[00:00] <clyp> bcowan that's i used ls -a -l and got it all and just nano'd the output to the textfile
[00:00] <clyp> thanks*
[00:38] <kevc45> After upgrading my server to Ubuntu 16.04. Most of my services don't work anymore (apache2, mysql, phpmyadmin, fail2ban) (fail to start). Where do I even start? What logs should I be looking at?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> kevc45: Initiation/scripts have changed in systemd, see : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[00:54] <kevc45> @Bashing-om I heard. But how do I migrate?
[00:54] <kevc45> Shouldn't that be something that's done when you upgrade to 16.04.
[00:55] <nacc> kevc45: what did you upgrade from?
[00:59] <kevc45> nacc: I started this adventure on 12.04 (EOL) -> ?? (used do-release-upgrade) -> 16.04
[01:16] <Bashing-om> kevc45: See the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . Follow up : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bug/1571865 .
[01:27] <Hooloovo0> I am installing ubuntu from a PXE booted mini.iso and grub-install is failing
[01:27] <Hooloovo0> I believe it thinks it booted from efi, but that is not the case
[01:27] <web_dev> hi
[01:28] <web_dev> installed apache 2.4 by compiling by myself
[01:28] <web_dev> the only way i found to start it was: sudo /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start
[01:28] <web_dev> there is another one?
[01:28] <web_dev> if i write apache2 or httpd in shell, nothing found
[02:04] <mattfly> yo
[02:06] <mattfly> hello
[02:06] <mattfly> i changed the resolution of my screen after wine messed with it using xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --mode 1366x768
[02:06] <mattfly> but now every program i open gets a weird font size
[02:07] <mattfly> a too small font size
[02:07] <mattfly> what is happening? how to just get the default settings like after boot
[02:07] <mattfly> i have a nvidia with propretary drivers installed
[02:13] <Bashing-om> mattfly: Use a set up wizard ? ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup '  It would guide you through the steps to choose a font and font-size.
[02:13] <Bashing-om>  the new settings will be effective after reboot. To apply immediately, just run:
[02:13] <Bashing-om> ' setupcon ' .
[02:14] <mattfly> i didnt mean only for consol
[02:14] <mattfly> have u ever tried to play a game on wine? it messes up your screen resolution
[02:14] <mattfly> then i had to run xrandr to sovle this
[02:14] <mattfly> but every pŕogram i open and specially browsers have such a small font size now for some reason
[02:16] <Bashing-om> mattfly: unity ?
[02:16] <mattfly> no i3
[02:16] <mattfly> i3 window manager
[02:16] <mattfly> no DE
[02:16] <mattfly> isnt there a way to make xrandr set all default things?
[02:18] <mattfly> hey!!!
[02:18] <mattfly> i have the problem only with browsers
[02:18] <mattfly> what the helll is that
[02:19] <mattfly> what a stupid thing
[02:23] <Bashing-om> manacit: Maybe try : https://askubuntu.com/questions/440958/is-there-any-way-to-set-the-display-scaling-back-to-default-other-than-from-the .
[02:32] <Anthaas> Is there a way to, like, re-format Ubuntu to a clean install?
[02:33] <Anthaas> Does it need a live disk?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> Anthaas: "re-format Ubuntu to a clean install?" is a backup data and a clean fresh install .
[02:36] <wavrydr> i have a question
[02:36] <Bashing-om> !asl | wavrydr
[02:36] <Bashing-om> !ask | wavrydr
[02:36] <wavrydr> if a new version comes out do i have to bakup my data and do a clean install or can i just upgrade
[02:37] <wavrydr> oh my bad sorry
[02:37] <Bashing-om> !upgade | wavrydr
[02:37] <Anthaas> wavrydr, Its smart to backup before upgrading, but there is no necessity...
[02:37] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | wavrydr
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> wavrydr: /home is saved, depending on what you do exactly
[02:56] <jayze> So I have a couple of questions if anyone might know where to point me in the right direction. I am trying to setup suspend on close lid for my laptop, but only when on battery power. When on cord, I just want it to keep running as this is normally when I am hooked up with my docking station.
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> jayze: in normal case, energy options in ubuntu should be managing hibernate
[03:02] <jayze> True but I was hoping for more granular control of behavior between plugged in and on battery power.
[03:03] <jayze> I have used linux off and on for many years. I finally have a dedicated machine that I can run linux on fulltime again. However it is a laptop that I am using for school. I actually got a docking station for it and plan to use both modes.
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> jayze: perhaps playing with dconf-editor can bring more tweaking?
[03:03] <jayze> Really happy with how mature linux and ubuntu have come.
[03:04] <jayze> I never have used dconf-editor before but I might give that a try.
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> jayze: yeah ubuntu is very neat these days
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | jayze maybe more tweaking here also
[03:05] <jayze> ah! thank you. That might help me alot
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> jayze: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[03:05] <jayze> I am actually running ardvark.
[03:06] <jayze> I know its not release yet but I felt it was close enough.
[03:06] <jayze> I will be probably making another install on the laptop of LTS sharing the same homedirectory structure for my personal files just for peace of mind.
[03:06] <jayze> the laptop is not anything much except for the fact that it has plenty of ram and a nice big ssd.
[03:07] <jayze> lenovo t430, but it was in perfect condition with the 1600x900lcd and it was free to me.
[03:07] <jayze> just had to provide an ssd :P
[03:09] <jayze> yep, looks like dconf-editor was it
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> jayze: for 17.10 you can idle in #ubuntu+1 for issues mate
[03:11] <jayze> k :P
[03:12] <jayze> Only been up on the machine since this afternoon but it seems quite stable.
[03:26] <yookoala> With 0 person in #ubuntu+1, where can I get help with Ubuntu 17.10?
[03:27] <yookoala> I want to report an issue, but event #ubuntu-bugs won't help it.
[03:27] <yookoala> I'm totally confused.
[03:39] <christian_> do you have a detailed procedure on how to install dnscrypt-proxy?
[03:39] <nergar> hello
[03:49] <yookoala> !ask | nergar
[03:54] <kristhian> another question, how do i know if i am using eth0 or eth1?
[03:54] <kristhian> can i do it just by typing ifconfig?
[03:55] <nergar> Hello, how do I know if tomcat8 package in ubuntu uses systemd or sysinit?
[03:55] <nergar> im using xenial 16.04
[03:58] <Bashing-om> kristhian: ' ip link ls ' will tell what link is active .
[03:59] <kristhian> thank you
[03:59] <kristhian> anyways what does 'lo' means?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> kristhian: the local loop - internal link .
[04:00] <yookoala> nergar: Look for tomcat* in /etc/init.d. If there is such file, then your tomcat package is sysinit.
[04:00] <yookoala> nergar: If you have it installed already.
[04:02] <nergar> yookoala: yup, it is indeed in init.d but xenial uses systemd does it not? what do I do now?
[04:03] <yookoala> nergar: When using systemctl command to control services, it will fallback to sysinit script if a service file of the name is not found.
[04:04] <nergar> neat!
[04:05] <nergar> and when are the packages updated to use systemd? just curious bout how dev side works
[04:06] <yookoala> nergar: I'm not sure :-P.  I guess it would probably remove the rc script and install the systemd unit file.
[04:07] <yookoala> nergar: if you do a dist-ugrade.
[04:08] <yookoala> nergar: I'm talking about my exprience with Ubuntu and other distro with systemd. Not sure how it works underneath.
[04:10] <nergar> I see
[04:29] <wavrydr> anyone here
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:29] <wavrydr> oh hey there
[04:30] <wavrydr> i was wondering when my version's updates period expires, do i have to install the latest version or can i just upgrade to the latest version?
[04:32] <wavrydr> lotuspsychje, you there
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> wavrydr: wich version?
[04:33] <wavrydr> i have ubuntu mate 16.04 lts
[04:33] <Bashing-om> !do-release-upgrade | wavrydr
[04:34] <wavrydr> in terminal you mean?
[04:34] <glitsj16> wavrydr: you're good untill April 2021 with that
[04:34] <wavrydr> i thought it was april 2018
[04:34] <wavrydr> glitsj16, ?
[04:35] <Bashing-om> wavrydr: ^^ and yes the upgrade path does exist .
[04:35] <glitsj16> not with 16.04 LTS, are you sure that's what you have?
[04:35] <wavrydr> i have whatever the newest version of mate is
[04:35] <wavrydr> the lts version
[04:35] <wavrydr> i may be stating that incorrectly
[04:35] <wavrydr> let me check the version
[04:35] <jayze> LTS versions last a nice long time if you dont feel like upgrading out of them.
[04:36] <Bashing-om> wavrydr: Terminal command ' lsb_release -a ' .
[04:37] <glitsj16> might be handy if the release time info was in that
[04:37] <wavrydr> thanks Bashing-om
[04:45] <wavrydr> how do i find out which version i have
[04:49] <Bashing-om> wavrydr: The Desktop environment? ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION ' .
[04:50] <wavrydr> ok thanks
[04:50] <wavrydr> i was looking but coudn't find it
[04:52] <vern> https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[04:52] <wavrydr> i have 16.04.3 lts
[04:52] <wavrydr> thats what i thought
[05:07] <sara2010> hi
[05:07] <sara2010> any one help me
[05:08] <sara2010> by mistake i rm these /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow /etc/shadow-
[05:08] <sara2010> i los my all data
[05:08] <sara2010> how do i recover
[05:08] <sara2010> plz help me
[05:08] <glitsj16> restore your backup
[05:09] <alkisg> sara2010: check in /var/backups
[05:09] <alkisg> There should be backups there
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: did you get your ibus issue straight?
[05:11] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: the dependencies issue? Yeah I used aptitude and removed them, but I haven't yet learned if it's possible to do the same thing with plain apt.
[05:11]  * alkisg waves btw :)
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> hey :p
[05:12] <sara2010> how to restore backup files
[05:12] <jayze> Btw: lotuspsychje thanks for the tip about dconf. I was able to tune a few other things that had been bothering me as well.
[05:12] <jayze> Powerful tool that dconf
[05:12] <alkisg> sara2010: are you in the booted system now? Or are you using a live cd?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jayze
[05:13] <sara2010> alkisg .. i have put HDD in secondery
[05:14] <alkisg> sara2010: so you have a second ubuntu and you booted from the second ubuntu?
[05:14] <sara2010> alkisg .. yes
[05:14] <alkisg> Do you know how to access the old partition? Like e.g. in /media/sara/Ubuntu/etc ?
[05:15] <sara2010> alkisg .. yes i know very well ..
[05:15] <alkisg> OK, do you see a /media/sara/Ubuntu/var/backups folder? Does it have passwd.bak there?
[05:18] <sara2010> alkisg .. there is media/sara/ nothing in sara
[05:18] <alkisg> sara2010: then you don't know how to access the second disk...
[05:18] <sara2010> alkisg .. sara is empty
[05:19] <alkisg> sara2010: what's the output of this command? sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:20] <sara2010> alkisg .. there is 2 partition in one is /home  one is /root
[05:20] <alkisg> sara2010: can't help without the output of that command
[05:21] <sara2010> alkisg .. in /home i got sara and all my data
[05:21] <sara2010> alkisg .. okay letme give you output of command
[05:26] <sara2010> alkisg. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684174/
[05:27] <alkisg> sara2010: it's two - there, not one
[05:27] <alkisg> lsblk --fs vs lsblk -fs
[05:29] <sara2010> alkisg .. i got backups in /var
[05:29] <alkisg> OK, copy those then
[05:29] <sara2010> i should give access 1st
[05:30] <sara2010> should i copy in /medai/sara/
[05:31] <alkisg> sara2010: I can't tell you more if you don't give the output of that command: sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:31] <alkisg> Because now I don't know if you are booted in a second installation, in a live cd etc
[05:32] <sara2010> alkisg . already i give you output
[05:32] <sara2010> alkisg. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684174/
[05:32] <alkisg> sara2010: you typed it wrong
[05:32] <alkisg> You put one - instead of two --
[05:34] <sara2010> okay
[05:35] <sara2010> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684191/
[05:36] <weston> Hi all. During booting, I could not see the grub menu..it directly boots to the new kernel I installed. How can I stop at grub and select my other kernel?
[05:36] <Bashing-om> sara2010: Slow dowm and think; alkisg may posibly get you through this :)
[05:37] <sara2010> Bashing-om.  hmmmm
[05:37] <sara2010> alkisg . http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25684191/
[05:38] <alkisg> sara2010: nice. Now can you give the output of this command? ls /media/*/etc/*sha* | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:38] <alkisg> You don't need to put it to pastebin.ubuntu.com, you can paste it here
[05:38] <alkisg> It's only one line
[05:38] <Bashing-om> weston: EFI system, as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key . legacy; depress and hold a shift key .
[05:39] <weston> Bashing-om: I am using legacy boot and not UEFI
[05:39] <alkisg> weston: hold down left shift while booting
[05:39] <Bashing-om> weston: As soon as the bios screen clears . depress a shift key ,
[05:39] <weston> Bashing-om: ok let me try
[05:40] <weston> Bashing-om: how can I avoid so that, it will show grub always?
[05:40] <Bashing-om> !Grub | weston
[05:41] <sara2010> alkisg  f3ck5
[05:42] <sara2010> alkisg . http://termbin.com/f3ck5
[05:42] <alkisg> sara2010: so, this disk does have shadow. Where did you delete shadow from?
[05:42] <alkisg> sara2010: Ah sorry this is the backup
[05:42] <Bashing-om> weston: ^^ make an edit to the /etc/default/grub file . - remember to run 'sudo update-grub ' to propogate the change .
[05:42] <weston> Bashing-om: What I need to edit?
[05:43] <alkisg> sara2010: ok, now try this: cd /media/92af4d1a-295e-41fa-8c55-2dc3471b6602/etc/; for f in passwd group shadow gshadow; do sudo cp -a ${f}- $f; done
[05:43] <alkisg> sara2010: then reboot in your primary installation
[05:45] <Bashing-om> weston: #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 ; GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true .
[05:45] <weston> Bashing-om: it is like that only
[05:45] <weston> I checked now
[05:46] <sara2010> alkisg . okay
[05:47] <weston> Bashing-om: ohh..should I comment both?
[05:47] <weston> Now it is un-commented.
[05:48] <Bashing-om> weston: "GRUB_DEFAULT=0" what number do you have set .. and what entry do you want as the default ?
[05:48] <weston> 0
[05:48] <sara2010> alkisg ...  there is no user showing to login only guest
[05:48] <weston> I have both 4.10-rc and 4.6 kernel
[05:48] <weston> 4.10 new
[05:48] <weston> and I need to select while booting
[05:49] <jayze> exit
[05:49] <alkisg> sara2010: can you login as guest?
[05:49] <alkisg> sara2010: maybe you misstyped something again...
[05:50] <sara2010> i give this command . cd /media/92af4d1a-295e-41fa-8c55-2dc3471b6602/etc/; for f in passwd group shadow gshadow; do sudo cp -a ${f}- $f; done
[05:55] <weston> Bashing-om: Thank you. I got it working. I disabled both lines and now I could select in grub during booting
[05:58] <Bashing-om> weston: :)
[06:11] <alkisg> If I right click on any flash applet in firefox 56, it crashes. It worked fine in firefox 55. Does right click in flash work fine for anyone in firefox 56?
[06:11] <alkisg> E.g. right click there: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/about/
[06:19] <hateball> alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1720908 ?
[06:19] <hateball> oh nm, applets actually load for you
[06:19] <alkisg> hateball: yes I reported both issues to chriscoulson and he fixed the one you linked, but not the other one
[06:19] <hateball> alkisg: but it is mentioned here I see
[06:20] <alkisg> So I wanted to verify it happens for everyone before I ping him again
[06:20] <weston> Bashing-om: Thank you so much.
[06:21] <Bashing-om> weston: np, glad you got it sorted .
[06:25] <glitsj16> alkisg: Chris already enterd a fix upstream for the context issue, see the last 2 comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1720908
[06:45] <alkisg> glitsj16: thanks, I haven't seen the last comment from chris
[07:14] <jmft2> Hi, is it possible to 'upgrade' my install of Xubuntu 16.04 32bit to a 64bit install, but keeping my packages, files, &c.? I didn't put my /home and /usr directories onto a separate partition when I first installed
[07:15] <Ben64> jmft2: not really
[07:16] <ducasse> jmft2: realistically, you need to reinstall
[07:17] <jmft2> ducasse: Yep, but wouldn't that wipe my /home and /usr?
[07:17] <Ben64> thats what backups are for
[07:17] <ducasse> back up /home, why would you need to save /usr?
[07:17] <Ben64> also, export a list of installed packages
[07:17] <Ben64> then you could just install those afterwards
[07:17] <ducasse> check out apt-clone
[07:19] <jmft2> ducasse: cheers
[07:58] <Sterist> I'm having issues shrinking an unmounted ext4 within an extended partition... gparted doesn't specify an error number or type
[08:00] <Sterist> would a gparted live cd be able to do anything that gparted on the live ubuntu installer can't?
[08:15] <ZiolaBleu> Is there anyone online?
[08:16] <Sterist> Google seems to suggest a swap partition is interfering with ext4 resize, anyone know how to safely discard swap?
[08:16] <onla> Why my chrome cant play this video eventhough it can play some other flash videos https://www.nrk.no/mr/sja-direkte-fra-mannen-1.12012651
[08:16] <onla> workin for ou?
[08:16] <SwedeMike> Sterist: you can use the "swapoff <device>" command to turn off swap. You can see active swap partitions by doing "cat /proc/swaps"
[08:17] <ZiolaBleu> I'm doing a group project with two foreigners who don't speak English and on top of that they don't even speak the same languages. They have contributed nothing and because of them, I'm going to fail this project if I don't get it done by the 10th. Is there any way someone could help me?
[08:18] <ducasse> ZiolaBleu: wrong channel
[08:18] <onla> it's a live stream of a fucking kilometer long mountain going to collapse any time soon, and now my linux is blocking me to see it
[08:18] <ZiolaBleu> I know it's the wrong channel I just don't know where else to go
[08:18] <bazhang> onla, no cursing here
[08:18] <ducasse> ZiolaBleu: then ask in #freenode
[08:29] <onla> can I say *curses*
[08:30] <bazhang> onla, what version of ubuntu is this
[08:30] <onla> 14.04
[08:37] <jmft2> What's the best way to restore a Mac's Time Machine backup onto a Ubuntu machine?
[08:38] <jmft2> I've been using fuse-time-machine (https://github.com/isnotajoke/fuse-time-machine) but some of the files copied over — always binaries, not text files — are corrupted. It appears there's a problem with line breaks
[08:39] <Sterist> is there a root command that won't make nautilus take ownership? or more specifically, for editing /etc/fstab
[08:40] <jmft2> wc says:
[08:40] <jmft2> 6847   37332 1730610 file_on_time_machine_volume
[08:40] <jmft2> 6956   37790 1730610 copied_over_file
[08:40] <lindbergio> Do anyone know if it would be possible to change the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.orientation active' key system wide and not only for a specific user? This a GNOME thing.
[08:51] <danieled> hi all
[08:56] <murii> where is the location of man's directory?
[08:59] <alkisg> I'm trying to download the source of linux-image 4.8 to compare it with 4.10, but both of them get me 4.10. Example:
[08:59] <alkisg> apt source linux-image-4.8.0-58-generic => Skipping already downloaded file 'linux-hwe_4.10.0-35.39~16.04.1.dsc'
[08:59] <alkisg> Where can I find the 4.8 kernel source?
[09:07] <buzo> Hi. How can I draw the maintainer's attention to bug 1713638?
[09:07] <buzo> There seems to be an easy fix available, or maybe it is even fixed upstream already.
[09:08] <buzo> Or should I ask in #ubuntu-kernel?
[09:30] <ducasse> buzo: best thing to do is to add a comment with a link to the fix you're talking about
[09:35] <solars> hi, is there a way to check the syntax of /etc/crontab?
[09:36] <buzo> ducasse: I've done that already.
[09:36] <Sterist> is it ever necessary to leave a small amount of unallocated space between partitions?
[09:36] <buzo> ducasse: There is also a patch attached since 2017-09-17.
[09:37] <alkisg> Sterist: not unless the previous one is misaligned. Use gparted and it'll do the correct thing.
[09:37] <ducasse> buzo: ok, then the maintainer will look at that when he/she can
[09:37] <Sterist> righto. thanks
[09:38] <buzo> ducasse: But the bug is unassigned.
[09:39] <buzo> And it makes kernel 4.11 unusable.
[09:40] <ducasse> 4.11 is not used in any ubuntu release
[09:41] <buzo> ducasse: Wrong. I'm running 16.04 and get it from the package linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04-edge.
[09:43] <buzo> But maybe the edge is too bleeding … ;)
[09:43] <RonaldsMazitis> something is wrong with chromium for ubuntu using openbox
[09:43] <RonaldsMazitis> sometimes it starts to zoom in or out on scroll
[09:44] <RonaldsMazitis> makes impossible to write text in any programm
[09:44] <RonaldsMazitis> + can't get right click on screen
[09:44] <RonaldsMazitis> feels like
[09:45] <Hanumaan> how to repair segmentation fault core dumped python problem in ubuntu
[09:45] <Ben64> Hanumaan: fix your python code
[09:46] <ducasse> buzo: interesting, i thought that was on .13 now. still, you can't really do anything to get your bug report more attention, other than hoping others with the same problem comment on it.
[09:47] <Ben64> buzo: ha, i'm the dude who submitted the patch, use it!
[09:48] <RonaldsMazitis> I could not write text in quassel irc client
[09:48] <RonaldsMazitis> so I had to quit it
[09:48] <RonaldsMazitis> feels like viruses on ubuntu
[09:48] <RonaldsMazitis> or something
[09:48] <RonaldsMazitis> messes with keyboard and mouse
[09:59] <Prokto> Hi, I'm having issues with unattended installation. Is there a good channel to ask questions about this topic?
[10:00] <alkisg> Here is fine
[10:04] <Prokto> Alright, thanks. I'm running into an issue where the installation is interupted by an error. I can continue the installation by manually hitting continue twice and the installation finishes succesfully with a working system at the end. The only discernable error I can find looks like this: https://pastebin.com/C8f1jUfn
[10:07] <Prokto> I'm not sure what I can do to influence in the installation to the point that this error comes up even though this isn't an issue whatsoever in another repository of ours.
[10:08] <Prokto> It complaining that udev is not started confounds me since it's in a chroot and this is, I assume, a step that debootstrap always takes
[10:10] <Prokto> Is there a way to increase log verbosity during installation?
[10:10] <dchotas> Hello guys, on a fresh 17.04 install here and my wireless card seems to be hanging my computer on restart/shutdown. The hang doesn't occur if I'm connected via cable of if my wireless card is turned off altogether. Can anyone help me figure this out and try to fix it?
[10:12] <alkisg> Prokto: do you know about policy wrappers that disable service restarts in chroots?
[10:14] <alkisg> Prokto: first google hit is this: https://jpetazzo.github.io/2013/10/06/policy-rc-d-do-not-start-services-automatically/, to get you going. Some services are clever enough to not run in chroots, for others you need this policy wrapper
[10:15] <ducasse> dchotas: which chipset is this?
[10:16] <timkofu> hi
[10:16] <timkofu> I have made a package with checkinstall
[10:16] <timkofu> but the deb is binary only
[10:16] <timkofu> how can i make a "dev" deb?
[10:16] <Prokto> alkisg, No, I haven't heard of that before. I'll read into it, thank you very much.
[10:16] <alkisg> np
[10:17] <dchotas> ducasse, qca9377
[10:19] <ducasse> dchotas: then not sure, sorry. you could try an older/later kernel.
[10:21] <timkofu> anyone?
[10:21] <buzo> Ben64: Do you have a .deb with that? I just patched the installed version and run «dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source», but I guess this gets overwritten by the next update.
[10:23] <buzo> timkofu: Did you try «apt-get source ‹package›» ?
[10:23] <Sterist> the problems never end. now grub won't start. "error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found" I know what caused this, and I know how to get past it, but once I'm booted up I don't know how to make the fix permanent
[10:25] <Sterist> set root=hd0,msdos5 and set prefix=($root)/boot/grub then insmod normal and insmod will make it load grub
[10:25] <Sterist> I boot ubuntu, run sudo update-grub and it goes thru without errors, but after reboot it's the same problem.
[10:27] <Sterist> when I deleted my swap partition sda5 the other partitions 6 and 7 became 5 and 6, so grub is probably looking in 6
[10:33] <Sterist> anyone know how I can make it stick?
[10:38] <SimonNL> Sterist: I'm not sure but I think you should have ended that line with normal not with insmod
[10:38] <SimonNL> insmod normal, normal
[10:39] <Sterist> yes typo, that's what I did lol
[10:39] <SimonNL> okay
[10:40] <Sterist> still hammering my keyboard for a solution =/ if anyone has ideas I'd love to hear em
[10:41] <SimonNL> Sterist: #grub  you could try there as well.
[10:42] <arunkumar413> my ubuntu is lazy
[10:42] <arunkumar413> how do i troubleshoot it
[10:51] <thnee> When searching for how to force all traffic through a vpn, the recommendation is the remove the existing default gw and add a new one. But how will the VPN itself work if all traffic is routed through the VPN?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:56] <Sterist> would reinstalling grub have potential to cause now problems?
[10:56] <Sterist> btw I did check with the grub channel, still no responses :(
[11:00] <dchotas> Hey BluesKaj o/
[11:01] <BluesKaj> hi dchotas
[11:11] <arunkumar413> lspci | grep VGA commands returns two cotrollers
[11:11] <arunkumar413> which one should I use and install the drivers for
[11:13] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, pastebin your lspci output so we can have a look
[11:14] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: https://pastebin.com/uR7yykAR
[11:16] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: seems like AMD has not released the drivers for 16.04 Ubuntu
[11:21] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, is this a desktop or laptop?
[11:21] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: laptop
[11:22] <BluesKaj> hmm, seems you have some kind of hybrid gpu system which I've never seen before
[11:26] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: may be one is a processor builtin and another is an external graphic card
[11:28] <BluesKaj> check the additional drivers manager
[11:30] <computer2000> How can I see when this package has been updated for the last time? Package: libxinerama1 (2:1.1.3-1)
[11:32] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: You have an APU style GPU / CPU setup
[11:32] <brokencodes> need to install FGLRX
[11:32] <buzo> computer2000: see /var/log/apt/history.log*
[11:33] <BluesKaj> brokencodes, we know what he has, just needs to install from the additional drivers
[11:34] <brokencodes> letting him know he doesnt have a hybrid
[11:34] <brokencodes> its an APU
[11:35] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: what should I do now
[11:36] <brokencodes> in the additional drivers dialog, you should see the option to install amdgpu drivers
[11:36] <brokencodes> in 17* fglrx was depricated, in favor of amdgpu / radeon
[11:37] <BluesKaj> install the recommended driver/fglrx from the additional drivers manager , https://askubuntu.com/questions/856478/radeon-hd-7500m-7600m-series-drivers-for-ubuntu
[11:37] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413,^
[11:37] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: the additional driver doesn't list the drivers
[11:37] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: FGLRX is not available in Ubuntu 17+
[11:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, amdgpu seems to ahve replaced it
[11:38] <brokencodes> amdgpu is not auto selected
[11:38] <brokencodes> he will have to open terminal, and install with apt-get
[11:39] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, are you on 16.04?
[11:39] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: yes
[11:39] <brokencodes> wonderful
[11:40] <brokencodes> sucks, because trident gen2 is not supported before kernel 4.10
[11:41] <brokencodes> arunkumar413, have you updated ubuntu with update manager in the last 5-6 months?
[11:41] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, open a console , sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[11:41] <brokencodes> 16.04 its apt-get
[11:41] <BluesKaj> no it isn'
[11:42] <brokencodes> check my credentials please
[11:44] <BluesKaj> apt install has been around for over 3 yrs
[11:45] <brokencodes> will produce the following when you do it... just say yes...
[11:45] <brokencodes> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:    gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common libavahi-glib1    libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcanberra0 libgconf-2-4 libgconf2-4    libgnome2-0 libgnome2-bin libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0    libgnomevfs2-common libidl-common libidl0 libntdb1 liborbit-2-0 liborbit2    libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a
[11:45] <brokencodes> mysql-server-core-5.6 openjdk-8-jdk-headless    sound-theme-freedesktop  Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  The following extra packages will be installed:    libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1    libdrm2 libepoxy0 libgbm1-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial libllvm3.8v4    libxkbfile1 x11-xkb-utils xfonts-base xserver-common    xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenia
[11:45] <brokencodes> l  Suggested packages:    xfs xserver xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable firmware-amd-graphics  The following packages will be REMOVED:    libgl1-mesa-dri  The following NEW packages will be installed:    libdrm-amdgpu1 libepoxy0 libgbm1-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial    libllvm3.8v4 libxkbfile1 x11-xkb-utils xfonts-base xserver-common    xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xo
[11:45] <brokencodes> rg-video-amdgpu-lts-xenial  The following packages will be upgraded:    libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2
[11:46] <brokencodes> ignore my part about installed packages...
[11:47] <BluesKaj> nice flood there...you dhould know better if you're so cnowledgeable, brokencodes
[11:47] <brokencodes> was a single line.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> knowledgeable
[11:48] <BluesKaj> yeah sureL
[11:49] <brokencodes> look at it... its a single line. I remove all 63 \r and \n
[11:49] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: apt install or apt-get,,,?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> you can use either one
[11:51] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: got a message that there are unmet dependencies
[11:51] <brokencodes> you must do apt update first
[11:51] <brokencodes> sudo apt update
[11:52] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, have you updated and upgraded lately?
[11:52] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: yes
[11:52] <BluesKaj> not just updated but upgraded as well
[11:52] <arunkumar413> i update it regularly
[11:52] <brokencodes> in SF it is 8 to 5
[11:53] <brokencodes> to be sure, please do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[11:54] <Prokto> alkisg, I added a debian package to the installation which creates the policy-rc.d file under /usr/sbin/ like I read in that link you posted however it is installed after the package that is causing the issue. Is there a way to specify the order in which the programs are installed?
[11:55] <brokencodes> rename the deb files, so the first one has a 1 in the beginning of the name, second has 2... and the like
[11:56] <oerheks> hilarious answer ..
[11:57] <brokencodes> that changes the order of dpkg --install *.deb... but I guess I missed the context of the question
[11:58] <oerheks> he thinks a debian package on ubuntu is not the cause of his issue
[11:58] <brokencodes> ...
[11:59] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: brokencodes, updated, upgraded and ran the command but still getting the unmet dependency error:
[11:59] <arunkumar413>  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu :
[11:59] <arunkumar413> Depends: xorg-video-abi-20
[11:59] <arunkumar413>  Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902)
[12:00] <arunkumar413> under additional drivers it says unknown: unknown this device is using an alternate driver
[12:00] <Prokto> brokencodes, The context is that during an unattended installation plymouth complains that it cannot be started since udev is not running. This is all happening in a chroot so it can't start the service anyway. policy-rc.d tells the system not to start the service. I need my debian package that contains policy-rc.d to be installed before the other plymouth at least.
[12:00] <Prokto> The problem is that the unattended installation throws an error during the base system installation that a package could not be configured hence making the unattended installation an attended installation.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, run sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:01] <brokencodes> what is the error thrown?
[12:02] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: I want to use 16.04 only as it's a LTS
[12:02] <arunkumar413> don
[12:02] <arunkumar413> dont want to upgrade the os
[12:02] <brokencodes> full-upgrade is not dist-upgrade
[12:02] <Prokto> "Debootstrap warning - Warning: Failure while configuring required packages." The only discernable error I can find looks like this: https://pastebin.com/C8f1jUfn
[12:03] <brokencodes> BluesKaj is correct, that will force upgrade packages held back, including Xorg-core
[12:03] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413,  full upgrade only upgrades all packages, not the OS release, do-release-upgrade does that
[12:03] <oerheks> Prokto, policy-rc.d is part of the sysv-rc package, why the debian package?
[12:03] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: did full upgrade but still the same error
[12:03] <arunkumar413> unmet dependencies
[12:04] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, try installing xserver-xorg-core
[12:04] <Prokto> oerheks, good question. I have very little idea how I'm supposed to do this best so I'll take a look at that.
[12:05] <brokencodes> you could remove plymouth
[12:06] <brokencodes> Prokto: you could remove plymouth
[12:07] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: installed the xserver org  core
[12:07] <brokencodes> now do the previous
[12:07] <BluesKaj> no errors arunkumar413 ?
[12:07] <arunkumar413> no erros
[12:08] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[12:08] <oerheks> seems like you give random answers to random people, brokencodes, please don't.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> ok now install the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[12:08] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: done
[12:08] <arunkumar413> should I run the update command again to install the driver from additional drivers
[12:09] <brokencodes> oerheks: how is it that you think my answer was random?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, did you install the amdgpu ?
[12:09] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: yes
[12:09] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[12:10] <oerheks> we appreciate volunteers, but this was not helpfull at all, remove plymouth?
[12:10] <brokencodes> oerheks: Plymouth only supplies a graphical boot.
[12:12] <Prokto> That is an option we're considering as a workaround. It is not necessary for us.
[12:12] <brokencodes> oerheks: later after he resolves his issue, he can simply reinstall plymouth
[12:14] <ioria> brokencodes, please run this simulation :  apt-get -s remove plymouth
[12:14] <brokencodes> oerheks: although I still cannot understand why anyone would want to install a debian package in an ubuntu distrubution... similar, yes, but different enough to become a nightmare later
[12:15] <brokencodes> iora, I dont have to, I dont run plymouth / plymouthd on any of my systems...
[12:15] <ioria> brokencodes,  ok, so half of your x-system will be removed
[12:15] <brokencodes> windows here, but ubuntu on all my workstations / servers
[12:16] <ioria> brokencodes,  so, please don't recommend it
[12:17] <brokencodes> umm...
[12:17] <brokencodes> more than just one way to do what I said...
[12:18] <Prokto> this is a server installation. No gui is needed whatsoever. however apparently mountall requires plymouth.
[12:20] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: it got stuck at the login screen
[12:21] <arunkumar413> Nothing responds
[12:21] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: is the login screen blinking?
[12:21] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: no
[12:21] <Prokto> The devices this is meant for do not communicate with the outside world. We pull the packages and create and iso with all packages we need including some from our own repo.
[12:23] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: how to switch to console n roll back the driver
[12:24] <brokencodes> CTRL+ALT+F3
[12:24] <brokencodes> ^ arunkumar413
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | arunkumar413
[12:26] <Prokto> brokencodes, I'm going to try renaming the debian package to see if that gets the package installed first. We need a permanent fix but a hotfix would allow us to work so I'm gonna give it a try. Quick and easy to test.
[12:28] <brokencodes> If it works, its because of my random nonsensical answer...
[12:28] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: it's not switching to console
[12:28] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: CTRL+ALT+F3
[12:29] <arunkumar413> Yes I did press that
[12:29] <arunkumar413> Nothing happens
[12:29] <arunkumar413> The screen is freezed
[12:29] <brokencodes> do you have a FN button on this laptop?
[12:29] <arunkumar413> At the login
[12:29] <arunkumar413> Yes have fn button
[12:30] <brokencodes> CTRL+ALT+FN+F3
[12:30] <arunkumar413> Its hp g6 notebook
[12:30] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: nothing happened
[12:30] <brokencodes> ok
[12:31] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: reboot and on grub menu select ubuntu rescue mode...
[12:31] <arunkumar413> How do i select on boot
[12:31] <arunkumar413> I don't see any option while booting
[12:31] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: do you have grub menu at all?
[12:31] <arunkumar413> I don't know
[12:32] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: is your home directory encrypted?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, ok try the rescue mode in grub if you grub isnn't auto boting theOS
[12:32] <arunkumar413> How do I know it now. It's not responding
[12:32] <IhrFussel> Does performance decrease if I append lines to a very long file vs a short file? Let's say 5 million lines vs 1 million ... is there a difference?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> auto booting
[12:32] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: to reboot, hold power for 6-10 seconds...
[12:33] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: how do i gomto rescue mode while booting
[12:33] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: if you shutdown ubuntu incorrectly, like I'm telling you to... it should give boot options menu, from grub
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hold the left shift key down right  after the post/bios page
[12:34] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413,^
[12:37] <brokencodes> IhrFussel: yes, in some cases it can, it depends how you are appending... for instance one tool I run, using nohup can create a file over 80MB in size, and it slows down... but it's not always so... it depends how the file is written
[12:38] <IhrFussel> brokencodes, in my case the log file gets written by a c++ file handler
[12:40] <brokencodes> IhrFussel: best answer I can give is sometimes.
[12:40] <brokencodes> IhrFussel: as I dont know how the file handler is "handling" the file
[12:41] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: are you still here?
[12:42] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: it's not going to console
[12:43] <brokencodes> while the PC is booting, hold right shift key
[12:43] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: sorry, left shift key
[12:44] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: i tried both keys
[12:44] <arunkumar413> Going into gui
[12:44] <brokencodes> ok
[12:45] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: this time, try repeatedly and quickly hitting the left shift key after powerup...
[12:45] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: so turn it on, wait 1/2 second... and repeatedly and quickly press the left shift key
[12:46] <IhrFussel> IIRC it works with Esc
[12:46] <brokencodes> arunkumar413^^^ also try
[12:48] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: I dont remember if fglrx-amdcccle is available in ubuntu 16.04
[12:48] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: it appears to be...
[12:49] <arunkumar413> But now its noy even going into console to rollback the driver
[12:49] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: we may have to use liveCD
[12:50] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: i don't have a live cs
[12:50] <arunkumar413> Cd
[12:50] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: have a usb stick?
[12:50] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: no
[12:51] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: did you try ESC ?
[12:52] <arunkumar413> Yes, i takes to boot options
[12:52] <brokencodes> good
[12:53] <brokencodes> does boot options screen say "ubuntu" on it?
[12:53] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: but while installing I didn't create a recovery partition
[12:53] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: thats fine...
[12:54] <arunkumar413> Pressing f9 gives me two ubuntu options
[12:54] <brokencodes> what options are those?
[12:54] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EdAnwpIb/irccloudcapture-1521563030.jpg
[12:55] <brokencodes> select either of those, and immediately start pressing esc after pressing enter...
[12:55] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CMg1dCYS/irccloudcapture-1110226055.jpg
[12:56] <brokencodes> should give you menu
[12:56] <brokencodes> advanced system options for ubuntu
[12:57] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jZSbJmH8/irccloudcapture-1045908143.jpg
[12:57] <brokencodes> 3rd line says recovery mode
[12:57] <arunkumar413> Not sure why there r so many same entries
[12:57] <brokencodes> select it and hit enter
[12:57] <brokencodes> because there is an entry for every kernel installed
[12:58] <arunkumar413> Selected recovery. Hope it will load
[12:58] <brokencodes> it will
[12:58] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tKZq0ihr/irccloudcapture969000526.jpg
[12:58] <brokencodes> drop to root shell prompt
[12:59] <brokencodes> Or you can chose run in failsafeX
[13:01] <vegombrei> hi, whats a good free VPN i could use with ubuntu?
[13:01] <brokencodes> provider? or application?
[13:01] <oerheks> VPN is already in networkmanager
[13:02] <brokencodes> exactly
[13:02] <vegombrei> im guessing both ?
[13:02] <oerheks> vegombrei, we are not the yellow pages, just technical support.
[13:02] <vegombrei> so how do i set it up
[13:03] <brokencodes> need to know what kind of vpn you have subscribed to... before anyone here can help...
[13:03] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: in root shell now
[13:03] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[13:03] <vegombrei> oerheks: big deal if someone can answer and help me here how does it matter if youre a peon ?
[13:03] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: apt install fglrx-amdcccle
[13:04] <oerheks> vegombrei, sure, that would be technical support
[13:04] <vegombrei> well thanks
[13:04] <oerheks> we just don't advise on providers
[13:04] <vegombrei> ah
[13:04] <brokencodes> vegombrei: no one here can help you set up a vpn until you have selected a provider...
[13:04] <arunkumar413> After going to root sheel it again went back to recovery menu and is not responding
[13:05] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: well, we have to hard boot and catch the boot again...
[13:05] <vegombrei> i understand but i need to have an option of providers, as of now i dont know any providers , im reading up on that link its got information
[13:05] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: catch it with f9, select ubuntu, and smash the esc key fast fast again
[13:06] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: pressed f9
[13:06] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Njj5X7IE/irccloudcapture-326438751.jpg
[13:07] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: top line
[13:07] <brokencodes> vegombrei: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vpn+providers+supporting+ubuntu
[13:07] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: be sure to catch the boot with esc
[13:07] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HAoJmBfF/irccloudcapture-1236807371.jpg
[13:08] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: advanced options
[13:08] <vegombrei> brokencodes: thanks
[13:09] <eterno> We extreme the dangeroud
[13:09] <oerheks> lmgtfy is against the channel policy
[13:09] <vegombrei> btw you guys should know im beginning to think vpn doesnt really work, well with movie sites etc mebbe but ive been trying vpns on my mac and trying to set up a new gmail account and somehow vpn doesnt work they know my location now im trying thru my ubuntu desktop
[13:09] <brokencodes> oerheks: so is calling you a peon...
[13:10] <eterno> Check brpwser apps
[13:10] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2fNc7Jwy/irccloudcapture-573074689.jpg
[13:10] <eterno> Browser apps for vpn
[13:10] <brokencodes> with VPN providers, you get what you pay for...
[13:10] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: yes
[13:11] <vegombrei> LOL that peon part was a typo
[13:11] <vegombrei> i actually meant to type bot
[13:11] <vegombrei> dunno how that happened
[13:11] <brokencodes> Freudian slip
[13:12] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1kCQkrVW/irccloudcapture-2143625386.jpg
[13:12] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: yes
[13:12] <vegombrei> you know one of em bots that kick you out if you chat abusive or something
[13:12] <arunkumar413> I selected rootshell but again it came back to this screen
[13:12] <oerheks> !coc | brokencodes, please read this,  you are starting to get annoying
[13:12] <brokencodes> next time select failsafeX
[13:14] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, you nay need to eenable networking first before you update/upgrade/install remove anything with apt
[13:14] <vegombrei> hey is there like an underground ubuntu channel where one can talk all kinds of illegal stuff and hacking etc ??
[13:14] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: we removed the driver not sure if failsafe x works
[13:14] <BluesKaj> vegombrei, nope
[13:14] <brokencodes> oerheks: I was sticking up for you, attempting not to be rude, and slam the door in the face of someone clearly wanting help from us to pirate movies, and stay within the guidelines... I forgot the lmgtfy thing, but really? Annoying?
[13:15] <oerheks> vegombrei,  not on #freenode
[13:15] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: failsafex should use the vga driver.
[13:15] <arunkumar413> this screen is lazy not responding to arrow keys https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QUZS2x6N/irccloudcapture1216946178.jpg
[13:17] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: hopefully BluesKaj can help you, I unfortunately have to step down, as some of the others in here have a problem with me...
[13:17] <BluesKaj> sorry arunkumar413, i had some connection troubles here .. trying to figure out what you've done
[13:18] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: I sincerely wish you luck
[13:18]  * vegombrei well should we make one ??
[13:18] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: :(
[13:18] <BluesKaj> vegombrei, stop this illegal stuff, it's not supported here, then go away
[13:18] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: amdgpu doesnt work for him, he needs fglrx-amdcccle, he unfortunately is having issues getting to root shell, and doesnt have an ubuntu live CD nor USB stick to work with
[13:20] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: I suggested failsafeX and thats where we were... also of misfortune, is the fact that after the first selection he has to reboot to regain control
[13:20] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: trying to get into the root shell to install the correct driver
[13:20] <BluesKaj> ouinds like an xorg problem if his mouse isn't responding
[13:21] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: in order to get to rescue, he has to catch boot with F9, select one of his raid volumes (seems mirrored with llvm), and immediately start hitting ESC, because LFT Shift doesnt work
[13:21] <brokencodes> I will leave, because I somehow annoy oerheks.
[13:21] <arunkumar413> this sceen is lazy nor responding to arrow keys https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VdBbwMVy/irccloudcapture1731432289.jpg
[13:22] <vegombrei> brokencodes: awwww
[13:22] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, yes I saw that
[13:22] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: I hope i brought you up to speed.
[13:23] <ghost-287> is there an alternative to teamviewer?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> hmm lvm/raid is a different story, but live media to help this situation , arunkumar413 think you need a live image to work with here
[13:24] <brokencodes> ghost-287: tightVNC / Remote Desktop
[13:24] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: he has simple raid... its simply mirrored
[13:24] <ghost-287> thank you i ll try this
[13:26] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: any questions before I leave? I think I covered everything...
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well if the arrowe keys aren't responding then xorg is somehow affected
[13:26] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: in the root shell now
[13:26] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: apt install fglrx-amdcccle
[13:28] <ghost-287> brokencodes, c est  xtightvncviewer  ??
[13:28] <ghost-287> brokencodes, oupss, it s xtightvncviewer ?
[13:28] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GLrT1v9Q/irccloudcapture696415645.jpg
[13:28] <brokencodes> yes
[13:28] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, do you have networking then install fglrx-amdcccle
[13:28] <ghost-287> ty
[13:28] <arunkumar413> Unable to locate package
[13:28] <arunkumar413> Is it connected to internet
[13:29] <brokencodes> you have to enable networking
[13:29] <brokencodes> are you using wifi?
[13:29] <oerheks> fglrx-amdcccle is old, xserver-xorg-video-radeon is current
[13:29] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: yes i have WiFi
[13:30] <arunkumar413> How do i connect
[13:30] <brokencodes> oerheks: he has apu / trident 2
[13:32] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: ifconfig command doesn't show WiFi device
[13:32] <brokencodes> ubuntu stopped supporting this APU in 2015... officially... Radeon HD driver works, but overworks the fans.
[13:33] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: you will need to start networking service with the "Start networking" option in recovery menu
[13:33] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bzdXzMYM/irccloudcapture-269827815.jpg
[13:33] <BluesKaj> thanks for the heads up oerheks, my knowledge about amd driver is rather linited, I see it's limited to trusty 14.04
[13:35] <brokencodes> oerheks: BluesKaj: refer to the following: https://community.amd.com/thread/210222
[13:35] <oerheks> trident is really old indeed, xserver-xorg-video-trident should have been installed AFAIK
[13:35] <brokencodes> no... not trident VGA... Trident APU... he has AMD A10, or A12, with Radeon HD 7650m
[13:36] <brokencodes> it's Trident 2 archetecture from AMD
[13:36] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: its amd A8
[13:36] <brokencodes> same
[13:36] <brokencodes> its APU
[13:36] <brokencodes> I have a G7 here with the same beaver Family 15 chip in it...
[13:36] <oerheks> ah, my bad, i didn't catch that with all the previous attempts
[13:37] <brokencodes> I can get him up and running, but believe me, I'm not trying to annoy anyone
[13:37] <arunkumar413> selected networking in recovery options https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/O5oWKZpH/irccloudcapture-1068828537.jpg
[13:38] <arunkumar413> It's taking lot of time
[13:39] <arunkumar413> Cant i enable networking from command line
[13:39] <brokencodes> we gonna do something new
[13:40] <arunkumar413> Okay
[13:40] <brokencodes> hold power till it dies, and boot up same as last time, with F9
[13:40] <BluesKaj>  /etc/resolv.conf seems to ahve a problem there
[13:40] <brokencodes> hit esc after selecting the top line of the boot menu
[13:41] <brokencodes> BluesKaj: network cant write to disk, because RO
[13:41] <BluesKaj> no kidding
[13:42] <arunkumar413> brokencodes:  should i select advanced options
[13:42] <brokencodes> no
[13:42] <brokencodes> put cursor on top of ubuntu and press e
[13:42] <arunkumar413> System setup?
[13:42] <brokencodes> send me screen shot
[13:42] <arunkumar413> Okay
[13:43] <brokencodes> we will force text boot
[13:44] <arunkumar413> Im in some set params screen
[13:44] <brokencodes> show please
[13:44] <brokencodes> almost there, I promise
[13:46] <arunkumar413> https://photos.app.goo.gl/67sATCJut30Z8FnE2
[13:46] <arunkumar413> I reached the irc app upload limit. Sharing from google photos
[13:46] <brokencodes> give me a minute
[13:46] <skinux> nginx error log says /var/www/html is forbidden....?
[13:49] <zarzar> i think i wrecked my ubuntu vm by remove libxml* packages, gnome was relying on some libxml i think, any idea how to recover?
[13:49] <zarzar> i think i wrecked my ubuntu vm by remove libxml* packages, gnome was relying on some libxml i think, any idea how to recover?
[13:49] <zarzar> sorry for repeqat
[13:52] <brokencodes> ok
[13:52] <arunkumar413> :)
[13:52] <brokencodes> reboot the machine
[13:53] <arunkumar413> :(
[13:53] <brokencodes> we have to do this in perfect order
[13:53] <arunkumar413> Ok
[13:53] <brokencodes> f9 catch the boot
[13:53] <brokencodes> then top line of boot menu, then immediately press esc
[13:54] <arunkumar413> On the top line
[13:54] <brokencodes> to let you know, I perposely broke my machine, so I could help you fix yours
[13:54] <brokencodes> purposely...
[13:54] <arunkumar413> Should I press enter and escape
[13:54] <brokencodes> yes
[13:54] <arunkumar413> Or just escape
[13:54] <brokencodes> enter, then escape escape escape
[13:54] <brokencodes> like last 3 times
[13:55] <arunkumar413> In the grub screen now
[13:55] <brokencodes> we go to older kernel
[13:55] <brokencodes> so second recovery screen
[13:55] <brokencodes> second recovery option in advanced
[13:55] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/j4ZA05Oa/irccloudcapture-658761537.jpg
[13:55] <gsharp_> I want to install Ubuntu in my laptop...Currently I am using Windows 10 64bit (Legacy) and have MBR partitioned. What should be the best approach. Thanks for the help in advanced :)
[13:56] <brokencodes> ?
[13:56] <arunkumar413> U told press enter n esc
[13:56] <brokencodes> ...
[13:57] <brokencodes> in boot menu (bios boot selection from F9, select top line with enter, then press escape several times till ubuntu grub menu shows
[13:57] <arunkumar413> Should i go to advanced options n select older kernel
[13:58] <brokencodes> yes
[13:58] <brokencodes> older kernel, recovery
[13:58] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3JB4mhYq/irccloudcapture1577948834.jpg
[13:58] <arunkumar413> Okay. Which kernel
[13:58] <brokencodes> bottom line
[13:59] <arunkumar413> Now in recovery menu
[13:59] <arunkumar413> Root shell?
[13:59] <brokencodes> network enable first
[13:59] <brokencodes> then second, failsafeX
[14:00] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wc2La9DN/irccloudcapture-1892534435.jpg
[14:00] <arunkumar413> Selected network enable getting this message
[14:01] <brokencodes> I know
[14:01] <brokencodes> see if you can CTRL+ALT+F3 and get a console
[14:02] <arunkumar413> A blank screen with cursor
[14:02] <arunkumar413> Blinking cursor
[14:02] <brokencodes> CTRL+ALT+F4
[14:02] <arunkumar413> Nothing happens
[14:03] <brokencodes> then go back to other cosole with CTRL+ALT+F1
[14:03] <arunkumar413> Same black screen with blinking cursor
[14:03] <arunkumar413> Done
[14:03] <brokencodes> we have to wait... for network to fail
[14:03] <brokencodes> has it changed at all?
[14:04] <arunkumar413> It's not failed. What is the time out to fail
[14:04] <brokencodes> either 2 mins 59 seconds, or 5 mins
[14:04] <arunkumar413> Should i.press the WiFi button in keyboard to interrupt
[14:05] <niko1990> Hello
[14:05] <brokencodes> you can try
[14:05] <arunkumar413> In the recovery menu again
[14:06] <brokencodes> ok
[14:06] <brokencodes> root
[14:06] <brokencodes> root shell
[14:06] <arunkumar413> In the root shell now
[14:07] <arunkumar413> It asked to enter for maintenance
[14:07] <niko1990> Is there a software with that i can record/stream my screen in a "hidden" way? Like no red blinking "record" button, or something like that. And I need to be able to start recording/streaming on boot automatically... Is that possible?
[14:07] <brokencodes> apt remove xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[14:07] <arunkumar413> Or ctrl-d to continue
[14:07] <brokencodes> enter
[14:08] <brokencodes> mount -o remount,rw /
[14:08] <arunkumar413> Removed
[14:08] <brokencodes> reboot
[14:09] <arunkumar413> Is that mount command for me?
[14:09] <brokencodes> no, I thought you would mount RO
[14:09] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: type reboot now
[14:10] <arunkumar413> I'm comfused. Should i run the mount command
[14:10] <skinux> Is this a good tutorial? https://www.ivankristianto.com/howto-make-swap-file-in-ubuntu/
[14:10] <brokencodes> no... just "reboot now"
[14:10] <arunkumar413> While rebooting should i enter any button
[14:10] <brokencodes> if apt remove xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu removed it, then you are already RW mounted
[14:10] <arunkumar413> Or normal reboot
[14:10] <brokencodes> normal boot
[14:11] <arunkumar413> Hope it works
[14:12] <brokencodes> me too...
[14:12] <arunkumar413> I have to take some backups
[14:12]  * brokencodes crosses fingers
[14:12] <arunkumar413> Same stuck at the login screen
[14:12] <skinux> Well, I hope it was, because I just used it to configure swapfile, since my system keeps lagging out as if it needs the SWAP.
[14:12] <arunkumar413> :(
[14:13] <brokencodes> arun, can you get a console with CTRL+ALT+F3?
[14:14] <tomeaton17> Some how my local settings specifically LANGUAGE and LC_ALL have been unset. How do I set these back?
[14:14] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: not going to console
[14:15] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: do you have another PC?
[14:15] <arunkumar413> No,.only mobile
[14:15] <brokencodes> is mobile on wifi?
[14:15] <arunkumar413> Yes
[14:16] <brokencodes> I'm assuming mobile is android, correct?
[14:16] <arunkumar413> Yes
[14:16] <arunkumar413> With marshmallow
[14:16] <brokencodes> open android market, install connectbot
[14:16] <brokencodes> do you know what the last IP address was that your pc got from wifi router?
[14:17] <arunkumar413> There r many connect bots
[14:17] <arunkumar413> No
[14:18] <brokencodes> ConnectBot by Kenny Root
[14:18] <brokencodes> it is an SSH client'
[14:19] <arunkumar413> Installed
[14:19] <brokencodes> slide notification bar down from the top 2 times, and touch the gear, on your phone, we will get your IP
[14:20] <brokencodes> what make of phone is this?
[14:20] <arunkumar413> Moto g3
[14:20] <brokencodes> good
[14:20] <brokencodes> vanilla android ftw
[14:21] <brokencodes> bottom of settings, about phone
[14:21] <arunkumar413> It's marshmallow
[14:21] <brokencodes> I know, we are getting IP address
[14:21] <brokencodes> status
[14:21] <arunkumar413> How to get the ip address
[14:22] <brokencodes> I'm telling you
[14:22] <brokencodes> :)
[14:22] <brokencodes> Gear | about phone | Status
[14:22] <brokencodes> should show wifi address
[14:23] <arunkumar413> 192.168.1.5
[14:23] <arunkumar413> fe80::a670:d6ff:fe88:9ab8
[14:23] <brokencodes> perfect
[14:23] <brokencodes> How many other devices are on your wifi router?
[14:23] <gsharp_> Ubuntu setup in a windows laptop
[14:23] <gsharp_> mbr partitioned
[14:24] <arunkumar413> I'm not sure if my laptop is connected now
[14:24] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: how many devices would you assume are connect to your wifi router ATM?
[14:24] <brokencodes> we will assume it is
[14:24] <arunkumar413> Now only my mobike seem to be connected
[14:25] <brokencodes> Is the wifi light on laptop on? or is it still disabled from earlier?
[14:25] <arunkumar413> Yes on
[14:25] <brokencodes> ok
[14:25] <brokencodes> then lets try
[14:25] <slipttees> Hi guys. Libreoffice Ubuntu 16.04 is 5.1.6 and libreoffice website version stable is 5.3.6. why no update repo?
[14:26] <slipttees> LTS use older firefox :/
[14:26] <slipttees> ops
[14:26] <slipttees> Libreoffice
[14:26] <arunkumar413> Laptop gone to black screen. But power button is on
[14:27] <brokencodes> LTS == Long Term Support. Newer applications require updates sometimes at system level...
[14:27] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: screen went to sleep... space bar slap will waker it
[14:27] <brokencodes> wake*
[14:27] <brokencodes> LTS releases are not bleeding edge releases, instead looking for stability, and offering bugfixes.
[14:27] <arunkumar413> No. It's not waking
[14:27] <slipttees> brokencodes: but libreoffice than important, maybe get 5.3.6 inside 16.04.3
[14:28] <arunkumar413> Should i hard reboot
[14:28] <brokencodes> try connecting to pc with connectbot...
[14:28] <brokencodes> enter in hosname field YOURUSERNAME@192.168.1.4
[14:28] <slipttees> brokencodes: Libreoffice 5.3.6 stable version, better 5.1.6 :/
[14:29] <arunkumar413> Is username the laptop host name?
[14:29] <arunkumar413> Or just a ramdom name for time being
[14:29] <neurre> hi
[14:30] <neurre> why is /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ not in ld search path?
[14:30] <brokencodes> username is your username in ubuntu
[14:30] <brokencodes> slipttees: Libreoffice 5.2 was feature release... only help file bugfix...
[14:30] <arunkumar413> Ok
[14:31] <brokencodes> should ask you to accept a key
[14:31] <arunkumar413> In connect bot what other settings should i select
[14:31] <arunkumar413> Apart from user name
[14:31] <brokencodes> ssh, thats it
[14:31] <brokencodes> username@192.168.1.4
[14:31] <slipttees> brokencodes: i want 5.3.6 in oficial repo ;-)
[14:32] <slipttees> brokencodes: i have more than 200 machines for update 14.04 lts to 16.04.3, and libreoffice are older :-(
[14:32] <brokencodes> sliptees: I want Time Machines sold at toyota dealerships... unfortunately for both of us, its not how either company's business model works
[14:33] <slipttees> brokencodes: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.3
[14:34] <arunkumar413> 192.168.1.4 or 1.5
[14:34] <brokencodes> 1.5 is your phone
[14:34] <brokencodes> 1.4 might be your PC, we will hope
[14:35] <brokencodes> otherwise, you need livecd to fix it...
[14:35] <Prokto> Does anyone know a way to increase the verbosity of debootstrap during base system installation?
[14:36] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?
[14:36] <arunkumar413> Tried both 1.4 and 1.5
[14:36] <brokencodes> try 1.3
[14:36] <arunkumar413> Not connecting
[14:36] <brokencodes> 1.1 should be router
[14:36] <brokencodes> 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.6 may be your pc
[14:37] <arunkumar413> Hw can it connect to laptop. laptop itself seem to be not connected to wifi
[14:37] <brokencodes> does wifi light blink when connected?
[14:38] <skinux> When a web-based software installer needs write permission, what should it be? I know 777 is a horrible idea.
[14:38] <brokencodes> 0644
[14:38] <skinux> For directory?
[14:39] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: no
[14:40] <skinux> 0644 is for non-writable files
[14:40] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: does your wifi light blink, or what indication do you get that it is connected to wifi, besides wifi icon on screen?
[14:40] <arunkumar413> the laptop is blank now
[14:40] <arunkumar413> I don't think it connect ti wifi without logging in
[14:40] <brokencodes> only graphics is blank... CPU still working in back
[14:41] <arunkumar413> Yes, but we're not authenticated to work with laptop
[14:41] <innovate41> Hey anyone seen this thing where upstart reports a service running but then it actually isnt?
[14:41] <brokencodes> unless you have to manually connect to wifi on startup, wifi is connected by NetworkManager which is a service
[14:41] <oerheks> slipttees, maybe you want the LO ppa, it gives 5.4.1  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[14:42] <arunkumar413> As it's blank screen now should i reboot
[14:42] <slipttees> oerheks: ok. I don't like ppa! Libreoffice 5.3.6 oficial ubuntu better choice kkk
[14:42] <skinux> if g+w makes writable, does g-w make it non-writable?
[14:43] <brokencodes> yes
[14:43] <jer> g+w makes group writable only, and g-w makes it unwritable for the group
[14:43] <brokencodes> -w no write perms
[14:43] <jer> any arbitrary user may still be able to write to it
[14:43] <jer> if they have permissions through u or o
[14:43] <skinux> g+w didn't make it writable
[14:43] <oerheks> slipttees, it won't land in 16.04, maybe you can open an SRU
[14:43] <oerheks> !sru
[14:44] <skinux> Got it.
[14:44] <jer> skinux, i'm pretty sure it did =] you just may not be in the group that owns the file
[14:44] <jer> k
[14:44] <skinux> It didn't have the proper ownership that i thought it had.
[14:45] <VlanX> Hello guys, please I need urgent help on this problem: I have extreme latency with NFS mounts , as the navigation between folders takes minutes to load. Do you belive that any of these parameters can be causing this?    auto,noatime,nolock,bg,intr,tcp,timeo=100,actimeo=1800  0  0
[14:46] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kjT9SZLE/irccloudcapture1896957118.jpg
[14:46] <brokencodes> looks connected to me
[14:46] <arunkumar413> I don't think it can connect without logging in
[14:47] <brokencodes> up down arrows shows is connected
[14:47] <arunkumar413> If connected it shows WiFi symbol
[14:47] <brokencodes> login screen doesnt show wifi symbol
[14:47] <arunkumar413> Okay
[14:47] <brokencodes> mine does same thing
[14:48] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: please install network scanner in android phone
[14:49] <brokencodes> by easy mobile tools
[14:51] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: it shows only one device connected to router
[14:51] <innovate41> hi guys ubuntu uses systemd these days right ? or upstart ?
[14:51] <arunkumar413> My mobile
[14:51] <VlanX> please don't reply all togheter
[14:51] <arunkumar413> Doesn't show the laptop
[14:51] <arunkumar413> P
[14:51] <VlanX> can't keep up
[14:51] <brokencodes> welp... you need livecd or ubuntu boot usb stick to fix it...
[14:52] <arunkumar413> brokencodes: can we do it via micro usb cable
[14:52] <brokencodes> Vlanx someone will answer your question when a qualified person sees it...
[14:53] <innovate41> also why do i have 2 .service files in /lib/systemd/system   openvpn.service and openvpn@.service  ?
[14:53] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: unfortunately, you need root on laptop, and a console, to set up a virtual terminal with getty for android
[14:54] <innovate41> innovate41:   never mind i got the answer
[14:55] <brokencodes> arunkumar413: I must leave now for work...
[14:56] <brokencodes> try to get ahold of a usb stick today, or get someone to write a cd for you with ubuntu 16.04 on it...
[14:56] <brokencodes> live or installer
[14:56] <arunkumar413> I'll geta usb stick
[14:57] <arunkumar413> Can u share the summary of things to do after getting the live usb stick
[14:59] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: u there
[14:59] <pavlos> VlanX: http://osr507doc.xinuos.com/en/PERFORM/NFS_tuning.html ... maybe add rsize=1024,wsize=1014
[14:59] <BluesKaj> yes  arunkumar413 ?
[15:00] <arunkumar413> Once i have the live usb stick what should i do
[15:00] <VlanX> pavlos: thank you , lemme try
[15:00] <arunkumar413> Is there any other way to go to console and connect to WiFi
[15:01] <jer> there's a long delay between when my bt keyboard loses connection to ubuntu and when it comes back (usually happens during low battery conditions) -- on ubuntu takes about 90 seconds for it to come back, but on osx less than 5. thoughts?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> I don't what you did since I was busy with other things, arunkumar413 ...got tired of the interference from certain parties so i moved on.
[15:05] <adrian_1908> I just ran an apt update and got new Nvidia drivers. During installation it read "unable to delete old directory '/etc/OpenCL/vendors'" and the same for several other directories. Does anyone know if this is ok, or is some manual cleanup advisable?
[15:06] <arunkumar413> We just removed a amdgpu
[15:08] <adrian_1908> Things like `/usr/lib/nvidia-vvv` were among those too. In fact, it looks like these dirs contains broken symlinks.
[15:10] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: in the rootshell can we load the basic vga driver
[15:12] <Asad2005> I tried installing ubuntu-dock on 17.10 from extention tab in tweaks but nothing happen it seems to fail
[15:13] <nacc> !ubuntu+1 | Asad2005
[15:16] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: did you run the nvidia installer as root? also you need to run it with the gui not running
[15:17] <zarzar> can i boot ubuntu (via vbox) into a command line only mode? my 16lts vm does not complete boot
[15:17] <arunkumar413> EriC^^:  i have amd graphics
[15:18] <EriC^^> zarzar: in grub press "e" over ubuntu and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz quiet splash and remove quiet splash and put "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"
[15:18] <EriC^^> and press f10 or ctrl+x to boot
[15:18] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: oh sorry, i meant to highlight adrian_1908
[15:19] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: howdy. I ran `sudo apt full-upgrade` and the proprietary drivers arrived that way.
[15:20] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: Is there a way I can recover the output of the apt command? I already closed that terminal.
[15:21] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?
[15:21] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: nevermind, I should have done a websearch, found it!
[15:24] <adrian_1908> Here are the relevant parts of the log: https://pastebin.com/R1LYjc81
[15:25] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: try "apt-cache policy nvidia-384"
[15:27] <slee> hi, i have a 2nd box, i remote desktop to it with vnc, the 2nd box doesn't have a monitor, so when i go to settings > display, it sees there isn't a monitor so i can't set the screen resolution, it's defaulting to like 1024x...how can i manully tell it to use a higher res...the gfx card in it is capable of higher res
[15:28] <zarzar> looks like Light Display Manager fails to start in endless loop, stop, start etc...
[15:28] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: Looks good to me. I'm certain that 384 installed fine, I was just wondering if the old stuff not being cleanly deleted is an issue. Thanks to the apt log, I can do so manually.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but you're gonna need an ethernet connection to do this...the wifi connection driver comes later
[15:29] <nacc> slee: you need to adjust the vncserver's resolution
[15:29] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: it did mention some errors
[15:29] <nacc> slee: it has nothign to do with your desktop
[15:29] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: can't i connect to wifi using command line
[15:29] <anddam> hello, I have a multiboot with windows10, I installed the MS System Update Something Something while in W10 and it screwed it Windows Boot Manager that was chainloaded from grub. Now I copied back the UEFI boot loader and it works when manually called from firmware, however os-prober doesn't see the windows entry anymore
[15:29] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: try dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[15:30] <zarzar> Eric^^: pressing e did not work, i think because of failed light display manager and failed start to detect available gous
[15:30] <nacc> slee: you don't even need a graphics card on the 2nd box in order to use vnc, afaik
[15:30] <anddam> does os-prober rely on the installed systems, on the bootloader or what else?
[15:31] <anddam> nvm, I just re-tried os-prober after rebooting and it does indeed see the windows bootloader
[15:31] <zarzar> gpus***
[15:31] <arunkumar413> Or can i launch x window server from command line
[15:31] <anddam> sorry for the noise
[15:32] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, did you read what i posted above?
[15:32] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?
[15:33] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj:  u said i need a Ethernet first
[15:33] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: Is there something I should be looking for in that output? All listed items are "rc" (first column). Only nvidia related item: "nvidia-opencl-icd-375    384.90-0ubuntu2    amd64    Transitional package for nvidia-opencl-icd-384"
[15:33] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: "rc" is ok, that just means the config files are left over but it's removed
[15:33] <anddam> different topic, is there a way to assign a name for a third linux system that appears as "unknown Linux distribution"?
[15:33] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: Ok, thanks!
[15:34] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: i guess it's all good then :)
[15:34] <EriC^^> no problem
[15:34] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: I'll just remove the old driver version dirs (with broken symlinks) and of course leave the non version-specific dirs intact.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yes, ethernet much simpler/automatic arunkumar413, then after the gpu driver is installed we can work on the wifi driver
[15:35] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: sounds good
[15:39] <arunkumar413> There r no problem with wifi why isn't turning on root shell
[15:40] <oerheks> arunkumar413,  making wifi work in root is harder than just grabbing a cable to fix this.
[15:40] <arunkumar413> Tried ifconfig waln0 up command n also network-manager command also
[15:48] <arunkumar413> Whr r the files stored which r imported through shotwell
[15:49] <zarzar> can i unmount the /dev file system while running from it? my ubuntu vm is in emergency mode, need to check file system
[15:50] <leftyfb> zarzar: you need to do that outside your filesystem. As in with a live cd/usb.
[15:51] <oerheks> arunkumar413, Shotwell >  Edit -> Preferences. In the Preferences dialog you can see the library directory
[15:51] <oerheks> not sure, but here i see it in ~/Pictures
[15:53] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, dn't use textspeak on irc like "u" and "r" etc., use real words please
[15:53] <zarzar> leftyfb: ok
[16:01] <Trangar> Hello, I'm running out of space in my home dir and I know my server has more physical hard drive space, but I don't have physical access to my server, is there a way to increase the home dir size without taking it down? df is https://pastebin.com/4sG0Hfw6
[16:02] <nacc> Trangar: you have 9G free?
[16:02] <Trangar> nacc: not once I start compiling a project
[16:03] <nacc> Trangar: how much more space do you need? you only have ~ 4.5G more to take from /
[16:03] <nacc> (based upon current partitioning)
[16:03] <Trangar> nacc: I have a 160GB hdd in there
[16:03] <nacc> Trangar: I also has no idea why your system is partitioned the way it is
[16:04] <Trangar> I guess I'll add 20GB more?
[16:04] <nacc> Trangar: why is your /var 10 G?
[16:04] <Trangar> Don't know
[16:05] <nacc> Trangar: if you're using LVM, you can do partition resizing safely. Otherwise, you need to do it from the recovery boot, I believe
[16:05] <Trangar> How can I tell?
[16:05] <nacc> Trangar: bug also, I cna't tell if your partitions are laid out in a way that is resizable
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Trangar, autoremove and autoclean can keep your / and /home dirs free of uneeded packages
[16:06] <Trangar> BluesKaj: yeah but the project i'm going to compile is like 20GB
[16:06] <brokencodes> Trangar: can you show the result of fdisk -l please
[16:06] <nacc> iirc, something like `sudo pvs; sudo lvs`
[16:07] <BluesKaj> too many partitions can be a curse as well as a convenience for an OS
[16:07] <Trangar> brokencodes: https://pastebin.com/u1Z7Suys
[16:11] <brokencodes> has 2 real partitions, but opted to use Extended to place logical partition inside of... and uses mapper / xfs for layout on single partition...
[16:13] <Trangar> I'll take your word for it
[16:13] <BluesKaj> oh well, I'm gone ...again
[16:15] <BluesKaj> lots of crosspoating going on these days between #ubuintu and ##liinux.. tiresome
[16:15] <BluesKaj> crossposting even
[16:21] <Trangar> brokencodes: so do you think there is a way I can increase my home dir?
[16:21] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I've created a ~/.Xdefault file and then ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefault but nothing changed - should I restart to see the effects?
[16:22] <brokencodes> I would love to help, but apparently all it does is piss off the regulars...
[16:24] <Trangar> ... what?
[16:27] <leftyfb> Trangar: no, you cannot increase your /home partition without rebooting. What you can do is (through trickery and some patience), copy the data from your home onto a new, larger partition and remount that over your /home
[16:30] <Trangar> leftyfb: can you send me a link to something that will help me get started?
[16:42] <xcom169> hello all
[16:42] <xcom169> if my /home/blabla/Video is 755
[16:42] <xcom169> but my /home/blabla is 700
[16:42] <xcom169> then  can I access only Videos from another account?
[16:43] <k12> Is this anything to worry about? Using Ubuntu Server: https://imgur.com/a/gMoiN
[16:45] <zuiss1> can anyone with an ubuntu system tell me if exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packages are available to install from the default repos without adding any PPAs?
[16:46] <baxx> how do
[16:47] <nacc> !info exfat-fuse | zuiss1
[16:47] <nacc> !info exfat-utils | zuiss1
[16:47] <nacc> zuiss1: or you could have searched on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:48] <EriC^^> xcom169: no, cause the /home/blabla isnt execute for everyone
[16:48] <xcom169> EriC^^: That's my problem. I need a directory which avaiable for me, and plex account also
[16:49] <baxx> i'm going to upgrade my ubuntu today. 16.04.3 seems to be the one to use - Ubuntu Mate is the lighter version, correct?
[16:49] <xcom169> EriC^^: I directory where I can stroe videos
[16:49] <EriC^^> xcom169: make a dir in /var/stuff
[16:49] <zuiss1> nacc: that information dump isn't sufficient info for someone who doesn't know anything about ubuntu to get an answer from. i don't know what component universe "is optional" or zesty means. does is optional means it is not installed by default, but available from the default repos, or optional as in available from PPAs?
[16:49] <xcom169> EriC^^: Under which user?
[16:49] <baxx> It's " proper ubuntu ", ? Or if I get that and ask a question in here is that going to get a response of " idk , we don't use Mate "
[16:50] <EriC^^> xcom169: your user, and make the dir 755 so everyone can access the videos
[16:50] <xcom169> EriC^^: thanky
[16:51] <EriC^^> xcom169: welcome
[16:54] <nacc> zuiss1: if you don't know "anything" about ubuntu, and yet know about PPAs and package names, I find that hard to believe. PPAs are not supported here, so we don't list packages in them. packages.ubuntu.com *also* does not earch PPAs, afaik.
[16:55] <nacc> !components | zuiss1
[16:55] <nacc> baxx: mate is an official flavor of ubuntu, supported in this channel
[16:55] <zuiss1> nacc: it shouldn't be hard to believe. debian is working on PPA support and has the same package names ubuntu does in many cases
[16:56] <baxx> nacc: ok cool - wasn't sure whether it was a fork... it's the lightest ubuntu ?
[16:56] <nacc> baxx: i have no idea if that's true or not. I'd assume both lxde and xfce are lighter
[16:56] <baxx> nacc: right but they're not ubuntu are they?
[16:57] <nacc> baxx: xubuntu and lubuntu are
[16:57] <Sicnus> I know what /etc/group is... but what is /etc/group-  ?  is it just a backup?
[16:57] <nacc> !flavors | baxx
[16:57] <baxx> ah ok cool, i'll look into those - thanks
[16:58] <BeansnRice> sometimes this computer, seemingly out of nowhere, goes to a black screen
[16:58] <BeansnRice> what gives?
[16:59] <zarzar> i'm in recovery menu, trying to repair brokwn packages, but all downloads fail, networking is enabled, can ping 8.8.8.8 successful
[16:59] <EriC^^> BeansnRice: when you move the mouse it comes back?
[17:00] <EriC^^> zarzar: can you ping google.com?
[17:00] <BeansnRice> EriC^^: no, the only key that behaves normally is the power button
[17:00] <strobot> Hi, can someone help me please? I have installed Ubuntu Studio and now I want to install the NEWEST version of Tuxguitar: Version 1.4. I have downloaded the .deb file and everytime I open it with the application called "Software" the Version changes to 1.2. Also after installing the version is 1.2
[17:00] <EriC^^> BeansnRice: anything in /var/log/syslog around the time of it happening?
[17:00] <zarzar> literally "ping google.com" no
[17:00] <strobot> There ist an installation guide on this page: http://tuxguitar.pw/tgwiki/doku.php?id=doc:install_ubuntu
[17:00] <EriC^^> strobot: try in the directory of the deb file, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[17:01] <zarzar> Eric^^: literally "ping google.com" no
[17:02] <zarzar> Eric^^: so DNS lookup doesn't work
[17:04] <BeansnRice> im getting one of these "(fwupd:1742): Fu-WARNING **: Failed to coldplug: UEFI firmware updating not supported"
[17:04] <BeansnRice> and two of these "[pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org     .bluez': timed out"
[17:05] <strobot> Thanks Eric^^ :)
[17:07] <Sicnus> I'm trying to migrate one of the users off of my laptop to my new desktop system...  Can I simply just grab their entries from /etc/group (make sure the Group ID is unique) and then copy the entry from /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd ?
[17:07] <EriC^^> strobot: no problem :)
[17:08] <EriC^^> Sicnus: yeah, you should be good doing that
[17:08] <Sicnus> k
[17:09] <EriC^^> Sicnus: of course make sure of the uid's in /etc/passwd
[17:20] <RonaldsMazitis> I just scanned whole hard drive with clamav
[17:20] <RonaldsMazitis> it found 6 viruses
[17:20] <RonaldsMazitis> did not report where they are
[17:20] <RonaldsMazitis> doesn't show up in quarantine
[17:21] <RonaldsMazitis> how do I see which files were infected
[17:21] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, you will need to tel clamav to make a report, and it does not clean https://askubuntu.com/questions/812336/how-can-i-make-a-detailed-report-of-clamav-scan-results-location-of-infected-fi
[17:22] <RonaldsMazitis> I accidentaly made another scan
[17:23] <RonaldsMazitis> will it make report about all scans?
[17:23] <oerheks> not if you don't  tell it to
[17:24] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV#Infected_files_reporting
[17:24] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo clamscan -v -r / | grep FOUND >> /home/username/viruses.txt
[17:24] <RonaldsMazitis> this should show all viruses from the scan I made on whole drive
[17:25] <oerheks> change that last bit in: /home/$USER/viruses.txt
[17:25] <RonaldsMazitis> if I just use my username it's ok right
[17:25] <oerheks> yes, suspicious files, it maybe not harmfull at all, false alarm
[17:27] <RonaldsMazitis> I had problem with crtl pushing itself
[17:28] <RonaldsMazitis> https://askubuntu.com/questions/742762/keys-malfunctioning
[17:28] <RonaldsMazitis> something like this
[17:30] <oerheks> sounds more like a technical issue to me, dirty keys
[17:30] <RonaldsMazitis> keys are ok
[17:31] <RonaldsMazitis> did change my keyboard few moths ago
[17:32] <EriC^^> RonaldsMazitis: logging "xev" might show if the key is being pressed or not
[17:32] <tomdickharry> is there an easy way to add a script to startup without having to add symbolic links etc. etc.
[17:33] <EriC^^> tomdickharry: easiest way is to put a crontab job as @reboot /path/to/script
[17:33] <leftyfb> tomdickharry: yes, either write a systemd unit or add the script to /etc/rc.local
[17:33] <oerheks> or add to 'startup applications'
[17:34] <leftyfb> eww
[17:34] <EriC^^> add to startup if you want it run only for your user
[17:34] <baxx> i want to update my system - what happens with file ownership from files that I transfer?
[17:35] <baxx> I was going to just wipe my current setup and install a new version from a usb stick
[17:35] <Sicnus> Any way to find out what packages are installed on a system without using dpkg?  I have a backup of a system I nuked and forgot to run dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list  before hand.
[17:35] <baxx> so I would copy my ~/ directory to an external drive, then copy it back afterwards, ? Won't there be some file conflicts or something?
[17:36] <leftyfb> Sicnus: not with any sort of reliability
[17:36] <RonaldsMazitis> how long it takes for this - > sudo clamscan -v -r / | grep FOUND >> /home/username/viruses.txt to work
[17:36] <leftyfb> Sicnus: just focus on installing the applications you know you need. If you had 20 applications you forgot about and never need them again, then....
[17:37] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: depends on what it's scanning
[17:37] <tomdickharry> is /etc/rc.local just going to run it a few times....ie. at the end of each run level on startup
[17:37] <leftyfb> tomdickharry: it's only run once
[17:37] <RonaldsMazitis> leftyfb I thought it will use my already done scan on whole drive
[17:37] <tomdickharry> leftyfb, thanks, in "startup applications" for now anyway - thanks
[17:39] <RonaldsMazitis> what was the reason to scan before if it did not had any log
[17:41] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, you tell us? if you would have used the manual, you could have known there will be no log
[17:43] <zylogz80> can anyone recommend an image editor that has HiDPI / 4k support for the interface? GIMP and PixelSheep are both to small to use on a 4k display. Or, even better, does a newer version of GIMP than what's in the 17.04 repos have HiDPI support?
[17:50] <johnfg> Hi folks.
[17:50] <johnfg> Just got this error at the end of running: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[17:50] <johnfg> W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 'linux_4.4.0-96.119.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[17:50] <johnfg> Any idea how to fix?
[17:50] <johnfg> And I'm running as root (sudo su -).
[17:51] <zarzar> i am running repair packages from recovery mode, it is frozen at OK Started Braille Device Support, what should I do/
[17:52] <leftyfb> johnfg: what's your pwd?
[17:52] <johnfg> leftyfb: /root
[17:52] <leftyfb> and does your user have access to write to /root?
[17:53] <johnfg> leftyfb: maybe, probably not.
[17:53] <leftyfb> johnfg: by default, the answer is no
[17:53] <johnfg> What's the better way that sudo su -?
[17:53] <johnfg> s/that/than
[17:53] <leftyfb> johnfg: why do you think you need to download the source into /root ?
[17:54] <leftyfb> why are you even in /root ?
[17:56] <johnfg> leftyfb: I'm not doing it on purpose.  I didn't have the kernel source installed, and wanted to install it.
[17:56] <leftyfb> johnfg: why are you in /root?
[17:56] <johnfg> All I did was sudo su -, then ran the command that I showed.
[17:57] <leftyfb> why do you need the kernel source?
[17:57] <johnfg> I guess sudo su - puts you in /root.
[17:57] <johnfg> leftyfb: to install openafs-modules-dkms
[17:58] <leftyfb> johnfg: sudo apt-get install openafs-modules-dkms
[18:02] <johnfg> leftyfb: That's where I get the error that the kernel source for my kernel isn't installed.
[18:03] <leftyfb> johnfg: paste the exact error you get to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:06] <johnfg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25687316/
[18:10] <tgm4883> johnfg: I'd think you probably just need to install linux-headers-generic
[18:12] <johnfg> tgm4883: I'll try that.
[18:15] <Cat_BPRM> I cant boot the installer from my usb or the try it version
[18:16] <zarzar> would removing all libxml* packages
[18:16] <zarzar> would removing all libxml* packages cause gnome ui to fail?
[18:17] <oerheks> zarzar, yes, most likely. i think it is time to reinstall
[18:17] <daptordarattler> zarzar, I STRONGLY advice you to refrain from making such package naming wide operations on ur packages
[18:17] <zarzar> i am, i was able to get it to boot without gnome, command line only
[18:17] <oerheks> good lesson not to remove things randomly
[18:18] <zarzar> yea i wasn't thinking, i was in hurry\
[18:18] <zarzar> it was dumb i know
[18:19] <oerheks> zarzar, so, if you can boot to text, why not reinstall the desktop ackage?
[18:19] <oerheks> c/package
[18:19] <zarzar> oerheks: didn;t know that was possible
[18:19] <zarzar> that might fix it
[18:20] <oerheks>  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:20] <zarzar> do you know of a guide to reinstall it?
[18:20] <zarzar> oerheks: cool beans, thanks, will try it after i copy off important files
[18:27] <_adb> using 16.04. `systemctl enable --now apache2` output begins "apache2.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install", and the --now flag isn't respected. two questions: 1) is there a reason this package isn't a "native service", and 2) is there a way to make the --now flag function as documented?
[18:28] <zarzar> oerheks: is there anything i should reinstall to make help make sure the system is cleaned up?
[18:28] <Cat_BPRM> When I try Boot Ubuntu installer from usb, it freezes; is this supposed to happen?
[18:30] <nacc> _adb: `apt-cache policy apache2` in a pastebin, please
[18:30] <Cat_BPRM> All I get is the Ubuntu logo and the 5 dots but they aren’t switching between orange and white
[18:32] <_adb> nacc: http://sprunge.us/DKeZ
[18:32] <nacc> _adb: and did you do something like `sudo apt install apache2` ?
[18:33] <_adb> yes. is that wrong?
[18:33] <nacc> _adb: no, i'm just trying to reproduce it
[18:33] <nacc> _adb: had you disabled apache2?
[18:33] <_adb> yes, i've tried enabling and disabling it a  few times. with and without the --now flag.
[18:34] <_adb> i can start over with a fresh install if that helps
[18:34] <nacc> _adb: I guess I'm trying to understand why?
[18:34] <nacc> _adb: it comes enabled
[18:34] <nacc> _adb: not sure why you are manually enabling it or disabling it, exactly
[18:34] <pavlos> Cat_BPRM: this may help ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/861743/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-from-a-usb-drive-freezes
[18:35] <_adb> because sometimes i want it running and enabled and other times i don't. as far as i remember, it always complained about not being a native service.
[18:37] <nacc> _adb: well, if you want to start or stop a service, and you aren't going to check if it's native or not, you should use start and stop respectively
[18:37] <nacc> _adb: it seems like --now only applies to native services
[18:37] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I don't have a .xsession file?
[18:38] <Anthaas> Im trying to create an .Xresources file to load
[18:38] <nacc> Anthaas: there is no ~/.xsession file by default (there might be a .xsession-errors)
[18:38] <Anthaas> nacc, There is.
[18:39] <nacc> Anthaas: there is, what?
[18:39] <Anthaas> I thought xsession was loaded when an xsession was created, and you use xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources to change the general layout of your xsession?
[18:39] <Anthaas> nacc, There is a .xsession-errors
[18:39] <_adb> nacc: systemctl stop apache2; reboot; ## apache2 will start up when the machine finishes booting, but i don't want it to. this is why it must be disabled. of course i can systemctl stop apache2 && systemctl disable apache2, but the --now flag exists so i don't have to do that. why isn't apache2 a "native service"? what does that mean? i get that obscure packages won't have systemd unit files yet, but apache?!
[18:40] <nacc> _adb: if your intentionn is to stop and disable a service, then you don't want &&, you want ;, I think semantically
[18:41] <nacc> _adb: becuase there is no systemd service file for it
[18:41] <johnfg> tgm4883: Thanks!  That worked!  I now have a working openafs-client, and can access my cell and volumes!
[18:41] <nacc> _adb: most packages don't have systemd files, tbh.
[18:41] <_adb> nacc: you're right. ; just in case the first one fails.
[18:42] <nacc> _adb: feel free to contribute in Debian, if you would like to write one. Or perhaps file a bug that systemctl --now could work properly for non-native cases (it might be an upstream systemd issue, I don't know)
[18:43] <_adb> well that's disappointing. thanks anyway.
[18:46] <Cat_BPRM> pavlos thanks, it worked :)
[18:46] <pavlos> Cat_BPRM: great!
[18:47] <nacc> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/c9905d4dd291c1525dc1a075651aade26498b204/src/systemctl/systemctl.c#L5917 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/systemctl/systemctl.c#L6388 seem relevant
[18:51] <nacc> _adb: basically, the --now should not be elided and /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install needs to learn to understand --now (possibly)
[19:00] <Capprentice> HI! Im using Ubuntu 16.04. I have installed KFTPGrabber which shows no Icons on its interface. Im pulling my hair off trying to fix it. I have installed oxygen and many other icon themes, gtk theme etc and used Unity Tweak Tool to change the themes, but still no progress.
[19:01] <Capprentice> What could be the issue?
[19:02] <Cat_BPRM> Sorry my client glitches out My question was if I install Ubuntu alongside windows boot manager, how do I choose which Os when I start my computer
[19:02] <greengameplayer> hmm...
[19:02] <greengameplayer> have you tried reinstalling it?
[19:03] <Capprentice> Cat_BPRM: You can install grub-customizer and customize the ordering.
[19:03] <Capprentice> yes.
[19:03] <Cat_BPRM> Can I just use my bios?
[19:03] <greengameplayer> OK, did you try grub-reconfigure
[19:03] <Capprentice> No.
[19:03] <oerheks> Cat_BPRM, hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu, to choose
[19:03] <oerheks> !grub
[19:04] <Bashing-om> Cat_BPRM: That depends on the system configration as to what options you have How many hard drives and what is installed where .,, AND the mainboard firmware - bios or EFI ?
[19:04] <greengameplayer> try doing sudo grub-reconfigure
[19:04] <Cat_BPRM> I have so many decision to make, do I want windows and Ubuntu or just ubuntu
[19:04] <greengameplayer> Lol, I just remembered I'm talking from Minecraft
[19:05] <Cat_BPRM> What’s better? Installing with windows or alone, as in which is safet
[19:05] <Bashing-om> Cat_BPRM: Do not go cold turkey off Windows :)
[19:05] <Cat_BPRM> Safest*
[19:05] <oerheks> format and use ubuntu
[19:05] <greengameplayer> Ubuntu by itself is the safest
[19:06] <Cat_BPRM> What are the risks
[19:06] <greengameplayer> You loose Windows
[19:06] <Cat_BPRM> Apart from everything deleted
[19:06] <Capprentice> Cat_BPRM: There were Wubi installer for testing,
[19:06] <greengameplayer> Oh. None.
[19:06] <Capprentice> You should use that.
[19:06] <oerheks> ugh .. wubi is dead
[19:06] <oerheks> !wubi
[19:06] <Cat_BPRM> I’m scared as this is the only computer I got and o don’t want it broken
[19:07] <greengameplayer> Ubuntu will NOT
[19:07] <greengameplayer> Under ANY circumstance
[19:07] <greengameplayer> ruin your computer
[19:07] <greengameplayer> .
[19:07] <Capprentice> Ah! I have not around for many days, I purchased a shitty laptop which runs i7 7th gen iCore, and it wont allow windows 7.
[19:07] <Toadisattva> if you plan on modern age gaming you may want to set it to dualboot windows and ubuntu (only kuz linx isn't quite there yet on the most modern gaming, if you aren't worried about gaming the newest games then trash the windoze and go full ubunutu
[19:08] <Cat_BPRM> Okay, I have and nvidia card, what can happen in the time that I don’t have the drivers?
[19:08] <Cat_BPRM> I’m good with tech I’m just VERY cautious
[19:08] <greengameplayer> There are Nvidia drivers
[19:08] <Cat_BPRM> I know but before I install them, what can happen
[19:08] <greengameplayer> nothing
[19:08] <Cat_BPRM> Okay
[19:08] <Toadisattva> ubuntu will autodetect your card and run it on open source drivers, you can install nvidia specific drivers (in most cases) but it's not usually necessary
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Cat_BPRM: We DO maintain nvidia drivers . That is not an issue .
[19:09] <greengameplayer> Ubuntu comes pre-installed with some drivers
[19:09] <greengameplayer> for any type of card
[19:09] <Cat_BPRM> Okay
[19:09] <Capprentice> kde connect is kool
[19:09] <Cat_BPRM> I think I’m almost ready to stop being a wimp and just do it
[19:09] <Capprentice> im typing via android
[19:09] <Capprentice> yes
[19:09] <Capprentice> do that
[19:09] <greengameplayer> And, if you want to use Windows programs you can use Wine
[19:09] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Cat_BPRM
[19:10] <Cat_BPRM> I’m not gonna dual boot
[19:10] <Capprentice> any one have any suggestion for my case?
[19:10] <Toadisattva> if you already have windows install setting up ubuntu alongside it incredibly easy
[19:10] <Toadisattva> click "install alongside windows" done
[19:10] <Toadisattva> :P
[19:10] <Cat_BPRM> I’m not gonna install it with windows, ima do it alone
[19:10] <Cat_BPRM> I’m just working myself up to do it...
[19:10] <Toadisattva> I am always in favor of killing windoze for the record
[19:11] <Toadisattva> if we don't use it will go away is my thinking
[19:11] <Toadisattva> then the game companies can just make them properly linux compatible to start with and everyone wins
[19:11]  * Toadisattva an optimist
[19:11] <Bashing-om> Cat_BPRM: A Windows install ?? Talk to the Windows people " and it wont allow windows 7" ???
[19:11] <blacknred0> i'm trying to transfer a file from macos to ubuntu, but i am getting an error on my mac that says "the device does not have the necessary services"
[19:12] <blacknred0> is there some bluetooth thing that i need to enable?
[19:12] <_adb> nacc: this debian bug (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798430 (opened 2015-09-09, closed 2016-09-29)) says it's fixed in apache2/2.4.23-5, but latest apache in ubutnu repos is 2.4.18. so i guess i should just wait on that. i haven't found any existing bugs in upstream systemd for --now flag yet, but haven't finished looking yet. if i can't find an existing bug, i'll create a new issue. is this the correct place for that https://github.com/sy
[19:12] <greengameplayer> Capprentice what's your problem>
[19:13] <Bashing-om> Capprentice: ^^ sorry Cat_BPRM  , Meant for other :(
[19:13] <Cat_BPRM> Okay, I click install, now I just need to hit continue
[19:13] <zarzar> oerheks: seems to be working now after desktop reinstall, thanks for the advice
[19:14] <greengameplayer> Capprentice you may have a major glitch or a software broken package
[19:14] <greengameplayer> try to do alt f4
[19:14] <Capprentice> gow do i fix that
[19:14] <greengameplayer> you should get a terminal
[19:15] <greengameplayer> then do sudo apt-get -f
[19:15] <nacc> _adb: to be clear, that version won't appear in 16.04 ever. You could ask ubuntu to add the service file to the version in 16.04 via !bug
[19:15] <nacc> _adb: i think so (re: github)
[19:17] <_adb> nacc: oh :-(  why not? LTS doesn't get minor version updates, just security patches?
[19:17] <nacc> !stable | _adb
[19:17] <nacc> hrm, not that :)
[19:17] <nacc> !latest | _adb
[19:17] <nacc> _adb: and yeah, released versions almost nenver update
[19:17] <nacc> _adb: apache minor version aren't actual minor versions in the sensible ways
[19:17] <nacc> _adb: they are not backwards compatible, necessarily
[19:17] <nacc> _adb: and add new functionality :/
[19:17] <_adb> i see. thank you for clarifying.
[19:18] <Capprentice> greengameplayer: Done that. Nothing is broken or held
[19:18] <nacc> _adb:  you could test with 17.04 or 17.10, which should be recent enough
[19:18] <_adb> nacc: they only allow LTS in this environment
[19:18] <greengameplayer> Okay, do sudo apt-get update
[19:18] <Capprentice> Nothing left to upgrade
[19:18] <Capprentice> no new updates
[19:19] <greengameplayer> Hmm...
[19:19] <greengameplayer> Try doing alt  f1
[19:20] <greengameplayer> Can you alt least log in
[19:20] <_adb> in the shortterm, just doing the two commands (enable and start) separately will be good enough. hopefully systemd support will be more complete in the future versions. thank you for your help.
[19:20] <Capprentice> greengameplayer: Im logged in
[19:20] <nacc> _adb: yw
[19:20] <Capprentice> Its the app icons which does not work
[19:21] <greengameplayer> okay, so there's NO icons anywhere?
[19:23] <Capprentice> greengameplayer: https://i.imgur.com/zSwN2io.png..
[19:24] <Capprentice> This is how all of my KDE apps looks here on Unuty Desktop - https://i.imgur.com/zSwN2io.png
[19:25] <Capprentice> no icons on the tool bar
[19:27] <Capprentice> Where are all the Ubuntu Widards.
[19:27] <Capprentice> Where else should I ask this?
[19:27] <greengameplayer> Wait
[19:28] <greengameplayer> do sudo apt-get install -r KFTPgrabber
[19:28] <greengameplayer> then sudo apt-get install KFTPgrabber
[19:28] <greengameplayer> that should reinstall it
[19:31] <Capprentice> Yes! Tried that. Thats the second thing I did.
[19:31] <Capprentice> still the issue same
[19:31] <greengameplayer> ok, i'll point you to the KDE channel'
[19:31] <Capprentice> #kde?
[19:33] <greengameplayer> yes that's it
[19:33] <greengameplayer> go ahead and head over to #kde
[19:34] <greengameplayer> they should be able to help you
[19:38] <Anthaas> Is there an .xsession file or .initrc file at all on ubuntu?
[19:38] <Anthaas> I want to get xmonad to launch
[19:41] <akik> Anthaas: .xsessionrc
[19:41] <Anthaas> akik, I dont even have that.
[19:42] <Anthaas> I have .xsession-errors, thats it.
[19:42] <akik> Anthaas: create it. i have no idea why it's changed names
[19:42] <Anthaas> Thanks
[19:48] <akik> Anthaas: could you tell me if it worked?
[19:52] <Anthaas> akik, Will do
[19:52] <ecdhe> On xenial, I have gnome-terminal set to the perfect transparency.  I have a large number of other desktops I'd like to configure to have the same settings, but I can't figure out where gnome-terminal stores its settings.  Any idea how to programmatically configure gnome-terminal preferences?
[19:53] <Anthaas> ecdhe, .Xresources
[19:53] <akik> Anthaas: can you select xmonad in the login screen?
[19:53] <Anthaas> then xrdb -merge .Xresources
[19:54] <Anthaas> akik, I am set to auto-log in atm
[19:54] <Anthaas> akik, Also, what is an ".xpm" file - its used for xmonad's background
[19:54] <Anthaas> Can it be replaced for any image?
[19:54] <akik> Anthaas: it's a bitmap file
[19:55] <Anthaas> akik, Is there a way to convert, say, a .jpg to .xpm?
[19:55] <akik> Anthaas: try convert from imagemagick
[20:01] <greengameplayer_> lol
[20:01] <greengameplayer_> im doing irc on irc
[20:02] <greengameplayer> and minecraft
[20:03] <greengameplayer_> Anyway, i gtg
[20:03] <greengameplayer> bye
[20:04] <Anthaas> akik, So, I've created my xsessionrc, which does xrdb -merge .Xresouces, xpmroot [background image.xpm], /usr/bin/xmonad - should be enough, right?
[20:04] <Anthaas> So....should I just restart now?
[20:05] <akik> Anthaas: i really don't know. which desktop environment were you using until now?
[20:05] <Anthaas> ubuntu 16.04 - pretty much a fresh install
[20:07] <Anthaas> akik ^
[20:07] <akik> Anthaas: try it
[20:11] <Anthaas> akik, Yeah - its loaded to xmonad.
[20:14] <KombuchaKip> Can anyone help me with a boot problem? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2373496&p=13695024#post13695024
[20:27] <truelai> Hey everyone. I have a network interface situation. I can't ping my second bridge, even from the host. what am I getting wrong? http://pasted.co/78c9ed47
[20:28] <nacc> !crosspost | truelai
[20:28] <truelai> gotcha. thanks
[21:04] <KombuchaKip> Can anyone help me with a RAID1 issue? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2373496&p=13695024#post13695024
[21:12] <kenrin> Do you see the md if you use a livecd ?  It may just not have the required packages to view it
[21:12] <snkcld> how can i disable the HSP/HFP  profile for my bluetooth headphones? for some reason, anytime i use my bluetooth headphones, i have to connect, disconnect, then connect again to get it to switch to A2DP
[21:12] <kenrin> By livecd,  I mean booting into it and installing mdadm.  Not just trying to view it without the right packages
[21:26] <desez2tpunk> Anyone on that is able to help me with a networking issue? I'm unsure if it's possibly Ubuntu related or my laptop :/
[21:26] <saml> how do I rename a package in a way that it cleanly replaces existing package of different name?
[21:29] <nacc> saml: you keep coming in here and asking the same question
[21:29] <nacc> saml: I believe you know the answer. build it properly.
[21:29] <strive> desez2tpunk: Just ask the question.
[21:31] <desez2tpunk> Well, running on Windows 10 I had no packet losses and such. However I have wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu 17.04, when I ping a website such as google, I get ping times of 35, then random packets of 100-800, and sometimes packet loss completely.
[21:31] <saml> nacc, that's what i'm trying to do.
[21:31] <saml> i do have to keep package name different. but my package should cleanly replace existing one
[21:32] <desez2tpunk> Running on a wireless card. Not through ethernet, however a windows laptop I have next to me is not losing packets or having high ping times.
[21:32] <saml> https://wiki.debian.org/RenamingPackages    there's Clean slate method. That seems like what I need. but even with Provides, Replaces, Conflicts,   it does not cleanly remove old package if another package depends on the old package.
[21:33] <nacc> saml: ok, then don't ask the other question. Ask the actual question, and you probaby want either #ubuntu-packaging or #debian-packaging. Definitely not an Ubuntu support topic.
[21:33] <saml> ah thanks
[21:37] <adamitsch> Why selective print screen doesnt work on 17.10
[21:38] <desez2tpunk> No one at all willing to help with the wireless network issue? :/
[21:43] <nacc> !ubuntu+1 | adamitsch
[22:00] <ycyclist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25688462/
[22:01] <nacc> ycyclist: that's a rather unhelpful way to ask a question.
[22:01] <nacc> ycyclist: but the answer is that /bin/sh is not the rigth thing to use if you're relying on bash functionality
[22:01] <nacc> ycyclist: use /bin/bash
[22:01] <ycyclist> The question is, why is the Bourne shell not the same on Ubuntu?  What is the difference?
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: it is, you're not listening.
[22:02] <nacc> ycyclist: /bin/sh is not by definition bash.
[22:02] <ycyclist> We are trying to NOT use Bash.  We are trying to use Bourne shell, or its equivalent.
[22:03] <ycyclist> We want to specify POSIX minimal Bourne Shell, like dash, presumably.
[22:03] <nacc> ycyclist: then you should learn syntax. there is no 'let' in dash.
[22:04] <ycyclist> At any rate, doing so works on CentOS 7, and SuSE.  As I know you have a flavor of Bourne shell on Ubuntu, since at requires it and I use at there all the time, I wonder why it differs.
[22:04] <ycyclist> Ok.  So that means the Bourne shell on the other two is something more.  That makes sense.
[22:04] <ycyclist> Thanks guys.
[22:08] <mcphail> ycyclist: lots of distros symlink /bin/sh to bash (the bourne again shell) which has added features and syntax. Ubuntu has /bin/sh linked to dash (a minimal shell) by default. If your shebang is "#! /bin/sh" you should only ever rely on the minimal shell syntax
[23:30] <baxx> what doesn't Lubuntu include that Ubuntu does?
[23:38] <adrian_1908> baxx: The difference of derived distros is mostly the selection of pre-installed programs. So you might have a different control panel, file manager, email program, text editor etc.
[23:39] <baxx> adrian_1908: ok - that's it though? I mean, i can just install a different PDF reader if i like... But I wasn't sure if there were *loads* of libraries not included and stuff like that
[23:39] <baxx> which would cause me to bump into lots of missing things and what not.
[23:40] <adrian_1908> baxx: Most of the skeleton is identical, so you have access to all the same libraries, drivers, programs, i.e. you still get all the good stuff of the Ubuntu ecosystem.
[23:41] <baxx> adrian_1908: ok - and PPAs, mp3 codecs etc are the same
[23:41] <baxx> that's all good then i think
[23:42] <adrian_1908> yes, that's all there like before. In fact, one could probably recreate something similar to Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc. from a vanilla Ubuntu install. It's just less convenient than a streamlined sister-distro.
[23:43] <baxx> adrian_1908: all good, i don't really mind about it not looking as pretty, and have a pretty definite use for my computer that lubuntu will be fine for ( just checking there wasn't anything hidden that i was missing )
[23:56] <urgodfather> hello room, does anyone know off hand if mythtv is still supported?
[23:58] <nacc> !info mythtv
[23:58] <nacc> urgodfather: --^
[23:59] <urgodfather> ty nacc
[23:59] <nacc> there is also mythbuntu 16.04
[23:59] <urgodfather> i thought mythbuntu was discontinued
[23:59] <birkoff> is zesty considered stable/unstable?