mythtv23:58
ubottumythtv (source: mythtv): Personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:0.28.0+fixes.20170206.03f4403-0ubuntu3.1 (zesty), package size 4 kB, installed size 86 kB23:58
naccurgodfather: --^23:58
urgodfatherty nacc23:59
naccthere is also mythbuntu 16.0423:59
urgodfatheri thought mythbuntu was discontinued23:59
birkoffis zesty considered stable/unstable?23:59

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